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  #61  
Old January 1st 19, 11:12 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 1/1/19 3:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
You seem to be addicted to making up stuff that justifies your position.


Did you know that 98.765% of all the statistics you read have been
made-up on the spot?

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  #62  
Old January 1st 19, 11:47 PM posted to alt.test,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Wolf K
wrote:

Not too long ago, we took it for granted that our names, addresses, and
phone numbers would be published every year in the phone book. We
_wanted_ it that way. We wanted people to be able to reach us by phone
or mail, and the phone book was a handy public repository of the
necessary information. Some people had unlisted numbers. We accepted
that a few few needed those because of harassment or other personal
danger, but there was always the suspicion, occasionally voiced in a
near sneer for example, that most unlisted numbers were just attempts at
generating importance that the facts didn't warrant. But now, people try
to conceal their phone numbers, don't want there addresses to be public
knowledge, etc.


the world is different now.

back then, there weren't automated data mining bots scraping every bit
of public information and cross-correlating it all to build incredibly
detailed profiles about people, which can easily be accessed with a
couple of keystrokes at any time, by anybody, from anywhere, providing
a *lot* of detailed information, often with just a name.

In the specialty magazines, I see more and more print
ads that list only a website, no phone number, no physical address. Same
on more and more product packaging. What are they trying to hide?


they're not hiding anything.

a web site is the most common and most efficient method to contact and
hopefully order whatever it is, so that's what they provide.

they don't need a store front or a staff answering phones anymore.
  #63  
Old January 2nd 19, 12:22 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 17:12:21 -0500, Jean-David Beyer
wrote:

On 1/1/19 3:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
You seem to be addicted to making up stuff that justifies your position.


Did you know that 98.765% of all the statistics you read have been
made-up on the spot?


That's with an error of +/- 3.726%
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  #64  
Old January 2nd 19, 12:24 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 17:08:10 -0500, nospam
wrote:

what you intended to say and what you actually said are not the same,
but what's really odd are the lengths to which you are going to justify
it.

THat's good - coming from you. :-)
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  #65  
Old January 2nd 19, 12:27 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 22:35:16 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote:

"Wolf K" wrote

| The plastic wasn't the problem. The
| problem was the state of mind that produced the plastic
| and then tried to "elegantize" it with wood grain contact
| paper.
|
| Someone was listening. You now can get plastic (MDF-cored) cabinetry
| that's unashamedly synthetic: colours and textures that can be achieved
| only with plastics.
|

Melamine?
I actually did a job a couple of years ago
in a very posh condo where they wanted to repair
the kitchen cabinets. They were surprised that I had
never heard of the very posh brand: Poggenpohl, which
has a designer store on the main fashion street in Boston.

The customer figured they'd need to order new doors
through the Poggenpohl dealer. The cabinets were too
fancy for a mere carpenter to handle. Rosewood, or some
such.
I took off a hinge to see. It was plastic laminate made to
look like a "generic" exotic wood. Rosewood. Bubinga.
Whatever. The core was particle board. But not even
good particle board. It was the low density stuff made
of chips with a lot of air in between. Only the best fake
exotic wood laminate for such expensive condos.


An ex son in law told me that once knowingly bought a fake Rolex on
the assurance that it had a good Seiko movement inside. It stopped one
day and when he took it in to get fixed he found that it was a fake
Seiko too ...

More recently I was in a new hospice building. There
was something that looked like a hand-carved cherry
"screen", about 3'x8'. It looked very real. But on closer
inspection I could see it was plastic. Part of what gave it
away was the excessively rough, and regularly patterned,
carving marks.
That happens so often. It's the same with fake plastic
panel doors. They'd look OK if they were smooth. But the
manufacturers overcompensate, making them with such
rough fake grain that they look sandblasted. If it were
a real wood door then it would be thrown away: A pity
they ruined it with the sandblasting.

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  #66  
Old January 2nd 19, 01:12 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-12-31, nospam wrote:

there is zero ambiguity what 'every call is recorded' means.


It could mean that a record is made of every call.
It could mean that a recording is made of every call.

There is ambiguity.

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  #67  
Old January 2nd 19, 03:24 AM posted to alt.test,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Off-Topic

In article
William Unruh wrote:

On 2019-01-01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 01/01/2019 02:44, nospam wrote:
you cannot accept that 'every call is recorded' means something other
than what you think it does, which is making an audio recording of
every call, not a log of who called whom and when.


All the kings horses and all the kings men,
Couldnt put Humpty together again.

Words do not mean what you alone intend them to mean.
If you are only talking to yourself you can say what the **** you like

If you are attempting communication (as against egotistical browbeating)
with other people it behoves you to use words as others expect them to
be used.


Except other people, which includes individuals other than you, have
different districts of meaning surrounding words, because they have
different experience with the language and with life. It is that spread
of meaning which makes poetry possible.
(But then you probably hate poetry).




  #68  
Old January 2nd 19, 05:25 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 01/01/2019 21:06, Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-01-01 14:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 01/01/2019 17:26, Wolf K wrote:
If you insist that it can't mean what I intended it to mean _in that
context_, that's not my problem.


It bloody well is.

If you say 'I think I will shoot you' and wave a gun in my face, and I
am also armed I will make a BIG problem for you even if you say,
assuming you survive 'I didn't mean actually SHOOT you'.


