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August 18th 04, 12:49 PM
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I have a desktop hard wired thru a wireless router to a DSL modem.
I have two laptops connected wirelessly. the laptops can talk to each other. neither laptop can talk to the desktop. the desktop can't talk to either laptop. the laptops are single user. the desktop has multiple users. I set them all up from scratch. all system have the same workgroup - though at home it works fine with different workgroup names or the same. no firewall on the desktop. desktop is WinXP SP1 laptop 1 is WinXP SP2 laptop 2 is Win98SE. all computers can access the internet. one laptop is in the same configuration at home - except thru a cable modem - and works fine Desktop at home is WinXP SP2 with a firewall. I think I have tried everything. what did I miss?????????? thanks 
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August 18th 04, 02:28 PM
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August 19th 04, 12:20 AM
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Chuck
thanks for the reply. to tell the truth, i can't think straight any more. this issue is frustrating the crap out of me. I can't browse the network - It won't even show me MY laptop in the network places, but It does show the workgroup name after a looooonnnngg pause. I can see everything at home. I have the same workgroup name at the office as at home. When I had a different one at the office, it showed me that name. when the workgroup name on the laptop was the office workgroup, it still connected and worked just fine at home on the different home workgroup name. I can't ping the office desktop IP, I can't ping the laptop IPs from the office desktop. With another wireless laptop on the network, I can browse it, ping it, etc. and vice versa. I don't remember if it is a timeout error or network not found. I can log onto the router and I can browse the internet and ping anything associated with that EXCEPT the desktop. The network related services are the same on laptop and desktop. ipconfig yields the IP address assigned by the router and the proper gateway address on both computers. I don't remember what else the office DT showed, but I will capture that info tomorrow. I also have a hardwire port on the laptop which is called out - it is not connected. The following is the working configuration at home: HOME DESKTOP Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : flying-low Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : nc.rr.com Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : nc.rr.com Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter(LNE100TX v4) Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-5A-6D-38-FC Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.102 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, August 18, 2004 6:11:33 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:11:33 PM LAPTOP at HOME Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : inspiron-8200 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : nc.rr.com Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible) Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-08-74-3A-8C-5B Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : nc.rr.com Description . . . . . . . . . . . : U.S. Robotics 802.11g Wireless Turbo Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-49-D6-D3-44 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.101 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, August 18, 2004 6:10:13 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:10:13 PM The IP address is different at the office (192.168.5.11 and 12 and 254 gateway). the internet connection at the office is Bellsouth The only difference I can see is the home router is behind a cable modem - the office router is behind a DSL modem. Of course they are different brand and type routers (Uniden WR2004 802.11b at office). But since the interrnet works for all computers, that should not be the issue. The office router worked just fine when I had it at home before I installed the 802.11g router. I did have to configure it for PPPOE at the office in order to connect to the DSL router. If that gives you a clue, let me know. I will post the office config tomorrow. I don't think any of the tests you called for will function since I can't even ping the DT. DHCP should be functioning on the router since it connects the wireless laptops. - UNLESS the wireless laptops are connecting ad hoc. Interesting thought. BUT even if it were not it should ping the address, right??? thanks On 18 Aug 2004 08:28:16 -0500, Chuck wrote: On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 11:49:24 GMT, e wrote: I have a desktop hard wired thru a wireless router to a DSL modem. I have two laptops connected wirelessly. the laptops can talk to each other. neither laptop can talk to the desktop. the desktop can't talk to either laptop. the laptops are single user. the desktop has multiple users. I set them all up from scratch. all system have the same workgroup - though at home it works fine with different workgroup names or the same. no firewall on the desktop. desktop is WinXP SP1 laptop 1 is WinXP SP2 laptop 2 is Win98SE. all computers can access the internet. one laptop is in the same configuration at home - except thru a cable modem - and works fine Desktop at home is WinXP SP2 with a firewall. I think I have tried everything. what did I miss?????????? thanks The term "can't talk to" is kinda vague. Can't ping? Can't see in Windows Explorer? Can't open shares? Please provide ipconfig information for each computer. Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. Identify operating system (by name and version) (XP Home? Pro?) with each ipconfig listing. Between the desktop and one laptop (both ways), test shares visibility (use actual name / address of each computer as appropriate): Start - Run then: 1) \\ThisComputerByName 2) \\ThisComputerByIPAddress 3) \\OtherComputerByName 4) \\OtherComputerByIPAddress Report visibility of shares / error displayed in each test (8 tests total). Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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August 20th 04, 03:35 AM
