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Any way to copy w10 jpgs over USB to iphone8?
just thought to ask.
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Any way to copy w10 jpgs over USB to iphone8?
just thought to ask.
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They mention iTunes.

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guid...phf2d851b9/ios

"In iTunes on your Windows PC, click the iPhone button
near the top left of the iTunes window.

Click File Sharing, select an app in the list, then do
one of the following:

Transfer a file from your computer to your iPhone:

Click Add, select the file you want to transfer, then click Add."

The Windows iTunes is 200MB or so.

https://secure-appldnld.apple.com/it...TunesSetup.exe

If you use MTP, the iPhone will probably expose its DCIM
camera folder, and might not show much more than that.

Phones sometimes need a "trust" setting with respect to the
connected computer over USB, before transfer is possible.
Maybe iTunes works this remotely, not sure.

Paul

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Any way to copy w10 jpgs over USB to iphone8?

numerous ways, including itunes or any of a wide variety of apps.

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Any way to copy w10 jpgs over USB to iphone8?
just thought to ask.
xxxxx


Yes, just use your charger chord to connect via USB. Copy/paste. ****
iTunes.

On 18/06/2020 18:27, wrote:
Any way to copy w10 jpgs over USB to iphone8?
just thought to ask.
xxxxx

People normally hire technicians for such work.Â* Please find a local
technician to do it for you.Â* It's quite simple if you think about it!

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On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:27:25 -0400, wrote:

Any way to copy w10 jpgs over USB to iphone8?
just thought to ask.

You have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without it.

I have lots of iPads & Android phones...
o Where I copy anything I want to anywhere I want anytime I want
o Whether that's iOS or Android or Windows or Linux (or all at once)
o Read/Write... I treat the iOS device as a USB stick for this purpose

Which is why I call iTunes an abomination
o Because you have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without it.

In summary:

1. You get the most power simply by dual booting to Linux (with Windows)...
o *Using iOS mobile phone or iPad as a read/write USB device*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/aaBnSphtefI

2. If you're a masochist, feel free to use the iTunes abomination...
o *Is there any functionality iTunes does, that can't be done, better, WITHOUT iTunes?*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/F-gWC05h1xQ

3. Which, as usual for Apple, Apple has _never_ tested sufficiently...
o *A zero-day vulnerability in iCloud and iTunes on Windows PCs*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/hftPQAEZr_g

See also:
o *Freeware alternative to iTunes that doesn't delete all your songs constantly*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/VxKFg4EB6wE
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(DoubleHint: Apple lovers believe what MARKETING feeds them to believe.)

On 2020-06-18 16:42, Freddie Freeloader wrote:
wrote:
Any way to copy w10 jpgs over USB to iphone8?
just thought to ask.
xxxxx


Yes, just use your charger chord to connect via USB. Copy/paste. ****
iTunes.

I have my iPhone SE, running iOS 13.5.1, connected to this laptop,
running Win10 2004. The iPhone does not show up as a volume in File
Explorer. The iPhone does not show up in Disk Management. The iPhone
does show in iTunes and is reachable using iCloud. Hmm.

I have now disconnected my iPhone SE and replaced it with my iPhone 6,
running iOS 12.4.something. The iPhone 6 also does not show up in File
Explorer or Disk Management and again does show up in iTunes and is
again reachable using iCloud. Hmmm.

Maybe it's the cable... try a different cable. Same results. Hmmm.

Perhaps there's a problem with the port. Try a different port. Same
results. Hmmm.

Perhaps I'm doing it wrong. Pray elaborate.

Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2020-06-18 16:42, Freddie Freeloader wrote:
wrote:
Any way to copy w10 jpgs over USB to iphone8?
just thought to ask.
xxxxx


Yes, just use your charger chord to connect via USB. Copy/paste. ****
iTunes.

I have my iPhone SE, running iOS 13.5.1, connected to this laptop,
running Win10 2004. The iPhone does not show up as a volume in File
Explorer. The iPhone does not show up in Disk Management. The iPhone
does show in iTunes and is reachable using iCloud. Hmm.

I have now disconnected my iPhone SE and replaced it with my iPhone 6,
running iOS 12.4.something. The iPhone 6 also does not show up in File
Explorer or Disk Management and again does show up in iTunes and is
again reachable using iCloud. Hmmm.

Maybe it's the cable... try a different cable. Same results. Hmmm.

Perhaps there's a problem with the port. Try a different port. Same
results. Hmmm.

Perhaps I'm doing it wrong. Pray elaborate.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202778

"Choose whether [iPhone is] to trust a computer"

If you downloaded iTunes for Windows from the
Microsoft Store, make sure that iTunes Mobile Device Helper
is enabled as a startup item."

It looks like the Trust consists of two parts.

1) The computer uses "PNP" to figure out what protocol(s)
the iPhone is using. This is... mostly useless.

