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  #16  
Old December 30th 18, 07:18 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
123456789[_2_]
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Default Hey all you Apple worshipers, have a look at this!

On 12/30/2018 11:00 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
123456789 wrote:


the urge to respond [to trolls] is often irresistible.


Not if they are killfiled.


A killfiled troll rises from the dead in the quotes of others.

I always figured that someone posting a "plonk" or "you're killfiled"
was making an attempt to make the troll feel bad. As if the troll cared.
IMO it's much easier to just read the "FROM" column and NOT open posts
from the people one dislikes. I avoid the vulgar and threatening ones.
The others are as I said interesting and entertaining (to me).

YMMV of course...


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  #17  
Old December 30th 18, 07:23 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
Rod Speed
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Default Hey all you Apple worshipers, have a look at this!



"Meanie" wrote in message ...
On 12/29/2018 10:50 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/29/2018 7:35 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/29/2018 3:15 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/28/2018 6:07 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2018-12-28 18:24:06 +0000, Meanie said:
On 12/28/2018 2:44 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
Your Name wrote:
On 2018-12-27 16:34:23 +0000, Nomen Nescio said:
In article
nospam wrote:
In article , Nomen
Nescio
wrote:

Lol. Tell us again about how the G3 BGA video chips falling
off
system boards was such a fine build.

you already trolled that today.

as mentioned in my other post, that was due defective nvidia
chips
affecting all companies who used them, not anything apple did.

BS. It was faulty BGA grid soldering.

Or the iPhone 7s that catch on fire.

all devices that use a lithium ion battery can potentially
catch fire,
with iphones are among the safest and the samsung galaxy note
7 the
worst.

Really?

November 15, 2018
iPhone X Explodes During iOS 12.1 Upgrade Sparking Apple
Investigation

A. He said "iPhones are among the safest" ... he did NOT say
that
iPhones were totally safe. If you could actually read, you would
have also understood the meaning of "all devices that use a
lithium ion battery can potentially catch fire".

iPhones are for the lazy and stupid because they can't operate
anything else.

B. If you read the reports on the conclusions as to what really
happened, you'll probably find that "exploding" iPhone in that
and many other (not all) news reports was due to the owner using
a non-certified, crappily-made, el cheapo, third-party Chinese
power adapter.

All iPhones are crappily-made, el cheapo, third-party Chinese
products made in sweatshops.

Simple solution....don't buy one. Now you're happy. Move along.

Pretty much all electronic devices (or at least some of their
parts) are manufactured in Asia, so you'd have to stop using
everything and go to live in a tree shelter cooking on an open
fire.


Most of us are aware of that fact, but the specific statement was
"iPhones" are crappily made". It's pathetic why idiots go to such
lengths attempting to degrade a product they dislike when all they
need to do is not buy it. I suggest they seek counseling to get over
their insecurities.

Its not really insecuritys, it’s the same mindless stuff
like being silly enough to believe that a particular
football or baseball team is the only one that matters.

I'll disagree. A person who's adamant on criticizing a person or group
and/or the decisions they make or objects they purchase or use, are a
projection of their own issues onto someone else.

Cant see it with those into football or baseball or religion
or being one eyed about a particular brand of smartphone.

They are inferior within their own personality and character.

Hard to see that with football and baseball.

Thus, to them, belittling others justifies their action(s) in feeling
superior.

Hard to see that with football and baseball.

Its much more about tribalism that has some real
evolutionary advantages, but real downsides now too.

I can see it with any category. Believing your team is the best is just
another example.


Its an example of tribalism, not insecuritys.

One belittles the other teams or fans of the other teams because it
temporarily obscures their own inferiority.


All those into spectator sports can all be inferior.

Frankly, their favorite team could be the best in the league for that
year


They stick with their team even when
it’s the worst in the league for decades.

but it's the character of the person who requires disparaging others to
feel better about themself.


Its actually about tribalism.


I'll still disagree.


