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keep getting errors when trying to do a hard drive to hard drive copy
I am in the process of using a PC to help copy data from a bunch of my
portable USB hard drives over to a master hard drive, just for back up purposes. I've been doing this in Win 7 just by dragging and dropping the files from one drive to the other. So far, so good except now I'm running into an issue: one of the external drives doesn't seem to want to copy its contents to the master drive. At first, I got error messages, something about a file missing that couldn't be copied. I chose to skip that as well as any other files found. Then, suddenly, everything would stop and the autoplay boxes would pop up for each drive. Only some data would be transferred. I've tried scanning and fixing drive errors, which Win 7 did report errors and fix them, but it hasn't helped. As a last resort, I'm using a Ubuntu CD to try the file transfer, but I shouldn't of had to do this. Any idea what's going on with this drive? It is a WD WDBAAF5000EBK-01 in a discrete HD casing with USB2 interface (this is how I bought it, I did not put in external case). Before I started attempting data transfer in Ubuntu, it reported the drive as healthy. thanks |
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keep getting errors when trying to do a hard drive to hard drivecopy
ABS wrote:
I am in the process of using a PC to help copy data from a bunch of my portable USB hard drives over to a master hard drive, just for back up purposes. I've been doing this in Win 7 just by dragging and dropping the files from one drive to the other. So far, so good except now I'm running into an issue: one of the external drives doesn't seem to want to copy its contents to the master drive. At first, I got error messages, something about a file missing that couldn't be copied. I chose to skip that as well as any other files found. Then, suddenly, everything would stop and the autoplay boxes would pop up for each drive. Only some data would be transferred. I've tried scanning and fixing drive errors, which Win 7 did report errors and fix them, but it hasn't helped. As a last resort, I'm using a Ubuntu CD to try the file transfer, but I shouldn't of had to do this. Any idea what's going on with this drive? It is a WD WDBAAF5000EBK-01 in a discrete HD casing with USB2 interface (this is how I bought it, I did not put in external case). Before I started attempting data transfer in Ubuntu, it reported the drive as healthy. thanks Something is causing the drive to disappear and reappear. I would remove it from the enclosure and connect it directly to the PC. It could be that some aspect of the power to the drive isn't working right. And a more direct connection to the PC will help (at the moment). The drive appears to be 3.5". It runs off +5V (logic board) and +12V (motor etc). Typically, an enclosure power source provides 12V @ 2A or so. (That is a wall adapter with a barrel plug on the end.) The USB board inside the enclosure, has a linear regulator to make +5V from the +12V coming from the external source. If the 12V is a bit too low, the drive does an emergency head retract. You hear a "click". Then moments later (when the voltage pops up again because of the reduced loading), the drive starts to spin up again. Then, the Autoplay boxes appear on the screen, as Windows "re-discovers" the hard drive. It could be an enclosure issue. It could be a drive issue (the drive isn't healthy). By removing the drive from the enclosure and putting it inside a desktop PC, you have a chance to remove the enclosure power as an issue with the setup. You will also be able to check the SMART stats, use a WDC test utility to do the "quick" test on the drive, and so on. Or use the free version of HDTune to characterize the current drive health. (With HDTune, you can do a read benchmark, and see if the curve is smooth. You can also check SMART in there, if the drive is connected via IDE or SATA cable to the inside of the PC.) For WDC Mybook enclosures, you can sometimes find a procedure on Youtube for opening the enclosure. There may be screws you can access via cooling grill holes. And so on. Just hope it isn't one of those "snap-together" enclosures you have to depress the tabs to get the two halves of the enclosure open. I hate stuff like that. Paul |
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keep getting errors when trying to do a hard drive to hard drivecopy
On 12/10/2016 09:18 AM, Paul wrote:
