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Old September 17th 14, 02:23 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken[_8_]
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Default Failure to copy to second disk

I am using Windows 7 Premium, and have that operating system on two
different computers. I use a program called Casper 7 to clone the boot
hard drives to a spare so that if I had a crash I would not lose
everything. On the laptop, the program copies the data from the C:
partition without a hitch. On the desktop I get a failure when doing
so. It says: "The disk you were saving to or the disk used for
temporary files is full. Free some space on this disk and try again, or
save to a different disk." The program suggests that it might be the
Anti Virus program (McAfee) or the Firewall (McAfee) that is preventing
the transfer. McAfee is installed on both computers and it is the same
version. I have turned off both on the desktop and it still refuses to
make the copy to the clone disk. If I boot into Safe Mode on the
desktop computer, the software can do the transfer.

From this I figure that something is loading in Windows that is
preventing the transfer and giving the error message. I looked to see
if I could spot something that was loading that could account for the
difference, but did not see anything.

Does anyone have any ideas what the cause of the error message and
failure to copy could be? I looked at the target hard drive and
everything looks OK. Again if I clone in Safe Mode the target drive
boots just fine without any messages.
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Old September 18th 14, 04:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
JIP[_3_]
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Default Failure to copy to second disk

Ken wrote:

I am using Windows 7 Premium, and have that operating system on two
different computers. I use a program called Casper 7 to clone the
boot hard drives to a spare so that if I had a crash I would not lose
everything. On the laptop, the program copies the data from the C:
partition without a hitch. On the desktop I get a failure when doing
so. It says: "The disk you were saving to or the disk used for
temporary files is full. Free some space on this disk and try again,
or save to a different disk." The program suggests that it might be
the Anti Virus program (McAfee) or the Firewall (McAfee) that is
preventing the transfer. McAfee is installed on both computers and
it is the same version. I have turned off both on the desktop and it
still refuses to make the copy to the clone disk. If I boot into
Safe Mode on the desktop computer, the software can do the transfer.

From this I figure that something is loading in Windows that is
preventing the transfer and giving the error message. I looked to
see if I could spot something that was loading that could account for
the difference, but did not see anything.

Does anyone have any ideas what the cause of the error message and
failure to copy could be? I looked at the target hard drive and
everything looks OK. Again if I clone in Safe Mode the target drive
boots just fine without any messages.


I use Casper 8 and in the past have copied larger to smaller disk
faultlessly. On the rare occasions when I've had problems, I have found
their own support people to be fast in responding -
http://support.fssdev.com/Main/Default.aspx



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Old September 18th 14, 05:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Charlie
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Default Failure to copy to second disk

On 9/16/2014 9:23 PM, Ken wrote:
I am using Windows 7 Premium, and have that operating system on two
different computers. I use a program called Casper 7 to clone the boot
hard drives to a spare so that if I had a crash I would not lose
everything. On the laptop, the program copies the data from the C:
partition without a hitch. On the desktop I get a failure when doing
so. It says: "The disk you were saving to or the disk used for
temporary files is full. Free some space on this disk and try again, or
save to a different disk." The program suggests that it might be the
Anti Virus program (McAfee) or the Firewall (McAfee) that is preventing
the transfer. McAfee is installed on both computers and it is the same
version. I have turned off both on the desktop and it still refuses to
make the copy to the clone disk. If I boot into Safe Mode on the
desktop computer, the software can do the transfer.

From this I figure that something is loading in Windows that is
preventing the transfer and giving the error message. I looked to see
if I could spot something that was loading that could account for the
difference, but did not see anything.

Does anyone have any ideas what the cause of the error message and
failure to copy could be? I looked at the target hard drive and
everything looks OK. Again if I clone in Safe Mode the target drive
boots just fine without any messages.


This can occur when there is not enough free space on C: (boot disk) or
in the reserved partition. VSS not running can also cause problems.
I've had instances when Linux based utilities booted from a memory stick
or CD was the only "simple" way out.

