Only administrator account permits this program.

Bill Bradshaw wrote:

These are progams that ran fine under x86 Windows 10 Pro. So the
drivers would have been written for x86. One of these manages the
function keys on the computer and would have been written for x86
Vista. Is there anyway around this?

Is it a supported keyboard remapping program? If so, check if the
author has a 64-bit version of their driver or program that intercepts
the scan codes from the keyboard. If not, you'll have to find a 64-bit
alternative keymap tool.

I didn't think a program that intercepts keyboard scan codes needs to
use a driver. If it uses system APIs to get the scan codes, a driver
isn't needed. It would just have to get loaded and remain backgrounded
to capture the keypresses as they occur, or the key capture code is part
of a program you are already using. For example, Sharpkeys
(https://www.randyrants.com/category/sharpkeys/) does not use a driver.
It uses .Net Framework to capture key events via system API calls. This
one doesn't even need to resident for its remappings to work. It
defines the remappings in the registry. I'm not sure, but my guess is
under:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Keyboard Layout

where some typical mappings are already defined. Registry-defined
[re]mappings don't use a driver. They don't even rely on background
keyboard remapper programs. The scan code is defined in the registry.
A couple others (that rely on registry-defined key mappings) are
mentioned at:

https://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/06/th...ard-remapping/

Yeah, old, but then so, too, is the Windows registry. There are newer
articles, like just a couple months old, still mentioning Sharpkeys.
There are monster remappers and macro recorders, like AutoHotkeys and
AutoIt. As I recall, those don't rely on registry definitions, but must
always run in the background to intercept the keypress events (or
generate them for recorded macros).

However, if the program is directly interrogating the hardware then,
yes, a driver is required. The driver is the interface between the OS
(and other processes) with the hardware.

Did this keyboard remapper software come bundled with a keyboard, so it
works with only THAT keyboard? Is this vertical market software that is
a company secret you cannot reveal? Why the secrecy? Or is that a
secret, too?

Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2020 10:18:39 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw"
wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:

I am the only one in this house so the first thing I turn off is
UAC. Besides I do not do anything illegal and password protect
personal info. Is there anything that would bring this up because
I am trying to install x86 on x64?

Don't know if you upgraded from x32 to x64 (didn't think you could
do that, but I've not tried), or if you did a fresh install of x64
(I always do fresh installs, never upgrades). Also, no idea what
are "some programs" or under what folder they are installed (some
old programs expect allowances under C:\Program Files [x86]" that
haven't been allowed since Windows Vista).

Is the exact message you get "Only administrator account permits
this program"? UAC gives a prompt "Do you want to allow this app
to make changes". What you describe sounds like a policy setting.

It was a fresh install of x64 Windows Pro. I thought maybe x64 did
not like some x86 programs

"...some x86 programs" that you installed. We can't see what they
are. Can you give an example or two? Maybe someone else ran into the
same situation and worked out a solution.

which would make sense. The exact message is how you
typed it. It is surprising that I could not find this wording on a
search of the internet.

This Samsung laptop P460 came with a program that sets up the function keys.
Such as one combination that turns on and off the backlight, switches from
the laptop screen to an attached screen, etc. It does not want to install.
There are no device manager errors reported. I am only out about $50 for
the memory upgrade to 8 Gigs so I am thinking time has run out for this
computer and I am going to restore it to x86 and look for a new laptop.
Thanks to everybody for trying to help keep this antiquated computer going.
Let's not waste anymore time on it.

Bill

Bill Bradshaw wrote:

It turned out the message is not a windows 10 message but a message in the
program. The program is owned by the Administrators but maybe that means an
administrator does not really own it. I will have to research this in the
future.

So where am I. I found a Windows 7 x64 HDMI driver in the UK and now my
HDMI port works again. I found a message that pointed me to a windows 8
display manager file that has my function keys working. It is a good thing
I am sheltering in place and do not have a dog to talk to otherwise I might
of given up.

Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is giving
me when I try to install some programs.

