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Old November 14th 15, 09:44 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel47
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Default Re-allocing Disk space

When I install a new version of Linux, as part of the installation
process, I can move stuff around on the HD to leave me with a good sized
chunk of space into which I can install the new Linux.

However, I believe Windows 7 has the ability to re-size HD partitions
inbuilt. One of my niece's has a laptop with a 400GB HD which someone
(possibly me, but I don't remember!) has separated into a 115GB C:\
(called OS) and a 370GB D:\ (called Data), and, of course, the C:\ is
now almost full (104GB used) and the D:\ is almost empty (about 250MB
(yes, MB) used).

Could someone please tell me where I might find the re-sizing capability
or further instructions to do it, so I can give her access to more of
her HD??

End Game might be to copy the 250MB data from D:\ to C:\ and remove D:\
totally, so C:\ can have all the HD. Is this possible .... and simple??

TIA

Daniel
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Old November 14th 15, 10:29 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Re-allocing Disk space

Daniel47 wrote:
When I install a new version of Linux, as part of the installation
process, I can move stuff around on the HD to leave me with a good sized
chunk of space into which I can install the new Linux.

However, I believe Windows 7 has the ability to re-size HD partitions
inbuilt. One of my niece's has a laptop with a 400GB HD which someone
(possibly me, but I don't remember!) has separated into a 115GB C:\
(called OS) and a 370GB D:\ (called Data), and, of course, the C:\ is
now almost full (104GB used) and the D:\ is almost empty (about 250MB
(yes, MB) used).

Could someone please tell me where I might find the re-sizing capability
or further instructions to do it, so I can give her access to more of
her HD??

End Game might be to copy the 250MB data from D:\ to C:\ and remove D:\
totally, so C:\ can have all the HD. Is this possible .... and simple??

TIA

Daniel


The features are in Disk Management. The program name is "diskmgmt.msc".

Shrink can only shrink a partition by half. This has
to do with some metadata in an NTFS partition, that
Windows doesn't want to move. The typical result, is
you can only shrink by half. With some work, you
can improve on that, but with Diskmgmt.msc alone,
that is about the best shrink you can do.

Expand should not have a limitation on how far
it can expand.

Example here. And you can see from the interface, it
is a "shrink to the left" tool. And sometimes you need
to "shrink to the right".

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...me-shrink.html

Your idea of moving the data off D: and deleting it, has some merit.

I've had good luck with "helping" an operation like this. Using
"JKdefrag", a free command line program, it's possible to move
the data in the partition. Depending on whether you're shrinking
left or right, you may be able to move the data in advance. I had
one utility, that was dog-slow, but it did know how to shrink. By
moving all the data in advance, the utility would complete the
final steps of the operation in the blink of an eye. If a utility
for doing this kind of work doesn't provide good visual feedback
as to progress, you can always split the operation into two pieces.
And perhaps use JKdefrag to do the first part of it.

The partition might start like this. The "X" is a file.

+---------------------------+
| X XXX X |
+---------------------------+

This is from the JKDefrag help file.

For example: JkDefrag.exe -a 7 -d 2 -q c: d:

-a N The action to perform. N is a number from 1 to 11, default is 3:
1 = Analyze, do not defragment and do not optimize.
2 = Defragment only, do not optimize.
3 = Defragment and fast optimize [recommended].
5 = Force together. --- to the left
6 = Move to end of disk. --- to the right
7 = Optimize by sorting all files by name (folder + filename).
...

If I moved all the files to the right using "6"...

+---------------------------+
| XXXXX|
+---------------------------+

Then doing a shrink happens quickly.
This assumes the tool I'm using does shrink
to the right (which the Windows one doesn't appear to do).
I inserted the letter "M" to show some metadata
blocking further shrinkage.

+-----------+---------------+
|Unallocated|M XXXXX|
+-----------+---------------+

So that's an example of shrinkage, which you
don't really need. A proper partition manager,
can handle shrink to the left or shrink to the right
with no problem at all. When any disk maintenance tools
have a problem working on C:, they will ask for a reboot,
and fix the situation while Windows is not running.

*******

Moving the data off D: , deleting D:, and expanding C: ,
should complete in no time at all. And can be done
with Disk Management.

