Confirmed: Windows 10 Setup Now Prevents Local Account Creation

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 15:01:04 -0400, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:

No, it's not. The iPhone SE sitting next to this computer does not have,
and never did have, an AppleID. It works. Just not with iCloud or any of
the other things that Apple ties to it (Books, iTunes/Music/Movies/TV,
etc.) I don't need any of that on a work phone.

Hi Panthera Tigris Altaica,

There is an extremely simple test of imaginary belief systems
o Name just one

That is, imaginary belief systems are supported by exactly 0 facts.

I don't make **** up - so let's simply ask you to prove what you said.
o Since I'm a firm believer that imaginary belief systems have no proof

As everyone knows on this ng, when nospam says anything, it's worthless
because his answers are always just guesses - hence his response was no
more credible than the result of a brain dead statistical coin toss would
be.

You have to doublecheck EVERYTHING he says - which makes whatever he says,
utterly worthless as a result of his utter lack of adult credibility.

However, I don't have the experience with you to make any claims about your
credibility - so - as with all posters I don't know much about - I will
assume your post is purposefully helpful - and purposefully correct.

Hence, I will only need to ask you the most basic adult question:
o Tell me how to do this for my iPads

The iPad in my hand, for example, is this one:
o The 2017 9.7-inch 128GB iPad with Wi-Fi is $300 at Costco
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/2kUo5789jSk/vmk_Irh8AQAJ

Since I never update the iOS diarrhea unless I'm forced ot
(Apple never sufficiently tests the iOS diarrhea in the real world),
the iOS version is ... (let me check) ...
o iOS 11.2.6 (15D100)

o And, noteworthy, Apple also REQUIRES an advertiser ID.

No, they don't. No such code is on any of my devices.

Bear in mind, on Android... (and on Windows & Linux)...
o I already have a working privacy based solution

I just want a similar privacy-based working solution for iOS!

Again, I have plenty of iOS devices where I'd love to test it out.
o Just point me to a WORKING solution that does what I do on Android
1. No need for an AppleID (e.g., to obtain apps from the iTunes App Store)
2. App IPAs can easily be shared to anyone on the planet (like APKs are)
3. No advertiser ID whatsoever (as Android is sans a Google Account).
etc.

Remember, I already have all this (and more) privacy on Android.
o If the iPad can even approach Android privacy - I'd be ecstatic.

Just tell me how to remove the Apple ID from all my iPads & still download
from the official app store (and share with anyone) - just like we can
already easily do on Android (and without an advertiser ID ever even
existing).

Without jailbreaking.

In particular no
such code is on any of the apps we have set up for use on our own
devices and sideloaded without having to access the Apple Store. We know
that there is no such code as we built the apps ourselves. Nor are there
any such codes in any apps we download from the Apple Store to load onto
our company devices.

I have plenty of iOS devices.

Just tell me how to remove the Apple ID from all my iPads & still download
anything I want from the official app store (and share it with anyone I
want, free apps of course), just like we can easily do on Android (and
without an advertiser ID ever even existing).

Without jailbreaking.

Where the Apple ID is literally embedded into EVERY APP you download
o Even free apps!

Doesn't affect those who never download anything from the Apple Store
because the device doesn't have an AppleID.

Bear in mind that you can download ANYTHING on the Google Play store
without having a Google Play account (e.g., you use a different interface
to the Google Play store, such as the spoofing available with Aurora).

Even though you just proved me right (I don't make **** up so you should
always understand that my credibility is stellar on iOS), I always say
we're all more powerful together, than we are alone.

So if you know how I can do, on iOS, what I already do, on Android
o I would LOVE to test it out.

Juist tell w do I REMOMVE the AppleID from my iPads
o And still download apps from the official iTunes App Store
o And, share those free apps with anyone I want to share them with
o All without the advertiser ID ever even existing on Android

We can and do use a
_company_ AppleID to get apps for use on company gear. If there is a
code embedded in the apps, then they have a problem as everyone will
have the same code. Which, as no such code is in any of the apps
available to the company devices, is even less of a problem.