Oh, come on. This counter example is just fantasy. Actually, if you're a
cop, you're supposed to be able to deescalate the situation. People who
wave guns at cops either want to be shot ("suicide by cop", not very
common) or are terrified they will be shot (most common). People who
actually want to kill you (cop or not) don't wave the gun, still less
announce their intention, they aim and squeeze the trigger. [1]


I merely picked an extreme example to [prove te principle. If someone
misunderstands you and takes action against you that is your problem.

Stop weaselling

If others act on your communications and their actions impinge on you,
that IS your problem.

You appear to be a solipsist or a narcissist.


Fact is, you have to make sense of ambiguities in writing all the time.
Can't be helped. Writing doesn't have intonation or body language etc to
go with the words, hence the rules of writing are more stringent than
the rules of speech. (I've violated one of the rules already.) That of
course includes technical vocabulary, but even that isn't as neatly
fixed as one would like.


№ its not a fact. Or wasnt until the socialist took control of education.

Imn my day we were taught one way of doing things. Dictionaries defined
standards, and sloppy writing that didn't make proper sense was punshable.,

You are clearly of the snowflake generation. As I said a narcissist or a
solipsist.



Not to mention, that on the borders where technical and vernacular
overlap, there are dialectical/regional/etc differences. There have been
plaints here that some technical term is misused, when what's actually
happened is that it's been adopted into the vernacular, and so has lost
its precision. You can't stop that process, but polite correction may
prevent the worst excesses. Just don;t hold your breath.

As I saifd it behones peole to use lsanguiage as their target audience
expets it to be used and according to te standards

So while I could have been more careful in composing my comment, I
wasn't. Too bad for us both if you didn't take that into account when
reading my comment. That's life.


Acvoodrding to you, its not too bad for YOU.


Bottom line: considering most posts on Usenet are mere reaction and not
considered comment it's surprising there isn't more ambiguity and
vagueness. Such as in your use of 'solipsist' and 'narcissist', which I
infer are intended as insult.


You infer wrong. But then narcissist always see the world as all about
them. And prefer an insult to being ignored.

They are intended as a statement of fact.

Tsk, tsk. Your past posts have exhibited
rather strong streak of curmudgeonliness, so I've discounted the
apparent insult to mere bad temper.


I have corrected your misapprehension.

Your symptoms are very classic signs of clinical narcissism. In
particular they insistence that your view is the One True View and
everyone else is wrong. And your insistence that any misunderstanding is
someone elses's problem.

Add that to your obvious desire to be noticed and we have a fairly
classic case of sociopathic narcissistic personality disorder,

Of course the one thing a narcissist always denies is that he or she has
a personality problem, as they have to maintian they are perfect in
every way....





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Adolf Hitler

  #69  
Old January 2nd 19, 05:27 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 01/01/2019 21:31, Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-01-01 15:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 01/01/2019 17:34, Wolf K wrote:
So you haven't come across "check the record..." I have. Many times.
It tends to be British usage, and it means what you would phrase as
"Check the log..."


I am 100% brit and I have NEVER heard ANYONE ever say that in an IT
context.


I believe you. But I've heard "check the phone records" on cop shows (eg
just a couple of nights ago on Midsomer Murders) several times. See, not
every context is IT. FTR, I don't consider billing as an exclusively IT
context, but won't object if you want to see it as that. For billing, IT
is just one tool among many. Collecting and recording the necessary data
predates IT by, oh, a few centuries at least. FWIW, that dictionary I
mentioned (British, published in Glasgow in 1948) lists six meanings for
'to record', none of which refer to or include audio recordings, even
though its date would suggest that by that time "make an audio
recording" would be a common meaning. Odd, eh?

Outside of IT we might says 'look up the record(s)' but that would not
be about phone calls* or their logs.


Why have I heard in that sense then?


You haven't. Like most narcissists you create a version of history that
justifies your current position and believe in it completely.


You seem to be addicted to making up stuff that justifies your position.


Nah, I'm just a collector of unconsidered trifles, since I know that
one's experience is necessarily limited, so any and everything is worth
a look. As I used to tell my students: "There is no such thing as a
useless fact. There are only facts whose use you haven't discovered yet
(and maybe never will). At the very least, some fact may in future
connect two other facts." A principle that is not original with me, but
I forget whom I stole it from. Some philosophers would say it's what
gives facts their meaning(s), but that's another issue.


I might have guessed a useless narcissist would turn to teaching a
captive audience.

Best,




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  #70  
Old January 2nd 19, 05:29 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 01/01/2019 22:12, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
On 1/1/19 3:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
You seem to be addicted to making up stuff that justifies your position.


Did you know that 98.765% of all the statistics you read have been
made-up on the spot?

I dnt know it, but I have long suspected that any facts that are printed
or voiced in the MSM are random accidents.

Once, newspapers were there to tell you news, and opinion was clearly
labelled, and advertisements had their own sections.

Now it is all advertisements disguised as opinion disguised as news.


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  #71  
Old January 2nd 19, 08:06 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 04:29:39 +0000, LO AND BEHOLD; The Natural
Philosopher determined that the following was of
great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
:

✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ On 01/01/2019 22:12, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ On 1/1/19 3:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ You seem to be addicted to making up stuff that justifies your position.
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Did you know that 98.765% of all the statistics you read have been
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ made-up on the spot?
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ I dnt know it, but I have long suspected that any facts that are printed
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ or voiced in the MSM are random accidents.
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Once, newspapers were there to tell you news, and opinion was clearly
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ labelled, and advertisements had their own sections.
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Now it is all advertisements disguised as opinion disguised as news.

you must be talking about any "news" program that covers worthless sports. like the "nationalist football league", for instance.

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