Paul
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Old November 14th 15, 11:45 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel47
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Default Re-allocing Disk space

On 14/11/2015 9:29 PM, Paul wrote:
Daniel47 wrote:
When I install a new version of Linux, as part of the installation
process, I can move stuff around on the HD to leave me with a good
sized chunk of space into which I can install the new Linux.

However, I believe Windows 7 has the ability to re-size HD partitions
inbuilt. One of my niece's has a laptop with a 400GB HD which someone
(possibly me, but I don't remember!) has separated into a 115GB C:\
(called OS) and a 370GB D:\ (called Data), and, of course, the C:\ is
now almost full (104GB used) and the D:\ is almost empty (about 250MB
(yes, MB) used).

Could someone please tell me where I might find the re-sizing
capability or further instructions to do it, so I can give her access
to more of her HD??

End Game might be to copy the 250MB data from D:\ to C:\ and remove
D:\ totally, so C:\ can have all the HD. Is this possible .... and
simple??

TIA

Daniel


The features are in Disk Management. The program name is "diskmgmt.msc".

Shrink can only shrink a partition by half. This has
to do with some metadata in an NTFS partition, that
Windows doesn't want to move. The typical result, is
you can only shrink by half. With some work, you
can improve on that, but with Diskmgmt.msc alone,
that is about the best shrink you can do.

Expand should not have a limitation on how far
it can expand.

Example here. And you can see from the interface, it
is a "shrink to the left" tool. And sometimes you need
to "shrink to the right".

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...me-shrink.html

Your idea of moving the data off D: and deleting it, has some merit.

I've had good luck with "helping" an operation like this. Using
"JKdefrag", a free command line program, it's possible to move
the data in the partition. Depending on whether you're shrinking
left or right, you may be able to move the data in advance. I had
one utility, that was dog-slow, but it did know how to shrink. By
moving all the data in advance, the utility would complete the
final steps of the operation in the blink of an eye. If a utility
for doing this kind of work doesn't provide good visual feedback
as to progress, you can always split the operation into two pieces.
And perhaps use JKdefrag to do the first part of it.

The partition might start like this. The "X" is a file.

+---------------------------+
| X XXX X |
+---------------------------+

This is from the JKDefrag help file.

For example: JkDefrag.exe -a 7 -d 2 -q c: d:

-a N The action to perform. N is a number from 1 to 11, default is 3:
1 = Analyze, do not defragment and do not optimize.
2 = Defragment only, do not optimize.
3 = Defragment and fast optimize [recommended].
5 = Force together. --- to the left
6 = Move to end of disk. --- to the right
7 = Optimize by sorting all files by name (folder + filename).
...

If I moved all the files to the right using "6"...

+---------------------------+
| XXXXX|
+---------------------------+

Then doing a shrink happens quickly.
This assumes the tool I'm using does shrink
to the right (which the Windows one doesn't appear to do).
I inserted the letter "M" to show some metadata
blocking further shrinkage.

+-----------+---------------+
|Unallocated|M XXXXX|
+-----------+---------------+

So that's an example of shrinkage, which you
don't really need. A proper partition manager,
can handle shrink to the left or shrink to the right
with no problem at all. When any disk maintenance tools
have a problem working on C:, they will ask for a reboot,
and fix the situation while Windows is not running.

*******

Moving the data off D: , deleting D:, and expanding C: ,
should complete in no time at all. And can be done
with Disk Management.

Paul


Thanks for all this, Paul.

I've got all week to digest what you've typed above, and, if all else
fails, I can use the tools on one of my Linux installation DVD's to sort
things out.

And, of course, before I do anything ..... back-up!!

Daniel

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Old November 14th 15, 11:49 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Re-allocing Disk space

In message , Daniel47
writes:
When I install a new version of Linux, as part of the installation
process, I can move stuff around on the HD to leave me with a good
sized chunk of space into which I can install the new Linux.

However, I believe Windows 7 has the ability to re-size HD partitions


To a limited extent (though better than XP's). In particular, it's not
good at _shrinking_ partitions, at least not ones with the OS on. (You
can sometimes succeed by repeated goes at it.)

