4 more years. I mean, 4 more crashes.

On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall.

Everything fine for 5 days until last night.

In the middle of writing something got
IRQL Not Less or Equal

Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all
night.

This morning, got
Kernel Security Check Failure

Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up
files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be
copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy
backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got
System Sevice Exception (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got
Memory Managerment (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and got
IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished.
Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour
(probably more by the time I post this.

During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10.

I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how
to get my clipboard to a file.

Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes.

Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent
thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a
bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have
warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory
in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains
shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on
start up after all. Those are in
C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\S tart
Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new.
I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and
le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom
icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.)

I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video
player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it
but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM.
That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How
could that be?
??????
??????

On 06/13/2020 09:03 AM, micky wrote:

On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may
recall.

Everything fine for 5 days until last night.

In the middle of writing something got IRQL Not Less or Equal

Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running
all night.

This morning, got Kernel Security Check Failure

Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up
files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to
be copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same
XXCopy backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got
System Sevice Exception (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and almost immediately
got Memory Managerment (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and got IRQL Not Less or
Equal, even before boot finished. Auto-Restarted and it's been fine
for an hour (probably more by the time I post this.

During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows
10.

I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out
how to get my clipboard to a file.

Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes.

Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only
recent thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If
zoom had a bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program
would have warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole
Zoom directory in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \
It contains shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess
neither runs on start up after all. Those are in
C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\S tart
Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new. I might use zoom
once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and le4t zoom
start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom icon on my
desktop, don't know how to start it.)

I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video
player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want
it but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at
5PM. That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it
then. How could that be? ?????? ??????

Seems your problems are all over the place. I recently went through that
puzzle with my old homebuilt Athlon pc, one failure after another.

I found 3 bulging caps on the motherboard. Removed the hard drive, put
it in an old Pentium 4 pc, and it's all fine again. Nothing is broken,
nothing was lost*.

*Almost. It's a dual-boot system. Linux is back, but Win98 is never
going to run again.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky
wrote:


On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall.

Everything fine for 5 days until last night.

In the middle of writing something got
IRQL Not Less or Equal

Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all
night.

This morning, got
Kernel Security Check Failure

Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up
files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be
copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy
backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got
System Sevice Exception (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got
Memory Managerment (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and got
IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished.
Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour
(probably more by the time I post this.

During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10.

I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how
to get my clipboard to a file.

https://www.dropbox.com/h?_tk=web_le...eview=BSOD.png

Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes.

Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent
thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a
bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have
warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory
in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains
shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on
start up after all. Those are in
C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\ Start
Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new.
I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and
le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom
icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.)

I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video
player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it
but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM.
That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How
could that be?
??????
??????

micky wrote:
On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall.

Everything fine for 5 days until last night.

In the middle of writing something got
IRQL Not Less or Equal

Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all
night.

This morning, got
Kernel Security Check Failure

Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up
files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be
copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy
backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got
System Sevice Exception (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got
Memory Managerment (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and got
IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished.
Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour
(probably more by the time I post this.

During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10.

I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how
to get my clipboard to a file.

Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes.

Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent
thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a
bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have
warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory
in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains
shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on
start up after all. Those are in
C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\S tart
Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new.
I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and
le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom
icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.)

I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video
player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it
but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM.
That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How
could that be?
??????
??????

When you get a variety of errors, try a memory test.

http://www.memtest.org # downloads are 50% down the web page

You could also take a spare hard drive, install Windows 10
on it, and run for a few days with that setup. And see if
it's still throwing errors.

A driver error remains a possibility, but you'd think the errors
would have a more consistent pattern if that was the case.
Sometimes, if you use a DriverVerifier, just turning one
of those on, stops the crashes. Which isn't desirable either,
as it implies "forensics are useless" and you'll never get a
real answer :-(

Paul

On 6/13/20 1:10 PM, this is what micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky
wrote:


On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall.

Everything fine for 5 days until last night.

In the middle of writing something got
IRQL Not Less or Equal

Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all
night.

This morning, got
Kernel Security Check Failure

Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up
files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be
copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy
backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got
System Sevice Exception (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got
Memory Managerment (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and got
IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished.
Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour
(probably more by the time I post this.

During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10.

I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how
to get my clipboard to a file.

https://www.dropbox.com/h?_tk=web_le...eview=BSOD.png

Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes.

Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent
thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a
bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have
warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory
in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains
shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on
start up after all. Those are in
C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\S tart
Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new.
I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and
le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom
icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.)

I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video
player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it
but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM.
That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How
could that be?
??????
??????

No good. You have to log in to see your pic. Put it on a public site.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 14:03:47 -0400, Big Al
wrote:

On 6/13/20 1:10 PM, this is what micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky
wrote:


On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall.

Everything fine for 5 days until last night.

In the middle of writing something got
IRQL Not Less or Equal

Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all
night.

This morning, got
Kernel Security Check Failure

Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up
files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be
copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy
backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got
System Sevice Exception (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got
Memory Managerment (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and got
IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished.
Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour
(probably more by the time I post this.

