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  #61  
Old March 5th 19, 11:43 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Tue, 05 Mar 2019 17:20:32 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 14:50:30 -0800, T wrote:

Hi Ken,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsIa_LKojJI

And you are now also in my kill file. Reason:
you are an ass hole. You have a nice day now.



Great news! We're in each others killfiles now. That's wonderful;
there are few people in any newsgroup who I would less like to
converse with.


Hey Ken, you've been invited to have a nice day. ;-)

LOL




LOL from me too!


At least he saw my, and your, feedback. Thanks for that.



You're welcome.

And thank you for quoting his message, with the great news, so I could
see it.

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Old March 5th 19, 11:47 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 23:22:06 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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Cheap shots like your "she" tempt me to killfile you too (-:. But you
are at other times quite helpful;



?? Not in my experience.


(To the other person who asked how does restarting fix malwa to me,
that's not what T is saying above. He's just saying they may have
difficulty restarting because of malware, which I could believe
[fortunately I've never had bad malware].)




Do you usually get good malware? VBG
  #63  
Old March 5th 19, 11:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 3/5/19 3:12 PM, Sam Hill wrote:
That last is really sad. He takes on a customer's computer, can't fix it,
then comes here to Usenet to ask how. If he receives an answer, he applies
it to the customer and doesn't share the money.


Hi Sam,

Don't be so sure of yourself. I fix things that no one
else can fix. Some times after several others have tried.
I have a reputation for it around these parts for it.

That I ask questions means does not mean I am stupid. And I
try in turn to answer questions for other people to pay back
the free help I have been given. And I post solutions (tips)
to things I have asked about here.

And fortunately, I only have to ask for help with about one
out of twenty things I have to fix. The vast majority of
things I figure out on my own.

Also, I always follow up to solutions I have been given
and give feedback when I figure things out. And thank
those that help me.

“He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not
ask remains a fool forever.”
― Mark Twain

-T




  #64  
Old March 5th 19, 11:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , T writes:
On 3/5/19 1:31 PM, T wrote:
On 3/5/19 3:42 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , T writes:

[]
When you finally figure this out, would you post back for us nosey
people?

If I remember, sure! (Even if it's something embarrassing!)

(I wrote that because I had a vaguely similar "fault" for a group of
keys in the middle of the keyboard; that was because most laptops that
don't have a numeric keypad, have a function that makes a group of keys
in the middle of the keyboard, act as the numeric pad instead of their
normal letters. I'd accidentally enabled that function. The present
problem - when it shows - is not that.)
-T

This is a long shot, but are you having power problems?* Your
lights flicker every so often?

No, but a good guess. It's a laptop, with a reasonable battery -
certainly survives the power lead falling out (which it has a tendency
to do).

Another long shot. Is your laptop getting rather warm
when this happens?

Again, good lateral thinking. I'm pretty sure it's not that though, as
I'm a bit paranoid about overheating, having (I think) killed a disc
drive that way in the past; I have an external cooler - of the side suck
variety, not the fan tray below - one that actually can give an actual
temperature reading. (It says 32 or 33 at the moment. [Speedfan says HD0
40C, Temp1 63C, Core 0 59C, Core 1 55C.]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"On the whole, I'm in favour of the state getting out of people's lives, but I
would not have a problem with voting being made compulsory. But if you did
that, you'd have to have a box for 'None of the above'."
Jeremy Paxman, quoted in RT 2015/5/2-8
  #65  
Old March 5th 19, 11:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 3/5/19 3:22 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Cheap shots like your "she" tempt me to killfile you too (-:. But you
are*at*other*times*quite*helpful;*odd.


Not odd at all. Back when I was still speaking to her,
I asked her several times how I should address her. She
refused to answer. So I figured she was a she and have
called her a she ever since. AND she has never told me
otherwise, so I figured I got it right. There is, well
was, nothing stopping her from correcting me.

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Old March 5th 19, 11:56 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 23:22:06 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:


Cheap shots like your "she" tempt me to killfile you too (-:. But you
are at other times quite helpful;



?? Not in my experience.

For example, in my keyboard funny thread, he asked if I was having power
fluctuations or overheating; though I'm pretty certain neither of those
is the problem, they were certainly reasonable suggestions IMO.

(To the other person who asked how does restarting fix malwa to me,
that's not what T is saying above. He's just saying they may have
difficulty restarting because of malware, which I could believe
[fortunately I've never had bad malware].)