ABS wrote: I am in the process of using a PC to help copy data from a bunch of my portable USB hard drives over to a master hard drive, just for back up purposes. I've been doing this in Win 7 just by dragging and dropping the files from one drive to the other. So far, so good except now I'm running into an issue: one of the external drives doesn't seem to want to copy its contents to the master drive. At first, I got error messages, something about a file missing that couldn't be copied. I chose to skip that as well as any other files found. Then, suddenly, everything would stop and the autoplay boxes would pop up for each drive. Only some data would be transferred. I've tried scanning and fixing drive errors, which Win 7 did report errors and fix them, but it hasn't helped. As a last resort, I'm using a Ubuntu CD to try the file transfer, but I shouldn't of had to do this. Any idea what's going on with this drive? It is a WD WDBAAF5000EBK-01 in a discrete HD casing with USB2 interface (this is how I bought it, I did not put in external case). Before I started attempting data transfer in Ubuntu, it reported the drive as healthy. thanks Something is causing the drive to disappear and reappear. I would remove it from the enclosure and connect it directly to the PC. It could be that some aspect of the power to the drive isn't working right. And a more direct connection to the PC will help (at the moment). The drive appears to be 3.5". It runs off +5V (logic board) and +12V (motor etc). Typically, an enclosure power source provides 12V @ 2A or so. (That is a wall adapter with a barrel plug on the end.) The USB board inside the enclosure, has a linear regulator to make +5V from the +12V coming from the external source. If the 12V is a bit too low, the drive does an emergency head retract. You hear a "click". Then moments later (when the voltage pops up again because of the reduced loading), the drive starts to spin up again. Then, the Autoplay boxes appear on the screen, as Windows "re-discovers" the hard drive. It could be an enclosure issue. It could be a drive issue (the drive isn't healthy). By removing the drive from the enclosure and putting it inside a desktop PC, you have a chance to remove the enclosure power as an issue with the setup. You will also be able to check the SMART stats, use a WDC test utility to do the "quick" test on the drive, and so on. Or use the free version of HDTune to characterize the current drive health. (With HDTune, you can do a read benchmark, and see if the curve is smooth. You can also check SMART in there, if the drive is connected via IDE or SATA cable to the inside of the PC.) For WDC Mybook enclosures, you can sometimes find a procedure on Youtube for opening the enclosure. There may be screws you can access via cooling grill holes. And so on. Just hope it isn't one of those "snap-together" enclosures you have to depress the tabs to get the two halves of the enclosure open. I hate stuff like that. Paul I didn't mention it earlier, but I actually did remove the drive from the enclosure. It wasn't easy, but at least I can place it back inside when done. I have a USB 2 cradle and a Coolgear gadget that accepts all sorts of drives, also USB 2 output. Both of these have their own power supplies. In both cases, the drive wouldn't be recognized in Win 7. It would power up and churn, but Win 7 wanted to format it. I pulled the original circuit from the enclosure and reinstalled it on the drive and it was once again recognized in Win 7. This seems like a separate issue and there's probably some circuit set up where only the WD circuit will allow the drive to work, but I have no idea. Anyway,the data is currently being copied to the master drive and this is the furthest I have gotten so far with the transfer using disk management in the Ubuntu CD. Will update once it finishes and see how far it went. |
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keep getting errors when trying to do a hard drive to hard drivecopy
On 12/10/2016 09:50 AM, ABS wrote:
On 12/10/2016 09:18 AM, Paul wrote: ABS wrote: I am in the process of using a PC to help copy data from a bunch of my portable USB hard drives over to a master hard drive, just for back up purposes. I've been doing this in Win 7 just by dragging and dropping the files from one drive to the other. So far, so good except now I'm running into an issue: one of the external drives doesn't seem to want to copy its contents to the master drive. At first, I got error messages, something about a file missing that couldn't be copied. I chose to skip that as well as any other files found. Then, suddenly, everything would stop and the autoplay boxes would pop up for each drive. Only some data would be transferred. I've tried scanning and fixing drive errors, which Win 7 did report errors and fix them, but it hasn't helped. As a last resort, I'm using a Ubuntu CD to try the file transfer, but I