During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10.

I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how
to get my clipboard to a file.

Skip this:
https://www.dropbox.com/h?_tk=web_le...eview=BSOD.png

This instead:

https://imgur.com/gallery/fbCSxuq

The top line is pretty much like the 4th line except parameter one is
different and the offset is a little different.

I guess I never understood what dropbox is for. :-(


Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes.

Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent
thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a
bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have
warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory
in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains
shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on
start up after all. Those are in
C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\S tart
Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new.
I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and
le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom
icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.)

I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video
player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it
but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM.
That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How
could that be?
??????
??????

No good. You have to log in to see your pic. Put it on a public site.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:50:52 -0400, Paul
wrote:



When you get a variety of errors, try a memory test.

http://www.memtest.org # downloads are 50% down the web page

I hae a little flashdrive with this on it.

You could also take a spare hard drive, install Windows 10
on it, and run for a few days with that setup. And see if
it's still throwing errors.

A driver error remains a possibility, but you'd think the errors
would have a more consistent pattern if that was the case.
Sometimes, if you use a DriverVerifier, just turning one

I read a little about DriverVerifier. I don't know why I never heard of
it before if it's been around since win2000.

But it looks like it causes as many problems as it solves.

Anyhow, it's been working for 11 hours now with no problems. We shall
see.


of those on, stops the crashes. Which isn't desirable either,
as it implies "forensics are useless" and you'll never get a
real answer :-(

Paul

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 11:12:56 -0600, KenW wrote:

You didn't tell us what version of Win 10 you are using.
I always change auto restart to Control Panel Advanced Startup and
RecoverySettings and uncheck Auto Restart so I can see any errors.

You should know that after these years you have been here

KenW

He probably knows to look in Control Panel - System - Advanced
System Settings - Startup and Recovery - Settings...

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:13:15 -0600, KenW
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:47:22 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 11:12:56 -0600, KenW
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky
wrote:


On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall.

Everything fine for 5 days until last night.

In the middle of writing something got
IRQL Not Less or Equal

Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all
night.

This morning, got
Kernel Security Check Failure

Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up
files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be
copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy
backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got
System Sevice Exception (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got
Memory Managerment (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and got
IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished.
Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour
(probably more by the time I post this.

During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10.

I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how
to get my clipboard to a file.

Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes.

Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent
thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a
bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have
warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory
in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains
shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on
start up after all. Those are in
C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windo ws\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new.
I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and
le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom
icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.)

I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video
player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it
but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM.
That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How
could that be?
??????
??????

You didn't tell us what version of Win 10 you are using.
I always change auto restart to Control Panel Advanced Startup and
RecoverySettings and uncheck Auto Restart so I can see any errors.

You should know that after these years you have been here

He mentioned that he's using Nirsoft's BlueScreenView, which can regenerate
that blue screen on demand.

Like you, I disable auto restart, but that's only because I want to see
that there was a crash. I know I can always go back and see the blue screen
and its contents whenever I want.

Blue Screen View looks for a folder of crashes unless they changed it.
Win 10 just writes a file.

KenW

I'm not sure what your last line means but surely Nir has updated his
program to work for win10.

I finally posted on imgur a copy of the results.

https://imgur.com/gallery/fbCSxuq

I should have unhighlighted the top line but it is pretty much like the
4th line except parameter one is different and the offset is a little
different.

There is one line for each of my crashes except the one last week that
has 3 lines.

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 08:52:21 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:13:15 -0600, KenW
wrote:

Blue Screen View looks for a folder of crashes unless they changed it.
Win 10 just writes a file.

KenW

I'm not sure what your last line means but surely Nir has updated his
program to work for win10.

BlueScreenView works on Win10, but you need to configure Win10 to work with
BlueScreenView.

Like Mechanic said, look in Control Panel - System - Advanced
System Settings - Startup and Recovery - Settings...

I believe the default debugging option might be Kernel Memory Dump. Nir
suggests changing it to Small Memory Dump.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 10:29:23 -0500, Char
Jackson wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 08:52:21 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:13:15 -0600, KenW
wrote:

Blue Screen View looks for a folder of crashes unless they changed it.
Win 10 just writes a file.

KenW

I'm not sure what your last line means but surely Nir has updated his
program to work for win10.

BlueScreenView works on Win10, but you need to configure Win10 to work with
BlueScreenView.

Like Mechanic said, look in Control Panel - System - Advanced
System Settings - Startup and Recovery - Settings...

I believe the default debugging option might be Kernel Memory Dump. Nir
suggests changing it to Small Memory Dump.

I switched it to small memory dump

If I had doen that earlier would different information have shown up in
BlueScreenView. It seems like what is there now makes sense.

If there is another crash, I'll see if the results look difdferent.

AT any rate, I was on the phone during the crash and the other party
wondered what the count-down noise was. I suppose it will take less
time for a small dump than a kernel dump.