But can't actually cite the evidence to support your point of view.

Tribalism is akin to religion. Most seek religion for life's guidance.


More accurately, most do need some sort of crutch for their minds
because most find it very hard to accept that there is no purpose
to life, we evolved from pond slime and happen to be by far the
most intelligent and close to the most successful species that
evolved and that when we inevitably die, that’s all there is.

Life's guidance are for those who are obviously lost in the direction of
their life's path.


Not lost so much as uncomfortable with the idea that
there is no purpose in life, that all of us are currently
a more or less sentient collection of complex
molecules and that once we die, we just rot.

They aren't secure enough to direct themselves and require that guidance.


That clearly isnt what drives sport tribalism.
Sport tribalism must have evolved because
it had an evolutionary advantage.

One can have a favorite team, win or lose, yet refrain from disparaging
others for their choices.


But we don’t see much of that with religion.
For some reason we do see massive amounts
of disparaging others for their choices with
religion and given that something like 90%
or so do believe in some form of higher being
etc its hard to claim that all of those are insecure.

Inferior people don't.


Hard to claim that most religious people are
inferior although it is certainly true that they
do need a crutch for their 'minds'

  #18  
Old December 30th 18, 07:25 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
Rod Speed
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"123456789" wrote in message
...
Meanie Wrote in message:

A person who's adamant on criticizing a person or group
and/or the decisions they make or objects they purchase
or use, are a projection of their own issues onto someone
else. They are inferior within their own personality and
character. Thus, to them, belittling others justifies their
action(s) in feeling superior.


Doubt it is that complicated. More likely just simple old trolling...


That cant be the reason for the tribalism that pervades
so much of technology and everything else.

  #19  
Old December 30th 18, 07:43 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
Ken Blake[_5_]
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Default Hey all you Apple worshipers, have a look at this!

On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:18:20 -0700, 123456789
wrote:

On 12/30/2018 11:00 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
123456789 wrote:


the urge to respond [to trolls] is often irresistible.


Not if they are killfiled.


A killfiled troll rises from the dead in the quotes of others.



Maybe. That depends on your newsreader and how you killfile the troll.

But I agree that it's often a problem. That's the main reason I advise
people to killfile trolls. If everyone would killfile them, they would
never be quoted by others.


I always figured that someone posting a "plonk" or "you're killfiled"
was making an attempt to make the troll feel bad. As if the troll cared.
IMO it's much easier to just read the "FROM" column and NOT open posts
from the people one dislikes.



Easier? Not to me. I normally never even look at the FROM column.
Doing that is an extra step and wastes my time (yes, it's a very small
amount of time for a single post, but it adds up if you have to do it
for every post).

Besides being more trouble, you also have to remember all the trolls'
names. And doing that doesn't help with your point in your first line
quoted above--quoted troll messages in other people's posts. It's much
easier to let your killfile remember the names than trying to do it
yourself.


I avoid the vulgar and threatening ones.
The others are as I said interesting and entertaining (to me).




If you find them interesting and entertaining, that's fine. If you
read their messages, I don't care.

But if you reply to them, I do care. Doing that clutters up the
newsgroup and wastes my time reading their messages and your replies.
When sometimes frequently does that, I usually end up killfiling him
too, not because he's also a troll, but because his message have the
same effect as the trolls'. Again, if you want to read their messages,
go right ahead. But don't make me do it too.
  #20  
Old December 30th 18, 08:18 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
123456789[_2_]
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Default Hey all you Apple worshipers, have a look at this!

On 12/30/2018 12:43 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

I advise people to killfile trolls. If everyone would killfile them,
they would never be quoted by others.


Same result if everybody ignored trolls. But of course neither is ever
gonna happen...


  #21  
Old December 30th 18, 09:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
Alan Browne[_2_]
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Default Hey all you Apple worshipers, have a look at this!

On 2018-12-30 15:18, 123456789 wrote:

Same result if everybody ignored trolls. But of course neither is ever
gonna happen...