[There are free partition managers out there - I found the Easeus one
did what I wanted (and in a manner I found easy enough to use and
understand), so didn't look further, so can't say it's better or worse
than any others.]

inbuilt. One of my niece's has a laptop with a 400GB HD which someone
(possibly me, but I don't remember!) has separated into a 115GB C:\
(called OS) and a 370GB D:\ (called Data), and, of course, the C:\ is


Sounds a sensible arrangement.

now almost full (104GB used) and the D:\ is almost empty (about 250MB
(yes, MB) used).

Could someone please tell me where I might find the re-sizing
capability or further instructions to do it, so I can give her access
to more of her HD??


Click start, and type partition into the box just above it; before
you've finished typing it (I think at "partit" or even "parti"), 7 will
be showing you the relevant facility. (I think it's called something
like Disk Management; I'm not on my 7 machine ATM so can't check).

End Game might be to copy the 250MB data from D:\ to C:\ and remove D:\
totally, so C:\ can have all the HD. Is this possible .... and simple??


Yes, even in the in-built tool; you'd do the copy (or rather move) [not
with the tool - just ordinary Explorer], then delete D:, then grow C: to
take up the unused space.

TIA

Daniel


This approach, though, depresses me. How computer-savvy is your niece?
What has obviously happened is that, although someone partitioned the
disc nicely into OS and data (actually I'd say OS-and-software and data
are better choices, but that's probably what was meant), all data has
also been going onto C:. Unfortunately, many - I'd say most - Windows
softwares still default to saving on C:, as do many users; quite a lot
of the softwares can be beaten into using D:, and it's also worth using
the relocate facility for the various system folders such as Documents.

If you can also at least get your niece to at least grasp the simple
concept of "never save anything to C:" (my apologies if she's more savvy
than that), that would help. (It's unfortunate that the default "save"
dialog doesn't show the full path, so people think "I'm saving in xyz",
not "I'm saving in C:\....\xyz".) OK, "never save on C:" might result in
her actually installing some software on D: too (the difference between
installing and saving being too subtle for some), but with any luck she
won't be installing much, if her knowledge is of that level.

What I _wouldn't_ do is just resize C: to be bigger and D: smaller;
either admit defeat [in niece training (-:] and just make it all C:, or
do the training, move some of the identifiable _data_ from C: to D:, and
possibly even _reduce_ C:.

Or just do the move bit: move the data from C: to D: (including telling
the OS that Documents, Pictures, etc. are on D; that alone _might_ be
enough for niece to start using D: for data.
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Old November 14th 15, 12:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mike Tomlinson
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Default Re-allocing Disk space

En el artículo , Daniel47 Daniel47@eternal-
september.org escribió:

End Game might be to copy the 250MB data from D:\ to C:\ and remove D:\
totally, so C:\ can have all the HD. Is this possible .... and simple??


Dead simple.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/

Free. Reliable (it does lots and lots of checking before actually doing
anything, then more checking while it is working) and very easy to use.
I've used it extensively and love it.

Do what you suggest above and copy the 250MB data from D: to C: first,
then use GParted to delete the D: partition and extend C: to fill the
disk.

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Old November 14th 15, 01:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:


To a limited extent (though better than XP's). In particular, it's not
good at _shrinking_ partitions, at least not ones with the OS on.


I just tested the Disk Management shrink of C: with the
OS running, and it did it. No reboot or anything. That
was on the Win7 VM I have set up.

Paul
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Old November 14th 15, 03:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Big Al[_5_]
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Default Re-allocing Disk space

Daniel47 wrote on 11/14/2015 4:44 AM:
When I install a new version of Linux, as part of the installation process, I can move stuff around on the HD to leave
me with a good sized chunk of space into which I can install the new Linux.

However, I believe Windows 7 has the ability to re-size HD partitions inbuilt. One of my niece's has a laptop with a
400GB HD which someone (possibly me, but I don't remember!) has separated into a 115GB C:\ (called OS) and a 370GB D:\
(called Data), and, of course, the C:\ is now almost full (104GB used) and the D:\ is almost empty (about 250MB (yes,
MB) used).

Could someone please tell me where I might find the re-sizing capability or further instructions to do it, so I can give
her access to more of her HD??

End Game might be to copy the 250MB data from D:\ to C:\ and remove D:\ totally, so C:\ can have all the HD. Is this
possible .... and simple??