Do you usually get good malware? VBG


(-: [I meant of course, seriously problematical malware. In fact, I
can't think I've _ever_ had _any_ malware, and I've been using since
Windows 3.1; but I couldn't be sure.]
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I have never liked children, even when I was one.
- Miriam Margolyes (RT 2014/11/1-7)
  #67  
Old March 6th 19, 12:01 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 3/5/19 3:22 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , T writes:



Equally, there are those who make it their life's work to stop people
using their unfavourite software, whether it can be fixed or not (-:.


Both tent to turn forums like this into useless drivel. And then
there are the political posters.


Home users that run (not use) 24/7 typically are doing so because
they want immediate access and they don't care about the energy


At this time of year in the northern hemisphere, the energy cost is
minimal - it just means the heating works a tiny bit less hard, so the
only cost is the difference between one and another form of energy.


It is whatever floats your boat. I always have to tell myself that
the P in PC stands for "personal". There is an art to fitting
things to your customers lies and not y our own.


cost.* And sometimes because they have viruses and have a bad time
getting their computers to restart and are too cheap to get them
fixed.


(To the other person who asked how does restarting fix malwa to me,
that's not what T is saying above. He's just saying they may have
difficulty restarting because of malware, which I could believe
[fortunately I've never had bad malware].)


Yes. Did I word it wrong?


Providing everything else is okay, rebooting in the middle of the
night have solved these issues.


(Assuming the "bad time" is _purely_ that it takes a long time.)


20 minutes or more. I get called when the finally can't
get it to boot at all

Would you like to know what I do to fix them?


Now you are completely free to disregard my advice as well.


[Gee, thanks (-:]

This is what I have done and this is my experience.* And I
am making a concerted effort to help folks, not to stalk
them and disparage them, as does Char.

Pot, kettle ...


Char stalks folks and makes fun of folks when they ask dumb
questions. Back when I actually saw her stuff, I never
actually saw her help anyone. It is the old dig a hole
under someone else to make yourself seem taller. And
her lack of understanding of the engineering behind the
technology takes my breath away.

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Old March 6th 19, 12:04 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 3/5/19 3:56 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
I meant of course, seriously problematical malware. In fact, I can't
think I've _ever_ had _any_ malware, and I've been using since
Windows*3.1;*but*I*couldn't*be*sure


I have a customer that love her Coupon Printer malware.
Every times I do a routine junkware scan, it gets removed.
She purposefully puts it right back. So I guess it is all
in the eye of the beholder. :'(

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Old March 6th 19, 12:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 3/5/19 3:37 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
a reboot always clears it anyway, even if I don't delete anything or
do*anything*else*specific*beforehand


Not to **** off the Tech Evangelists on this site too much more than I
already do, but that sounds a lot like "Windows being Windows".

One of the troubleshooting questions I ask is does this happen
after a period of inactivity and does it happen everywhere and
anywhere or just one particular program.

Sounds like it is a particular program that is messing with a bug
in Windows. Programmers will recognize the following term:
uninitiated variables can be buggers to chase down. Could be
you are tripping across one of those.

Okay, this is an impractical suggestion: can you run the program
on a different edition of Windows and see it it reproduces?
XP maybe? 10 is a bit buggy at the moment.

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Old March 6th 19, 12:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 3/5/19 3:14 PM, Sam Hill wrote:
On Tue, 05 Mar 2019 14:58:11 -0800, T wrote:

No idea. I am just shooting in the dark


So, just another typical day in your life, eh?


Pretty much. I once asked where the machine was that needed
fixing. They looked at me like I was a complete idiot.
I was leaning on it. And guess what, they were completely
blow away when I fixed it. I was about the 20th guy
that tried. I went from just another in the line of idiots,
only worse as I did not recognize the machine, to a
complete hero. Good times! Good Times!

I can't tell you how many times I have walked into situations
where I had to rely on my knowledge and instincts solely.
It is an absolute blast. In 24 years of doing this,
I have only been thwarted two times.

And now a word from the funniest man ever to walk the planet:

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble.
It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

--Mark Twain

:-)
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Old March 6th 19, 12:22 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , T writes:
On 3/5/19 3:37 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
a reboot always clears it anyway, even if I don't delete anything or
do*anything*else*specific*beforehand


Not to **** off the Tech Evangelists on this site too much more than I
already do, but that sounds a lot like "Windows being Windows".


Yes, I agree - but I've not heard anyone else describe similar symptoms.

