Microsoft won't fix the most frustrating thing about Windows

Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
Well, he might have a small point. In a friendly contest, the
Windows and Unix teams in our org once agreed to pick 25 tasks
to perform using distribution out of the box installs for four
different OS builds. Only one was Windows. The Windows build
was able to complete almost all tasks without installing any
additional software. The Unix builds needed 4-6 programs
installed to do the same thing and they were nice, but overly
complex for the typical dumb user.

Really? Windows doesn't come with any real application. OEMs bundle
trialware but most Linux distos come with a full compliment of
applications preinstalled, preconfigured, and automatically set to
update out-of-the-box. Also for all but for the most specialized
applications have a software repository for users. Windows has only just
recently adopted the concept, but does anyone really get anything from
the Windows Store other than Candy Crush?


Does that condemn Unix? No. It worked fine except for
printing. Printing always seems to suck with Linux for some
reason.

Printing is a mixed bag. Does help to stick with HP or Brother printers.

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Take care,

Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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On 2017-02-02 10:13 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
Well, he might have a small point. In a friendly contest, the
Windows and Unix teams in our org once agreed to pick 25 tasks to
perform using distribution out of the box installs for four
different OS builds. Only one was Windows. The Windows build
was able to complete almost all tasks without installing any
additional software. The Unix builds needed 4-6 programs
installed to do the same thing and they were nice, but overly
complex for the typical dumb user.

Really? Windows doesn't come with any real application. OEMs
bundle trialware but most Linux distos come with a full compliment
of applications preinstalled, preconfigured, and automatically set
to update out-of-the-box. Also for all but for the most
specialized applications have a software repository for users.
Windows has only just recently adopted the concept, but does anyone
really get anything from the Windows Store other than Candy Crush?

Other than a few crappy games which might have interested people as
they used their Windows Phones, the Windows Store, for the moment, has
absolutely nothing. Even for a decent version of Skype, you need to go
to the web site and download it directly. Like much of everything else
that Microsoft has come up with, it's half-assed despite its serious
potential.

However, anyone looking to buy Xbox One "exclusive" games like Gears
of War 4, ReCore and Halo Wars 2 can only get them on the Windows
Store. Apparently, these games will eventually make use of some new
"Game Mode" which will make them perform better if bought from the
Windows Store rather than something like Steam.

Does that condemn Unix? No. It worked fine except for printing.
Printing always seems to suck with Linux for some reason.

Printing is a mixed bag. Does help to stick with HP or Brother
printers.

It's great if connected directly (though the margins are off) but not
so great if your printer is connected to a router... at least in my case
..

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"Jonathan N. Little" wrote:

Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
Well, he might have a small point. In a friendly contest, the
Windows and Unix teams in our org once agreed to pick 25 tasks
to perform using distribution out of the box installs for four
different OS builds. Only one was Windows. The Windows build
was able to complete almost all tasks without installing any
additional software. The Unix builds needed 4-6 programs
installed to do the same thing and they were nice, but overly
complex for the typical dumb user.

Really? Windows doesn't come with any real application. OEMs bundle
trialware but most Linux distos come with a full compliment of
applications preinstalled, preconfigured, and automatically set to
update out-of-the-box. Also for all but for the most specialized
applications have a software repository for users. Windows has only just
recently adopted the concept, but does anyone really get anything from
the Windows Store other than Candy Crush?


Does that condemn Unix? No. It worked fine except for
printing. Printing always seems to suck with Linux for some
reason.

Printing is a mixed bag. Does help to stick with HP or Brother printers.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Silver Slimer wrote:
It's great if connected directly (though the margins are off) but not
so great if your printer is connected to a router... at least in my case

Now I disagree with that. Network printing works far more reliably with
Linux than Windows. The only issue that I have come up against is when
printing photos to an inkjet. The HPLIP driver is much slower than
Windows driver. No problem with the quality of the output. Now with
respect to drivers I found more problems with Windows than Linux.
Upgrading Windows lost support for some old workhorses which still work
just fine in latest versions of Ubuntu. I am only able to keep a old
very dependable LaserJet 2100 going by hosting on a Ubuntu server. Now
you will have trouble with a new crappy $45 Lexmark disposable WinPrinter...