TIA

Daniel


I find http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html Partition Wizard 9 Free a great too. You can do multiple actions,
even though I suggest one at a time.
It will resize, move, expand etc. I've rearranged many an OS and Data partitions etc to make room for a 3rd Linux
Partition.

And did I say it was free.
Nice GUI too.
  #8  
Old November 15th 15, 01:13 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Re-allocing Disk space

In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

To a limited extent (though better than XP's). In particular, it's
not good at _shrinking_ partitions, at least not ones with the OS on.


I just tested the Disk Management shrink of C: with the
OS running, and it did it. No reboot or anything. That
was on the Win7 VM I have set up.

Paul


I think - as others have said - it is often not happy shrinking to below
about half current size. I think in fact it doesn't like moving some of
the system files (such as the page file), which the OS has a tendency to
place near half way through the partition, hence the half size limit.
Rebooting after shrinking _can_ sometimes persuade the OS to move the
files in question (perhaps to half way up the shrunk partition?), so
allowing a new shrink.
--
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Old November 15th 15, 03:10 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

To a limited extent (though better than XP's). In particular, it's
not good at _shrinking_ partitions, at least not ones with the OS on.


I just tested the Disk Management shrink of C: with the
OS running, and it did it. No reboot or anything. That
was on the Win7 VM I have set up.

Paul


I think - as others have said - it is often not happy shrinking to below
about half current size. I think in fact it doesn't like moving some of
the system files (such as the page file), which the OS has a tendency to
place near half way through the partition, hence the half size limit.
Rebooting after shrinking _can_ sometimes persuade the OS to move the
files in question (perhaps to half way up the shrunk partition?), so
allowing a new shrink.


When there is something in the way, it won't shrink below that.

The pagefile doesn't typically sit half way out. You can use
NFI to find out where your pagefile is today.

Some metadata on disks, have a "preferred" location. The location
may be picked for head movement efficiency reasons.

For example, on a particular non-Windows file system,
information sits at 33% out and 66% out. And the
justification has to do with head movement when updating
those structures.

*All* the information on the partition can be moved. I
expect even Microsoft could write a routine to do it. But
adherence to certain design principles (actually wrongly
applied in this case), result in the "performance" you see.

If Microsoft followed their own rules, you would be
able to shrink to 1/2 on the first application. 1/4 on
the second application. 1/8 on the third application. And
so on. But they did not put the extra effort into
doing that.

The "shrink to 1/2" applies even to data partitions, so it's
not the pagefile that is in the way.

If you do the following sequence.

Disk Management - shrink to 1/2
Raxco PerfectDisk - defragment partition (moves blocking iten to 50% point)
Disk Management - shrink to 1/4
Raxco PerfectDisk - defragment partition (moves blocking iten to 50% point)
Disk Management - shrink to 1/8

So Raxco follows the rules, by moving that particular item to the
50% point of the remaining partition. When invoked, Raxco finds
the blocking item all the way to the right, and moves it to the
center. And that's why that particular (silly) method is iterative.
I only did that, because I found a thread somewhere which
noted the possibility and I wanted to try it out. I have
a proper Partition Manager now, so won't be doing that any
more :-) I used the trial version of PerfectDisk at the
time, to try it out.

Paul
  #10  
Old November 15th 15, 09:21 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Re-allocing Disk space

In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[]
I think - as others have said - it is often not happy shrinking to
below about half current size. I think in fact it doesn't like moving
some of the system files (such as the page file), which the OS has a
tendency to place near half way through the partition, hence the half
size limit. Rebooting after shrinking _can_ sometimes persuade the OS
to move the files in question (perhaps to half way up the shrunk
partition?), so allowing a new shrink.


When there is something in the way, it won't shrink below that.

The pagefile doesn't typically sit half way out. You can use


OK, not the pagefile. I can't remember what it is that the OS tends to
put half way. Maybe it's _any_ file that stops Disk Management shrinking

NFI to find out where your pagefile is today.


[I could if I knew what it was (-:]

Some metadata on disks, have a "preferred" location. The location
may be picked for head movement efficiency reasons.

For example, on a particular non-Windows file system,
information sits at 33% out and 66% out. And the
justification has to do with head movement when updating
those structures.


(That's why I thought they might be half way up the partition.)

