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Old May 20th 15, 02:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
OldGuy
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I need a personal cloud drive that will appear as a mapped drive on any
PC.

I purchased a Western Digital (WD) My Cloud thinking that it would do
the job (according to the sales person) but it does NOT.

On the LAN I can map it to a drive letter but remotely WD has no way to
do this according to WD tech support. Copy / Paste is how files are
accessed remotely.
Seems to me that they should be able to write code to permit mapping on
the remote PC. After all Google Drive does this.

So why not use Google Drive you ask? Because the data storage is on
their server. With My Cloud, the data is no my local HDD that I can
erase, physically move and totally control. On data passes through the
WD server and that data is totally under my control security-wise.
Also, I have no control over the speed at which Google Drive puts the
file dropped on the mapped Google drive folder to when it is available
remotely. Also, the size of the Google drive is limited.

Does anyone make a personal cloud drive that can be mapped to a drive
letter on any PC?

Or, as a last resort, is there any other means of getting LAN data
remotely quickly disregarding the size limitation? For the moment,
lets not respond with using my IP address and going back through the
router or something like TeamViewer since I need a mapped drive letter
for other application to access data like it was local.

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Old May 21st 15, 03:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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aka Network Attached Storage.

a NAS is local on a LAN.
I want access from anywhere with the afore-stated requirements.

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Old May 21st 15, 07:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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OldGuy wrote:
aka Network Attached Storage.


a NAS is local on a LAN.
I want access from anywhere with the afore-stated requirements.


I'm sure you can find an article somewhere, on how to set it up.

http://docs.qnap.com/nas/3.8/en/inde...from_the_i.htm

Paul
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Old May 21st 15, 01:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
David H. Lipman
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From: "OldGuy"

I need a personal cloud drive that will appear as a mapped drive on any
PC.

I purchased a Western Digital (WD) My Cloud thinking that it would do the
job (according to the sales person) but it does NOT.

On the LAN I can map it to a drive letter but remotely WD has no way to do
this according to WD tech support. Copy / Paste is how files are accessed
remotely.
Seems to me that they should be able to write code to permit mapping on
the remote PC. After all Google Drive does this.

So why not use Google Drive you ask? Because the data storage is on their
server. With My Cloud, the data is no my local HDD that I can erase,
physically move and totally control. On data passes through the WD server
and that data is totally under my control security-wise. Also, I have no
control over the speed at which Google Drive puts the file dropped on the
mapped Google drive folder to when it is available remotely. Also, the
size of the Google drive is limited.

Does anyone make a personal cloud drive that can be mapped to a drive
letter on any PC?

Or, as a last resort, is there any other means of getting LAN data
remotely quickly disregarding the size limitation? For the moment, lets
not respond with using my IP address and going back through the router or
something like TeamViewer since I need a mapped drive letter for other
application to access data like it was local.

TIA


Yes, it does.

You just couldn't understand what to do and you didn't even want to discuss
it.

If you couldn't do WebDAV on the WD My Cloud, don't expect another vendor
solution to be any different.


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Old May 21st 15, 02:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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From: "Wolf K"

On 2015-05-20 10:13 PM, OldGuy wrote:
aka Network Attached Storage.


a NAS is local on a LAN.
I want access from anywhere with the afore-stated requirements.



OK, you want remote access. AFAIK, any shared drive on a LAN can be
remotely accessed through remote access of any of the computers on the
LAN. Seems that's incorrect, if so please correct and explain.

Thanks,


He does not understand Remote Access, Remote Control, RDP or WebDAV.



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Old May 21st 15, 04:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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I called Seagate tech support and they also currently have no way to
access their personal cloud drive remotely as a drive letter (mapped
drive) on the remote PC.
PCs on my LAN can access the NAS as a drive letter; i.e. it can be
mapped to a drive letter.
They also have an app that allows direct access on a smart phone.

If Google-Drive can do it so cold WD or Seagate if they wanted to write
the code. Pretty sad situation.

The difference between Google-Drive and this Personal Could storage is
that I can have any size Personal Cloud drive and access is nearly
immediately. My data is in my home.
Google drive is limited in size and access speed is however Google want
to provide it. My data is on their server.

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Old May 21st 15, 09:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Thu, 21 May 2015 08:47:37 -0700, OldGuy wrote:

I called Seagate tech support and they also currently have no way to
access their personal cloud drive remotely as a drive letter (mapped
drive) on the remote PC.