Thanks for the help and sticking with me.
--
Bill

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

Bill Bradshaw wrote:


Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is giving
me when I try to install some programs.

I thought only Black Hats used red messages...

Paul

Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:


Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is
giving me when I try to install some programs.

I thought only Black Hats used red messages...


So you have not seen this. Maybe because you have not tried to rebuild
windows. I will image it and try to find a way to get it to you.

Bill

Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:


Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is
giving me when I try to install some programs.

I thought only Black Hats used red messages...

Paul

I have an image of the message. I would like to get it to you somehow and
see if you know of a setting in my Windows 10 Pro I need to change to
install this program. The program has to do with my computer turbo
settings. I do not do any video or exchange of images etc. on the internet
so I will need some help. Hopefully it will not involve registering.
--
Bill

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

Bill Bradshaw wrote:

Paul wrote:

Bill Bradshaw wrote:

Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is
giving me when I try to install some programs.

I thought only Black Hats used red messages...

I have an image of the message. I would like to get it to you
somehow and see if you know of a setting in my Windows 10 Pro I need
to change to install this program. The program has to do with my
computer turbo settings. I do not do any video or exchange of images
etc. on the internet so I will need some help. Hopefully it will not
involve registering.

Take a snapshot of the screen. Make sure no other windows or desktop
icons reveal anything personal, or edit it out. Some clip managers let
you choose what to snapshot, like a window instead of the entire screen.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/8-ways-y...in-windows-10/

Open MS Paint (or Paint.Net or whatever image editor you like) and paste
the clip. Save to a file. Open imgur.com and drag the image file into
the web browser's document window. The file gets uploaded. You can
even give a title and description of the image. Then provide the URL to
point to the uploaded snapshot file.

Not sure what "do with your computer turbo settings". Does that mean it
is a tweaker program? Those need the user to grant elevated privileges
for them to edit the registry. Besides UAC (which you said you
disabled), you may have other security software installed (e.g., anti-
virus, anti-malware, policy restrictions, etc) that may generate the
user prompt. If the turbo settings are in your BIOS, you're not even
running Windows when you're in the BIOS screens.

Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:

Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is
giving me when I try to install some programs.
I thought only Black Hats used red messages...

Paul

I have an image of the message. I would like to get it to you somehow and
see if you know of a setting in my Windows 10 Pro I need to change to
install this program. The program has to do with my computer turbo
settings. I do not do any video or exchange of images etc. on the internet
so I will need some help. Hopefully it will not involve registering.

Upload here.

https://postimages.org/

"Choose images"

It will come back with a series of URLs.

Try posting the "direct link" URL in your next message.

*******

Another one, is imgur.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...aring_websites

"Imgur United States Free image hosting, no registration required."

Paul

Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:

Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother
is giving me when I try to install some programs.
I thought only Black Hats used red messages...

Paul

I have an image of the message. I would like to get it to you
somehow and see if you know of a setting in my Windows 10 Pro I need
to change to install this program. The program has to do with my
computer turbo settings. I do not do any video or exchange of
images etc. on the internet so I will need some help. Hopefully it
will not involve registering.

Upload here.

https://postimages.org/

"Choose images"

It will come back with a series of URLs.

Try posting the "direct link" URL in your next message.

*******

Another one, is imgur.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...aring_websites

"Imgur United States Free image hosting, no registration
required."
Paul

This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do with Ready
Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so I am not going to
install.

https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ

What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I contact
:-). I looked through the files with HxD to see if this was a program
message or Windows 10 message. I did not find anything in the program files
regarding the message. Do you think this is Windows? By the way, except
for 2 of the function key combinations on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64
change is working fine. I am one of these people that wants everything to
work even if it is not necessary.

Bill

Bill Bradshaw wrote:

This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do with
Ready Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so I am
not going to install.

Don't know what you were trying to do. None of the image storage sites
that I've ever used require installing any software. All they're doing
is uploading a file. If you don't want to use drag-n-drop to upload a
file, use their file browser dialog.

https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ

Well, right at the top it says it is a prompt for User Account Control.
Yet you claimed to have disabled UAC.