There is the case for "herd immunity": the more people ignore/KF trolls,
the less reflected attention they get.
  #22  
Old December 30th 18, 10:02 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
Ken Blake[_5_]
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Default Hey all you Apple worshipers, have a look at this!

On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:18:05 -0700, 123456789
wrote:

On 12/30/2018 12:43 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

I advise people to killfile trolls. If everyone would killfile them,
they would never be quoted by others.


Same result if everybody ignored trolls.




Yep. But killfiling is lot easier than ignoring.


But of course neither is ever
gonna happen...



Yep. But the closer we get--the more people killfile them--the better
it will be.
  #23  
Old December 30th 18, 11:46 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.test
Nomen Nescio
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Default Hey all you Apple worshipers, have a look at this!

In article
Nomen Nescio wrote:

In article
Meanie wrote:

On 12/29/2018 10:50 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message ...
On 12/29/2018 7:35 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/29/2018 3:15 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/28/2018 6:07 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2018-12-28 18:24:06 +0000, Meanie said:
On 12/28/2018 2:44 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
Your Name wrote:
On 2018-12-27 16:34:23 +0000, Nomen Nescio said:
In article
nospam wrote:
In article ,
Nomen Nescio
wrote:

Lol. Tell us again about how the G3 BGA video chips falling
off
system boards was such a fine build.

you already trolled that today.

as mentioned in my other post, that was due defective nvidia
chips
affecting all companies who used them, not anything apple did.

BS. It was faulty BGA grid soldering.

Or the iPhone 7s that catch on fire.

all devices that use a lithium ion battery can potentially
catch fire,
with iphones are among the safest and the samsung galaxy
note 7 the
worst.

Really?

November 15, 2018
iPhone X Explodes During iOS 12.1 Upgrade Sparking Apple
Investigation

A. He said "iPhones are among the safest" ... he did NOT say
that
iPhones were totally safe. If you could actually read, you would
have also understood the meaning of "all devices that use a
lithium ion battery can potentially catch fire".

iPhones are for the lazy and stupid because they can't operate
anything else.

B. If you read the reports on the conclusions as to what really
happened, you'll probably find that "exploding" iPhone in that
and many other (not all) news reports was due to the owner using
a non-certified, crappily-made, el cheapo, third-party Chinese
power adapter.

All iPhones are crappily-made, el cheapo, third-party Chinese
products made in sweatshops.

Simple solution....don't buy one. Now you're happy. Move along.

Pretty much all electronic devices (or at least some of their
parts) are manufactured in Asia, so you'd have to stop using
everything and go to live in a tree shelter cooking on an open fire.


Most of us are aware of that fact, but the specific statement was
"iPhones" are crappily made". It's pathetic why idiots go to such
lengths attempting to degrade a product they dislike when all they
need to do is not buy it. I suggest they seek counseling to get
over their insecurities.

Its not really insecuritys, it’s the same mindless stuff
like being silly enough to believe that a particular
football or baseball team is the only one that matters.

I'll disagree. A person who's adamant on criticizing a person or
group and/or the decisions they make or objects they purchase or
use, are a projection of their own issues onto someone else.

Cant see it with those into football or baseball or religion
or being one eyed about a particular brand of smartphone.

They are inferior within their own personality and character.

Hard to see that with football and baseball.

Thus, to them, belittling others justifies their action(s) in
feeling superior.

Hard to see that with football and baseball.

Its much more about tribalism that has some real
evolutionary advantages, but real downsides now too.

I can see it with any category. Believing your team is the best is
just another example.

Its an example of tribalism, not insecuritys.

One belittles the other teams or fans of the other teams because it
temporarily obscures their own inferiority.

All those into spectator sports can all be inferior.

Frankly, their favorite team could be the best in the league for that
year

They stick with their team even when
it’s the worst in the league for decades.

but it's the character of the person who requires disparaging others
to feel better about themself.

Its actually about tribalism.