5 more crashes or freezes last night or this morning and yet now it's
been running well for over an hour.

Whether or not this can be fixed by me, I'd still like to understand
what sort of thing causes this to happen.


One time on restart, the only words on the black screen were "Preparing
Automatic Repair" but it stayed like that for a long time until I
restarted. I figured if it needed Repair and it didn't run there was
no chance it would work better, but a couple restarts later and it's
working fine, at last for now. What is "Preparing Automatic Repair"?


I used Speccy and one core was 175^ and the number was colored tan.
The other core was 177^ and colored red, but
a) In the past the computer ran fine with the temp just in the red
zone, b) the temp goes down occaionsally.
One time I heard the fan speed up for a minute.
So is this heat and should I vacuum the insides? I tried to clean
once before and it was so compact it was hard to do, but it didn't seem
that dirty either.



In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky
wrote:


On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall.

Everything fine for 5 days until last night.

In the middle of writing something got
IRQL Not Less or Equal

Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all
night.

This morning, got
Kernel Security Check Failure

Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up
files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be
copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy
backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got
System Sevice Exception (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got
Memory Managerment (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and got
IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished.
Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour
(probably more by the time I post this.

During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10.

I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how
to get my clipboard to a file.

Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes.

Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent
thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a
bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have
warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory
in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains
shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on
start up after all. Those are in
C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\ Start
Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new.
I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and
le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom
icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.)

I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video
player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it
but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM.
That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How
could that be?
??????
??????

micky wrote:
5 more crashes or freezes last night or this morning and yet now it's
been running well for over an hour.

Whether or not this can be fixed by me, I'd still like to understand
what sort of thing causes this to happen.


One time on restart, the only words on the black screen were "Preparing
Automatic Repair" but it stayed like that for a long time until I
restarted. I figured if it needed Repair and it didn't run there was
no chance it would work better, but a couple restarts later and it's
working fine, at last for now. What is "Preparing Automatic Repair"?


I used Speccy and one core was 175^ and the number was colored tan.
The other core was 177^ and colored red, but
a) In the past the computer ran fine with the temp just in the red
zone, b) the temp goes down occaionsally.
One time I heard the fan speed up for a minute.
So is this heat and should I vacuum the insides? I tried to clean
once before and it was so compact it was hard to do, but it didn't seem
that dirty either.


Almico Speedfan can give details on temps.

http://almico.com/sfdownload.php

http://almico.com/speedfan452.exe

Here's my Speedfan chart.

https://i.postimg.cc/VkGHM3h6/speedfan-chart.gif

The Speedfan graph is hard to read.

I inverted the pane colors here with an image editor,
but that really does not help all that much.

I don't know how much Windows 10 "likes" programs like
this. The Speedfan author developed a signed driver
to replace "giveio.dll" which had been used previously
to give access to hardware buses, and I presume that
newer method still works with Windows 10...

In the example, my GPU (video card) is 50C, which is
warmer than it used to be, but it's not hot enough
to be panicking. The CPU is 43C, which is not bad.

Paul

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:03:05 -0600, KenW
wrote:



In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky
wrote:


On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall.

Everything fine for 5 days until last night.

In the middle of writing something got
IRQL Not Less or Equal

Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all
night.

This morning, got
Kernel Security Check Failure

Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up
files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be
copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy
backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got
System Sevice Exception (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got
Memory Managerment (BSOD)
Auto-Restarted and got
IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished.
Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour
(probably more by the time I post this.

During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10.

I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how
to get my clipboard to a file.

Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes.

Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent
thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a
bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have
warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory
in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains
shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on
start up after all. Those are in
C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new.
I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and
le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom
icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.)

I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video
player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it
but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM.
That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How
could that be?
??????
??????

Rearranged by me, shouldn't have topposted.
On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:50:40 -0400, micky
wrote:

5 more crashes or freezes last night or this morning and yet now it's
been running well for over an hour.

Whether or not this can be fixed by me, I'd still like to understand
what sort of thing causes this to happen.


One time on restart, the only words on the black screen were "Preparing
Automatic Repair" but it stayed like that for a long time until I
restarted. I figured if it needed Repair and it didn't run there was
no chance it would work better, but a couple restarts later and it's
working fine, at last for now. What is "Preparing Automatic Repair"?


I used Speccy and one core was 175^ and the number was colored tan.
The other core was 177^ and colored red, but
a) In the past the computer ran fine with the temp just in the red
zone, b) the temp goes down occaionsally.
One time I heard the fan speed up for a minute.
So is this heat and should I vacuum the insides? I tried to clean
once before and it was so compact it was hard to do, but it didn't seem
that dirty either.



Does the puter use a video card ? In one old puter I had, the fan on
the video card was really full of dust which caused crashes. I change
to built in Intel video, didn't want to spend more money on old puter.

I don't know for sure, but you've convinced me I should look inside the
PC for dust, or maybe a mouse. it will take a day or two before I can
report back.


KenW