shouldn't of had to do this. Any idea what's going on with this drive? It is a WD WDBAAF5000EBK-01 in a discrete HD casing with USB2 interface (this is how I bought it, I did not put in external case). Before I started attempting data transfer in Ubuntu, it reported the drive as healthy. thanks Something is causing the drive to disappear and reappear. I would remove it from the enclosure and connect it directly to the PC. It could be that some aspect of the power to the drive isn't working right. And a more direct connection to the PC will help (at the moment). The drive appears to be 3.5". It runs off +5V (logic board) and +12V (motor etc). Typically, an enclosure power source provides 12V @ 2A or so. (That is a wall adapter with a barrel plug on the end.) The USB board inside the enclosure, has a linear regulator to make +5V from the +12V coming from the external source. If the 12V is a bit too low, the drive does an emergency head retract. You hear a "click". Then moments later (when the voltage pops up again because of the reduced loading), the drive starts to spin up again. Then, the Autoplay boxes appear on the screen, as Windows "re-discovers" the hard drive. It could be an enclosure issue. It could be a drive issue (the drive isn't healthy). By removing the drive from the enclosure and putting it inside a desktop PC, you have a chance to remove the enclosure power as an issue with the setup. You will also be able to check the SMART stats, use a WDC test utility to do the "quick" test on the drive, and so on. Or use the free version of HDTune to characterize the current drive health. (With HDTune, you can do a read benchmark, and see if the curve is smooth. You can also check SMART in there, if the drive is connected via IDE or SATA cable to the inside of the PC.) For WDC Mybook enclosures, you can sometimes find a procedure on Youtube for opening the enclosure. There may be screws you can access via cooling grill holes. And so on. Just hope it isn't one of those "snap-together" enclosures you have to depress the tabs to get the two halves of the enclosure open. I hate stuff like that. Paul I didn't mention it earlier, but I actually did remove the drive from the enclosure. It wasn't easy, but at least I can place it back inside when done. I have a USB 2 cradle and a Coolgear gadget that accepts all sorts of drives, also USB 2 output. Both of these have their own power supplies. In both cases, the drive wouldn't be recognized in Win 7. It would power up and churn, but Win 7 wanted to format it. I pulled the original circuit from the enclosure and reinstalled it on the drive and it was once again recognized in Win 7. This seems like a separate issue and there's probably some circuit set up where only the WD circuit will allow the drive to work, but I have no idea. Anyway,the data is currently being copied to the master drive and this is the furthest I have gotten so far with the transfer using disk management in the Ubuntu CD. Will update once it finishes and see how far it went. Well, using the Ubuntu CD, I was able to copy the disk in its entirety to the master. This was even after I had placed it back into its original casing. So, now I'm not sure why it wouldn't transfer in Win 7. |
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keep getting errors when trying to do a hard drive to hard drivecopy
ABS wrote:
On 12/10/2016 09:50 AM, ABS wrote: On 12/10/2016 09:18 AM, Paul wrote: ABS wrote: I am in the process of using a PC to help copy data from a bunch of my portable USB hard drives over to a master hard drive, just for back up purposes. I've been doing this in Win 7 just by dragging and dropping the files from one drive to the other. So far, so good except now I'm running into an issue: one of the external drives doesn't seem to want to copy its contents to the master drive. At first, I got error messages, something about a file missing that couldn't be copied. I chose to skip that as well as any other files found. Then, suddenly, everything would stop and the autoplay boxes would pop up for each drive. Only some data would be transferred. I've tried scanning and fixing drive errors, which Win 7 did report errors and fix them, but it hasn't helped. As a last resort, I'm using a Ubuntu CD to try the file transfer, but I shouldn't of had to do this. Any idea what's going on with this drive? It is a WD WDBAAF5000EBK-01 in a discrete HD casing with USB2 interface (this is how I bought it, I did not put in external case). Before I started attempting data transfer in Ubuntu, it reported the drive as healthy. thanks Something is causing the drive to disappear and reappear. I would remove it from the enclosure and connect it directly to the PC. It could be