I'll still disagree. Tribalism is akin to religion. Most seek religion
for life's guidance. Life's guidance are for those who are obviously
lost in the direction of their life's path. They aren't secure enough to
direct themselves and require that guidance. One can have a favorite
team, win or lose, yet refrain from disparaging others for their
choices. Inferior people don't.


Inferior people vote Democrat for example.


  #24  
Old December 30th 18, 11:48 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.test
Anonymous
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Default Hey all you Apple worshipers, have a look at this!

In article
Meanie wrote:

On 12/30/2018 11:19 AM, 123456789 wrote:
Meanie Wrote in message:

A person who's adamant on criticizing a person or group
and/or the decisions they make or objects they purchase
or use, are a projection of their own issues onto someone
else. They are inferior within their own personality and
character. Thus, to them, belittling others justifies their
action(s) in feeling superior.


Doubt it is that complicated. More likely just simple old trolling...


Very well could be, but someone who spends this much time trying to
troll, obviously lacks significance in their life. Thus, I revert to my
original conclusion.


  #25  
Old December 31st 18, 12:01 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
Meanie[_4_]
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Default Hey all you Apple worshipers, have a look at this!

On 12/30/2018 2:23 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message ...
On 12/29/2018 10:50 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/29/2018 7:35 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/29/2018 3:15 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/28/2018 6:07 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2018-12-28 18:24:06 +0000, Meanie said:
On 12/28/2018 2:44 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
Your Name wrote:
On 2018-12-27 16:34:23 +0000, Nomen Nescio said:
In article
nospam wrote:
In article ,
Nomen Nescio
wrote:

Lol. Tell us again about how the G3 BGA video chips
falling off
system boards was such a fine build.

you already trolled that today.

as mentioned in my other post, that was due defective
nvidia chips
affecting all companies who used them, not anything apple
did.

BS.Â* It was faulty BGA grid soldering.

Or the iPhone 7s that catch on fire.

all devices that use a lithium ion battery can potentially
catch fire,
with iphones are among the safest and the samsung galaxy
note 7 the
worst.

Really?

November 15, 2018
iPhone X Explodes During iOS 12.1 Upgrade Sparking Apple
Investigation

A.Â* He said "iPhones are among the safest" ... he did NOT
say that
iPhones were totally safe. If you could actually read, you
would
have also understood the meaning of "all devices that use a
lithium ion battery can potentially catch fire".

iPhones are for the lazy and stupid because they can't operate
anything else.

B.Â* If you read the reports on the conclusions as to what
really
happened, you'll probably find that "exploding" iPhone in that
and many other (not all) news reports was due to the owner
using
a non-certified, crappily-made, el cheapo, third-party Chinese
power adapter.

All iPhones are crappily-made, el cheapo, third-party Chinese
products made in sweatshops.

Simple solution....don't buy one. Now you're happy. Move along.

Pretty much all electronic devices (or at least some of their
parts) are manufactured in Asia, so you'd have to stop using
everything and go to live in a tree shelter cooking on an open
fire.


Most of us are aware of that fact, but the specific statement
was "iPhones" are crappily made". It's pathetic why idiots go to
such lengths attempting to degrade a product they dislike when
all they need to do is not buy it. I suggest they seek
counseling to get over their insecurities.

Its not really insecuritys, it’s the same mindless stuff
like being silly enough to believe that a particular
football or baseball team is the only one that matters.

I'll disagree. A person who's adamant on criticizing a person or
group and/or the decisions they make or objects they purchase or
use, are a projection of their own issues onto someone else.

Cant see it with those into football or baseball or religion
or being one eyed about a particular brand of smartphone.

They are inferior within their own personality and character.

Hard to see that with football and baseball.

Thus, to them, belittling others justifies their action(s) in
feeling superior.

Hard to see that with football and baseball.

Its much more about tribalism that has some real
evolutionary advantages, but real downsides now too.