You have PCs running at home. If *they* can access it as a drive letter,
then your task can be accomplished by accessing the PC remotely. Once you're
on the LAN (from your remote location), presto, there's your mapped drive
letter, just as you saw it when you were using that PC at home.

Teamviewer or Remote Desktop are probably my current favorites. Logmein is
another popular choice.

Dropbox can also be made to work, or FTP or HTTP, even. These suggestions
barely scratch the surface. There are lots of ways to access your data
remotely.

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Old June 12th 15, 02:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
No_Name
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On Wed, 20 May 2015 06:34:34 -0700, OldGuy wrote:

I need a personal cloud drive that will appear as a mapped drive on any
PC.


I hate to even ask, but what is a cloud drive? The reason I hate asking,
is because I have googled "cloud" and could not understand any of it,
because it's written in a manner that only a computer geek would
understand. The whole concept of "cloud" makes no sense to me, and now
we have a "cloud drive"?????

If a hard drive is made for a PC type computer, it should work on that
computer and have a valid drive letter. Of course if it's a drive for an
Apple computer, it wont work on a PC. I was not aware of any other type
of drive.

Maybe cloud drives are only made for weather reporters (meterorologists)
and those who maintain weather.com

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Old June 12th 15, 02:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
pjp[_10_]
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In article ,
says...

On Wed, 20 May 2015 06:34:34 -0700, OldGuy wrote:

I need a personal cloud drive that will appear as a mapped drive on any
PC.


I hate to even ask, but what is a cloud drive? The reason I hate asking,
is because I have googled "cloud" and could not understand any of it,
because it's written in a manner that only a computer geek would
understand. The whole concept of "cloud" makes no sense to me, and now
we have a "cloud drive"?????

If a hard drive is made for a PC type computer, it should work on that
computer and have a valid drive letter. Of course if it's a drive for an
Apple computer, it wont work on a PC. I was not aware of any other type
of drive.

Maybe cloud drives are only made for weather reporters (meterorologists)
and those who maintain weather.com


My idea for the meaning of cloud is very general. It basically means a
storage device you can access from anything you can use to connect to
the internet with. Big companies basically do his using arrays of hard
disks etc and charging some fee. Advantage is they look after
maintenance, backups etc. disadavanatage is that also means it can be
examined at any time by someone else, legally or not depepnding on
circumstance.

You can do the same thing yourself using your own hard disk. It's
relatively easy to get one working across your in-house ethernet but to
use it over the internet from any device will likely mean you're past a
novice geek or you use some third party app which again means possibly
susceptible to them also having a copy they can keep if desired for any
reason. BIGGEST WORRY THERE is US (and my own Canadian) government to my
way of thinking.

To me it's kinda like running a private ftp server and I did that years
ago for awhile. When I infrequently go away visiting I often set up
secondary home pc for me to access from afar.
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Old June 12th 15, 05:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:57:50 -0300, pjp
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 20 May 2015 06:34:34 -0700, OldGuy wrote:

I need a personal cloud drive that will appear as a mapped drive on any
PC.


I hate to even ask, but what is a cloud drive? The reason I hate asking,
is because I have googled "cloud" and could not understand any of it,
because it's written in a manner that only a computer geek would
understand. The whole concept of "cloud" makes no sense to me, and now
we have a "cloud drive"?????

If a hard drive is made for a PC type computer, it should work on that
computer and have a valid drive letter. Of course if it's a drive for an
Apple computer, it wont work on a PC. I was not aware of any other type
of drive.

Maybe cloud drives are only made for weather reporters (meterorologists)
and those who maintain weather.com


My idea for the meaning of cloud is very general. It basically means a
storage device you can access from anything you can use to connect to
the internet with. Big companies basically do his using arrays of hard
disks etc and charging some fee. Advantage is they look after
maintenance, backups etc. disadavanatage is that also means it can be
examined at any time by someone else, legally or not depepnding on
circumstance.

You can do the same thing yourself using your own hard disk. It's
relatively easy to get one working across your in-house ethernet but to
use it over the internet from any device will likely mean you're past a
novice geek or you use some third party app which again means possibly
susceptible to them also having a copy they can keep if desired for any
reason. BIGGEST WORRY THERE is US (and my own Canadian) government to my
way of thinking.

To me it's kinda like running a private ftp server and I did that years
ago for awhile. When I infrequently go away visiting I often set up
secondary home pc for me to access from afar.