There is an extremely simple test of imaginary belief systems
o Name just one

That is, imaginary belief systems are supported by exactly 0 facts.

On Android, you have FULL FUNCTIONALITY without a Google ID.
o Just like on Windows (up until this thread, anyway).

If you can show me how to do on iOS what I already do on Android
o I'd be ecstatic.

No AppleID
Full access to the App Store apps
Complete portability for free apps to any similar device & any owner
No advertiser id
etc.

Just name a cite explaining how to do on IOS what I already do on Android:
o Name just one.

In article , Arlen .g. Holder
wrote:

I have plenty of iOS devices.

so you claim, yet you have *no* idea how to use them to their fullest
potential.

queue next rant...

On 10/2/19 12:51 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/19 9:11 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 10/2/19 8:28 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

[snip]

Unfortunately, for the Lenovo ThinkPad, the W10 drivers are in the MS
Store, so an MS Account will likely be needed to get the drivers.

I didn't have a problem downloading drivers for mine (T480s) from
Lenovo, and I've never has a MS account.

This is a Lenovo T420, and from what I've learned so far, should have
come with discs to reinstall w7 Pro.Â* But the computer was given to the
owner without the discs.Â* The hard drive was failing, so I opted to
install W10, since W7 support is disappearing.

I'd originally planned on doing W7 as the owner is familiar with it, so
I asked in Lenovo's forums about obtaining a set of disks.Â* The disks
were not available from Lenovo.

A response in the forum is where i got the info about the drivers for
W10.Â* I have to get together with the computer owner to create an MS
account so she can provide the answers for the security questions, then
we'll see about the drivers.



Didn't need no stinkin' driver disks for my Lenovo L540 Thinkpad when I
installed Ubuntu 16.04 ;-)

LOL But do all the Fn keys perform the same functions under Ubuntu as
they did with Windows? I remember a Toshiba laptop I worked on that had
one Fn key that was supposed to turn wireless on and off. Didn't work
until I got the Toshiba Fn key drivers.

OP: This is all part of the master plan for DAAS, where "your" hardware
is relegated to a dumb terminal and MS gets a permanent revenue stream
with both your subscription AND all your user telemetry data.

"All your base are belong to us"



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On 2019-10-02 15:26, Arlen .g. Holder wrote:
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 15:01:04 -0400, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:

No, it's not. The iPhone SE sitting next to this computer does not have,
and never did have, an AppleID. It works. Just not with iCloud or any of
the other things that Apple ties to it (Books, iTunes/Music/Movies/TV,
etc.) I don't need any of that on a work phone.

Hi Panthera Tigris Altaica,

There is an extremely simple test of imaginary belief systems
o Name just one

That is, imaginary belief systems are supported by exactly 0 facts.

I don't make **** up - so let's simply ask you to prove what you said.
o Since I'm a firm believer that imaginary belief systems have no proof

As everyone knows on this ng, when nospam says anything, it's worthless
because his answers are always just guesses - hence his response was no
more credible than the result of a brain dead statistical coin toss would
be.

You have to doublecheck EVERYTHING he says - which makes whatever he says,
utterly worthless as a result of his utter lack of adult credibility.

However, I don't have the experience with you to make any claims about your
credibility - so - as with all posters I don't know much about - I will
assume your post is purposefully helpful - and purposefully correct.

Hence, I will only need to ask you the most basic adult question:
o Tell me how to do this for my iPads

The iPad in my hand, for example, is this one:
o The 2017 9.7-inch 128GB iPad with Wi-Fi is $300 at Costco
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/2kUo5789jSk/vmk_Irh8AQAJ

Since I never update the iOS diarrhea unless I'm forced ot
(Apple never sufficiently tests the iOS diarrhea in the real world),
the iOS version is ... (let me check) ...
o iOS 11.2.6 (15D100)

o And, noteworthy, Apple also REQUIRES an advertiser ID.

No, they don't. No such code is on any of my devices.

Bear in mind, on Android... (and on Windows & Linux)...
o I already have a working privacy based solution

I just want a similar privacy-based working solution for iOS!

