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I go to web pages with FireFox and it complains about ad-blocker and the
web page does not display well. Punishment I guess. I checked Firefox for ad blockers but cannot find it in add-ons etc. So what other SW might I have that will do ad blocking on FireFox but not show up in add-ons. Note. I installed PaleMoon and the web pages do not complain about an ad-blocker and display quickly and properly. |
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WIN7USER wrote:
I go to web pages with FireFox and it complains about ad-blocker and the web page does not display well. Punishment I guess. I checked Firefox for ad blockers but cannot find it in add-ons etc. So what other SW might I have that will do ad blocking on FireFox but not show up in add-ons. Note. I installed PaleMoon and the web pages do not complain about an ad-blocker and display quickly and properly. See the "Enable Javascript" ? Advertisers *love* that stuff. This is the first English dialog I could find in a picture, to speed you on your way. http://www.vanseodesign.com/blog/wp-...javascript.png Paul |
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On 12/28/2016 05:06 PM, Paul wrote:
[snip] http://www.vanseodesign.com/blog/wp-...javascript.png Paul That looks like an option Firefox hasn't had for several versions now. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ Wouldn't it be funny if Elvis came back instead of Jesus? |
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Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 12/28/2016 05:06 PM, Paul wrote: [snip] http://www.vanseodesign.com/blog/wp-...javascript.png Paul That looks like an option Firefox hasn't had for several versions now. I just wanted a picture with the word "Javascript" in it. And the notion that you check the "Preferences" in an application if it doesn't behave. Paul |
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"Paul" wrote
| See the "Enable Javascript" ? Advertisers *love* that stuff. | This is the first English dialog I could find in a picture, | to speed you on your way. | | http://www.vanseodesign.com/blog/wp-...javascript.png | FF no longer has javascript settings except in about:config or with the Settings Sanity extension. And WIN7USER is talking about blocked ads, not script. How is he to make any sense at all of your post? |
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"WIN7USER" wrote
| I checked Firefox for ad blockers but cannot find it in add-ons etc. | You're *sure* there are no add-ons of any kind? If Pale Moon is fine that implies the problem is not a firewall or a HOSTS file, so you must be doing something to block ads in FF. The only idea I can think of is to compare your settings in each browser. PM is essentially the same thing as FF. |
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Mayayana wrote:
"Paul" wrote | See the "Enable Javascript" ? Advertisers *love* that stuff. | This is the first English dialog I could find in a picture, | to speed you on your way. | | http://www.vanseodesign.com/blog/wp-...javascript.png | FF no longer has javascript settings except in about:config or with the Settings Sanity extension. And WIN7USER is talking about blocked ads, not script. How is he to make any sense at all of your post? Turning off Javascript is the equivalent of "blocking adverts" to a web monkey. Paul |
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WIN7USER wrote:
I go to web pages with FireFox and it complains about ad-blocker and the web page does not display well. Punishment I guess. I checked Firefox for ad blockers but cannot find it in add-ons etc. So what other SW might I have that will do ad blocking on FireFox but not show up in add-ons. Note. I installed PaleMoon and the web pages do not complain about an ad-blocker and display quickly and properly. You can find some simple test pages. https://www.essentialobjects.com/JSCookieTest.htm This mouse-based test does stuff using Javascript. http://dunnbypaul.net/js_mouse/ Or, you can do some more extensive cookie testing, with the kind of cookies that abusive websites use. http://samy.pl/evercookie/ Paul |
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"Paul" wrote
| Turning off Javascript is the equivalent | of "blocking adverts" to a web monkey. | Not necessarily. I routinely disable javascript and don't get messages. Most sites are probably checking whether a remote image is loading. In any case, there's no indication that the OP has disable javascript, which takes some doing these days in FF. |
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On 12/28/2016 09:32 PM, Mayayana wrote:
[snip] Not necessarily. I routinely disable javascript and don't get messages. Most sites are probably checking whether a remote image is loading. In any case, there's no indication that the OP has disable javascript, which takes some doing these days in FF. I need to enable/disable Javascript frequently, to test things on my page. I'm currently using the "Javascript Toggle On and Off" Firefox extension. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ " Teaching children to pray encourages them to ask for whatever they want instead of working for it. Self-reliance and deity worship are contradictory concepts." |
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"WIN7USER" wrote in message news I go to web pages with FireFox and it complains about ad-blocker and the web page does not display well. Punishment I guess. I checked Firefox for ad blockers but cannot find it in add-ons etc. So what other SW might I have that will do ad blocking on FireFox but not show up in add-ons. Note. I installed PaleMoon and the web pages do not complain about an ad-blocker and display quickly and properly. It sounds like Ad Block Plus is installed. That's shown under Add-ons Extensions (FF 50.1.0). You're getting the same message I get with it, but then, probably most ad-blockers use the same one. Is there an option from within the message to "Allow {this site}"? I've seen that also with ADP. -- SC Tom |
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"SC Tom" wrote