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August 20th 04, 11:51 PM
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will do tests next monday - thanks
ALL computers DO have internet connection. On 19 Aug 2004 21:35:18 -0500, Chuck wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:10:06 GMT, e wrote: Chuck The only difference between home and office is that there is no DNS information at the office because the wireless router is behind a DSL 4 port router. The DNS SERVER address is listed. Please do the shares visibility tests - all 8 of them - and let me know the exact error messages. This helps me decide what to check next. IRT "DHCP should be functioning on the router since it connects the wireless laptops. - UNLESS the wireless laptops are connecting ad hoc.", if the laptops were adhoc, they wouldn't have a network connection to the router, and they wouldn't have internet. Do they have internet? Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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August 23rd 04, 10:50 PM
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All TCP-IP and network settings are the same on my LT and the DT-I
think. Workgroup name is the same on all computers All computers can access the inet. office DT can "see" all connected computers in windows explorer by name of shared resource. It will not connect to any indicating that ...not accessible. You might not have permission..... The network path was not found. When my LT is connected and I click on my workgroup name in My Network Places it says List of serviers not ... available. It wont even show me my computer under my network workgroup. This works fine at home with no changes. I can "see" other laptops (XP home and 98SE) in My Network places and connect to them and vice-versa. When I try to access by computer name or IP address it displays the MSN search page and tells me it can't find it. (either IE or windows explorer) It doesn't matter if my LT is connected hard or wireless - same results. On 19 Aug 2004 21:35:18 -0500, Chuck wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:10:06 GMT, e wrote: Chuck The only difference between home and office is that there is no DNS information at the office because the wireless router is behind a DSL 4 port router. The DNS SERVER address is listed. Please do the shares visibility tests - all 8 of them - and let me know the exact error messages. This helps me decide what to check next. IRT "DHCP should be functioning on the router since it connects the wireless laptops. - UNLESS the wireless laptops are connecting ad hoc.", if the laptops were adhoc, they wouldn't have a network connection to the router, and they wouldn't have internet. Do they have internet? Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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August 24th 04, 01:16 AM
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August 26th 04, 04:04 AM
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I guess I only did half of the tests.
I didn't do the "thiscomputer" test. I did the "othercomputer" - cannot browse the DT with any command. same error - network path not found. I cannot see anything on the office DT from any LT - tried three. I can see the laptop shares and the laptop name on the DT but I cannot look at anything else - network path not found I can browse any LT from any other LT On 23 Aug 2004 19:16:12 -0500, Chuck wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:50:29 GMT, e wrote: All TCP-IP and network settings are the same on my LT and the DT-I think. Workgroup name is the same on all computers All computers can access the inet. office DT can "see" all connected computers in windows explorer by name of shared resource. It will not connect to any indicating that ..not accessible. You might not have permission..... The network path was not found. When my LT is connected and I click on my workgroup name in My Network Places it says List of serviers not ... available. It wont even show me my computer under my network workgroup. This works fine at home with no changes. I can "see" other laptops (XP home and 98SE) in My Network places and connect to them and vice-versa. When I try to access by computer name or IP address it displays the MSN search page and tells me it can't find it. (either IE or windows explorer) It doesn't matter if my LT is connected hard or wireless - same results. From what you've said so far, I think you have a combination of two problems. Please don't get discouraged - your problems are solvable. But please read carefully what I say below. First, "..not accessible. You might not have permission....." sounds like a permissions (authentication / authorisation) problem. More about file sharing, between all different versions of Windows: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en "List of serviers not ... available." sounds like a browser problem (No, I'm not talking about Internet Explorer). The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your domain / workgroup, at any time. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188305 You can download Browstat from: http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip Browstat is very small (40K), needs no install, and runs from the command prompt. Just drop it onto a couple workstations, and run it. Compounding these problems is the fact that you seem to be using one, or both, laptops in two different environments. Only my LT has multiple environments. the others are not networked at home. And I've suggested several diagnostic procedures, but you keep summarising everything subjectively, instead of objectively, about your office environment. I can't be objective because I can't get any response other than an error message that it can't find the network path regardless of how I try to access it - IP or name path. Please verify for me: Is file sharing in your home environment OK? Is the problem in your office environment? Everything works fine in the home environment. the problem is the office computer. Next, please identify which items you move between your home and office. And test, carefully, in both locations. My LT - all tests work fine at home - IP or name query No tests work at the office - network path not found But the computer names do appear on the DT WExplorer Between the desktop and one laptop (both ways), at your office, test shares visibility (use actual name / address of each computer as appropriate): Start - Run then: 1) \\ThisComputerByName 2) \\ThisComputerByIPAddress 3) \\OtherComputerByName 4) \\OtherComputerByIPAddress Report visibility of shares / exact error displayed in each test (8 tests total). I did all the OTHERCOMPUTER tests but only 1/2 the THISCOMPUTER tests on my LT the browsers returned the MSN search screen because the path couldn't be found on the OTHERCOMPUTER test Please provide browstat information for each computer in your office, by running browstat from each. Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status c:\browstat.txt" into the command window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. After you do all of this, let's talk about file sharing permissioning. Please identify each computer in your home, and in your office. An IPConfig listing for each would be really helpful here. With each IPConfig listing, name and version of operating system. Please distinguish between XP Home and XP Pro - file sharing can work differently for the two versions. IPCONFIG listed in other post Cable Modem 192.168.123.254 home DT -----------USR Wireless MY LT 192.168.123.103 XP Pro Router XP Pro 192.168.123.102 ---------everything works------------------- DSL Modem 3 ports to other systems 192.168.1.254 Office DT --------Uniden Wireless My LT 192.168.5.12 XP Pro Router XP Pro (recent clean Wireless LT install) XP home 192.168.5.11 wireless LT 98 SE ---------------all LT can talk to each other----------------- --------DT can see first shared resourse but cannot browse it--------- sees my LT name and the two shared folders I enabled on the XP home system.- I didn't play much with the 98 system except to verify I could browse it from mine all permissions are default - I changed nothing On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel - Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro, you need to have SFS properly set on each computer. Depending upon whether you have all XP Home, all XP Pro, or some of each, SFS may be advised. File sharing is totally enabled on my LT - I can access anything at home - all SFS. office DT has sharing enabled also SFS other LT(XP home) had sharing enabled on specific folders which appeared on the DT browser, but I could not access them - path not found. SFS With XP Pro, if SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic - local users authenticate as themselves". Not an issue - SFS is enabled - Home DT computer is set to Guest Only With XP Pro, if you set the Local Security Policy to "Guest only", make sure that the Guest account is enabled, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run - "lusrmgr.msc"), and has an identical, non-blank, password on all computers. If "Classic", setup and use a common non-Guest account, with identical, non-blank, password on all computers. not an issue - SFS enabled For XP Home, OR for XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the Guest account is enabled (for XP Pro, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run - "lusrmgr.msc")), on each computer. Guest account is enabled at home - will check office tomorrow I tried to logon to the guest account on the XP home LT but didn't know what the password was - not blank It should be default because owner wouldn't know how to change it. but I don't know what that is Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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August 28th 04, 03:51 AM
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Chuck, I’m having a similar issue with my home network (also my first time
using a discussion group). I’ve install sp2 on 2 of the 4 computers on the net and now I’m having issues browsing the other pc’s on the network. All can access the internet plus any mapped drives (to the file/music server) still work. Please advise what I should do next. I ran ipconfig on all the pc's (see below) ================================================== === WinXP Pro SP2 Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : weiss01 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : wi.rr.com Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : wi.rr.com Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-76-1E-D7-86 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.5 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.160.227.33 24.160.227.32 24.94.165.132 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, August 27, 2004 8:33:00 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, September 03, 2004 8:33:00 PM ================================================== === WInXP home SP2 Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : 00FileServer Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : wi.rr.com Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : wi.rr.com Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter(LNE100TX v4) Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-20-78-18-42-8D Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.6 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.160.227.33 