I can see it with any category. Believing your team is the best is
just another example.

Its an example of tribalism, not insecuritys.

One belittles the other teams or fans of the other teams because it
temporarily obscures their own inferiority.

All those into spectator sports can all be inferior.

Frankly, their favorite team could be the best in the league for
that year

They stick with their team even when
it’s the worst in the league for decades.

but it's the character of the person who requires disparaging others
to feel better about themself.

Its actually about tribalism.


I'll still disagree.


But can't actually cite the evidence to support your point of view.


As did you.

Tribalism is akin to religion. Most seek religion for life's guidance.


More accurately, most do need some sort of crutch for their minds
because most find it very hard to accept that there is no purpose
to life, we evolved from pond slime and happen to be by far the
most intelligent and close to the most successful species that
evolved and that when we inevitably die, that’s all there is.

Life's guidance are for those who are obviously lost in the direction
of their life's path.


Not lost so much as uncomfortable with the idea that
there is no purpose in life, that all of us are currently
a more or less sentient collection of complex
molecules and that once we die, we just rot.

They aren't secure enough to direct themselves and require that guidance.


That clearly isnt what drives sport tribalism.
Sport tribalism must have evolved because
it had an evolutionary advantage.

One can have a favorite team, win or lose, yet refrain from
disparaging others for their choices.


But we don’t see much of that with religion.
For some reason we do see massive amounts
of disparaging others for their choices with
religion and given that something like 90%
or so do believe in some form of higher being
etc its hard to claim that all of those are insecure.


You're not paying attention if you believe that and I know you're
smarter than that. You may not see much of it within a general
population since it may consist of the same religious belief, thus, why
would they disparage each other? Let's view the differences of religious
beliefs and remember why most wars are started.

Inferior people don't.


Hard to claim that most religious people are
inferior although it is certainly true that they
do need a crutch for their 'minds'



Requiring a crutch displays a form of inferiority. Thus, if religious
people require a crutch, they have inferiority issues.
  #26  
Old December 31st 18, 12:02 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.test
Anonymous
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In article
Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:18:05 -0700, 123456789
wrote:

On 12/30/2018 12:43 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

I advise people to killfile trolls. If everyone would killfile them,
they would never be quoted by others.


Same result if everybody ignored trolls.=20




Yep. But killfiling is lot easier than ignoring.


But of course neither is ever=20
gonna happen...



Yep. But the closer we get--the more people killfile them--the better
it will be.


  #27  
Old December 31st 18, 12:52 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
Mayayana
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"Meanie" wrote

| Hard to claim that most religious people are
| inferior although it is certainly true that they
| do need a crutch for their 'minds'
|
| Requiring a crutch displays a form of inferiority. Thus, if religious
| people require a crutch, they have inferiority issues.

And you don't require a crutch? Where would you
be without your concretist religion that believes there's
an absolute, objective reality and that it just happens
to conform exactly to the image you've conjured by
amalgamating your myriad sense impressions?

Logic, after all, will tell us that the only reality we
know is that which comes through the senses. You
see a patern of light that you identify as "chair". Your
ass finds support when you lower it onto that location.
But that's actually all you can know for sure. The rest
is telling yourself stories.

The gaping hole in the logic of the "new atheists"
is that they insist on viewing "religion" as only the
most simplistic, fundamentalist dogmatism, leaning
on the crutch of their pseudo-logic, spewing
aggressive criticism at the most simple-minded
people they can find. Ironically, it ends up being a
kind of dogmatic sectarianism -- just the thing
they rail about as being the cause of wars.


  #28  
Old December 31st 18, 12:55 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
Rod Speed
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Default Hey all you Apple worshipers, have a look at this!



