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Old November 10th 18, 03:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jim Dell
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Default Windows 10 file open dialog

I am having a strange problem with my desktop PC.
When I go to open a file (in any program) it use to show suggestions
after I type in a few characters of the file name.

It no longer does this.

How can I bring back that feature and what's its proper name?

Jim
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Old November 10th 18, 03:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows 10 file open dialog

On 10/11/2018 14:14, Jim Dell wrote:
I am having a strange problem with my desktop PC.
When I go to open a file (in any program) it use to show suggestions
after I type in a few characters of the file name.

It no longer does this.

How can I bring back that feature and what's its proper name?

Jim


Go to the settings and then look for:

Devices Typing

Now look for something like in this picture this and make sure
everything is set to On.

https://i.imgur.com/IhGOXPJ.png https://i.imgur.com/IhGOXPJ.png

Good Luck Nym Shifter.

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Old November 10th 18, 03:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows 10 file open dialog

Jim Dell wrote:
I am having a strange problem with my desktop PC.
When I go to open a file (in any program) it use to show suggestions
after I type in a few characters of the file name.

It no longer does this.

How can I bring back that feature and what's its proper name?


Common dialog box MRU I think is what you are referring to. This shows
for Windows 7 but probably applies to Windows 10 too:

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/206632-common-dialog-boxes-enable-disable-dropdown-list-recent-files.html

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Old November 11th 18, 03:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows 10 file open dialog

Jim Dell wrote:
I am having a strange problem with my desktop PC.
When I go to open a file (in any program) it use to show suggestions
after I type in a few characters of the file name.

It no longer does this.

How can I bring back that feature and what's its proper name?

Jim


At a guess, it's called "AutoComplete".

https://www.winhelponline.com/xp/nofileautocomplete.htm

The winhelponline site thinks you currently have this situation,
which turns it off.

[HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Exp lorer\AutoComplete]
"AutoComplete In File Dialog" DWORD 0

Their registry merge file just removes the entry entirely.

I couldn't find a list of alternative values for that
entry, so you could set the DWORD to say 1 and have
the thing work again. Maybe it would work, but I don't
have documentation. It would be nicer if they just
used Booleans and were done with it.

When the item is completely missing, and there is no

"AutoComplete In File Dialog"

item, then the file dialog should autocomplete for you and
offer a small menu of matches for what you've typed so far.

Paul
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Old November 11th 18, 02:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jim Dell
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Default Windows 10 file open dialog

Paul wrote:
Jim Dell wrote:
I am having a strange problem with my desktop PC.
When I go to open a file (in any program) it use to show suggestions
after I type in a few characters of the file name.

It no longer does this.

How can I bring back that feature and what's its proper name?

Jim


At a guess, it's called "AutoComplete".

https://www.winhelponline.com/xp/nofileautocomplete.htm

The winhelponline site thinks you currently have this situation,
which turns it off.

[HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Exp lorer\AutoComplete]
Β* "AutoComplete In File Dialog"Β* DWORDΒ* 0

Their registry merge file just removes the entry entirely.

I couldn't find a list of alternative values for that
entry, so you could set the DWORD to say 1 and have
the thing work again. Maybe it would work, but I don't
have documentation. It would be nicer if they just
used Booleans and were done with it.

When the item is completely missing, and there is no

Β*Β*Β* "AutoComplete In File Dialog"

item, then the file dialog should autocomplete for you and
offer a small menu of matches for what you've typed so far.

Β*Β* Paul

Paul
Thank you.
That led me to the Setting-Internet Properties . Content tab where you
can turn it on.

It's kind of misleading in that by its name you would think it only
applies to the internet, but it also applies to Office programs.


The other proposed fixes didn't work, bur thanks to those people for trying.

Jim
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Old November 11th 18, 03:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Windows 10 file open dialog

Jim Dell wrote:
Paul wrote:
Jim Dell wrote:
I am having a strange problem with my desktop PC.
When I go to open a file (in any program) it use to show suggestions
after I type in a few characters of the file name.

It no longer does this.

How can I bring back that feature and what's its proper name?

Jim


At a guess, it's called "AutoComplete".

https://www.winhelponline.com/xp/nofileautocomplete.htm

The winhelponline site thinks you currently have this situation,
which turns it off.

[HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Exp lorer\AutoComplete]
"AutoComplete In File Dialog" DWORD 0

Their registry merge file just removes the entry entirely.