24.160.227.32 24.94.165.132 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, August 27, 2004 6:28:11 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, September 03, 2004 6:28:11 PM ================================================== === WinXP Pro SP1 Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : weiss02 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-76-2A-D2-C6 Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 4: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : wi.rr.com Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR WG121 802.11g Wireless USB2.0 Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-09-5B-5D-41-FA Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.160.227.33 24.160.227.32 24.94.165.132 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:42:39 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:42:39 PM ================================================== === WinXP Pro SP1 Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : weiss04 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Network Bridge: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 32-31-35-8F-02-F5 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.106.118 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : wi.rr.com Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR WG121 802.11g Wireless USB2.0 Adapter #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-09-5B-5B-AA-81 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.160.227.33 24.160.227.32 24.94.165.132 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:33:01 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 01, 2004 7:33:01 PM "Chuck" wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:04:18 GMT, e wrote: I guess I only did half of the tests. I didn't do the "thiscomputer" test. I did the "othercomputer" - cannot browse the DT with any command. same error - network path not found. I cannot see anything on the office DT from any LT - tried three. I can see the laptop shares and the laptop name on the DT but I cannot look at anything else - network path not found I can browse any LT from any other LT That's OK. You only did half of the tests. So do them again - and please present the results in a complete state, as I described, so I can see what the results were. Your descriptions above are not terribly useful. When you're sick you go to the doctor. And he has tests done - sometimes multiple tests until he gets conclusive results. Try and get conclusive results please. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:51:03 -0700, Bay View Guy Bay View
wrote: Chuck, I’m having a similar issue with my home network (also my first time using a discussion group). I’ve install sp2 on 2 of the 4 computers on the net and now I’m having issues browsing the other pc’s on the network. All can access the internet plus any mapped drives (to the file/music server) still work. Please advise what I should do next. Guy, You currently think you have a similar issue as Cher. As you, and the helpers here, explore your issues, you may find out that's not the case at all. You'll find that a lot more folks can help you if they can find your posts. This means, to start, that you should start a new thread, with a different Subject / Title, so everybody can find posts about your problem, and keep them separate from the original poster. How to Compose a Good Newsgroup Post http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to Act Smart on Usenet http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Getting Your Post Noticed - and Answered http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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August 28th 04, 05:06 AM
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Thanks for your help Doc, but I can't give you any better information.
It can't find the network path from the DT to any LT or vice versa when I try to browse a visable network share. It can see the share name when the LTs are connected. My LT can't see or browse itself when connected to the office router, but has no problem at home. I have absolutely no problem when my LT is connected to MY DT even if the workgroup name is different. I did it with WinXP on all systems. I now have WinXP SP2 on my LT and DT but not on the office DT. The router is working because 2 LTs can see and browse one another. All systems can access the inet thru the router. symtoms are the same hard wired or wireless. there is a firewall on my LT but not on the DT or other LTs. I turned it off. the problem remains the same. I can't browse by name or IP address. As far as I can tell, all settings are the same on my lT and the DT as relates to any networking function. the only thing that is different is that I have 10 users on the office DT and only one on the home DT - why would that prevent connecting with LTs. That is all I can tell you. On 26 Aug 2004 08:35:11 -0500, Chuck wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:04:18 GMT, e wrote: I guess I only did half of the tests. I didn't do the "thiscomputer" test. I did the "othercomputer" - cannot browse the DT with any command. same error - network path not found. I cannot see anything on the office DT from any LT - tried three. I can see the laptop shares and the laptop name on the DT but I cannot look at anything else - network path not found I can browse any LT from any other LT That's OK. You only did half of the tests. So do them again - and please present the results in a complete state, as I described, so I can see what the results were. Your descriptions above are not terribly useful. When you're sick you go to the doctor. And he has tests done - sometimes multiple tests until he gets conclusive results. Try and get conclusive results please. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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