| It sounds like Ad Block Plus is installed. That's shown under Add-ons | Extensions (FF 50.1.0). | You're getting the same message I get with it, but then, probably most | ad-blockers use the same one. Many sites now have such a message built in. If you view pages with no style you'll see that many commercial pages include a stock message that's designed to show when ads are blocked. (That's another reason that I question the role of disabling script: I normally disable script and I never see those messages because they're hidden by CSS and require script to dynamically make them visible. Anything dynamic, whether it's checking to see if you've loaded ads or showing you a nag message to say that you should load ads, requires script to work.) I wonder whether ad-blocking extensions are really a good approach, especially now with the whitelisting of "good" advertisers. I use Pale Moon and Firefox. In PM I disable all 3rd-party images. In FF I don't. In FF I have NoScript so that I can only enable script as needed. I also have a modest HOSTS file that blocks the major trackers and ad purveyors. I rarely see an ad in either browser. I'm making no direct effort to block them. I started the HOSTS file mainly for privacy. (And now it's even more important to block large ad companies for security, as ads are being used to do driveby malware downloads.) I have no problem with static ad images that are actually on a webpage. But such things are now nearly nonexistent, so I never see ads. The industry has developed in such a way that very few sites are actually showing ads on their pages. *The ads are not on the visited websites.* Rather, the pages have links or script snippets that allow big ad companies like Google/Doubleclick to spy on visitors, ID them and insert a "targetted" ad -- all happening completely separate from the actual page/site being visited. Giant spyware/adware companies are, in effect, hijacking the webpage before it gets to the browser. So it seems more realistic to me to deal with what the ads are rather than blocking them as though they were embedded images. In the old days an ad blocker had to recognize hundreds of typical HTML snippets that indicated an embedded ad image. These days one can just block Google/ Doubleclick in HOSTS and a large percentage of ads (and spyware tracking) disappear. Add a few more domains, like scorecardresearch, atdmt, etc and nearly all spyware/adware is stopped. Yet actual honest ads, that are actually on the visited webpage, are not hindered. The one pesky sleaze entity that's hard to avoid is Akamai, which acts as a rental server for many big sites and began, a few years ago, to also sell a spyware service. It's essentially a man-in-the-middle surveillance attack: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/11/...ee-technology/ I have less than 300 entries in my HOSTS file. But I also use Acrylic DNS, which acts as an intermediary on DNS calls and has its own HOSTS file that allows wildcards. So while the average person is hounded by numerous GoogleReich assaults at nearly every webpage, it can pretty much all be stopped with just the following: 127.0.0.1 *.googlesyndication.com 127.0.0.1 *.googleadservices.com 127.0.0.1 *.googlecommerce.com 127.0.0.1 *.scorecardresearch.com 127.0.0.1 1e100.com 127.0.0.1 1e100.net 127.0.0.1 *.1e100.com 127.0.0.1 *.1e100.net 127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.com 127.0.0.1 *.googletagservices.com 127.0.0.1 *.googletagmanager.com 127.0.0.1 *.google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1 fonts.googleapis.com 127.0.0.1 googleadapis.l.google.com 127.0.0.1 ssl.gstatic.com 127.0.0.1 plusone.google.com 127.0.0.1 cse.google.com 127.0.0.1 www.google.com/cse If people look at the source code of pages they visit they'll see that the online ad industry and datamining business are mostly run by a very small number of companies. |
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"Mark Lloyd" wrote
| I need to enable/disable Javascript frequently, to test things on my | page. I'm currently using the "Javascript Toggle On and Off" Firefox | extension. | I've always thought it odd browsers don't have a button on the toolbar to do exactly that. I guess in earlier times script was mostly used for "dazzle" and pages were designed to not depend on it. And these days the Internet is turning into an interactive TV shopping station. For that, script is necessary and the browser makers are cooperating by making it harder, rather than easier, to toggle it. The average person, unaware of extensions and obscure browser settings, has no chance of even knowing what they're allowing to run in the browser. |
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On 12/29/2016 08:16 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Mark Lloyd" wrote | I need to enable/disable Javascript frequently, to test things on my | page. I'm currently using the "Javascript Toggle On and Off" Firefox | extension. | I've always thought it odd browsers don't have a button on the toolbar to do exactly that. I guess in earlier times script was mostly used for "dazzle" and pages were designed to not depend on it. And these days the Internet is turning into an interactive TV shopping station. For that, script is necessary and the browser makers are cooperating by making it harder, rather than easier, to toggle it. The average person, unaware of extensions and obscure browser settings, has no chance of even knowing what they're allowing to run in the browser. That last thing reminds me of why I found the NoScript extension (which seemed a good idea) to be unusable. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ " Teaching children to pray encourages them to ask for whatever they want instead of working for it. Self-reliance and deity worship are contradictory concepts." |
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:16:24 -0500, Mayayana wrote:
"Mark Lloyd" wrote | I need to enable/disable Javascript frequently, to test things on my | page. I'm currently using the "Javascript Toggle On and Off" Firefox | extension. | I've always thought it odd browsers don't have a button on the toolbar to do exactly that. Here's one that was made earlier https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...don/quickjava/ It has buttons for 10 functions and each can be set to On or Off as the 'normal' state. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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