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Silver Slimer wrote:

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On 2017-02-02 10:13 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
Well, he might have a small point. In a friendly contest, the
Windows and Unix teams in our org once agreed to pick 25 tasks to
perform using distribution out of the box installs for four
different OS builds. Only one was Windows. The Windows build
was able to complete almost all tasks without installing any
additional software. The Unix builds needed 4-6 programs
installed to do the same thing and they were nice, but overly
complex for the typical dumb user.

Really? Windows doesn't come with any real application. OEMs
bundle trialware but most Linux distos come with a full compliment
of applications preinstalled, preconfigured, and automatically set
to update out-of-the-box. Also for all but for the most
specialized applications have a software repository for users.
Windows has only just recently adopted the concept, but does anyone
really get anything from the Windows Store other than Candy Crush?

Other than a few crappy games which might have interested people as
they used their Windows Phones, the Windows Store, for the moment, has
absolutely nothing. Even for a decent version of Skype, you need to go
to the web site and download it directly. Like much of everything else
that Microsoft has come up with, it's half-assed despite its serious
potential.

However, anyone looking to buy Xbox One "exclusive" games like Gears
of War 4, ReCore and Halo Wars 2 can only get them on the Windows
Store. Apparently, these games will eventually make use of some new
"Game Mode" which will make them perform better if bought from the
Windows Store rather than something like Steam.

Does that condemn Unix? No. It worked fine except for printing.
Printing always seems to suck with Linux for some reason.

Printing is a mixed bag. Does help to stick with HP or Brother
printers.

It's great if connected directly (though the margins are off) but not
so great if your printer is connected to a router... at least in my case


My printer works extremely fine connected to the network. It is even
detected automatically in linux, and properly set up. Much easier than on
windows.
And when I print LO documents, they look *exactly* the same regardless if
printed on windows, OSX or linux.

How can that be, when you lying cretinous Snit tell us that this is
impossible?

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On 2017-02-02 12:16 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Silver Slimer wrote:
It's great if connected directly (though the margins are off) but
not so great if your printer is connected to a router... at least
in my case

Now I disagree with that. Network printing works far more reliably
with Linux than Windows. The only issue that I have come up against
is when printing photos to an inkjet. The HPLIP driver is much
slower than Windows driver. No problem with the quality of the
output. Now with respect to drivers I found more problems with
Windows than Linux. Upgrading Windows lost support for some old
workhorses which still work just fine in latest versions of Ubuntu.
I am only able to keep a old very dependable LaserJet 2100 going by
hosting on a Ubuntu server. Now you will have trouble with a new
crappy $45 Lexmark disposable WinPrinter...

Well, tell yourself that the printer in question is a Samsung ML-2510
connected to a router which provides the house with Internet. In
Windows, printing to it wireless requires a user to set it up to
connect via HTTP to
http://192.168.2.1:631/printers/Sams..._2510%20Series. If
necessary, it then downloads the driver and works within a minute. In
Linux, no combination of ports being opened and settings will allow it
to connect and printer... ever. It's not easier by any means.


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On 2017-02-02 12:19 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
Silver Slimer wrote:

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On 2017-02-02 10:13 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
Well, he might have a small point. In a friendly contest,
the Windows and Unix teams in our org once agreed to pick 25
tasks to perform using distribution out of the box installs
for four different OS builds. Only one was Windows. The
Windows build was able to complete almost all tasks without
installing any additional software. The Unix builds needed
4-6 programs installed to do the same thing and they were
nice, but overly complex for the typical dumb user.

Really? Windows doesn't come with any real application. OEMs
bundle trialware but most Linux distos come with a full
compliment of applications preinstalled, preconfigured, and
automatically set to update out-of-the-box. Also for all but
for the most specialized applications have a software
repository for users. Windows has only just recently adopted
the concept, but does anyone really get anything from the
Windows Store other than Candy Crush?

Other than a few crappy games which might have interested people
as they used their Windows Phones, the Windows Store, for the
moment, has absolutely nothing. Even for a decent version of
Skype, you need to go to the web site and download it directly.
Like much of everything else that Microsoft has come up with,
it's half-assed despite its serious potential.

However, anyone looking to buy Xbox One "exclusive" games like
Gears of War 4, ReCore and Halo Wars 2 can only get them on the
Windows Store. Apparently, these games will eventually make use
of some new "Game Mode" which will make them perform better if
bought from the Windows Store rather than something like Steam.