Is this your computer, or someone else's? Is a family member's,
friend's, or workplace's computer?

If it is your computer, are you logging in under a Windows account that
has administrator privileges? Or are you logging in under a normal or
guest account?

Non-admin Windows accounts (i.e., guest or standard/normal accounts) are
not allowed to install programs. Does not appear you are logging into
Windows with an admin-level account.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...-control-works
"The elevation prompt color-coding is as follows:
- Red background with a red shield icon: The app is blocked by Group
Policy or is from a publisher that is blocked.
..."

Disable User Account Control (UAC) the Easy Way on Win 7, 8, or 10
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...windows-vista/

As I recall, you cannot change the UAC level if the Windows account
under which you logged it is not in the Administrators security group.

What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I
contact. I looked through the files with HxD to see if this was a
program message or Windows 10 message. I did not find anything in
the program files regarding the message. Do you think this is
Windows? By the way, except for 2 of the function key combinations
on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64 change is working fine. I am one
of these people that wants everything to work even if it is not
necessary.

Administrator account and those Windows accounts in the Administrators
security group do NOT have full privileges. They just have more. Only
the SYSTEM account has full privileges.

To see in which security group is your Windows account, open a command
shell and run:

net user

That will list all the user accounts defined under SAM (Security Account
Manager). Then run the following on YOUR Windows account:

net user youraccount

Under the "Local Group Memberships" (the security groups), to which does
your Windows account belong? Security groups are a way of assigning
permissions to each group, and then Windows accounts will enlist in one,
or more, of the security groups to inherit their permissions.

Bill Bradshaw wrote:

This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do with Ready
Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so I am not going to
install.

https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ

What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I contact
:-). I looked through the files with HxD to see if this was a program
message or Windows 10 message. I did not find anything in the program files
regarding the message. Do you think this is Windows? By the way, except
for 2 of the function key combinations on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64
change is working fine. I am one of these people that wants everything to
work even if it is not necessary.

Bill

When you download files to your Download folder with a browser,
Windows sets an alternate stream, which indicates the file source
is "foreign".

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-f...ion-windows-10

The Properties for the file, offers an option to "Unblock".

You can disable SmartScreen, as a second way to fix it.

If a file is signed with a certificate, perhaps that
improves the odds of it being accepted.

I don't think I've seen one of those, and it has
something to do with my "habits" when setting these
OSes up :-) Purely an accident I assure you. For example,
if a Windows Defender method requires any kind of
uploading or downloading for the method to work,
I would probably be disabling that. But the
real time AV signature type scans, I leave that
running (and the signature updates are fine, I just
don't want any hoovering of personal files).

I have a pretty good idea, that everything in my
Downloads folder is foreign. And should not be
trusted.

To test how this works, I just downloaded the Firefox Installer
from Mozilla. Then, I ran "nfi.exe", a utility from the Win2K
era, that gives metadata information about files. You can
see the "Zone Identifier" that does not exist on other files,
was added after the download. Now, if I try to run the file,
and SmartScreen is enabled, maybe there will be trouble,
or maybe not.

File 4503

\Users\Bullwinkle\Downloads\Firefox Installer.exe
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident) \__ There should not be
$FILE_NAME (resident) / hardlinks, I don't like this...
$OBJECT_ID (resident)
$DATA (nonresident)
logical sectors 4473704-4474335 (0x444368-0x4445df)
$DATA Zone.Identifier (resident) === how files are marked "foreign"

Paul

Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:

This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do
with Ready Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so
I am not going to install.

https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ

What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I
contact :-). I looked through the files with HxD to see if this was
a program message or Windows 10 message. I did not find anything in
the program files regarding the message. Do you think this is
Windows? By the way, except for 2 of the function key combinations
on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64 change is working fine. I am one
of these people that wants everything to work even if it is not
necessary. Bill

When you download files to your Download folder with a browser,
Windows sets an alternate stream, which indicates the file source
is "foreign".

