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Old November 15th 15, 03:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , FredW
writes:
[]
Start Windows Explorer
Go to Users\[name]\*.*

Right click on My Documents.
Click on Properties \ Location.
Change the location to the D:\ (or any other) partition.
Move folder.
Done.

[]
You can also specify the folder name, not just the partition.
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  #17  
Old November 15th 15, 03:27 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 11/15/15 2:21 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
When there is something in the way, it won't shrink below that.

The pagefile doesn't typically sit half way out. You can use

OK, not the pagefile. I can't remember what it is that the OS tends to
put half way. Maybe it's_any_ file that stops Disk Management shrinking

NFI to find out where your pagefile is today.

[I could if I knew what it was (-:]


I have no clue what NFI is either. LOL

But with some 3rd party defragmenters, they indicate in the disk map
some basic info about the files. Fragmented files one color, defragged
another color, and so on.

I'm doing a defrag right now, and the pagefile is fragmented in two parts.

IIRC, after defragging, I can turn virtual memory off, which removes the
pagefile. Then, turn virtual memory back on, and Windows will create a
pagefile that is not fragmented. There may be a couple reboots in
there, it's been so long since I did this I simply don't remember.


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  #18  
Old November 15th 15, 04:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 11/15/15 7:09 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , FredW
writes:
[]
Start Windows Explorer
Go to Users\[name]\*.*

Right click on My Documents.
Click on Properties \ Location.
Change the location to the D:\ (or any other) partition.
Move folder.
Done.

[]
You can also specify the folder name, not just the partition.


I think Fred should have noted that there are other personal folders to
be moved to get your data moved to a new location.

I take a different tack for getting this done.

Open the Start Menu, click on the account name. A window opens and all
your personal folders appear in the window. Then I walk through each
folder, open Properties, change the location on the Location tab by just
changing the drive or partition letter, press Enter 3 times, move to the
next folder. Windows moves the folder and all the files. Do it for
every folder that has a location tab.

I don't try to move user profiles, etc., just keep it simple in case I
run across some poorly programmed app that can't handle something other
than the norm.

2 things I'd like to do, but haven't spent a lot of time researching, is
a way to create the "special" folders like Contacts while in the
personal folder that have a location tab so the system will put that
folder and data in the new location and treat the new folder the same as
the Windows default folders.

The other is to have the information in the Library folders moved that
are in the hidden AppData folder.


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Firefox 36.0.4
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and it's gone!"
  #19  
Old November 15th 15, 04:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Ken Springer wrote:
On 11/15/15 2:21 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
When there is something in the way, it won't shrink below that.

The pagefile doesn't typically sit half way out. You can use

OK, not the pagefile. I can't remember what it is that the OS tends to
put half way. Maybe it's_any_ file that stops Disk Management shrinking

NFI to find out where your pagefile is today.

[I could if I knew what it was (-:]


I have no clue what NFI is either. LOL

But with some 3rd party defragmenters, they indicate in the disk map
some basic info about the files. Fragmented files one color, defragged
another color, and so on.

I'm doing a defrag right now, and the pagefile is fragmented in two parts.

IIRC, after defragging, I can turn virtual memory off, which removes the
pagefile. Then, turn virtual memory back on, and Windows will create a
pagefile that is not fragmented. There may be a couple reboots in
there, it's been so long since I did this I simply don't remember.


If you fix the size of the Pagefile, it would
probably be a bit more stable and not fragment.
You can select a min and max size (same value)
to make it behave itself.

*******

nfi.exe is a Win2K era utility by Microsoft.
It shows the LBA data cluster locations for a file,
as well as give evidence of how many file names
a file might have. It's a shame more effort wasn't
put into maintaining this, as it's handy for
experiments occasionally. nfi.exe is for
NTFS partition listing only, and doesn't work
on FAT32.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/253066

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...us/oem3sr2.zip

nfi.exe c: C:\users\username\downloads\nfi_for_c.txt

Paul

  #20  
Old November 15th 15, 05:22 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 11/15/15 8:40 AM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:
On 11/15/15 2:21 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
When there is something in the way, it won't shrink below that.

The pagefile doesn't typically sit half way out. You can use
OK, not the pagefile. I can't remember what it is that the OS tends to
put half way. Maybe it's_any_ file that stops Disk Management shrinking

NFI to find out where your pagefile is today.
[I could if I knew what it was (-:]


I have no clue what NFI is either. LOL

But with some 3rd party defragmenters, they indicate in the disk map
some basic info about the files. Fragmented files one color, defragged
another color, and so on.