that some aspect of the power to the drive isn't working right. And a more direct connection to the PC will help (at the moment). The drive appears to be 3.5". It runs off +5V (logic board) and +12V (motor etc). Typically, an enclosure power source provides 12V @ 2A or so. (That is a wall adapter with a barrel plug on the end.) The USB board inside the enclosure, has a linear regulator to make +5V from the +12V coming from the external source. If the 12V is a bit too low, the drive does an emergency head retract. You hear a "click". Then moments later (when the voltage pops up again because of the reduced loading), the drive starts to spin up again. Then, the Autoplay boxes appear on the screen, as Windows "re-discovers" the hard drive. It could be an enclosure issue. It could be a drive issue (the drive isn't healthy). By removing the drive from the enclosure and putting it inside a desktop PC, you have a chance to remove the enclosure power as an issue with the setup. You will also be able to check the SMART stats, use a WDC test utility to do the "quick" test on the drive, and so on. Or use the free version of HDTune to characterize the current drive health. (With HDTune, you can do a read benchmark, and see if the curve is smooth. You can also check SMART in there, if the drive is connected via IDE or SATA cable to the inside of the PC.) For WDC Mybook enclosures, you can sometimes find a procedure on Youtube for opening the enclosure. There may be screws you can access via cooling grill holes. And so on. Just hope it isn't one of those "snap-together" enclosures you have to depress the tabs to get the two halves of the enclosure open. I hate stuff like that. Paul I didn't mention it earlier, but I actually did remove the drive from the enclosure. It wasn't easy, but at least I can place it back inside when done. I have a USB 2 cradle and a Coolgear gadget that accepts all sorts of drives, also USB 2 output. Both of these have their own power supplies. In both cases, the drive wouldn't be recognized in Win 7. It would power up and churn, but Win 7 wanted to format it. I pulled the original circuit from the enclosure and reinstalled it on the drive and it was once again recognized in Win 7. This seems like a separate issue and there's probably some circuit set up where only the WD circuit will allow the drive to work, but I have no idea. Anyway,the data is currently being copied to the master drive and this is the furthest I have gotten so far with the transfer using disk management in the Ubuntu CD. Will update once it finishes and see how far it went. Well, using the Ubuntu CD, I was able to copy the disk in its entirety to the master. This was even after I had placed it back into its original casing. So, now I'm not sure why it wouldn't transfer in Win 7. It might have been a permissions problem. Keep in mind, that some backup utilities can bypass permissions. If file copying looks nasty as a procedure, pretend to make a backup. Macrium Reflect Free (backup) --- MRIMG file (will be big enough to hold all files) 20GB of files = 20GB MRIMG file MRIMG (right-click, select Mount) --- gives a virtual copy of the data at a separate drive letter. Drive letter works in explorer and has a custom icon. There is a tick box in the mounter that says "access restricted folders?" or similar. If you tick that, you should be able to copy stuff. Just an idea you can test at some point. http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx The nice thing about making a backup, is you automatically get everything. You can toss the MRIMG file when finished (unmount first of course :-) ). Or the MRIMG could be left on your "good" hard drive, with the copied files, for future reference. Paul |
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keep getting errors when trying to do a hard drive to hard drive copy
On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 09:18:17 -0500, Paul wrote:
Something is causing the drive to disappear and reappear. I would remove it from the enclosure and connect it directly to the PC. It could be that some aspect of the power to the drive isn't working right. And a more direct connection to the PC will help (at the moment). Or the USB port or cable is going bad, either electrically or mechanically. I had a Western Digital drive connected to my vintage 2010 Dell laptop, and though it was initially recognized the drive would quickly go unavailable. I thought the drive was bad, after less than a year, but later I discovered that the USB port had loosened up just enough over time that it no longer made a good connection with some cables. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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