*All* the information on the partition can be moved. I
expect even Microsoft could write a routine to do it. But
adherence to certain design principles (actually wrongly
applied in this case), result in the "performance" you see.

If Microsoft followed their own rules, you would be
able to shrink to 1/2 on the first application. 1/4 on
the second application. 1/8 on the third application. And
so on. But they did not put the extra effort into
doing that.

The "shrink to 1/2" applies even to data partitions, so it's
not the pagefile that is in the way.


Ah, interesting.

If you do the following sequence.

Disk Management - shrink to 1/2
Raxco PerfectDisk - defragment partition (moves blocking iten to 50% point)
Disk Management - shrink to 1/4
Raxco PerfectDisk - defragment partition (moves blocking iten to 50% point)
Disk Management - shrink to 1/8

So Raxco follows the rules, by moving that particular item to the
50% point of the remaining partition. When invoked, Raxco finds
the blocking item all the way to the right, and moves it to the
center. And that's why that particular (silly) method is iterative.
I only did that, because I found a thread somewhere which
noted the possibility and I wanted to try it out. I have


I don't know PerfectDisk; from the name, I'd have hoped it had/has an
option to put things at the "start" of a partition (fastest?) rather
than middle (minimise head movement).

a proper Partition Manager now, so won't be doing that any


Me too - the Easeus one. I don't know if it's the best - it was the
first one I tried that both did what I wanted and did it in an
easy-to-follow manner, so I didn't look any further. (I think it might
even have been the first one I tried.)

more :-) I used the trial version of PerfectDisk at the
time, to try it out.

Paul

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Old November 15th 15, 10:45 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel47
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Default Re-allocing Disk space

On 14/11/2015 10:49 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Daniel47
writes:
When I install a new version of Linux, as part of the installation
process, I can move stuff around on the HD to leave me with a good
sized chunk of space into which I can install the new Linux.

However, I believe Windows 7 has the ability to re-size HD partitions


To a limited extent (though better than XP's). In particular, it's not
good at _shrinking_ partitions, at least not ones with the OS on. (You
can sometimes succeed by repeated goes at it.)

[There are free partition managers out there - I found the Easeus one
did what I wanted (and in a manner I found easy enough to use and
understand), so didn't look further, so can't say it's better or worse
than any others.]

inbuilt. One of my niece's has a laptop with a 400GB HD which someone
(possibly me, but I don't remember!) has separated into a 115GB C:\
(called OS) and a 370GB D:\ (called Data), and, of course, the C:\ is


Sounds a sensible arrangement.

now almost full (104GB used) and the D:\ is almost empty (about 250MB
(yes, MB) used).

Could someone please tell me where I might find the re-sizing
capability or further instructions to do it, so I can give her access
to more of her HD??


Click start, and type partition into the box just above it; before
you've finished typing it (I think at "partit" or even "parti"), 7 will
be showing you the relevant facility. (I think it's called something
like Disk Management; I'm not on my 7 machine ATM so can't check).

End Game might be to copy the 250MB data from D:\ to C:\ and remove
D:\ totally, so C:\ can have all the HD. Is this possible .... and
simple??


Yes, even in the in-built tool; you'd do the copy (or rather move) [not
with the tool - just ordinary Explorer], then delete D:, then grow C: to
take up the unused space.

TIA

Daniel


This approach, though, depresses me. How computer-savvy is your niece?
What has obviously happened is that, although someone partitioned the
disc nicely into OS and data (actually I'd say OS-and-software and data
are better choices, but that's probably what was meant), all data has
also been going onto C:. Unfortunately, many - I'd say most - Windows
softwares still default to saving on C:, as do many users; quite a lot
of the softwares can be beaten into using D:, and it's also worth using
the relocate facility for the various system folders such as Documents.

If you can also at least get your niece to at least grasp the simple
concept of "never save anything to C:" (my apologies if she's more savvy
than that), that would help.


Many years ago, I set my sister's (the nieces mother's) computer up with
C:\ for OS, D:\ for executables and E:\ for Data/Music/etc. That lasted
about five minutes, so any wonder my niece (Year 10) uses her Laptop the
way she does!!

Much prefer the way Linux does it!