I'm doing a defrag right now, and the pagefile is fragmented in two parts.

IIRC, after defragging, I can turn virtual memory off, which removes the
pagefile. Then, turn virtual memory back on, and Windows will create a
pagefile that is not fragmented. There may be a couple reboots in
there, it's been so long since I did this I simply don't remember.


If you fix the size of the Pagefile, it would
probably be a bit more stable and not fragment.
You can select a min and max size (same value)
to make it behave itself.


Which is what I do, and I always make it larger that what the OS
recommends. Do I have a plan as to how much larger? H*** no. LOL

snip


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Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 36.0.4
Thunderbird 31.5
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and it's gone!"
  #21  
Old November 16th 15, 12:52 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Ken Springer wrote:
On 11/15/15 8:40 AM, Paul wrote:


If you fix the size of the Pagefile, it would
probably be a bit more stable and not fragment.
You can select a min and max size (same value)
to make it behave itself.


Which is what I do, and I always make it larger that what the OS
recommends. Do I have a plan as to how much larger? H*** no. LOL

snip


Generally when I'm visiting that dialog, it's to make
the thing smaller, not larger. Somewhere in
the 512MB ro 1024MB range perhaps. Some versions
of Windows put up a dialog, whining if you make
it too small. I don't generally run with it set
to zero, unless it's a short term experiment or
a bar bet.

*******

The largest page file setting I've ever used
(and this was because I wanted a program to finish
no matter what), was 128GB on a 64 bit OS. And I think
the peak usage was only 20GB or so. Any attempts to use
this pagefile, would take forever. It took the program
a week to finish what it was doing, and I can't really
be sure the developer knows it takes that long, and
the operation is such a pig. But the operation would not
complete, without a lot of "fertilizer and sunshine".
So there will be occasions, rare ones, where you
might want to bump it up for a week.

Paul
  #22  
Old November 16th 15, 02:51 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 11/15/15 4:52 PM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:
On 11/15/15 8:40 AM, Paul wrote:


If you fix the size of the Pagefile, it would
probably be a bit more stable and not fragment.
You can select a min and max size (same value)
to make it behave itself.


Which is what I do, and I always make it larger that what the OS
recommends. Do I have a plan as to how much larger? H*** no. LOL

snip


Generally when I'm visiting that dialog, it's to make
the thing smaller, not larger. Somewhere in
the 512MB ro 1024MB range perhaps. Some versions
of Windows put up a dialog, whining if you make
it too small. I don't generally run with it set
to zero, unless it's a short term experiment or
a bar bet.

*******

The largest page file setting I've ever used
(and this was because I wanted a program to finish
no matter what), was 128GB on a 64 bit OS. And I think
the peak usage was only 20GB or so. Any attempts to use
this pagefile, would take forever. It took the program
a week to finish what it was doing, and I can't really
be sure the developer knows it takes that long, and
the operation is such a pig. But the operation would not
complete, without a lot of "fertilizer and sunshine".
So there will be occasions, rare ones, where you
might want to bump it up for a week.


I'm a multitasker, been that way since I learned what it is. So I've
always set mine at or larger than the recommended size. And I've always
had the HD space to do it.

Now that we're talking about it, I've never known how Windows determines
the recommended amount, just always gone with it and got on with my
life. G



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Firefox 36.0.4
Thunderbird 31.5
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and it's gone!"
  #23  
Old November 16th 15, 04:44 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Daniel47" wrote in message
...
On 15/11/2015 2:21 AM, Big Al wrote:
Daniel47 wrote on 11/14/2015 4:44 AM:


snip.

has
separated into a 115GB C:\ (called OS) and a 370GB D:\
(called Data), and, of course, the C:\ is now almost full (104GB used)
and the D:\ is almost empty (about 250MB (yes,
MB) used).

Could someone please tell me where I might find the re-sizing
capability or further instructions to do it, so I can give
her access to more of her HD??

End Game might be to copy the 250MB data from D:\ to C:\ and remove
D:\ totally, so C:\ can have all the HD. Is this
possible .... and simple??

TIA

Daniel


I find http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html Partition Wizard 9
Free a great too. You can do multiple actions, even though I suggest
one at a time.
It will resize, move, expand etc. I've rearranged many an OS and Data
partitions etc to make room for a 3rd Linux Partition.

And did I say it was free.
Nice GUI too.