One of my desktops does not have the reserve partition, and the windows
7 pro system somewhere identifies itself as a restored or recovered
install. This started as a result of a clone without the reserved
partition to an SSD.
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Old September 18th 14, 05:29 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken[_8_]
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Default Failure to copy to second disk

Charlie wrote:
On 9/16/2014 9:23 PM, Ken wrote:
I am using Windows 7 Premium, and have that operating system on two
different computers. I use a program called Casper 7 to clone the boot
hard drives to a spare so that if I had a crash I would not lose
everything. On the laptop, the program copies the data from the C:
partition without a hitch. On the desktop I get a failure when doing
so. It says: "The disk you were saving to or the disk used for
temporary files is full. Free some space on this disk and try again, or
save to a different disk." The program suggests that it might be the
Anti Virus program (McAfee) or the Firewall (McAfee) that is preventing
the transfer. McAfee is installed on both computers and it is the same
version. I have turned off both on the desktop and it still refuses to
make the copy to the clone disk. If I boot into Safe Mode on the
desktop computer, the software can do the transfer.

From this I figure that something is loading in Windows that is
preventing the transfer and giving the error message. I looked to see
if I could spot something that was loading that could account for the
difference, but did not see anything.

Does anyone have any ideas what the cause of the error message and
failure to copy could be? I looked at the target hard drive and
everything looks OK. Again if I clone in Safe Mode the target drive
boots just fine without any messages.


This can occur when there is not enough free space on C: (boot disk) or
in the reserved partition. VSS not running can also cause problems.
I've had instances when Linux based utilities booted from a memory stick
or CD was the only "simple" way out.

One of my desktops does not have the reserve partition, and the windows
7 pro system somewhere identifies itself as a restored or recovered
install. This started as a result of a clone without the reserved
partition to an SSD.


I started VSS, it had been set to Manual. Now it is automatic. Perhaps
that was the problem? Thanks.
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Old September 18th 14, 07:36 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Failure to copy to second disk

Ken wrote:
Charlie wrote:
On 9/16/2014 9:23 PM, Ken wrote:
I am using Windows 7 Premium, and have that operating system on two
different computers. I use a program called Casper 7 to clone the boot
hard drives to a spare so that if I had a crash I would not lose
everything. On the laptop, the program copies the data from the C:
partition without a hitch. On the desktop I get a failure when doing
so. It says: "The disk you were saving to or the disk used for
temporary files is full. Free some space on this disk and try again, or
save to a different disk." The program suggests that it might be the
Anti Virus program (McAfee) or the Firewall (McAfee) that is preventing
the transfer. McAfee is installed on both computers and it is the same
version. I have turned off both on the desktop and it still refuses to
make the copy to the clone disk. If I boot into Safe Mode on the
desktop computer, the software can do the transfer.

From this I figure that something is loading in Windows that is
preventing the transfer and giving the error message. I looked to see
if I could spot something that was loading that could account for the
difference, but did not see anything.

Does anyone have any ideas what the cause of the error message and
failure to copy could be? I looked at the target hard drive and
everything looks OK. Again if I clone in Safe Mode the target drive
boots just fine without any messages.


This can occur when there is not enough free space on C: (boot disk) or
in the reserved partition. VSS not running can also cause problems.
I've had instances when Linux based utilities booted from a memory stick
or CD was the only "simple" way out.

One of my desktops does not have the reserve partition, and the windows
7 pro system somewhere identifies itself as a restored or recovered
install. This started as a result of a clone without the reserved
partition to an SSD.


I started VSS, it had been set to Manual. Now it is automatic. Perhaps
that was the problem? Thanks.


A test will tell you soon enough.

There is more on the topic of VSS here. I've never had a problem
with space, with respect to backing up stuff. So however much space
is allocated, it seems to be enough. I would have thought where the
VSS space would get burned up, is if you were writing to the volume
while at the same time, backing it up or cloning it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_Snapshot_Service

For System Restore function (restore points), I turn off all
partitions except C:, as I do not want them tracked by System Restore.
The purpose of System Restore points, is easy reversion of things like
software installs, if absolutely necessary.

Paul
 




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