(It's unfortunate that the default "save"
dialog doesn't show the full path, so people think "I'm saving in xyz",
not "I'm saving in C:\....\xyz".) OK, "never save on C:" might result in
her actually installing some software on D: too (the difference between
installing and saving being too subtle for some), but with any luck she
won't be installing much, if her knowledge is of that level.

What I _wouldn't_ do is just resize C: to be bigger and D: smaller;
either admit defeat [in niece training (-:] and just make it all C:, or
do the training, move some of the identifiable _data_ from C: to D:, and
possibly even _reduce_ C:.

Or just do the move bit: move the data from C: to D: (including telling
the OS that Documents, Pictures, etc. are on D; that alone _might_ be
enough for niece to start using D: for data.


Can I set the Win7 OS up so that it thinks "My Documents", "My Music",
etc, are on the D:\, so when my niece saves a document, it will
automatically go to D:\??

Daniel


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Old November 15th 15, 10:59 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel47
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On 15/11/2015 2:21 AM, Big Al wrote:
Daniel47 wrote on 11/14/2015 4:44 AM:
When I install a new version of Linux, as part of the installation
process, I can move stuff around on the HD to leave
me with a good sized chunk of space into which I can install the new
Linux.

However, I believe Windows 7 has the ability to re-size HD partitions
inbuilt. One of my niece's has a laptop with a
400GB HD which someone (possibly me, but I don't remember!) has
separated into a 115GB C:\ (called OS) and a 370GB D:\
(called Data), and, of course, the C:\ is now almost full (104GB used)
and the D:\ is almost empty (about 250MB (yes,
MB) used).

Could someone please tell me where I might find the re-sizing
capability or further instructions to do it, so I can give
her access to more of her HD??

End Game might be to copy the 250MB data from D:\ to C:\ and remove
D:\ totally, so C:\ can have all the HD. Is this
possible .... and simple??

TIA

Daniel


I find http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html Partition Wizard 9
Free a great too. You can do multiple actions, even though I suggest
one at a time.
It will resize, move, expand etc. I've rearranged many an OS and Data
partitions etc to make room for a 3rd Linux Partition.

And did I say it was free.
Nice GUI too.


Thanks for the recommendation, Big Al.

Daniel

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Old November 15th 15, 11:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 14/11/2015 11:51 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Daniel47 Daniel47@eternal-
september.org escribió:

End Game might be to copy the 250MB data from D:\ to C:\ and remove D:\
totally, so C:\ can have all the HD. Is this possible .... and simple??


Dead simple.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/

Free. Reliable (it does lots and lots of checking before actually doing
anything, then more checking while it is working) and very easy to use.
I've used it extensively and love it.

Do what you suggest above and copy the 250MB data from D: to C: first,
then use GParted to delete the D: partition and extend C: to fill the
disk.

Mike, I've used GParted to do thinks with-in various Linux
installations, so have it if needed. I was hoping to do it natively
with-in Win7, just to see if it was possible!!

Daniel

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Old November 15th 15, 12:17 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Daniel47
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Many years ago, I set my sister's (the nieces mother's) computer up
with C:\ for OS, D:\ for executables and E:\ for Data/Music/etc. That
lasted about five minutes, so any wonder my niece (Year 10) uses her
Laptop the way she does!!


Keeping (other) executables separate from the OS is quite hard work;
what with so many applications keeping things in various system folders
and their settings in the registry, I gave up that attempt long ago.
(Though the _data_ being separate I still manage, mostly.) [Year 10 - is
that about age 15? I think, certainly in an international 'group and/or
one where there are people of different ages!, we should just refer to
age ...]

Much prefer the way Linux does it!

[]
Can I set the Win7 OS up so that it thinks "My Documents", "My Music",
etc, are on the D:\, so when my niece saves a document, it will
automatically go to D:\??


I'm pretty certain you can; I'm not on my 7 machine at the moment, but
from memory, it's something like right-click on them, select properties,
and look for "location" and "move" in one of the tabs.

Daniel


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Old November 15th 15, 12:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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En el artículo , Daniel47 Daniel47@eternal-
september.org escribió:

Mike, I've used GParted to do thinks with-in various Linux
installations, so have it if needed. I was hoping to do it natively
with-in Win7, just to see if it was possible!!


Understood, thanks. I (and no doubt others) would be interested to hear
how you get on. Cheers

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