Thanks for the recommendation, Big Al.

Daniel

Daniel,
This has got quite convoluted. Yes, you can simply do exactly what you
described.
First, back everything up. Then copy the data to c:\. Then delete d: Then
expand C:. You can use disk management for everything but the complete
backup.
Badabing.


  #24  
Old November 17th 15, 11:17 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel47
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On 15/11/2015 11:17 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Daniel47
writes:


Snip

Can I set the Win7 OS up so that it thinks "My Documents", "My Music",
etc, are on the D:\, so when my niece saves a document, it will
automatically go to D:\??


I'm pretty certain you can; I'm not on my 7 machine at the moment, but
from memory, it's something like right-click on them, select properties,
and look for "location" and "move" in one of the tabs.


Hmm!! Will have to check this out!!

Daniel


  #25  
Old November 17th 15, 11:22 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel47
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On 16/11/2015 12:56 AM, FredW wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 21:45:18 +1100, Daniel47
wrote:

Can I set the Win7 OS up so that it thinks "My Documents", "My Music",
etc, are on the D:\, so when my niece saves a document, it will
automatically go to D:\??



Yes, you can.
I did it when I started with Win7 years ago.
(I have to look up how I did it.)

Start Windows Explorer
Go to Users\[name]\*.*

Right click on My Documents.
Click on Properties \ Location.
Change the location to the D:\ (or any other) partition.
Move folder.
Done.

Repeat this for (as required):
- My Favorites
- My Documents
- My Downloads
- My Music
- My Pictures
- My Video

See also:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...-location.html

Thanks, Fred. When I do this, will MS Word, etc, then automatically go
to D:\ (or wherever). Right?? (i.e. Windows is not going to make a new
My Favorites on the C:\ and keep saving there??)

Daniel

  #26  
Old November 17th 15, 11:28 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel47
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On 16/11/2015 2:09 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 11/15/15 7:09 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , FredW
writes:
[]
Start Windows Explorer
Go to Users\[name]\*.*

Right click on My Documents.
Click on Properties \ Location.
Change the location to the D:\ (or any other) partition.
Move folder.
Done.

[]
You can also specify the folder name, not just the partition.


I think Fred should have noted that there are other personal folders to
be moved to get your data moved to a new location.

I take a different tack for getting this done.

Open the Start Menu, click on the account name. A window opens and all
your personal folders appear in the window. Then I walk through each
folder, open Properties, change the location on the Location tab by just
changing the drive or partition letter, press Enter 3 times, move to the
next folder. Windows moves the folder and all the files. Do it for
every folder that has a location tab.

I don't try to move user profiles, etc., just keep it simple in case I
run across some poorly programmed app that can't handle something other
than the norm.

2 things I'd like to do, but haven't spent a lot of time researching, is
a way to create the "special" folders like Contacts while in the
personal folder that have a location tab so the system will put that
folder and data in the new location and treat the new folder the same as
the Windows default folders.

The other is to have the information in the Library folders moved that
are in the hidden AppData folder.


Thanks, Ken.

Daniel

  #27  
Old November 17th 15, 11:30 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel47
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On 16/11/2015 2:44 PM, SPD wrote:
"Daniel47" wrote in message
...
On 15/11/2015 2:21 AM, Big Al wrote:
Daniel47 wrote on 11/14/2015 4:44 AM:


snip.

has
separated into a 115GB C:\ (called OS) and a 370GB D:\
(called Data), and, of course, the C:\ is now almost full (104GB used)
and the D:\ is almost empty (about 250MB (yes,
MB) used).

Could someone please tell me where I might find the re-sizing
capability or further instructions to do it, so I can give
her access to more of her HD??

End Game might be to copy the 250MB data from D:\ to C:\ and remove
D:\ totally, so C:\ can have all the HD. Is this
possible .... and simple??

TIA

Daniel

I find http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html Partition Wizard 9
Free a great too. You can do multiple actions, even though I suggest
one at a time.
It will resize, move, expand etc. I've rearranged many an OS and Data
partitions etc to make room for a 3rd Linux Partition.

And did I say it was free.
Nice GUI too.


Thanks for the recommendation, Big Al.

Daniel

Daniel,
This has got quite convoluted. Yes, you can simply do exactly what you
described.
First, back everything up. Then copy the data to c:\. Then delete d: Then
expand C:. You can use disk management for everything but the complete
backup.
Badabing.


Thanks for your suggestion.

Daniel

 




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