2) At some point, the iPhone end has some sort of protocol
so the Windows end can tell it exactly what computer
this is. Perhaps the Windows SID is sufficiently unique
to identify the computer. (The SID is unique and random,
except in cases where you might have cloned it or something.)

3) Without some sort of messaging from the computer end,
the iPhone knows it has to trust someone, but who exactly ?
Perhaps this would be an issue on a Linux setup, as an example.

4) The "Trust" button on the iPhone can only work, once it has
a machine ID. Then the next time you plug in the iPhone, it's
"seen" the trusted machine before.

And Linux does have a library for this, which means
the method/protocol is known in the FOSS community.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1203...bimobiledevice

Paul

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 21:14:05 -0400, Paul wrote:

And Linux does have a library for this, which means
the method/protocol is known in the FOSS community.

Hi Paul,
Ubuntu 1804 came with _everything_ needed, as I already explained in the
tutorials I linked to; so you don't need to "install" anything extra.

Just the operating system.

Summarizing:
a. Install Ubuntu as a dual boot to Windows
b. Boot to Ubuntu & plug in _any_ iOS device on the planet
c. Slide files both ways, read/write, to/from the iOS device

Notice that you can also plug in an Android device, or a USB drive, or
another iOS device, and _simultaneously_ copy files to/from all these
operating systems, with only a single PC!
o Linux
o Windows
o iOS
o Android
o Any USB drive
etc.

To anyone who says they do it, just ask them the one trick you need to know
to _write_ to the iOS filesystem. Others (like Diesel for example), "claim"
they know how, but if they can't answer _that_ simple question, they are,
like nospam always is, just claiming functionality they simply made up.

See the tutorials I already posted for details.
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Note that with iTunes, you have _less_ functionality, then without iTunes

On 2020-06-18 21:14, Paul wrote:
Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2020-06-18 16:42, Freddie Freeloader wrote:
wrote:
Any way to copy w10 jpgs over USB to iphone8?
just thought to ask.
xxxxx


Yes, just use your charger chord to connect via USB. Copy/paste. ****
iTunes.

I have my iPhone SE, running iOS 13.5.1, connected to this laptop,
running Win10 2004. The iPhone does not show up as a volume in File
Explorer. The iPhone does not show up in Disk Management. The iPhone
does show in iTunes and is reachable using iCloud. Hmm.

I have now disconnected my iPhone SE and replaced it with my iPhone 6,
running iOS 12.4.something. The iPhone 6 also does not show up in File
Explorer or Disk Management and again does show up in iTunes and is
again reachable using iCloud. Hmmm.

Maybe it's the cable... try a different cable. Same results. Hmmm.

Perhaps there's a problem with the port. Try a different port. Same
results. Hmmm.

Perhaps I'm doing it wrong. Pray elaborate.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202778

Â*Â* "Choose whether [iPhone is] to trust a computer"

Â*Â* If you downloaded iTunes for Windows from the
Â*Â* Microsoft Store, make sure that iTunes Mobile Device Helper
Â*Â* is enabled as a startup item."

I set the phone to trust the computer. Nothing showed in File Explorer
or Disk Management.


It looks like the Trust consists of two parts.

1) The computer uses "PNP" to figure out what protocol(s)
Â*Â* the iPhone is using. This is... mostly useless.

iTunes sees it.


2) At some point, the iPhone end has some sort of protocol
Â*Â* so the Windows end can tell it exactly what computer
Â*Â* this is. Perhaps the Windows SID is sufficiently unique
Â*Â* to identify the computer. (The SID is unique and random,
Â*Â* except in cases where you might have cloned it or something.)

3) Without some sort of messaging from the computer end,
Â*Â* the iPhone knows it has to trust someone, but who exactly ?
Â*Â* Perhaps this would be an issue on a Linux setup, as an example.

4) The "Trust" button on the iPhone can only work, once it has
Â*Â* a machine ID. Then the next time you plug in the iPhone, it's
Â*Â* "seen" the trusted machine before.

You have to enter the passcode on the phone to get it to trust the
computer. If you plug it into a Mac, the phone shows up in the Finder at
least as of Catalina, once it trusts the computer. If you plug it into a
Windows system, the phone does not show in File Explorer. Unless I'm
doing something wrong.


And Linux does have a library for this, which means
the method/protocol is known in the FOSS community.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1203...bimobiledevice

Â* Paul

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wrote:

It looks like the Trust consists of two parts.

nope.

stop pretending to know how itunes works, because it's clear that you
haven't a clue.

1) The computer uses "PNP" to figure out what protocol(s)
the iPhone is using. This is... mostly useless.

it does not.

2) At some point, the iPhone end has some sort of protocol
so the Windows end can tell it exactly what computer
this is. Perhaps the Windows SID is sufficiently unique
to identify the computer. (The SID is unique and random,
except in cases where you might have cloned it or something.)

it doesn't do that either.

3) Without some sort of messaging from the computer end,
the iPhone knows it has to trust someone, but who exactly ?
Perhaps this would be an issue on a Linux setup, as an example.

vague meaningless statement.

obviously 'some sort of messaging' is going on between the two devices,
as it would with *any* connected device.

4) The "Trust" button on the iPhone can only work, once it has
a machine ID. Then the next time you plug in the iPhone, it's
"seen" the trusted machine before.

not quite. there's a *lot* more to it than that.

And Linux does have a library for this, which means
the method/protocol is known in the FOSS community.

they haven't reverse engineered everything, and what they did do
doesn't work very well.

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wrote:


You have to enter the passcode on the phone to get it to trust the
computer. If you plug it into a Mac, the phone shows up in the Finder at
least as of Catalina, once it trusts the computer.

that's only because itunes no longer exists in catalina, having been
split up, with syncing in finder and content in their respective apps.

If you plug it into a
Windows system, the phone does not show in File Explorer. Unless I'm
doing something wrong.

it should show up as a standard digital camera on windows. oddly, it
does not do that on macs.

nospam wrote:
In article , Panthera Tigris Altaica
wrote:

You have to enter the passcode on the phone to get it to trust the
computer. If you plug it into a Mac, the phone shows up in the Finder at
least as of Catalina, once it trusts the computer.

that's only because itunes no longer exists in catalina, having been
split up, with syncing in finder and content in their respective apps.

If you plug it into a
Windows system, the phone does not show in File Explorer. Unless I'm
doing something wrong.

it should show up as a standard digital camera on windows. oddly, it
does not do that on macs.

And the only way that makes sense in that case, is "DCIM folder over MTP".
The article here, the author thinks it's the older PTP instead
(picture transfer protocol).

https://reincubate.com/support/how-t...-iphone-files/

"In the case of mounting an iPhone as a drive, FUSE would
communicate with the iPhone using another protocol:
SSH, AFC/AFC2, PTP or WebDAV."

But then, without a FUSE file system installed, it should have
used native PTP.

Paul

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wrote:

If you plug it into a
Windows system, the phone does not show in File Explorer. Unless I'm
doing something wrong.

it should show up as a standard digital camera on windows. oddly, it
does not do that on macs.

And the only way that makes sense in that case, is "DCIM folder over MTP".
The article here, the author thinks it's the older PTP instead
(picture transfer protocol).

https://reincubate.com/support/how-t...-iphone-files/

"In the case of mounting an iPhone as a drive, FUSE would
communicate with the iPhone using another protocol:
SSH, AFC/AFC2, PTP or WebDAV."

fuse is not needed and that's a scamware site.

seriously, stop guessing at how it works.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 22:04:28 -0400, nospam wrote:

You have to enter the passcode on the phone to get it to trust the
computer. If you plug it into a Mac, the phone shows up in the Finder at
least as of Catalina, once it trusts the computer.

that's only because itunes no longer exists in catalina, having been
split up, with syncing in finder and content in their respective apps.

Hi nospam,

While many have proved iTunes is not only bloatware, and it's not only an
abomination, and that you have more functionality _without_ iTunes, than
with it, even Apple has killed off iTunes on the Mac.

*What does the fact Apple killed off iTunes for the Mac tell us, nospam?*

o *Apple is killing off iTunes, reports say*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/nfALvSmzsGY

For details on why iTunes is called bloatware, see:
o *How to Install iTunes without Bloatware*
https://geekermag.com/install-itunes-without-bloatware-windows-10/

For details on why iTunes is called an abomination, see:
o *The abomination that is iTunes on Windows*
https://www.troyhunt.com/10-graphic-examples-of-abomination-that/

For details on proving iTunes bloatware was untested for years, see:
o *A zero-day vulnerability in iCloud and iTunes on Windows PCs*
*allowed hackers to install ransomware undetected for years*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/hftPQAEZr_g/wE5JBam9DQAJ

If you plug it into a
Windows system, the phone does not show in File Explorer. Unless I'm
doing something wrong.

it should show up as a standard digital camera on windows. oddly, it
does not do that on macs.

This is the trust query I've gotten in the past (from my tutorials)
o http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios010.jpg
Note you will only see that query once on Linux.

This is the allow query I've gotten in the past each time I connect:
o http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios020.jpg
Note you will get this allow query every time you connect to Linux.

This is how the iOS device showed up in the past after accepting those:
o http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios030.jpg
Note that there are two icons: "camera" & "Documents"

The Documents space is extremely useful, e.g., to copy movies to VLC:
o http://s1.bild.me/bilder/110417/8918650usb01.jpg
o http://s1.bild.me/bilder/110417/8157466usb02.jpg
o http://s1.bild.me/bilder/110417/2107706usb03.jpg

Note there is no need to install _anything_ other than the OS itself.
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