One of the troubleshooting questions I ask is does this happen
after a period of inactivity and does it happen everywhere and
anywhere or just one particular program.


When it (odd keyboard behaviour) has decided to happen, it happens
across several prog.s - though some seem more sensitive than others; if
I alt-tab to Notepad+, for example, there's a chance that typing will be
normal in that (but still come back as odd when I alt-tab back).
Notepad+ is not immune, though - sometimes typing in that has the
problem.

Sounds like it is a particular program that is messing with a bug
in Windows. Programmers will recognize the following term:
uninitiated variables can be buggers to chase down. Could be
you are tripping across one of those.


Could be.

Okay, this is an impractical suggestion: can you run the program
on a different edition of Windows and see it it reproduces?
XP maybe? 10 is a bit buggy at the moment.

I used to get the problem on my XP machine too. The manifestation was
slightly different, but it was clearly the same bug.
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Old March 6th 19, 12:23 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 3/5/19 3:26 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , T writes:
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And another long shot, if you do a "user" log off (not
a reboot) and log back on, does it clear the problem?

Don't know. I _think_ my fiddling time (if I fiddle about, the fault
usually disappears) is less time than that would take. (I use
auto-logon, if that's the right term - I am the only user, so don't have
a log on screen.)


I do the same (my whole drive is hard encrypted so I don't care about
the user accounts that much.)

If you log out, it won't autolog you back on. You just have to
click enter if you have no password or re-enter the password
if you do. It is a fun troubleshooting tool. The effect is
to do a reset on your user account. It is a lot faster
than a reboot. It won't fix system issues though.

I have a batch script to set up autolog on if anyone wants it.


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Old March 6th 19, 12:29 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 3/5/19 3:50 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
No, but a good guess. It's a laptop, with a reasonable battery -
certainly survives the power lead falling out (which it has a tendency
to*do).


Laptops do come with their own built in UPS'es.

Most of the time I find the batteries dead and the
user unwilling to pay for a new one. Does your
battery still work?

Also, I am going to say something that will go over a lot of
heads (it would be interesting to see if Paul catches
it -- his knowledge is encyclopedic), UPS'es (and laptop
batteries) do not stop negative power caused by the
current / voltage phase shifting caused by inductive surges.

Any printers or power tools close by? It is a really long
shot. My vote is for an uninitialized variable in Windows.

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Old March 6th 19, 12:32 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 3/5/19 4:22 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
When it (odd keyboard behaviour) has decided to happen, it happens
across several prog.s - though some seem more sensitive than others; if
I alt-tab to Notepad+, for example, there's a chance that typing will be
normal in that (but still come back as odd when I alt-tab back).
Notepad+ is not immune, though - sometimes typing in that has the problem.


Ah Ha! That is a hardware issue. Typically it is overheating.
Place you hand over the fan vent on your laptop. If it is not
really hot, your have is slow or stopped.

And on the bright side, this might be your excuse to get a
new laptop with one of the 8 times faster NVMe drive!

:-)

I could be wrong.

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Old March 6th 19, 12:33 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 23:56:37 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 23:22:06 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:


Cheap shots like your "she" tempt me to killfile you too (-:. But you
are at other times quite helpful;



?? Not in my experience.

For example, in my keyboard funny thread, he asked if I was having power
fluctuations or overheating; though I'm pretty certain neither of those
is the problem, they were certainly reasonable suggestions IMO.




Well, if you think that's "quite helpful," OK. As far as I'm
concerned, "reasonable suggestions" and "quite helpful" are two very
different things. Since he's killfiled here, except for threads he's
quoted in, I haven't read anything he's posted in a long time. And
even when he's quoted, I have no interest in what he says, and usually
just move on the next message without reading what he posted. But I
don't remember his ever posting anything I considered "quite helpful."
Almost everything I remember his posting was simply wrong.



(To the other person who asked how does restarting fix malwa to me,
that's not what T is saying above. He's just saying they may have
difficulty restarting because of malware, which I could believe
[fortunately I've never had bad malware].)




Do you usually get good malware? VBG


(-: [I meant of course, seriously problematical malware.



I know. That's why there's a VBG on that line.

And if I may add another jocular comment, "bad malware" means "bad
badware."



In fact, I
can't think I've _ever_ had _any_ malware, and I've been using since
Windows 3.1; but I couldn't be sure.]



I've been running every version of Window (except for the NT versions
and Me) since 2.0. I can't remember ever being infected either.
 




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