"Meanie" wrote in message ...
On 12/30/2018 2:23 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/29/2018 10:50 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/29/2018 7:35 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/29/2018 3:15 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Meanie" wrote in message
...
On 12/28/2018 6:07 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2018-12-28 18:24:06 +0000, Meanie said:
On 12/28/2018 2:44 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
Your Name wrote:
On 2018-12-27 16:34:23 +0000, Nomen Nescio said:
In article
nospam wrote:
In article ,
Nomen Nescio
wrote:

Lol. Tell us again about how the G3 BGA video chips falling
off
system boards was such a fine build.

you already trolled that today.

as mentioned in my other post, that was due defective nvidia
chips
affecting all companies who used them, not anything apple
did.

BS. It was faulty BGA grid soldering.

Or the iPhone 7s that catch on fire.

all devices that use a lithium ion battery can potentially
catch fire,
with iphones are among the safest and the samsung galaxy
note 7 the
worst.

Really?

November 15, 2018
iPhone X Explodes During iOS 12.1 Upgrade Sparking Apple
Investigation

A. He said "iPhones are among the safest" ... he did NOT say
that
iPhones were totally safe. If you could actually read, you
would
have also understood the meaning of "all devices that use a
lithium ion battery can potentially catch fire".

iPhones are for the lazy and stupid because they can't operate
anything else.

B. If you read the reports on the conclusions as to what
really
happened, you'll probably find that "exploding" iPhone in that
and many other (not all) news reports was due to the owner
using
a non-certified, crappily-made, el cheapo, third-party Chinese
power adapter.

All iPhones are crappily-made, el cheapo, third-party Chinese
products made in sweatshops.

Simple solution....don't buy one. Now you're happy. Move along.

Pretty much all electronic devices (or at least some of their
parts) are manufactured in Asia, so you'd have to stop using
everything and go to live in a tree shelter cooking on an open
fire.


Most of us are aware of that fact, but the specific statement was
"iPhones" are crappily made". It's pathetic why idiots go to such
lengths attempting to degrade a product they dislike when all they
need to do is not buy it. I suggest they seek counseling to get
over their insecurities.

Its not really insecuritys, it’s the same mindless stuff
like being silly enough to believe that a particular
football or baseball team is the only one that matters.

I'll disagree. A person who's adamant on criticizing a person or
group and/or the decisions they make or objects they purchase or
use, are a projection of their own issues onto someone else.

Cant see it with those into football or baseball or religion
or being one eyed about a particular brand of smartphone.

They are inferior within their own personality and character.

Hard to see that with football and baseball.

Thus, to them, belittling others justifies their action(s) in
feeling superior.

Hard to see that with football and baseball.

Its much more about tribalism that has some real
evolutionary advantages, but real downsides now too.

I can see it with any category. Believing your team is the best is
just another example.

Its an example of tribalism, not insecuritys.

One belittles the other teams or fans of the other teams because it
temporarily obscures their own inferiority.

All those into spectator sports can all be inferior.

Frankly, their favorite team could be the best in the league for that
year

They stick with their team even when
it’s the worst in the league for decades.

but it's the character of the person who requires disparaging others
to feel better about themself.

Its actually about tribalism.

I'll still disagree.


But can't actually cite the evidence to support your point of view.


As did you.


Yes I did with the numbers involved with the sport fans and religious.

Tribalism is akin to religion. Most seek religion for life's guidance.


More accurately, most do need some sort of crutch for their minds
because most find it very hard to accept that there is no purpose
to life, we evolved from pond slime and happen to be by far the
most intelligent and close to the most successful species that
evolved and that when we inevitably die, that’s all there is.

Life's guidance are for those who are obviously lost in the direction of
their life's path.


Not lost so much as uncomfortable with the idea that
there is no purpose in life, that all of us are currently
a more or less sentient collection of complex
molecules and that once we die, we just rot.

They aren't secure enough to direct themselves and require that
guidance.


That clearly isnt what drives sport tribalism.
Sport tribalism must have evolved because
it had an evolutionary advantage.

One can have a favorite team, win or lose, yet refrain from disparaging
others for their choices.


