Google audio translate offline?

I was trying to translate a wave audio file I have on my desktop. I
went to Google translate, but the little microphone that would pick up
the audio file as it plays, does no appear in Firefox. However, it does
appear in Chrome, so I used the translator while online to work with the
file. However, I am going to be in a situation soon where I won't have
online access. I know the Google translator can be downloaded as an
app, but I only have desktops with Win 10. So, what is a free
alternative? I need to translate Portuguese audio from a wave file to
English text in Win 10. This won't be an ongoing thing- once the
translation is complete, I may not need to do it again for a long time.

Thank you in advance.

Larz wrote:
I was trying to translate a wave audio file I have on my desktop. I
went to Google translate, but the little microphone that would pick up
the audio file as it plays, does no appear in Firefox. However, it does
appear in Chrome, so I used the translator while online to work with the
file. However, I am going to be in a situation soon where I won't have
online access. I know the Google translator can be downloaded as an
app, but I only have desktops with Win 10. So, what is a free
alternative? I need to translate Portuguese audio from a wave file to
English text in Win 10. This won't be an ongoing thing- once the
translation is complete, I may not need to do it again for a long time.

Thank you in advance.

https://www.wanderlustingk.com/trave...nslate-offline

Perhaps you could use an Android emulator on the Windows 10
computing device, but for something with real-time requirements,
this would be marginal at best (more trouble than it's worth).

Clicking the "Computer" entry gets you nothing here.
Android is likely to have the best support.

https://support.google.com/translate..._topic=7011755

This will be like a new hobby for you. In terms of weirdness,
item #10 "PrimeOS", you actually boot your x86 platform into
their OS. The OS comes from an Indian startup firm.

https://www.androidauthority.com/bes...for-pc-655308/

Paul

Larz wrote:

I was trying to translate a wave audio file I have on my desktop. I
went to Google translate, but the little microphone that would pick up
the audio file as it plays, does no appear in Firefox. However, it does
appear in Chrome, so I used the translator while online to work with the
file. However, I am going to be in a situation soon where I won't have
online access. I know the Google translator can be downloaded as an
app, but I only have desktops with Win 10. So, what is a free
alternative? I need to translate Portuguese audio from a wave file to
English text in Win 10. This won't be an ongoing thing- once the
translation is complete, I may not need to do it again for a long time.

https://support.google.com/translate...DAndroid&hl=en

Since you are asking in a Win10 newsgroup, you'll need to get the
Android app to run on Windows 10. That won't work directly, but you can
run an Android emulator on Windows and then install and run the app
inside the emulator, like using Bluestacks.

https://www.bluestacks.com/

Alternatively, you can get a VDI (Virtual Disk Image) of an Android OS
that loads as a guest OS inside a VM (Virtual Machine) that runs under
control of a VMM (Virtual Machine Manager), like VirtualBox or VMware
Player.

https://www.howtogeek.com/164570/how...in-virtualbox/

VanguardLH wrote:

snip
Alternatively, you can get a VDI (Virtual Disk Image) of an Android OS
that loads as a guest OS inside a VM (Virtual Machine) that runs under
control of a VMM (Virtual Machine Manager), like VirtualBox or VMware
Player.

https://www.howtogeek.com/164570/how...in-virtualbox/

Just out of curiosity, does an Android ARM .apk run on
an Android x86 VM ? I understand there may be an x86
version of Android kicking around. VirtualBox is a
homogeneous host, so an appliance loaded into it is
likely to be based on x86 instructions rather than
ARM instructions.

That's why this project will be such a "learning experience".

Google could easily make other versions of this stuff
if they wanted... but, they're not going to.

Paul

On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 16:16:57 -0400, Paul wrote:

That's why this project will be such a "learning experience".

Just for the record, I tested _all_ known freeware Android emulators on
Windows 10 and wrote up comprehensive tutorials one could find by looking
in the Windows 10 archives.

I had also cc'd the Android group, whose archives are easier to search, and
the freeware group (also easier to search than Windows 10) as I recall.

The one GREAT thing about the Android emulators on Windows is that a LOT of
the programs ran faster on Windows than they did on Android - but it
depends on your equipment, of course.