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-f...ion-windows-10

The Properties for the file, offers an option to "Unblock".

You can disable SmartScreen, as a second way to fix it.

If a file is signed with a certificate, perhaps that
improves the odds of it being accepted.

I don't think I've seen one of those, and it has
something to do with my "habits" when setting these
OSes up :-) Purely an accident I assure you. For example,
if a Windows Defender method requires any kind of
uploading or downloading for the method to work,
I would probably be disabling that. But the
real time AV signature type scans, I leave that
running (and the signature updates are fine, I just
don't want any hoovering of personal files).

I have a pretty good idea, that everything in my
Downloads folder is foreign. And should not be
trusted.

To test how this works, I just downloaded the Firefox Installer
from Mozilla. Then, I ran "nfi.exe", a utility from the Win2K
era, that gives metadata information about files. You can
see the "Zone Identifier" that does not exist on other files,
was added after the download. Now, if I try to run the file,
and SmartScreen is enabled, maybe there will be trouble,
or maybe not.

File 4503

\Users\Bullwinkle\Downloads\Firefox Installer.exe
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident) \__ There
should not be $FILE_NAME (resident) /
hardlinks, I don't like this... $OBJECT_ID (resident)
$DATA (nonresident)
logical sectors 4473704-4474335 (0x444368-0x4445df)
$DATA Zone.Identifier (resident) === how
files are marked "foreign"
Paul

I am just going to answer 1 email. I have spent alot of time getting this
computer working with x64. Fortunately it is partitioned and I keep full
backups but I can get away with just backing up a C: before I start doing
weird things to it.

There is only 1 account and it is Local and Administrator.
Smart Screen is off.
UAC is off.

Maybe it has something to do with Exploit Protection. What do you think?

It sounds like you believe this message came from Windows.

I will also look at the unblock option.

Bill

On 01/06/2020 18:35, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
I am just going to answer 1 email. I have spent alot of time getting this
computer working with x64.


I thought you've spent a lot of time telling us that you are a complete
idiot when we knew all along from your first post.

Anyway, this is a salient point for the future.





--
With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:

This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do
with Ready Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so
I am not going to install.

https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ

What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I
contact :-). I looked through the files with HxD to see if this was
a program message or Windows 10 message. I did not find anything in
the program files regarding the message. Do you think this is
Windows? By the way, except for 2 of the function key combinations
on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64 change is working fine. I am one
of these people that wants everything to work even if it is not
necessary. Bill
When you download files to your Download folder with a browser,
Windows sets an alternate stream, which indicates the file source
is "foreign".

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-f...ion-windows-10

The Properties for the file, offers an option to "Unblock".

You can disable SmartScreen, as a second way to fix it.

If a file is signed with a certificate, perhaps that
improves the odds of it being accepted.

I don't think I've seen one of those, and it has
something to do with my "habits" when setting these
OSes up :-) Purely an accident I assure you. For example,
if a Windows Defender method requires any kind of
uploading or downloading for the method to work,
I would probably be disabling that. But the
real time AV signature type scans, I leave that
running (and the signature updates are fine, I just
don't want any hoovering of personal files).

I have a pretty good idea, that everything in my
Downloads folder is foreign. And should not be
trusted.

To test how this works, I just downloaded the Firefox Installer
from Mozilla. Then, I ran "nfi.exe", a utility from the Win2K
era, that gives metadata information about files. You can
see the "Zone Identifier" that does not exist on other files,
was added after the download. Now, if I try to run the file,
and SmartScreen is enabled, maybe there will be trouble,
or maybe not.

File 4503

\Users\Bullwinkle\Downloads\Firefox Installer.exe
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident) \__ There
should not be $FILE_NAME (resident) /
hardlinks, I don't like this... $OBJECT_ID (resident)
$DATA (nonresident)
logical sectors 4473704-4474335 (0x444368-0x4445df)
$DATA Zone.Identifier (resident) === how
files are marked "foreign"
Paul

I am just going to answer 1 email. I have spent alot of time getting this
computer working with x64. Fortunately it is partitioned and I keep full
backups but I can get away with just backing up a C: before I start doing
weird things to it.