Does that condemn Unix? No. It worked fine except for
printing. Printing always seems to suck with Linux for some
reason.

Printing is a mixed bag. Does help to stick with HP or Brother
printers.

It's great if connected directly (though the margins are off) but
not so great if your printer is connected to a router... at least
in my case


My printer works extremely fine connected to the network. It is
even detected automatically in linux, and properly set up. Much
easier than on windows. And when I print LO documents, they look
*exactly* the same regardless if printed on windows, OSX or linux.

That's what you say but I don't believe anything you write anymore.
Besides, I clearly wrote that Linux fails in my specific situation. I
detailed it from the get-go so there was no lie no matter how hard you
look for one.

How can that be, when you lying cretinous Snit tell us that this is
impossible?

I should come up with a filter which deletes the last paragraph of
anything you post. It's always the same stupid insult demonstrating
what kind of a cowardly dick you are, Peter Köwardmann.

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On 2/2/17, 11:03 AM, in article , "Silver Slimer"
wrote:

.....
My printer works extremely fine connected to the network. It is
even detected automatically in linux, and properly set up. Much
easier than on windows. And when I print LO documents, they look
*exactly* the same regardless if printed on windows, OSX or linux.

That's what you say but I don't believe anything you write anymore.
Besides, I clearly wrote that Linux fails in my specific situation. I
detailed it from the get-go so there was no lie no matter how hard you
look for one.

Keep in mind what an expert Peter is with printing!

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Peter Köhlmann, after being shown these videos:
http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PrintFirstTime.mp4
http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/FirstScan.mov
Both show an OfficeJet Pro 8600 after being connected to a network and
being used for the first time on a Mac. And it works very, very well.
-----
Scanning [on OS X] is not supported *at* *all* without jumping
through several hoops. This includes hunting down 3 different
software packages (libusb, sane-backend and sane) *and* installing
them. Out of the box no scanning is supported at all. This is in
stark contrast to linux where scanning is supported right from the
start after setting up the printer

The same is true about *all* OfficeJet Pro printers under OSX.
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LOL! Yes, after being shown how an OfficeJet Pro works without doing
*anything* extra Peter still makes these completely incorrect claims.

Message-ID:
http://goo.gl/600BHt

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How can that be, when you lying cretinous Snit tell us that this is
impossible?

I should come up with a filter which deletes the last paragraph of
anything you post. It's always the same stupid insult demonstrating
what kind of a cowardly dick you are, Peter Köwardmann.

He is just going out of his way to prove my .sig correct.

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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Silver Slimer wrote:

Well, tell yourself that the printer in question is a Samsung ML-2510
connected to a router which provides the house with Internet. In
Windows, printing to it wireless requires a user to set it up to
connect via HTTP to
http://192.168.2.1:631/printers/Sams..._2510%20Series. If
necessary, it then downloads the driver and works within a minute. In
Linux, no combination of ports being opened and settings will allow it
to connect and printer... ever. It's not easier by any means.



I'd hazard a guess that your problem is with your firewall or
misconfiguration of your network.

http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/SamsungML2510

Port 631 us the cups port so unless for some reason you do not have cups
installed...

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Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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On 2017-02-02 1:48 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Silver Slimer wrote:

Well, tell yourself that the printer in question is a Samsung
ML-2510 connected to a router which provides the house with
Internet. In Windows, printing to it wireless requires a user to
set it up to connect via HTTP to
http://192.168.2.1:631/printers/Sams..._2510%20Series. If
necessary, it then downloads the driver and works within a
minute. In Linux, no combination of ports being opened and
settings will allow it to connect and printer... ever. It's not
easier by any means.



I'd hazard a guess that your problem is with your firewall or
misconfiguration of your network.

http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/SamsungML2510

Port 631 us the cups port so unless for some reason you do not have
cups installed...

It didn't work on either Ubuntu or Korora and as far as I know, CUPS
is installed by default in both.