This makes more sense than all the geek speak I tried to understand on
the web. I had a (sort of) idea it was a mass storage sort of thing. I
can see this useful for a large company, but not for a home user.
Granted, I recall several times I was travelling and had my laptop with
me, and wanted to hear a song stored on my home computer, or show
someone a photo on my home computer. But if this was really necessary, I
could copy everything from my home comp to a $50 external USB drive.

I would not even consider putting any valuable data on a mass storage
site, knowing anyone at that site could access it. Of course in my case,
neither my collection of oldies music nor my photos of my pets and
friends would be of any interest to others.

I have a real simple website. I have often created a folder on that site
that is hidden. In that hidden folder, I can put photos or anything else
that is only intended for people I invite to go there. I can also access
that myself when I am away from home and at a WIFI. The only limit is
the amount of data allowed on the website!

Now that I understand the meaning of "cloud", I still dont understand
what a "Cloud drive" is. Any drive has tp be attached to some sort of
computer, and that just makes it a *harddrive*!



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Old June 12th 15, 05:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Steve Hayes[_2_]
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 20:38:39 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 20 May 2015 06:34:34 -0700, OldGuy wrote:

I need a personal cloud drive that will appear as a mapped drive on any
PC.


I hate to even ask, but what is a cloud drive? The reason I hate asking,
is because I have googled "cloud" and could not understand any of it,
because it's written in a manner that only a computer geek would
understand. The whole concept of "cloud" makes no sense to me, and now
we have a "cloud drive"?????

If a hard drive is made for a PC type computer, it should work on that
computer and have a valid drive letter. Of course if it's a drive for an
Apple computer, it wont work on a PC. I was not aware of any other type
of drive.


A cloud in this sense is a bit like a "black box". You know what goes
in and what comes out, but you don't know, or need to know, what goes
on inside.

So a "cloud drive" is on a remote server somewhere, but you don't
know, or need to know where. All you need to know is that you put your
data there and get it back when you need it.

Just as you can assign a drive letter to a network drive on a LAN,
without necessarily knowing where the physical server is, so you can
assign a drive letter to a cloud drive on a WAN, without necessarily
knowing where the server is physically located.




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Old June 12th 15, 06:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
pjp[_10_]
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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:57:50 -0300, pjp
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 20 May 2015 06:34:34 -0700, OldGuy wrote:

I need a personal cloud drive that will appear as a mapped drive on any
PC.

I hate to even ask, but what is a cloud drive? The reason I hate asking,
is because I have googled "cloud" and could not understand any of it,
because it's written in a manner that only a computer geek would
understand. The whole concept of "cloud" makes no sense to me, and now
we have a "cloud drive"?????

If a hard drive is made for a PC type computer, it should work on that
computer and have a valid drive letter. Of course if it's a drive for an
Apple computer, it wont work on a PC. I was not aware of any other type
of drive.

Maybe cloud drives are only made for weather reporters (meterorologists)
and those who maintain weather.com


My idea for the meaning of cloud is very general. It basically means a
storage device you can access from anything you can use to connect to
the internet with. Big companies basically do his using arrays of hard
disks etc and charging some fee. Advantage is they look after
maintenance, backups etc. disadavanatage is that also means it can be
examined at any time by someone else, legally or not depepnding on
circumstance.

You can do the same thing yourself using your own hard disk. It's
relatively easy to get one working across your in-house ethernet but to
use it over the internet from any device will likely mean you're past a
novice geek or you use some third party app which again means possibly
susceptible to them also having a copy they can keep if desired for any
reason. BIGGEST WORRY THERE is US (and my own Canadian) government to my
way of thinking.

To me it's kinda like running a private ftp server and I did that years
ago for awhile. When I infrequently go away visiting I often set up
secondary home pc for me to access from afar.


This makes more sense than all the geek speak I tried to understand on
the web. I had a (sort of) idea it was a mass storage sort of thing. I
can see this useful for a large company, but not for a home user.
Granted, I recall several times I was travelling and had my laptop with


I suspect (don't own one or even have looked at one ... yet) it simply
is like a networked printer in that regard, e.g. it automatically gets
an ip address from your router's (presumably) dhcp's server and has
enough logic in it to act like a shared disk drive etc. (unsure exactly
on this point).
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Old June 12th 15, 11:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:17:24 -0300, pjp
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:57:50 -0300, pjp
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 20 May 2015 06:34:34 -0700, OldGuy wrote:

I need a personal cloud drive that will appear as a mapped drive on any
PC.