Again, I have plenty of iOS devices where I'd love to test it out.
o Just point me to a WORKING solution that does what I do on Android
1. No need for an AppleID (e.g., to obtain apps from the iTunes App Store)
2. App IPAs can easily be shared to anyone on the planet (like APKs are)
3. No advertiser ID whatsoever (as Android is sans a Google Account).
etc.

Remember, I already have all this (and more) privacy on Android.
o If the iPad can even approach Android privacy - I'd be ecstatic.

Just tell me how to remove the Apple ID from all my iPads & still download
from the official app store (and share with anyone) - just like we can
already easily do on Android (and without an advertiser ID ever even
existing).

Without jailbreaking.

In particular no
such code is on any of the apps we have set up for use on our own
devices and sideloaded without having to access the Apple Store. We know
that there is no such code as we built the apps ourselves. Nor are there
any such codes in any apps we download from the Apple Store to load onto
our company devices.

I have plenty of iOS devices.

Just tell me how to remove the Apple ID from all my iPads & still download
anything I want from the official app store (and share it with anyone I
want, free apps of course), just like we can easily do on Android (and
without an advertiser ID ever even existing).

Without jailbreaking.

Where the Apple ID is literally embedded into EVERY APP you download
o Even free apps!

Doesn't affect those who never download anything from the Apple Store
because the device doesn't have an AppleID.

Bear in mind that you can download ANYTHING on the Google Play store
without having a Google Play account (e.g., you use a different interface
to the Google Play store, such as the spoofing available with Aurora).

Even though you just proved me right (I don't make **** up so you should
always understand that my credibility is stellar on iOS), I always say
we're all more powerful together, than we are alone.

So if you know how I can do, on iOS, what I already do, on Android
o I would LOVE to test it out.

Juist tell w do I REMOMVE the AppleID from my iPads
o And still download apps from the official iTunes App Store
o And, share those free apps with anyone I want to share them with
o All without the advertiser ID ever even existing on Android

We can and do use a
_company_ AppleID to get apps for use on company gear. If there is a
code embedded in the apps, then they have a problem as everyone will
have the same code. Which, as no such code is in any of the apps
available to the company devices, is even less of a problem.

There is an extremely simple test of imaginary belief systems
o Name just one

That is, imaginary belief systems are supported by exactly 0 facts.

You're telling me that the iPhone SE sitting next to this computer has
an AppleID when I _know_ it doesn't _as I was the one who set it up?_
Really? No need to read further, you have no clue about what you're
posting. It is _trivial_ to set up iOS devices to not use AppleIDs, and
easier yet to set up macOS devices to not use AppleIDs! I have done both
multiple times! Anyone who tries to tell me that it is not possible to
use iOS or macOS devices without an AppleID is, simply, either lying or
insane. Pick one.

On Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:20:19 -0400, nospam wrote:

the only diarrhea is your endless postings that demonstrate how little
you know about nearly everything.

And yet, you always _fail_ the simplest test of imaginary belief systems.
o Name just one

As you do, yet again, in this thread.


How are you going to set up & use iOS sans an Apple ID, nospam?

this is about windows 10, not phones.

I realize you missed the adult point, nospam, where the point was CLEARLY
that Windows, if this thread turns out to factually back up the news
article's claims, is perhaps beginning to slide down the slippery lack of
privacy slope, which mirrors Apple's sordid footsteps of REQUIRING an ID in
order to have privacy functionality.

That you missed that key adult point is normal for you nospam.
o Android does not require an ID to have privacy functionality

Full functionality includes:
o Never having a Google Account on the phone (or removing it)
o Downloading & using ANY free app APK from the official app store
o Extracting & sending that APK to any user to use anywhere in the world
o All without an ID associated with that APK (& no advertiser ID).

If you claim the same privacy functionality exists on iOS then simply
o Name just one reliable cite that shows me how to do that on my iPads

Name just one.

HINT:
o What is the factual truth about PRIVACY differences or similarities between the Android & iOS mobile phone ecosystems?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/FCKRA_3i9CY/B3bkd07xAAAJ

RESULT:
o Imaginary privacy on iOS is what Apple marketing fed you to believe.

an apple id is *not* required to use a mac, nor is a microsoft account
needed for windows 10.

not using one does limit what can be done on either platform, but
that's the tradeoff one makes.

On Android, without a Google ID, you can easily obtain any free app (oh,
say, the Firefox browser) directly from the Google Play store to use on
your phone, and, better yet, to use on any phone (kernel & API caveats
assumed), all without a Google Account and advertiser ID on your phone.

On Windows, it's similar in most ways, up until this thread anyway, in that
the absolute need for a Microsoft Account to obtain common free apps, such
as the Firefox browser, wasn't embedded into the operating system.

On iOS, this lack of privacy was ALWAYS embedded into the iOS diarrhea.

If you claim it's not embedded in the iOS diarrhea, then all you need to do
is provide one reliable tutorial that shows me how to remove the Apple ID
from my iPads in order to download common apps like, oh, say, the Firefox
browser, on my iPads, WITHOUT having an Apple ID & concomittent advertiser
ID.

As always with you proponents of completely imaginary belief systems, the
test is three words...
o Name just one

HINT: You _always_ fail that simple test of imaginary belief systems,
nospam.

ios devices can also be used without an apple id as well as android
devices without a google id, however the limitations are greater than
with a mac or windows pc.

As I said nospam - I'm not like you - I don't make **** up.
o My credibility is 100 factually stellar nospam.

On Android, without a Google account, you still have full & complete access
to all the free apps on the Google Play store, where, for example, sans any
account whatsoever, you can easily EXTRACT those apps off your phone at any
time to SEND them to almost anyone on the planet (hardware caveats) and it
will WORK just fine on their Android phone - all without an advertiser ID.

Your claim that iOS has that kind of privacy & functionality is not only
absurd, but you can never supply even a single reliable cite that backs up
your incessant claims of wholly imaginary iOS functionality.

You always fail the simplest test of imaginary belief systems, nospam
o Name just one cite that backs up your claims

again, the user can decide if the tradeoff is worth it.

Your credibility is **** nospam because you claim wholly imaginary
functionality for the iOS diarrhea.

If you, or Panthera, have a _single_ reliable cite that shows how to do, on
iOS, what we can easily do, on Android, then the adult test is very simple:
o Name just one

On 10/2/19 12:06 PM, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2019-10-02 11:09, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/19 8:52 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 10/2/19 7:35 AM, Roger Blake wrote:

[snip]

It would not surprise me if at some point having a Microsoft account
for Windows 10 becomes a requirement. (At least for the home edition.)

And likely associated with a credit card or bank account, so they can
take any money they decide to.

I suspect they will be free.Â* It would be hugely destructive for Lenovo
to now charge for the drivers to run a computer.


And this would stop the typical computer vendor... why?

Assumption... Buy "typical computer vendor", you are referring to the
manufacturer, such as Lenovo, HP, etc., and not a 3rd party shop.

If an owner brings their computer into a shop for upgrade, they are
likely to want the same functionality in the upgraded system as in the
old system. They aren't going to like paying extra to add that
functionality.


--
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Firefox 69.0.1
Thunderbird 60.9
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

On 10/2/19 11:54 AM, Arlen .g. Holder wrote:
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 10:36:54 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:

Just to be a smarta$$ LOL... Maybe you should not have bought a
computer intended to compete with the Chromebook. :-)

From my perspective, you created your own problem.

The first point is that the following "appears" to be the case:
1. Windows 10 Home (apparently) now insists on creating an account
2. Windows 10 S insists on an account before conversion to Win10 Home
3. Windows 10 Pro apparently does not (yet) insist on creating an account

But, why did you buy the damn thing in the first place?? LOL If you
were planning on wanting to use Home, why not just buy a machine with
Home on it in the first place, save the time and effort, and get on with
your life. G

The second point is that there are usually ways to ameliorate this fact
o What we should do, together, is learn what those ways are.

The third point is that the account "may" not be fully deleted
o The takeaway is for us to combine our knowledge on that open question

Does anyone have more details on WHY it takes a month to delete?
o And, whether Microsoft permanently retains your account information?