But Windows generally has pretty powerful motherboards compared to phones,
so the OP can run the translation even faster than on the phone.

In my many tutorials, I didn't skip a single freeware Android emulator, so,
the OP should be covered if he needs it.

http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android
http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10
http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware
etc.

Paul wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

snip
Alternatively, you can get a VDI (Virtual Disk Image) of an Android OS
that loads as a guest OS inside a VM (Virtual Machine) that runs under
control of a VMM (Virtual Machine Manager), like VirtualBox or VMware
Player.

https://www.howtogeek.com/164570/how...in-virtualbox/

Just out of curiosity, does an Android ARM .apk run on
an Android x86 VM ? I understand there may be an x86
version of Android kicking around. VirtualBox is a
homogeneous host, so an appliance loaded into it is
likely to be based on x86 instructions rather than
ARM instructions.

That's why this project will be such a "learning experience".

Google could easily make other versions of this stuff
if they wanted... but, they're not going to.

Paul

Not sure where you are going with the ARM processor. Virtual machines
emulate all hardware (except by using pass-through drivers in the guest
OS inside a VM) except the CPU versus emulators that also emulate the
CPU. VirtualBox and VMware Player are VMMs (Virtual Machine Managers),
they require a host OS, and since they don't emulate the CPU then the
guest OSes inside their VMs must run on the same CPU as the host OS.

VirtualBox says on the first page of their web site "VirtualBox is a
powerful x86 and AMD64/Intel64 virtualization product". The host OSes
on which the the VMM for VirtualBox will run are Windows, OSX, Linux,
and Solaris, and all x86/x64 OSes. I saw nothing about supporting ARM,
but then I would expect it not to. VirtualBox is a VMM, as are VMware
Player and Bluestacks. It would take an emulator to have a different
CPU for the guest OS than what the host OS gets to use.

Would ARM, still a RISC processor, even have the necessary instruction
set (microcode) to run Windows 10 on a /desktop/ (not tablet) and an
emulator or VMM atop Windows 10? Yes, Microsoft has Win10 for ARM
(https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/), but trying to get Win10
to run on that hardware platform while also running a VMM or emulator
might be pushing what that setup could do. Also, the VMM would have to
support guest OSes that run on ARM inside the VM. An emulator could
emulate any CPU, but then it doesn't need to run on an ARM platform: you
could run Windows 10 on a desktop PC and use an emulator for whatever
CPU you wanted accessible to the guest OS. I've not delved into running
an ARM emulator atop of Windows running on an x86/x64 platform, but did
find some listed at:

https://www.thefreecountry.com/emulators/arm.shtml

Since the inquiry was submitted into this Windows 10 newsgroup, and
because the OP mentioned a desktop, ARM is unlikely an issue for the OP.
The OP wants to run Android apps on his Windows 10 desktop likely on
x86/x64 hardware, not on an ARM tablet running Windows 10.

Since the Android apps are mostly written in Java (or Kotlin, the second
"official" Java), the native programming language of Android, I don't
see how the processor type comes into play when using a VM or emulator
to run an instance of the Android OS. Apps can be written in other
programming languages, but I suspect an interpretation layer is
necessary to get the app into bytecode the Android OS can understand.


Another scenario for the OP: Run the app on his phone and mirror the
phone to his PC ...

If the OP has a smartphone (likely since he mentioned using the Google
Translate app but no mention of phone, Android, or iOS), and I can speak
of using an Android smartphones, he could run the Google Translate app
on his phone and mirror the phone's screen to his PC, like with AirDroid
or Mobizen. While I found using USB Debugging Mode in the phone and the
ADB (Android Debugging Bridge) driver on the PC to give me the easiest
and fastest replication of the phone's screen on my PC, the Android
mirroring tools can also use wifi between nearby devices (PC and phone)
and even go over the Internet for remote access (but whose going to
leave their phone powered up all the time at some remote location with
its lockscreen disabled)? Even Microsoft is stepping daintily into
Android mirroring by coming out with an Android mirroring tool (to be in
an updated version of their Phone app) to add to Windows 10 in some
later update, but all theirs does is bring the Android's notifications
over to your PC (aka notification chasing). Later Microsoft plans to
add full mirroring of the Android's screen to your PC. Instead of
installing and using an emulator or VMM on his Windows 10 desktop, he
could mirror his smartphone with the app installed there to his PC.