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Fingerprint: e58428b2633833a3b0c9bb7e40819166642245b7
Gab.ai: @silverslimer

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On 2/2/17, 11:48 AM, in article , "Jonathan N.
Little" wrote:

Silver Slimer wrote:

Well, tell yourself that the printer in question is a Samsung ML-2510
connected to a router which provides the house with Internet. In
Windows, printing to it wireless requires a user to set it up to
connect via HTTP to
http://192.168.2.1:631/printers/Sams..._2510%20Series. If
necessary, it then downloads the driver and works within a minute. In
Linux, no combination of ports being opened and settings will allow it
to connect and printer... ever. It's not easier by any means.



I'd hazard a guess that your problem is with your firewall or
misconfiguration of your network.

http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/SamsungML2510

Port 631 us the cups port so unless for some reason you do not have cups
installed...

Printing does seem odd on Linux. I can print MOST things, but have found a
specific recipe that just will not print for me. Does on other OSs. Here is
the video:

https://youtu.be/c8R9y-rsEEc

I am setting up my wife's computer with Linux... it is, so far, not
impressing her. When I recorded that I was somewhat frustrated with the
system... you will see why.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Silver Slimer wrote:

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On 2017-02-02 1:48 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Silver Slimer wrote:

Well, tell yourself that the printer in question is a Samsung
ML-2510 connected to a router which provides the house with
Internet. In Windows, printing to it wireless requires a user to
set it up to connect via HTTP to
http://192.168.2.1:631/printers/Sams..._2510%20Series. If
necessary, it then downloads the driver and works within a
minute. In Linux, no combination of ports being opened and
settings will allow it to connect and printer... ever. It's not
easier by any means.



I'd hazard a guess that your problem is with your firewall or
misconfiguration of your network.

http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/SamsungML2510

Port 631 us the cups port so unless for some reason you do not have
cups installed...

It didn't work on either Ubuntu or Korora and as far as I know, CUPS
is installed by default in both.


Irrelevant. If the port is blocked in the firewall, your printer will not be
seen

Silver Slimer wrote:

It didn't work on either Ubuntu or Korora and as far as I know, CUPS
is installed by default in both.

Now you have friendly web interface in web browser:

http://localhost:631

Check the log and see what the error is.

Also tail /var/log/syslog and /var/log/cups/error_log while trying to
setup printer and see what errors occur realtime...

Again most likely a firewall and|or network configuration issue. Don't
have that model but when my son was still living here had no problem
whatsoever connecting to his CLP-300N.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 2017-02-02, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Silver Slimer wrote:

It didn't work on either Ubuntu or Korora and as far as I know, CUPS
is installed by default in both.

Now you have friendly web interface in web browser:

http://localhost:631

Check the log and see what the error is.

Also tail /var/log/syslog and /var/log/cups/error_log while trying to
setup printer and see what errors occur realtime...

Again most likely a firewall and|or network configuration issue. Don't
have that model but when my son was still living here had no problem
whatsoever connecting to his CLP-300N.

Oh this is kind of funny. I do own a Samsung color laser, model CLP-315
and I can confirm it works on EVERY Linux distribution I have tried.

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https://github.com/marek-novotny

Snit wrote:
On 2/2/17, 11:48 AM, in article , "Jonathan N.
Little" wrote:

Silver Slimer wrote:

Well, tell yourself that the printer in question is a Samsung ML-2510
connected to a router which provides the house with Internet. In
Windows, printing to it wireless requires a user to set it up to
connect via HTTP to
http://192.168.2.1:631/printers/Sams..._2510%20Series. If
necessary, it then downloads the driver and works within a minute. In
Linux, no combination of ports being opened and settings will allow it
to connect and printer... ever. It's not easier by any means.



I'd hazard a guess that your problem is with your firewall or
misconfiguration of your network.

http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/SamsungML2510

Port 631 us the cups port so unless for some reason you do not have cups
installed...

Printing does seem odd on Linux. I can print MOST things, but have found a
specific recipe that just will not print for me. Does on other OSs. Here is
the video:

https://youtu.be/c8R9y-rsEEc

I am setting up my wife's computer with Linux... it is, so far, not
impressing her. When I recorded that I was somewhat frustrated with the
system... you will see why.



Gee don't know what your problem was. I don't like Chrome, prefer
Firefox and SeaMonkey, but I installed Chromium and went to your recipe
page and here is the print results both on a networked antique HP
LaserJet 2100 and to a newer HP LaserJet Pro 400c

http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/printing

Works just fine for me... Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

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