Optional Update KB3172605

Went ahead and installed this optional update this evening. My PC got
stuck at the "Preparing to configure Window. Do not turn off your
computer" screen.

Had to boot in Safe Mode and do a System Restore.

Just wanted to let people know. It might be a good idea to do a
complete backup (image) of the disk before installing the update, just
in case System Restore fails for some reason...
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tb

tb wrote:
Went ahead and installed this optional update this evening. My PC got
stuck at the "Preparing to configure Window. Do not turn off your
computer" screen.

Had to boot in Safe Mode and do a System Restore.

Just wanted to let people know. It might be a good idea to do a
complete backup (image) of the disk before installing the update, just
in case System Restore fails for some reason...

Do you use Bluetooth?

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Z

On 7/27/2016 at 10:18:34 AM Z wrote:

tb wrote:
Went ahead and installed this optional update this evening. My PC
got stuck at the "Preparing to configure Window. Do not turn off
your computer" screen.

Had to boot in Safe Mode and do a System Restore.

Just wanted to let people know. It might be a good idea to do a
complete backup (image) of the disk before installing the update,
just in case System Restore fails for some reason...

Do you use Bluetooth?

No. The computer does have that capability but I do not use it.

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tb

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:42:51 -0500, tb wrote:

Went ahead and installed this optional update this evening. My PC got
stuck at the "Preparing to configure Window. Do not turn off your
computer" screen.

What's the purpose of KB3172605?

Had to boot in Safe Mode and do a System Restore.

Just wanted to let people know. It might be a good idea to do a
complete backup (image) of the disk before installing the update, just
in case System Restore fails for some reason...

System Restore is one of the first things I uninstall when installing a
new Windows system. I use Macrium Reflect Free to create an image
/before/ I install any Windows Updates.

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s|b

On 7/27/2016 at 1:50:52 PM s|b wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:42:51 -0500, tb wrote:

Went ahead and installed this optional update this evening. My PC
got stuck at the "Preparing to configure Window. Do not turn off
your computer" screen.

What's the purpose of KB3172605?


See this article: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605

Had to boot in Safe Mode and do a System Restore.

Just wanted to let people know. It might be a good idea to do a
complete backup (image) of the disk before installing the update,
just in case System Restore fails for some reason...

System Restore is one of the first things I uninstall when installing
a new Windows system. I use Macrium Reflect Free to create an image
before I install any Windows Updates.

Doesn't it take a long time to image a hard drive? System Restore is
fairly quick...

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tb

tb wrote:


Doesn't it take a long time to image a hard drive? System Restore is
fairly quick...

Not if you arrange your files efficiently. (Move the bulk
of the data files to a separate disk or partition.)

A typical operation here takes 10 minutes. My record
is 1.5 minutes (inside a VM).

Sure, it takes hours, if your C: is 3 Terabytes and
you have 3 Terabytes of DVDs in your download folder.
Try to split the content up a bit. Place your DVDs on
an "archival" partition. Back it up separately.

It takes me 10 minutes to do C: . It takes *all day*
to do the entire computer, and back up everything.

Paul

tb presented the following explanation :
On 7/27/2016 at 1:50:52 PM s|b wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:42:51 -0500, tb wrote:

Went ahead and installed this optional update this evening. My PC
got stuck at the "Preparing to configure Window. Do not turn off
your computer" screen.

What's the purpose of KB3172605?


See this article: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605

Had to boot in Safe Mode and do a System Restore.

Just wanted to let people know. It might be a good idea to do a
complete backup (image) of the disk before installing the update,
just in case System Restore fails for some reason...

System Restore is one of the first things I uninstall when installing
a new Windows system. I use Macrium Reflect Free to create an image
before I install any Windows Updates.

Doesn't it take a long time to image a hard drive? System Restore is
fairly quick...

Ask yourself why. Do you think that the image creation process is just
dragging its feet? System restore is only a partial solution at best to
a smaller variety of problems.

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:51:11 +0000 (UTC), "tb"
wrote:

On 7/27/2016 at 1:50:52 PM s|b wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:42:51 -0500, tb wrote:

Went ahead and installed this optional update this evening. My PC
got stuck at the "Preparing to configure Window. Do not turn off
your computer" screen.

What's the purpose of KB3172605?


See this article: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605

Had to boot in Safe Mode and do a System Restore.

Just wanted to let people know. It might be a good idea to do a
complete backup (image) of the disk before installing the update,
just in case System Restore fails for some reason...

System Restore is one of the first things I uninstall when installing
a new Windows system. I use Macrium Reflect Free to create an image
before I install any Windows Updates.

Doesn't it take a long time to image a hard drive? System Restore is
fairly quick...

SR is also almost completely opaque. People who use it have no idea what
changes it will make to their system.

They'll tell you that they don't care as long as the issue is resolved, but
the concept of not caring is foreign to me. So, like s|b, I disable SR as
one of the first things I do to a new system.

--

Char Jackson

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:51:11 +0000 (UTC), tb wrote:

Doesn't it take a long time to image a hard drive? System Restore is
fairly quick...

Around 6 minutes. 10 minutes to restore.

I make an image of my C: drive (Windows and programs) which is on a SSD.
My data - which I also backup on a regular basis - is located on another
drive.

Maybe it takes longer than SR, but when I restore the image it will be
exactly as it was. SR leaves crap behind although some think that's open
to discussion. I tried it twice and several files were left behind, so
never again.

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s|b

In message , tb
writes:
On 7/27/2016 at 1:50:52 PM s|b wrote:
[]
System Restore is one of the first things I uninstall when installing
a new Windows system. I use Macrium Reflect Free to create an image
before I install any Windows Updates.

Doesn't it take a long time to image a hard drive? System Restore is
fairly quick...

+1. I certainly wouldn't neglect periodic images, but I can't see any
point (unless you're _very_ short of disc space) in turning off (let
alone uninstalling) system restore; I've often found it _does_ fix
something that's broken, and much more quickly than restoring an image.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The modern world so often thinks that the way to relax is by doing absolutely
nothing, and I've never really understood that.
Nigella Lawson in RT 2015/10/31-11/6

Lucid? wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 00:11:54 +0200, FredW
wrote:


/quote from KB 3125574
This rollup package includes most updates that were released after the
release of SP1 for Windows 7, through April 2016.
We recommend that you include this rollup package in the image creation
process to make it easier to quickly set up a computer.
/end quote

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As I never found any description as to what Restore specifically does
(files, programs, etc.) and as I found in practice that System restore
is most unreliable (you never know what will be restored or *not*),
I switched System Restore off to save ill-used space.

Weekly I make an image before Windows Update.
Making an image on my computer takes 12-15 minutes.
Restore takes 10-12 minutes.
After a restore the computer is 100% back in a previous situation,
no system restore can compete with that.
Proven in practice.
(keeping 10+ images)
Does this rollup include any GWX stuff?

Lucid? wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 00:11:54 +0200, FredW
wrote:


/quote from KB 3125574
This rollup package includes most updates that were released after the
release of SP1 for Windows 7, through April 2016.
We recommend that you include this rollup package in the image creation
process to make it easier to quickly set up a computer.
/end quote

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As I never found any description as to what Restore specifically does
(files, programs, etc.) and as I found in practice that System restore
is most unreliable (you never know what will be restored or *not*),
I switched System Restore off to save ill-used space.

Weekly I make an image before Windows Update.
Making an image on my computer takes 12-15 minutes.
Restore takes 10-12 minutes.
After a restore the computer is 100% back in a previous situation,
no system restore can compete with that.
Proven in practice.
(keeping 10+ images)
Does this rollup include any GWX stuff?

No.

The '583 package is gated. The Windows Advisor code in '664
checks whether a machine should receive '583, and only
then does it get queued in Windows Update.

They try not to give upgrade materials to people who do not
qualify.

This makes no practical sense, in that the Microsoft Marketing Man
wants everyone to get a copy of Windows 10. Nevertheless,
this is the observation, that '583 is *not* squirreled into
rollups, cumulatives, convenience packs, or ham sandwiches.
It is only delivered one way - through Windows Update, and
only after the logic has vetted the machine. You cannot
even get '583 from the catalog server as a KB - it's not
listed there. That should give you some idea it is receiving
handling in a certain way, as if there were legal reasons
for doing it that way (i.e. avoiding litigation, avoiding
****ed off stockholders, or whatever). It's pretty hard
to say what's behind it all - and it's especially
weird when in many other circumstances, they're shoving
the upgrade in your face.

If you are proactively using GWX Stopper, you have nothing
to worry about anyway. The worst that can happen is wasted
bandwidth.

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html

There are two registry keys that programs like GWX Stopper
use. And you can look these up and apply them manually,
if you have any concerns about third-party software. The
author of Ghacks, also runs vistax64.com, sevenforums,
eightforums, tenforums, and writes a good deal of the
tutorial materials on those sites. The GWX Stopper just
wires up some buttons, for people who don't want to use
Regedit.

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/01/08/dis...to-windows-10/

Paul

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 23:36:30 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

+1. I certainly wouldn't neglect periodic images, but I can't see any
point (unless you're _very_ short of disc space) in turning off (let
alone uninstalling) system restore; I've often found it _does_ fix
something that's broken, and much more quickly than restoring an image.

Be that as it may, in my experience SR leaves crap (empty folders,
"ghost" files) behind. The problem may be quickly "fixed", you're left
behind with useless crap.

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s|b

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 23:36:30 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , tb
writes:
On 7/27/2016 at 1:50:52 PM s|b wrote:
[]
System Restore is one of the first things I uninstall when installing
a new Windows system. I use Macrium Reflect Free to create an image
before I install any Windows Updates.

Doesn't it take a long time to image a hard drive? System Restore is
fairly quick...

+1. I certainly wouldn't neglect periodic images, but I can't see any
point (unless you're _very_ short of disc space) in turning off (let
alone uninstalling) system restore; I've often found it _does_ fix
something that's broken, and much more quickly than restoring an image.

You have more faith than I do. I would never use SR to try to resolve an
issue. I'm not swayed by the fact that it sometimes seems to work. When you
don't know in advance what changes it's going to make, and you don't know in
hindsight what changes it has made, it's simply too dangerous for general
use.

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Char Jackson