I hate to even ask, but what is a cloud drive? The reason I hate asking,
is because I have googled "cloud" and could not understand any of it,
because it's written in a manner that only a computer geek would
understand. The whole concept of "cloud" makes no sense to me, and now
we have a "cloud drive"?????

If a hard drive is made for a PC type computer, it should work on that
computer and have a valid drive letter. Of course if it's a drive for an
Apple computer, it wont work on a PC. I was not aware of any other type
of drive.

Maybe cloud drives are only made for weather reporters (meterorologists)
and those who maintain weather.com

My idea for the meaning of cloud is very general. It basically means a
storage device you can access from anything you can use to connect to
the internet with. Big companies basically do his using arrays of hard
disks etc and charging some fee. Advantage is they look after
maintenance, backups etc. disadavanatage is that also means it can be
examined at any time by someone else, legally or not depepnding on
circumstance.

You can do the same thing yourself using your own hard disk. It's
relatively easy to get one working across your in-house ethernet but to
use it over the internet from any device will likely mean you're past a
novice geek or you use some third party app which again means possibly
susceptible to them also having a copy they can keep if desired for any
reason. BIGGEST WORRY THERE is US (and my own Canadian) government to my
way of thinking.

To me it's kinda like running a private ftp server and I did that years
ago for awhile. When I infrequently go away visiting I often set up
secondary home pc for me to access from afar.


This makes more sense than all the geek speak I tried to understand on
the web. I had a (sort of) idea it was a mass storage sort of thing. I
can see this useful for a large company, but not for a home user.
Granted, I recall several times I was travelling and had my laptop with


I suspect (don't own one or even have looked at one ... yet) it simply
is like a networked printer in that regard, e.g. it automatically gets
an ip address from your router's (presumably) dhcp's server and has
enough logic in it to act like a shared disk drive etc. (unsure exactly
on this point).


Ok, that makes sense (I guess). Why anyone needs such a thing dont make
much sense to me though. But it seems that the entire world of computers
has gone crazy with too many gadgets, and particularly too many
satellite (phone) devices connected to the internet.

I think this is why I have lost interest in computers. They used to be
fairly simple, and had definite rules to follow whereas everything
plugged together and ended up with a useful device that could be used to
do many useful things. I used to love playing with the early computers,
the hardware, and Dos, and Windows 3.x and 9.x. Then came the age where
every damn thing has to be networked, which grew into the massive mess
of crap we now call the internet, which is little more than a toy now,
and dominated by facebook, which is the lowest level of worthlessness,
and should be called the internet's garbage dump!

I cant say I am getting rid of computers, because I still need them for
word processing, maintaining my daily list of todos, storing and editing
photos, listening to music and watching videos, and more. But all of
this is personal and private, and does not need to be connected to any
network, including the internet. I can do all of these things with
Win98se or XP, and if I'm not connected to the internet, I dont have to
worry about getting viruses and spyware, as long as I am careful with
anything imported by floppy, CD, or flash drive.

Hell, I could do most of my needs on an old 286 PC running Windows 3.1,
but I wont go back that far. Win98, Win2000 and XP are all I will ever
need.

Seems that ever since around 2005, computers have become devices to
drive people insane, while the computers themselves have gradually lost
their usefulness.
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Old June 12th 15, 12:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On 12/06/2015 05:21, wrote:

Now that I understand the meaning of "cloud", I still dont understand
what a "Cloud drive" is. Any drive has tp be attached to some sort of
computer, and that just makes it a *harddrive*!


But the point is that it's not *directly* connected to any of your
computers - but rather to your network router.

I don't know whether you currently access data one computer's hard drive
from another computer on your network. If so, you will be familiar with
mapping a network drive so that a drive (or just a folder) on one
computer gets assigned a drive letter on another computer.

A network drive works in a similar way - except that *all* your
computers need to map to it because it's not directly connected to any
of them.

My understanding of the "cloud" bit is if you also want the contents (or
parts thereof) of your network drive to be accessible from anywhere in
the world via the internet - rather than being restricted to computers
directly connected to your domestic network. You don't *have* to do that
if you don't want to, in which case - in my book at any rate - the drive
is just a network drive rather than a cloud drive.

If you *do* make it accessible from elsewhere, you need to give a lot of
thought to security - and also be aware that the speed of access will be
at your internet connection's upload speed - which may be pretty slow
unless you've got a fibre connection or somesuch.
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