There is only 1 account and it is Local and Administrator.
Smart Screen is off.
UAC is off.

Maybe it has something to do with Exploit Protection. What do you think?

It sounds like you believe this message came from Windows.

I will also look at the unblock option.

Bill

It might. I'm not an authority on the depth and breadth
of Windows Defender in Windows 10. I've enabled only the
stuff I consider relevant to the threat surface there.
There is no email on my "real" Win10 installs. Email is
done over here, on this machine. It's POP3, so there's only
one program doing the emailing.

If I have to, I have a VM with a mail server inside it, and
in there, I can do email testing when necessary. That's how
I can test the windows 10 Mail App. And pump messages to it
with Thunderbird. The client programs attach to 127.0.0.1
kind of thing.

https://www.hmailserver.com/

Paul

Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:

This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do
with Ready Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so
I am not going to install.

https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ

What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I
contact :-). I looked through the files with HxD to see if this
was a program message or Windows 10 message. I did not find
anything in the program files regarding the message. Do you think
this is Windows? By the way, except for 2 of the function key
combinations on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64 change is working
fine. I am one of these people that wants everything to work even
if it is not necessary. Bill
When you download files to your Download folder with a browser,
Windows sets an alternate stream, which indicates the file source
is "foreign".

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-f...ion-windows-10

The Properties for the file, offers an option to "Unblock".

You can disable SmartScreen, as a second way to fix it.

If a file is signed with a certificate, perhaps that
improves the odds of it being accepted.

I don't think I've seen one of those, and it has
something to do with my "habits" when setting these
OSes up :-) Purely an accident I assure you. For example,
if a Windows Defender method requires any kind of
uploading or downloading for the method to work,
I would probably be disabling that. But the
real time AV signature type scans, I leave that
running (and the signature updates are fine, I just
don't want any hoovering of personal files).

I have a pretty good idea, that everything in my
Downloads folder is foreign. And should not be
trusted.

To test how this works, I just downloaded the Firefox Installer
from Mozilla. Then, I ran "nfi.exe", a utility from the Win2K
era, that gives metadata information about files. You can
see the "Zone Identifier" that does not exist on other files,
was added after the download. Now, if I try to run the file,
and SmartScreen is enabled, maybe there will be trouble,
or maybe not.

File 4503

\Users\Bullwinkle\Downloads\Firefox Installer.exe
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident) \__
There should not be $FILE_NAME (resident) /
hardlinks, I don't like this... $OBJECT_ID (resident)
$DATA (nonresident)
logical sectors 4473704-4474335 (0x444368-0x4445df)
$DATA Zone.Identifier (resident) === how
files are marked "foreign"
Paul

I am just going to answer 1 email. I have spent alot of time
getting this computer working with x64. Fortunately it is
partitioned and I keep full backups but I can get away with just
backing up a C: before I start doing weird things to it.

There is only 1 account and it is Local and Administrator.
Smart Screen is off.
UAC is off.

Maybe it has something to do with Exploit Protection. What do you
think? It sounds like you believe this message came from Windows.

I will also look at the unblock option.

Bill

It might. I'm not an authority on the depth and breadth
of Windows Defender in Windows 10. I've enabled only the
stuff I consider relevant to the threat surface there.
There is no email on my "real" Win10 installs. Email is
done over here, on this machine. It's POP3, so there's only
one program doing the emailing.

If I have to, I have a VM with a mail server inside it, and
in there, I can do email testing when necessary. That's how
I can test the windows 10 Mail App. And pump messages to it
with Thunderbird. The client programs attach to 127.0.0.1
kind of thing.

https://www.hmailserver.com/

Paul

I am going no further with this. Thanks for all the help and expanding my
knowledge as much as it can be. Now I will try 2004 and see what happens.
--
Bill

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska