Windows 10 and Google's Picasa 3

Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?


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On 15/10/2019 21:47, Ken Springer wrote:
Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?


Why don't you try it instead of wasting everybody's time here with
ridiculous questions? This newsfroup might look like a sewer but people
with any common sense would refrain from posting even more crap. Do you
want to be spoon fed with everything; baby?


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On 10/15/19 1:47 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?



Hi Ken,

I have got it to work on several, but I never paid any
attention to the build number of
Windows. Keep in mind that each build number
of Windows 10 is a new operating system (no
more Windows 11, 12, 13, etc.).

So, you really just have to try it out. It
won't hurt anything if it does not work. Just
remove it.

If it does not work, Irfanview is a nice substitute,
but you need to know the file system as it does
not catalog like Picasa.

And if you are really into pain, there is always
DigiKam:

InfanView:
http://www.irfanview.com/

DigiKam:
https://www.digikam.org/download

HTH,
-T

Ken Springer wrote:
Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?



I plugged your question directly into Google and got this.

https://www.intowindows.com/download...or-windows-10/

It was released, like five versions of Windows 10 ago,
so is "quite old". Under normal circumstances, you would
say out loud "how could something like this possibly break",
but with computers we also know there are a million
inconsequential issues that could tip the stupid thing over.

Nominally, compatible, but... test and see.

It's really a matter of...

1) How many subsystems could it possibly hook ?

2) What are the odds one of those subsystems
was radically changed, breaking compatibility ?

Paul

On 10/15/19 5:23 PM, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 15/10/2019 21:47, Ken Springer wrote:
Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?


Why don't you try it instead of wasting everybody's time here with
ridiculous questions?Â* This newsfroup might look like a sewer but people
with any common sense would refrain from posting even more crap. Do you
want to be spoon fed with everything; baby?

Why don't you do everyone a favor, and just STFU?

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On 10/15/19 2:47 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?

Guess I'm surprised it will run at all.

A friend of mine had her system upgraded to W10, and she likes it. She
hasn't used it for a number of years due to the inability to really see
the display due to macular degeneration.

So the next step will be a new and considerably monitor, and cross our
fingers.


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Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/15/19 2:47 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?

Guess I'm surprised it will run at all.

A friend of mine had her system upgraded to W10, and she likes it. She
hasn't used it for a number of years due to the inability to really see
the display due to macular degeneration.

So the next step will be a new and considerably monitor, and cross our
fingers.

I take it the macular degeneration was fixed :-)

If you've suffered damage from macular, looking at a monitor
is the last of your concerns. Just getting around is a problem.

https://www.clemsoneye.com/services/...-degeneration/

The first question I'd ask, is what percentage of central vision
is functional right now.

Maybe you could get a 3840x2160 monitor and run it at 1920x1080 ?

If you were to do something like that, you'd want some output
options on her computer, so you could try various settings for
best results. (Devices like this are "HiDPI country".)

"Dell UltraSharp U3219Q 32" (Actual size 31.5") 3840x2160"

https://www.newegg.com/dell-u3219q-3...0JC-0004-00989

There are actually cheaper gamer IPS monitors, so you can go
as cheap as $280 or so for a 4K IPS monitor. IPS doesn't have
color shift, as you move your head from side to side.

There is also one 8K monitor that looks nice, but it's $3000+ .
It's fun to pretend.

The above monitor is 19" tall, my current monitor is 14" tall,
which means I'd have to remove 5" of sections from my 7.5"
tall monitor booster (it's separate from the monitor stand and
set up so my eyeballs line up with the top edge of the visible
display). When fitting someone up with a new monitor, you want
to "do the ergonomics check". I find using pieces of wood to
make a monitor booster stand, is cheaper than a $1000 Apple
solution.

Paul

On 10/15/19 11:22 PM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/15/19 2:47 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?

Guess I'm surprised it will run at all.

A friend of mine had her system upgraded to W10, and she likes it. She
hasn't used it for a number of years due to the inability to really see
the display due to macular degeneration.

So the next step will be a new and considerably monitor, and cross our
fingers.

I take it the macular degeneration was fixed :-)

You cannot fix macular degeneration. :-( But you can stabilize it.
I've had the wet type in the right eye, and the dry type in both eyes.
Cataract surgery both eyes.

The treatment for wet is a series of 3 shots of Avastin into the eye.
Interesting experience. We stopped my wet degeneration with just the
first shot, and it's never come back. I religiously take my Areds 2
vitamins dosage, and the dry has not progressed in years. I think she's
still getting shots once a month.

If you've suffered damage from macular, looking at a monitor
is the last of your concerns. Just getting around is a problem.

This depends on the seriousness of it. My friend's is so much worse
than mine.

https://www.clemsoneye.com/services/...-degeneration/

Mine is nowhere near as bad as shown on that page. Small actually. For
instance, if the text is the "right size", and I look at the word
"saved", focusing on the "sa", there's no "ved". Everything to the
right of "ved" is visible.

The first question I'd ask, is what percentage of central vision
is functional right now.

A few months ago, I experimented with her, Windows 7, and her 20"
monitor. It worked better than I expected, but the options in W10 are
so much better. Got things to the point where using it wasn't as
frustrating as they had been.

Maybe you could get a 3840x2160 monitor and run it at 1920x1080 ?

Reading my mind, are ya?! LOL

I don't plan on making that big of a jump initially. There are 2 other
16:9 resolutions in between those options. I'll just go one resolution
at a time, in order to keep as much info on the screen with the best
photo viewing I can do, experimenting with the W10 options at each step.

Taking a moment to go out on a tangent... I use this Mac Mini 95% or
more of my time. I've got W10 installed using Bootcamp. The monitor is
an Asus PA248, 24", 16:10 aspect ratio, 1920 X 1200. I would have liked
to go larger physically, but physical space limitations prevented that.

Here's the interesting part... When running MacOS 10.14 Mojave, The
next lower resolution offered is 1600 X 1000. When I run W10, the next
lower resolution 1680 X 1050. Both are valid 16:10 resolutions, but
neither OS offers both.

If you were to do something like that, you'd want some output
options on her computer, so you could try various settings for
best results. (Devices like this are "HiDPI country".)

Her current computer is a custom built W7 unit, w/ VGA output. It may
have DVI, but I don't remember, so have to look to know for sure before
monitor shopping. I want to stay away from any adapter use if possible,
while at the same time, keeping as many options for monitor input in
case we have to purchase a new computer also.

"Dell UltraSharp U3219Q 32" (Actual size 31.5") 3840x2160"

https://www.newegg.com/dell-u3219q-3...0JC-0004-00989

Definitely, way outside the available budget.

Newegg is a great place to go shopping, though.

There are actually cheaper gamer IPS monitors, so you can go
as cheap as $280 or so for a 4K IPS monitor. IPS doesn't have
color shift, as you move your head from side to side.

It's definitely going to be IPS, I'm hoping to find something in the
$300-$400 range.

There is also one 8K monitor that looks nice, but it's $3000+ .
It's fun to pretend.

Yea, what bank are we going to rob? ROFL

The above monitor is 19" tall, my current monitor is 14" tall,
which means I'd have to remove 5" of sections from my 7.5"
tall monitor booster (it's separate from the monitor stand and
set up so my eyeballs line up with the top edge of the visible
display). When fitting someone up with a new monitor, you want
to "do the ergonomics check". I find using pieces of wood to
make a monitor booster stand, is cheaper than a $1000 Apple
solution.

The computer desk her husband (now deceased) bought is a corner unit.
She'll have to find a handyman type of some sort to remove some shelves
and relocate the keyboard tray. Although, if she doesn't mind the
keyboard not being directly in front of the monitor, it may be possible
to leave the keyboard shelf where it is. It would bother me, though.


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Ken Springer wrote:

Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?

14 years after acquiring the software back in 2002, Google discontinued
support for Picasa Desktop and Web Albums back in 2016. Google focused
on their Google Photos service. See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasa#Discontinuation

The last version of Picasa was 3.9 build 141.259 released back in
February 2016. 1 month later Google discontinued support, and 3 months
later the online file service was killed.

I found a list of release notes for Picasa at:

https://sites.google.com/site/picasa.../release-notes

No mention of ever adding support for Windows 10, whatever that might
be. It's a program, not an app. I doubt it has any requirements that
are dependent on Windows 10.

The big thrust of Picasa was synchronizing your photo collection with
copies up on Google's file server. With that service killed off, Picasa
devolves into a simple organizer with some very minimal editing
features. You can organize using folders in the file system, just like
before and since and without even using Picasa, and there are much
better freeware image editors.

Ken Springer wrote:

Taking a moment to go out on a tangent... I use this Mac Mini 95% or
more of my time. I've got W10 installed using Bootcamp. The monitor is
an Asus PA248, 24", 16:10 aspect ratio, 1920 X 1200. I would have liked
to go larger physically, but physical space limitations prevented that.

Here's the interesting part... When running MacOS 10.14 Mojave, The
next lower resolution offered is 1600 X 1000. When I run W10, the next
lower resolution 1680 X 1050. Both are valid 16:10 resolutions, but
neither OS offers both.

In terms of control panels, a starting point is offering "VESA canonical"
values. So things like 640x480 and 800x600 have been on offer for a long
long time. To offer 640x470 would be "blasphemy".

The 1600x1000 adheres to a lot of rules, but it's not a blessed
VESA value.

1680x1050 "sounds" like a standard value to me, but I don't
know if I could trace its year of introduction. Or for that
matter, why it was selected. Horizontal is divisible by 8 and
vertical divisible by 2, so it passes that simple test.

Using the custom control panel (assuming one is available),
you *can* select oddball values. There'd be no problem selecting
1600x1000 if you want, using Custom. I did select Custom in my
Windows 10 (with geforce.com driver download installed), and I
set the display to a ridiculous value, and the desktop items
became smaller, but I didn't click "save" and make the change
permanent. I really should have been more careful, because
my HDMI to VGA adapter would pump that signal through, and
the monitor might not particularly like that :-) The value I
selected, would have been close to the 400MHz bandwidth limit
of a typical VGA generator. That's where DAC development stopped.

What I'm having trouble with, is getting my damn video card
into "pan" mode in Windows, so I can run a larger virtual desktop
and just view a 1440x900 chunk of it. I have that running in
Linux right now, but can't get it in Windows. I'm pretty sure one
of my other video cards allowed me to do that - perhaps it was
the AMD card. I had it doing that a few years ago, but now that
my primary machines both have NVidia, I seem to be handcuffed.

And VirtualBox in Linux, doesn't allow me to run Windows with
an extra-large monitor, so I can't cheat and get it that way
either (run Windows in a VM with Linux as host, and
set the resolution to 8K).


Her current computer is a custom built W7 unit, w/ VGA output. It may
have DVI, but I don't remember, so have to look to know for sure before
monitor shopping. I want to stay away from any adapter use if possible,
while at the same time, keeping as many options for monitor input in
case we have to purchase a new computer also.

If you're going to be looking for exotic monitors, you'll want
some additional outputs like HDMI or DisplayPort. Some
versions of those can do 4K at 60FPS progressive. If your DisplayPort
version is new enough, it can do 8K. (Monitors come in two flavors of
4K, plus a 5K, and that 8K one.)

And even higher resolutions are available, but they're based on modular
LED boxes that you connect together in arrays. There have been a few
news articles about those recently. The screen would be physically *huge*,
like custom home theater huge, the "entire side of my garage" huge,
and that's because the LEDs really aren't small enough for the approach.

OLEDs might be smaller. But they're probably not mainstream enough yet
for our desktop computers.

You could always take a look at the monitors at Best Buy, to
get some idea what you're getting into. For example, I was
walking down that aisle maybe 12 years ago, and one of the
large monitors (used about 200W of power), you could feel
infrared coming out of the panel at you. Something you
wouldn't have predicted looking at Newegg adverts :-)
I wouldn't actually enjoy sitting in front of that one,
unless it was a cold winters day and the window was open.

Paul

On 15/10/2019 21:47, Ken Springer wrote:
Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?

It does on mine.


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On 10/16/19 2:44 AM, musika wrote:
On 15/10/2019 21:47, Ken Springer wrote:
Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?

It does on mine.

Thanks.


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On 10/16/19 1:09 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:

Will Picasa 3 run under Windows 10?

14 years after acquiring the software back in 2002, Google discontinued
support for Picasa Desktop and Web Albums back in 2016. Google focused
on their Google Photos service. See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasa#Discontinuation

The last version of Picasa was 3.9 build 141.259 released back in
February 2016. 1 month later Google discontinued support, and 3 months
later the online file service was killed.

I found a list of release notes for Picasa at:

https://sites.google.com/site/picasa.../release-notes

No mention of ever adding support for Windows 10, whatever that might
be. It's a program, not an app. I doubt it has any requirements that
are dependent on Windows 10.

The big thrust of Picasa was synchronizing your photo collection with
copies up on Google's file server. With that service killed off, Picasa
devolves into a simple organizer with some very minimal editing
features. You can organize using folders in the file system, just like
before and since and without even using Picasa, and there are much
better freeware image editors.

Using the organizer function is probably all she will do. Her husband
was the computer person, and her computer knowledge is not very good.
:-( I'll do something almost everyone here thinks is simple, and she's
just amazed. I've got another friend in the same position.



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On 16/10/2019 03:45, Ken Springer wrote:

Why don't you do everyone a favor, and just STFU?


Why don't you stop posting on a public newsgroup where everyone thinks
that you are brainless old git who can't or won't know how to killfile
posts and users that are insulting and sometimes condescending and stop
asking something that you can do it yourself even if you have low IQ.
Being old is no excuse in 2019!!!!!!!!!!.






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On 10/16/19 1:19 AM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:

Taking a moment to go out on a tangent... I use this Mac Mini 95% or
more of my time. I've got W10 installed using Bootcamp. The monitor is
an Asus PA248, 24", 16:10 aspect ratio, 1920 X 1200. I would have liked
to go larger physically, but physical space limitations prevented that.

Here's the interesting part... When running MacOS 10.14 Mojave, The
next lower resolution offered is 1600 X 1000. When I run W10, the next
lower resolution 1680 X 1050. Both are valid 16:10 resolutions, but
neither OS offers both.

In terms of control panels, a starting point is offering "VESA canonical"
values. So things like 640x480 and 800x600 have been on offer for a long
long time. To offer 640x470 would be "blasphemy".

The 1600x1000 adheres to a lot of rules, but it's not a blessed
VESA value.

1680x1050 "sounds" like a standard value to me, but I don't
know if I could trace its year of introduction. Or for that
matter, why it was selected. Horizontal is divisible by 8 and
vertical divisible by 2, so it passes that simple test.

1600X1000 has no video standard name. 1680X1050 is WSXGA.

I've got a spreadsheet of 54 (I think) screen resolutions, some are
really wild. One works out to 683:384. Where that, and others, were
ever used, I've no idea. I'm guessing some early specialty use.

At the same time, I'm working with a laptop with a screen resolution of
1600X900. Teensy Tiny text on the screen. Everybody needs a magnifying
glass for this one! LOL

Using the custom control panel (assuming one is available),
you *can* select oddball values. There'd be no problem selecting
1600x1000 if you want, using Custom. I did select Custom in my
Windows 10 (with geforce.com driver download installed), and I
set the display to a ridiculous value, and the desktop items
became smaller, but I didn't click "save" and make the change
permanent. I really should have been more careful, because
my HDMI to VGA adapter would pump that signal through, and
the monitor might not particularly like that :-) The value I
selected, would have been close to the 400MHz bandwidth limit
of a typical VGA generator. That's where DAC development stopped.

My interest is in taking what's available "out of the box" with a
person's computer. Most users are not going to have any interest in the
tech end we discuss in this newsgroup. Additionally, many users I
interact with are on fixed incomes, they can't afford the extra costs of
additional equipment. For laptop owners, I'll send them to Goodwill
where they can get a larger monitor for $10-$20.

What I'm having trouble with, is getting my damn video card
into "pan" mode in Windows, so I can run a larger virtual desktop
and just view a 1440x900 chunk of it. I have that running in
Linux right now, but can't get it in Windows. I'm pretty sure one
of my other video cards allowed me to do that - perhaps it was
the AMD card. I had it doing that a few years ago, but now that
my primary machines both have NVidia, I seem to be handcuffed.

I first saw this with a Windows for Workgroups machine. After using it
for a bit, I **** canned it as not being all that viable. I got tired
of trying to concentrate on my work *and* remembering in what area of
the work I was looking at. Am I at the top, bottom, lower left, where?

And that's just how Magnifier (Windows) and Zoom (MacOS) work.

It's not a bad idea, if you have a 17" CRT for instance, but with
today's widescreen monitors? Nah, not buying it.

No sympathy for those who want to use a laptop with a small screen, and
then complain they can't read it. Get the right tool for the job.

And VirtualBox in Linux, doesn't allow me to run Windows with
an extra-large monitor, so I can't cheat and get it that way
either (run Windows in a VM with Linux as host, and
set the resolution to 8K).


Her current computer is a custom built W7 unit, w/ VGA output. It may
have DVI, but I don't remember, so have to look to know for sure before
monitor shopping. I want to stay away from any adapter use if possible,
while at the same time, keeping as many options for monitor input in
case we have to purchase a new computer also.

If you're going to be looking for exotic monitors, you'll want
some additional outputs like HDMI or DisplayPort. Some
versions of those can do 4K at 60FPS progressive. If your DisplayPort
version is new enough, it can do 8K. (Monitors come in two flavors of
4K, plus a 5K, and that 8K one.)

Exotic??? Tiger stripes, maybe! LOL

One of the primary monitor goals will be to have Display Port, DVI, and
VGA inputs. HDMI doesn't work well for monitors larger than 1920X1080.
This way, we have our bases covered for purchasing a new W10 computer,
if it's needed.

And even higher resolutions are available, but they're based on modular
LED boxes that you connect together in arrays. There have been a few
news articles about those recently. The screen would be physically *huge*,
like custom home theater huge, the "entire side of my garage" huge,
and that's because the LEDs really aren't small enough for the approach.

OLEDs might be smaller. But they're probably not mainstream enough yet
for our desktop computers.

I think 32" is the largest practical sized monitor, unless you want to
sit on the living room sofa with the monitor mounted on the wall.

You could always take a look at the monitors at Best Buy, to
get some idea what you're getting into. For example, I was
walking down that aisle maybe 12 years ago, and one of the
large monitors (used about 200W of power), you could feel
infrared coming out of the panel at you. Something you
wouldn't have predicted looking at Newegg adverts :-)
I wouldn't actually enjoy sitting in front of that one,
unless it was a cold winters day and the window was open.

A trip to Best Buy is not likely in the works for this, unless I just
happen to be in the "Big City" for some other reason. But, I do my best
to avoid that zoo.


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and it's gone!"