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Thunderbird 60.9
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and it's gone!"

On 10/2/19 12:12 PM, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2019-10-02 12:13, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:35:24 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake wrote:


snip
I expect Microsoft to try everything in order to get users to use
Microsoft accounts. I therefore take active measures against them.

Apple appears to do similar, but is better at letting you know you have
the option of not signing in with an Apple account.


--
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MacOS 10.14.6
Firefox 69.0.1
Thunderbird 60.9
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

In article , Arlen .g. Holder
wrote:


I realize you missed the adult point, nospam, where the point was CLEARLY
that Windows, if this thread turns out to factually back up the news
article's claims, is perhaps beginning to slide down the slippery lack of
privacy slope, which mirrors Apple's sordid footsteps of REQUIRING an ID in
order to have privacy functionality.

apple doesn't require an apple id, nor does microsoft require a windows
id.

it's not always obvious how to avoid creating or using one, but that
doesn't mean it's not possible.

as usual, you have things completely wrong.

That you missed that key adult point is normal for you nospam.
o Android does not require an ID to have privacy functionality

there is little to no 'privacy functionality' on android, especially
when you jump through hoops to not have a google id, because you now
are the outlier.

google grabs any data it can about users and analyzes it in all sorts
of ways, and you are not going to be able to outsmart them.

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 15:53:08 -0400, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:

You're telling me that the iPhone SE sitting next to this computer has
an AppleID when I _know_ it doesn't _as I was the one who set it up?_
Really? No need to read further, you have no clue about what you're
posting. It is _trivial_ to set up iOS devices to not use AppleIDs, and
easier yet to set up macOS devices to not use AppleIDs! I have done both
multiple times! Anyone who tries to tell me that it is not possible to
use iOS or macOS devices without an AppleID is, simply, either lying or
insane. Pick one.

Hi Panthera,

Rest assured I instantly understood the silly childish games you played.

My credibility on facts is stellar, Panthera.
o Nobody has ever found my facts to be materially wrong on Usenet (1)

Even after what must amount to many thousands of facts posted.

Rest assured I'm highly educated, & I worked in the Silicon Valley startups
for decades - where NOTHING you wrote do I not comprehend.
o You don't last in those environments - with your lack of comprehension.

I realize you're playing the same silly childish game nospam is playing.

The simplest test of your imaginary belief system, you failed, instantly:
o Name just one

You can change the goalposts all you want, Panthera, but the fact remains.
o You just made it up.

You can't name a _single_ reliable cite that refutes my factual claims.
o Not a single one.

That's because I don't make **** up, Panthera.
o You and nospam are simply playing your silly semantic games.

And I knew it the moment you posted, Panthera.
o I gave you a chance to back up your claims.

And you instantly failed - just like nospam always does.
o Go play your silly childish semantic games elsewhere, Panthera

Go play.

--
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materially wrong in the decades, but the fact is my belief system is not
only based on facts, but it's bolstered by facts - so if a fact changes
over time, I simply modify the belief sysetem to incorporate that fact.
It's how adult brains work.

On Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:30:15 -0400, nospam wrote:

so you claim, yet you have *no* idea how to use them to their fullest
potential.

Hi nospam,

You incessantly claim imaginary functionally for the iOS diarrhea, nospam.
o And yet, you always fail the simplest 3 word test of imaginary beliefs

You just failed the simplest test of your imaginary belief system, nospam:
o Name just one.

--
o Why do Apple Apologists constantly brazenly fabricate what turns out to
be wholly imaginary Apple functionality?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/SZfblCIRc9s/BNYMDpdXEgAJ

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 19:55:09 -0000 (UTC), Arlen .g. Holder wrote:

where the point was CLEARLY
that Windows, if this thread turns out to factually back up the news
article's claims, is perhaps beginning to slide down the slippery lack of
privacy slope, which mirrors Apple's sordid footsteps of REQUIRING an ID in
order to have privacy functionality.

Correction.... (since nospam incessantly plays his silly semantic games)...