But we don’t see much of that with religion.
For some reason we do see massive amounts
of disparaging others for their choices with
religion and given that something like 90%
or so do believe in some form of higher being
etc its hard to claim that all of those are insecure.


You're not paying attention if you believe that and I know you're smarter
than that. You may not see much of it within a general population since it
may consist of the same religious belief, thus, why would they disparage
each other?


But they clearly do anyway between sects with the roman
catholics/protestants and sunni/shia, let alone the aluites etc.

Let's view the differences of religious beliefs and remember why most wars
are started.


That’s a different problem with some stupid enough
to believe that they will end up in hell if the current
king believes in the wrong sect etc.

Inferior people don't.


Hard to claim that most religious people are
inferior although it is certainly true that they
do need a crutch for their 'minds'



Requiring a crutch displays a form of inferiority.


Yes, but hard to claim that 90%
are inferior, simple arithmetic.

Thus, if religious people require a crutch, they have inferiority issues.


Much more likely that they just don’t like
the idea that we just evolved and that there
is no more purpose to our lives than there
is with a mosquito or fly or ant etc.

And that appears to be a byproduct of a
better brain given that you don’t see too
many animals or insects or plant grovelling
to some god very often.

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Mayayana wrote
Meanie wrote
Rod Speed wrote


Hard to claim that most religious people are
inferior although it is certainly true that they
do need a crutch for their 'minds'


Requiring a crutch displays a form of inferiority. Thus, if
religious people require a crutch, they have inferiority issues.


And you don't require a crutch?


Nope, happy to accept that we evolved from pond
slime and that I am no more important in the scheme
of things than a mouse, mosquito, tiger etc.

Where would you be without your concretist religion


Don’t have one of those.

that believes there's an absolute, objective reality


Don’t believe that either.

and that it just happens to conform exactly to
the image you've conjured by amalgamating
your myriad sense impressions?


Or that either on the exactly. Our explanation
of how we got to where we are now keeps
evolving as we understand things better.

Logic, after all, will tell us that the only reality we
know is that which comes through the senses.


We've moved a long way past what comes thru
the sensors now and can do quite radical stuff like
communicating far further than any sensors can manage.

You see a patern of light that you identify as "chair".
Your ass finds support when you lower it onto that
location. But that's actually all you can know for sure.


That’s wrong too.

The rest is telling yourself stories.


Its just a tad unlikely that I am telling
myself some story about some god botherer
commenting on what I have said earlier.

The gaping hole in the logic of the "new atheists"


Nothing new about my atheism, I've been
doing it since before you were born, thanks.

is that they insist on viewing "religion" as only
the most simplistic, fundamentalist dogmatism,
leaning on the crutch of their pseudo-logic,


Nothing pseudo about our logic.

spewing aggressive criticism at the most
simple-minded people they can find.


Don’t need to find those, every church and
mosque and synagogue etc has plenty of them.

Ironically, it ends up being a kind of dogmatic sectarianism


Only in your pathetic little drug crazed god botherer fantasyland.

-- just the thing they rail about as being the cause of wars.




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Old December 31st 18, 01:41 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.test
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In article
Rudy wrote:

In article
Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:52:55 -0700, 123456789 wrote:

On 12/30/2018 10:32 AM, Meanie wrote:
On 12/30/2018 11:19 AM, 123456789 wrote:
Meanie Wrote in message:

A person who's adamant on criticizing a person or group and/or
the decisions they make or objects they purchase or use, are a
projection of their own issues onto someone else. They are
inferior within their own personality and character. Thus, to
them, belittling others justifies their action(s) in feeling
superior.

Doubt it is that complicated. More likely just simple old
trolling...

Very well could be, but someone who spends this much time trying to
troll, obviously lacks significance in their life. Thus, I revert to
my original conclusion.

The easiest way to discourage trolling is of course to ignore it.



Absolutely right! That's why it's so important to killfile trolls, not
to respond to them. If they are killfiled, the temptation to respond
is gone.


How do you know you're killfiling a troll?


 




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