I couldn't find a list of alternative values for that
entry, so you could set the DWORD to say 1 and have
the thing work again. Maybe it would work, but I don't
have documentation. It would be nicer if they just
used Booleans and were done with it.

When the item is completely missing, and there is no

"AutoComplete In File Dialog"

item, then the file dialog should autocomplete for you and
offer a small menu of matches for what you've typed so far.

Paul

Paul
Thank you.
That led me to the Setting-Internet Properties . Content tab where you
can turn it on.

It's kind of misleading in that by its name you would think it only
applies to the internet, but it also applies to Office programs.


The other proposed fixes didn't work, bur thanks to those people for
trying.

Jim


Windows is tricky when it comes to naming.

explorer.exe File Explorer (it also draws your desktop on older OSes)

iexplore.exe Internet Explorer (a web browser)

Explorer.exe is your DE or desktop environment. (On Windows 10,
the Task Manager shows "DWM", which helps handle a mixture of
environments, so the partitioning is a bit different on Win10.
The "Displaying" function has been separated a bit.)

The desktop environment has common file dialogs. Any Win32 application
could be using the Open Dialog, the one with the Autocomplete feature.

The registry entry in my previous post, belongs to explorer.exe.

The registry entry should affect any application which
"calls" the system open file dialog. By offering library
routines of that sort, it saves application developers time,
and it also provides a consistent user experience from
one program to another. You can have Notepad open and
have that dialog. You can have Autocad open and
have that dialog.

An application developer is perfectly free to make their
own open file dialog, and break the rules by doing so.
Perhaps displaying files in some new, disturbing way.
But that's also a lot of work. The lazy mans way is
to call the system dialog.

*******

iexplore.exe is the web browser. There are actually two
executables on the machine. There is a 32 bit version
and a 64 big version (on a 64 bit OS installation). We're
not sure why both exist - it could be some plugins that
are 32 bit only and profit from that version. It also
is a demonstration to other developers, that the OS can
support both at the same time. Of course, nobody told
the users this, and most people aren't aware what
the hell they just executed :-) I always get a laugh
out of this (Microsoft showing off, and confusing
the users, at the same time).

And the Internet security settings dialog that is used
with iexplore.exe, that applies to more than just that
browser. Some of the other third-party browser makers
didn't want to duplicate the function, so they accepted
the iexplore.exe settings as their own. If you change
those settings, and you notice something weird happening
with your other browser, that's a potential reason why.

The iexplore.exe security settings, occupy around
2000 registry entries. Which is a good reason not
to change them that way (with regedit) :-) The
reason for the large number, is there are five
"zones", and the permutations and combinations
multiply together to give 2000 entries.

Paul
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Old November 11th 18, 03:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mayayana
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Default Windows 10 file open dialog

"Paul" wrote

| The registry entry should affect any application which
| "calls" the system open file dialog. By offering library
| routines of that sort, it saves application developers time,
| and it also provides a consistent user experience from
| one program to another. You can have Notepad open and
| have that dialog. You can have Autocad open and
| have that dialog.
|
| An application developer is perfectly free to make their
| own open file dialog, and break the rules by doing so.
| Perhaps displaying files in some new, disturbing way.
| But that's also a lot of work. The lazy mans way is
| to call the system dialog.
|

It's a little more complicated than that. Pre-Vista
the API is GetOpenFileName. On Vista+ that still works
but there's a newer option that seems to be a wrapper
function:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...=VS.85%29.aspx

It's a COM-ified, arguably overproduced, FileOpen
dialogue. But it doesn't provide much of value that I
can see. There's an option to customize the "Places Bar",
but that would be rude behavior. People may have
already put their own custom choices on the Places Bar.
I'd be rather annoyed if some wiseguy changed it to
give me options like a program's app data folder, or My
Documents (which I never use).

I'm assuming the auto-suggest functionality requires that
newer COM API function. (The newer API also allows the programmer
to monitor your file selections and typing in the window, while
the older style didn't.) Though the MS docs don't mention
auto-suggest. I guess that's because it's not under the control
of the programmer.

But there's no reason any particular
program needs to use the newer FileOpen function, much
less switch to it in the case of pre-existing code, unless
the author has their mind set on messing with your Places
Bar. In the case of older software being updated, it's a lot
of extra work for no appreciable benefit. It also requires
coordinating the operation with the Windows version,
using one API for XP and earlier with another API for
Vista+. It's a classic example of how software gets broken
unnecessarily because programmers don't know what
they're doing and just grab the latest function.

All of which is to say that I wouldn't assume you're
going to get consistent behavior based on the Registry
setting.


 




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