The Google help article to which I linked to earlier mentions
downloading some translate files to allow using their Translate app to
run offline. The OP could install the Google Translate app on his
phone, download the offline translation files to his phone, and mirror
his phone to his PC (if he really needs to use a PC to view the app and
interact with it instead of directly using the app on his phone).

On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 18:32:18 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Not sure where you are going with the ARM processor.

I admit I did not understand Paul's question, but I will note that "some"
of the Windows Android emulators require VirtualBox, but most don't.

I do not know why.

I do know that all but the Microsoft Android emulators require you to
disable Hyper-V, if that matters.

And there is one ARM emulator I tested, but it was too slow to be usable:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/aW64zYeBtF0%5B1-25%5D

o Genymotion
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.mobile.android/ix9empN-mxg/07ZmH2AWAQAJ

o Andyroid
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.mobile.android/FkZu5vAswYo/wISRtpUUAQAJ

o Bluestacks
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/JBRjZ39w4Ok

o Microsoft
https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/msft-android-emulator/

o Google (comes integrated with Android Studio)
https://developer.android.com/studio/

o ARM (comes integrated with Android Studio)
https://developer.android.com/studio/

--
See also my Android Studio "Hello World" tutorials (with source code)
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/aW64zYeBtF0%5B1-25%5D

Thanks to all but, after reading your responses, it doesn't appear that
there is an "easy" way so I'm going to just have to make arrangements to
use the Google translator online somehow. I won't have access all that
much, but it may be possible for limited periods. Thanks again for all
the suggestions.

Larz wrote:

Thanks to all but, after reading your responses, it doesn't appear that
there is an "easy" way so I'm going to just have to make arrangements to
use the Google translator online somehow. I won't have access all that
much, but it may be possible for limited periods. Thanks again for all
the suggestions.

You mentioned already using the Google Translate app, so you already
have a smartphone with the app installed. You find downloading the
translation files for the app to use that app while offline not easy?

I don't use that app on my smartphone to know if the downloaded language
files provide offline translation. In my first reply, I linked to
Google's help article on how to do it.

On 9/30/19 1:50 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Larz wrote:

Thanks to all but, after reading your responses, it doesn't appear that
there is an "easy" way so I'm going to just have to make arrangements to
use the Google translator online somehow. I won't have access all that
much, but it may be possible for limited periods. Thanks again for all
the suggestions.

You mentioned already using the Google Translate app, so you already
have a smartphone with the app installed. You find downloading the
translation files for the app to use that app while offline not easy?

Sorry, but that's incorrect. I have been using Google translate online
via Chrome since the little microphone did not appear in Firefox.

I don't own Smartphones and therefore no apps of any kind. I was
thinking that there might be a way of downloading Google translate for
use offline on the PC, but apparently that is only available for Android.


I don't use that app on my smartphone to know if the downloaded language
files provide offline translation. In my first reply, I linked to
Google's help article on how to do it.

Larz wrote:
On 9/30/19 1:50 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Larz wrote:

Thanks to all but, after reading your responses, it doesn't appear that
there is an "easy" way so I'm going to just have to make arrangements to
use the Google translator online somehow. I won't have access all that
much, but it may be possible for limited periods. Thanks again for all
the suggestions.

You mentioned already using the Google Translate app, so you already
have a smartphone with the app installed. You find downloading the
translation files for the app to use that app while offline not easy?

Sorry, but that's incorrect. I have been using Google translate online
via Chrome since the little microphone did not appear in Firefox.

I don't own Smartphones and therefore no apps of any kind. I was
thinking that there might be a way of downloading Google translate for
use offline on the PC, but apparently that is only available for Android.

I did download the Microsoft emulator.

https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/v...roid-emulator/

What I discovered is, it won't run in Windows 7, but will run
in Windows 8 or Windows 10. That's because it uses Hyper-V.

I happen to have a desktop computer, where the CPU supports
SLAT/EPT (second level address translation). That is a hardware
requirement for desktop Windows to be able to run Hyper-V.

So when I downloaded the Microsoft emulator, I only have
the one computer which could possibly run it.

You'll find some of the other emulators are a little
more generous.

If you bought a laptop in 2019, chances are it would
have SLAT/EPT. But my older computers, very few
CPUs at the time had that feature.

In any case, I fired up Windows 8.1 and installed it.
It turned on the Hyper-V tick box in
Programs and Features : Windows Features automatically.
And required a reboot to reconfigure the OS setup for Hyper-V.

I selected a hardware config in the emulator, for
one of the phones listed on the first page and started it.

It took maybe a minute for the phone OS to boot.

But, to install Google Translate, I would need to
"log into my Google Account", which I don't have.

So the experiment stopped there.

Microsoft claims webcam/microphone integration works,
but that would have been my next test if I didn't
get stuck at the "Google Account" hurdle. If
I pretended to fall for that taunt, they'd
be asking for my mobile phone number, two
factor authentication, the ability to send
me SMS texts and so on. And I'm not a phone
person, and have no interest in all that rubbish,
just to run a program.

As far as setup goes, that one was pretty simple.

Google also has an emulator, and apparently the
Google one has hardware acceleration. Which means
your video card (perhaps the OpenGL or something),
helps with rendering on the Android screen - but
this is only important for gameplay.

Setting up the emulator might be the easy step,
while dealing with the phone rubbish, less so.

Paul

On 9/30/19 8:51 PM, Paul wrote:


I did download the Microsoft emulator.

https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/v...roid-emulator/

What I discovered is, it won't run in Windows 7, but will run
in Windows 8 or Windows 10. That's because it uses Hyper-V.

I happen to have a desktop computer, where the CPU supports
SLAT/EPT (second level address translation). That is a hardware
requirement for desktop Windows to be able to run Hyper-V.

So when I downloaded the Microsoft emulator, I only have
the one computer which could possibly run it.

You'll find some of the other emulators are a little
more generous.

If you bought a laptop in 2019, chances are it would
have SLAT/EPT. But my older computers, very few
CPUs at the time had that feature.

In any case, I fired up Windows 8.1 and installed it.
It turned on the Hyper-V tick box in
Programs and Features : Windows Features automatically.
And required a reboot to reconfigure the OS setup for Hyper-V.

I selected a hardware config in the emulator, for
one of the phones listed on the first page and started it.

It took maybe a minute for the phone OS to boot.

But, to install Google Translate, I would need to
"log into my Google Account", which I don't have.

So the experiment stopped there.

Microsoft claims webcam/microphone integration works,
but that would have been my next test if I didn't
get stuck at the "Google Account" hurdle. If
I pretended to fall for that taunt, they'd
be asking for my mobile phone number, two
factor authentication, the ability to send
me SMS texts and so on. And I'm not a phone
person, and have no interest in all that rubbish,
just to run a program.

As far as setup goes, that one was pretty simple.

Google also has an emulator, and apparently the
Google one has hardware acceleration. Which means
your video card (perhaps the OpenGL or something),
helps with rendering on the Android screen - but
this is only important for gameplay.

Setting up the emulator might be the easy step,
while dealing with the phone rubbish, less so.

Â*Â* Paul

I just didn't feel like going through all that for translations and we
found a way today to be able to use Google translate online. We'll just
have to make recordings first, then play the output of those back either
through the online PC or by speaker and have a mic picking up the
language so Google can translate. It will take a bit more time this
way, but still better than trying to configure my system to maybe (or
maybe not) run Google translate.

I did appreciate you and others trying to help here. It's really a
shame that some firms only produce apps and nothing else. I'm into
astronomy and there some really nice apps out there that I've read
about, but no Win equivalent so I will never get to use them. All well.

Larz wrote:

On 9/30/19 1:50 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Larz wrote:

Thanks to all but, after reading your responses, it doesn't appear that
there is an "easy" way so I'm going to just have to make arrangements to
use the Google translator online somehow. I won't have access all that
much, but it may be possible for limited periods. Thanks again for all
the suggestions.

You mentioned already using the Google Translate app, so you already
have a smartphone with the app installed. You find downloading the
translation files for the app to use that app while offline not easy?

Sorry, but that's incorrect. I have been using Google translate online
via Chrome since the little microphone did not appear in Firefox.

"I know the Google translator can be downloaded as an
app, but I only have desktops with Win 10."

I thought for you to know about the app meant you had a smartphone.

I don't own Smartphones and therefore no apps of any kind.

That is why I mentioned in my first reply about using Bluestacks to run
apps on Windows. You install it (shouldn't be hard). Inside of
Bluestacks, you get the Google Translate app. Then follow the Google
article about downloading the language files.

Aside
I've come close to using Bluestacks for myself to run Android apps on
my Windows 10 desktop PC. After not renewing my Office 365
subscription, I hunted around for /free/ local e-mail clients that
support MS Exchange. I've trialed eM Client, it's good, but I've
encountered several problems with it that I've reported about in their
forums. Plus, eM Client Free only supports 2 accounts, and I have 5
(and have had more in the past). Getting decent support for eM Client
to fix the bugs that I've found and handle more than 2 account would
cost $50 per version or $100 for lifetime license all versions. Other
choices ended up finding only payware clients or subscriptionware
clients (e.g., Mailbird @ $30/yr). I've used Thunderbird before, gave
up on it after a 6-month trial (and went back to MS Outlook, but
that's gone after not renewing Office 365), but Thunderbird doesn't
support Exchange, and the extension that does is not free (ExQuilla,
$12/yr subscriptionware). With the dearth of choices for a truly free
local Exchange client, I was thinking of going back to Office 365 (I
can get it fro $33/yr, or less); however, the MS Outlook app for
Android is free. Not anywhere as good as the local MS Outlook
program, but then none of the other e-mail clients come close, either.
I've got the MS Outlook app on my smartphone and it works well. So, I
might try using Bluestacks to bring it over to my Win10 desktop.
However, if I go that route, I'll probably trial the BlueMail app to
compare against the MS Outlook app.
/Aside

Setting up VirtualBox or VMware Player to load an Android image as a
guest OS inside a virtual machine would be more work than you care for
to get the Google Translate app to your desktop PC. However, installing
Bluestacks should be easy as would be installing the Google Translate
app inside of Bluestacks. Then download the language files for the
Google Translate app to use it while offline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVVbrj9-Fdw
In this video, the portion that showed installing Bluestacks took about
1-1/2 minutes.

Since you've never owned a smartphone, the learning curve is how to use
Android running inside of Bluestacks, like getting the app and using it.
For a few evenings, don't touch the TV when you get home after work, and
instead play with Bluestacks.

I know of no easy or even possible way to bring the entire Google
Translate site and its service's resources to your PC to use while you
are disconnected from the site and Internet (i.e., while offline). You
were asking how to bring it to your desktop PC, and the Android app run
in an Android environment (inside a VM) on your PC and downloading the
language files for the app is the closest I can think of ... other than
the screen mirroring scheme (phone to PC), but that won't work without a
smartphone, plus you already have the app on the smartphone (to then
mirror to the PC).

If you have a neighbor with a wifi cable modem for their Internet
service, you might arrange to share their wifi connection. If someone
in your family has a smartphone, you could ask if they'd be willing to
let you use their cellular data quota while using their phone as a wifi
hotspot. If you had a laptop, netbook, or tablet, you could use one of
the many public wifi hotspots. There are sites that will help find the
ones nearest to where you are currently located; however, desktop PCs
are usually semi-permanent in their location. And dial-up still exists
if the Internet outage is due to inability to pay for cable/DSL service.
I think there is still some free dial-up providers (e.g., Netzero), but
obviously you need a landline for dial-up access.

You can buy an unlocked smartphone (so it is not locked to a particular
cellular provider) and use it without any cellular service, but just use
its wifi to connect to public wifi hotspots or those at your friends' or
family's homes where they have wifi cable modems for their Internet
access. I know and have read about many smartphone users that never get
cellular service and only use wifi with their smartphone. Some who use
their smartphones only as home phones and already have a wifi cable
modem for their Internet service see no point in paying for redundant
cellular service. You can do both voice and Internet over wifi on the
phone. You can find used cheap smartphones at eBay, Craigslist, or the
Goodwill; however, the lower the price the slower the phone which could
be too slow when trying to translate on-demand, like when trying to talk
to someone right there at the time.