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Old February 19th 19, 07:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ralph Fox
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 10:33:56 -0800, OHM wrote:

I have a valid email account on a different PC.

Trying to add it to my lapotop (Win XP Pro).

I do all the entries for this GMAIL IMAP account and the Mail Account
Setup cause a new window to open Enter Credentials for ....

But on this Sing In With Google window is DEAD !



Thunderbird will open a 'Sign In With Google' window when you are setting
up OAuth2 authentication with Gmail in Thunderbird.

Q. Can you confirm you use OAuth2 authentication?


It shows my email address but NONE of the buttons or Links function.

I changes my default browser and still no functional buttons or links on
the window that opens.

What to do ?



Thunderbird uses its own built-in browser to open the 'Sign In With
Google' window.

Thunderbird does not use the default browser, so changing the default
browser will not make any difference.


The 'Sign In With Google' window will be dead when one of the following
has happened.


1. JavaScript has been disabled in Thunderbird.

If this is the case, then you need to enable JavaScript in Thunderbird.

JavaScript is normally enabled for Thunderbird's built-in browser.
JavaScript is always disabled for email in Thunderbird, whatever you set.

There is a config setting to also disable JavaScript for Thunderbird's
built-in browser. If JavaScript has been disabled for Thunderbird's
built-in browser, then the 'Sign In With Google' window will not work.

Go to "Tools Options Advanced General Config Editor"
and look for the preference setting "javascript.enabled".


2. Your browser needs a special proxy setting to connect to the Internet.

For example, when you are inside some corporate firewalls you need a
special proxy setting to connect to the outside Internet.

If this is the case, then you would need to enter the same special proxy
setting in Thunderbird.

Go to "Tools Options Advanced Network and Disk Space Connection Settings"
and compare the settings with your web browser.


3. You are not connected to the Internet.

The 'Sign In With Google' window needs a connection to the Internet.



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Ralph
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Old February 19th 19, 03:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"Ralph Fox" wrote
|
| Thunderbird will open a 'Sign In With Google' window when you are setting
| up OAuth2 authentication with Gmail in Thunderbird.
| | Q. Can you confirm you use OAuth2 authentication?
|

I'm curious why you would need OAuth2 with a desktop
or laptop. Isn't the point of that to force phone apps
to officially register as legitimately trustable? I may be
missing something, but it looks to me like the unique
aspect is that 1) the app has to ask you for permission
and 2) the app has to confirm its identity to gmail. Neither
of those steps would be relevant using TBird on Windows.


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Old February 19th 19, 06:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Mayayana
writes:
"Ralph Fox" wrote
|
| Thunderbird will open a 'Sign In With Google' window when you are setting
| up OAuth2 authentication with Gmail in Thunderbird.
| | Q. Can you confirm you use OAuth2 authentication?
|

I'm curious why you would need OAuth2 with a desktop
or laptop. Isn't the point of that to force phone apps
to officially register as legitimately trustable? I may be


Google CBA to write separate code for people using other than 'phone
app.s; be thankful they let you use normal email clients at all.

missing something, but it looks to me like the unique
aspect is that 1) the app has to ask you for permission
and 2) the app has to confirm its identity to gmail. Neither
of those steps would be relevant using TBird on Windows.

Why not?

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Old February 26th 19, 08:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ralph Fox
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 09:03:49 -0500, Mayayana wrote:

"Ralph Fox" wrote
|
| Thunderbird will open a 'Sign In With Google' window when you are setting
| up OAuth2 authentication with Gmail in Thunderbird.
| | Q. Can you confirm you use OAuth2 authentication?
|

I'm curious why you would need OAuth2 with a desktop
or laptop.


Simple. So I can turn off "Allow less secure apps" and still
access Gmail with Thunderbird.

Thunderbird has an OAuth2 option for this purpose.

Isn't the point of that to force phone apps
to officially register as legitimately trustable? I may be
missing something, but it looks to me like the unique
aspect is that 1) the app has to ask you for permission
and 2) the app has to confirm its identity to gmail. Neither
of those steps would be relevant using TBird on Windows.


No.

The unique aspect of OAuth is that
* it allows limited access to only a subset of services;
* it does not store the main account password.

Say some crim breaks into my car, steals my laptop, and manages
to extract the Gmail credentials out of Thunderbird.

(A) If I had used my main Google account password in Thunderbird,
the crim could use it to log on as me and change both my Google
password and my Google account recovery options. That would
lock me out of my Google account.

(B) When I use OAuth2 authentication, the crim would get only an OAuth2
password with access only to Gmail. The crim would not be able
to change my Google password nor my account recovery options.
I can cancel that OAuth2 password without having to update my
main Google password in umpteen programs/devices.


Google consider a program to be secure when it is not using your main
Google account password. That is it. That is all. The program can
use either OAuth2 or an "app password" instead of your mail Google
account password.


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Old February 26th 19, 03:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"Ralph Fox" wrote

| Google consider a program to be secure when it is not using your main
| Google account password. That is it. That is all. The program can
| use either OAuth2 or an "app password" instead of your mail Google
| account password.
|

Thanks for that explanation. I've never had such
corporate accounts and don't use Google, so I
hadn't imagined the scenario you describe.


 




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