Change fom:
the point was CLEARLY
that Windows, if this thread turns out to factually back up the news
article's claims, is perhaps beginning to slide down the slippery lack of
privacy slope, which mirrors Apple's sordid footsteps of REQUIRING an ID in
order to have privacy functionality.

Change to:
the point was CLEARLY
that Windows, if this thread turns out to factually back up the news
article's claims, is perhaps beginning to slide down the slippery lack of
privacy slope, which mirrors Apple's sordid footsteps of REQUIRING an ID in
order to have free app functionality.

Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2019-10-02 14:52, Arlen .g. Holder wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2019 14:28:58 -0400, nospam wrote:

A datapoint is that Microsoft seems to be following on Apple's lead
o Where it's an absolute requirement to have an AppleID
o And, noteworthy, Apple also REQUIRES an advertiser ID.

both false.

Hi nospam,

You apologists are always apologizing for the flaws in the iOS diarrhea.

How are you going to set up & use iOS sans an Apple ID, nospam?

I'm not nospam, but it's trivial. Merely don't enter the AppleID at
first startup.

(which, concomitantly, creates Apple's own advertiser ID)
And, how do you REMOVE your account from EVERY iOS app, nospam?

If you don't have an AppleID in the first place, then the alleged
advertiser ID also doesn't exist.

How do you download and upgrade your non-default apps?
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 15:05:05 -0400, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:

Yes, you can. Without jailbreaking. I have right in front of me an
iPhone SE which does not have an AppleID and never did. I'm sorry, but
reality trumps your paranoia.

Hi Panthera,

Adults can do things young children haven't learned how to do yet
a. Adults can comprehend basic facts
b. Adults then form logical assessments utilizing those basic facts
c. Such that adults can back up those facts & reasonable assessments.
d. With reliable reference cites (showing other reliable adults agree).

You can't do _any_ of that, Panthera.
o Your belief system is based on exactly zero facts, Panthera.

Where you failed the simplest most basic test of imaginary belief systems
o Name just one

While the main point of my original post was that Microsoft is, perhaps,
following in the slippery lack-of-privacy footsteps of Apple - where - at
least on Android (and hopefully, on Windows) - you can easily ameliorate
their attempts to separate you from your privacy.

And yet, with the iOS diarrhea - you can't.

Which, I explained, as I am wont to do...
o With facts.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, ok?
o I will simply ask you to back up your claims - with reliable cited facts.

If you can point me to a single tutorial on this planet, Panthera
o Which shows how to set up my iPad with the privacy of my Android

Then, I have three simple words for you, Panthera.
o Those three simple words are the same words I give everyone, Panthera
Who claims (what I already know to be) wholly imaginary belief systems.

Let's see if you, Panthera, won't fail this simplest of simple 3 word test.
o Just three words.

If you fail these three words, Panthera, you can't last a week in the
Silicon Valley, nor in an decent graduate school, Panthera.

Because these three words are the most basic test of imaginary beliefs.
o Name just one.

Name just one tutorial that I will follow for my iOS iPads that enables
what I already have on Android (which has been stated numerous times - so
that I can have privacy on iOS that I already have on Android, Panthera).

That privacy & functionality I want for iOS I already have on Android:
o Set up the mobile device sans a single Google/Apple identifying account;
o And _still_ download & use _any_ free IPA/APK from the official store;
* And _still_ extract & re-use those IPAs/APKs on _any_ similar device;
o Owned & registered to anyone anywhere in the world at any time;
o All without an advertiser ID &, of course, sans jailbreaking/rooting.

Bearing in mind childishly imaginary belief systems contain exactly zero
facts backing them up (e.g., Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, etc.)...

This is the simplest of the most basic tests you need to pass, Panthera.
o Does your belief system own a _single_ fact backing it up, Panthera?

If so...
o Name just one.

On Wed, 02 Oct 2019 16:08:22 -0400, nospam wrote:

there is little to no 'privacy functionality' on android

Hi nospam,

You spout exactly what Apple marketing has fed you to believe.
o And yet, the facts are clear...

o What is the factual truth about PRIVACY differences or similarities between the Android & iOS mobile phone ecosystems?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/FCKRA_3i9CY/B3bkd07xAAAJ