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Old June 15th 15, 12:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Dee[_6_]
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I have XP SP3 (not Media Center) and I'd like to edit several .mts video files.
Movie Maker 5.1 can't open that format. I'd rather not convert the video, if
possible.

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to do this?

Thanks.
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Old June 15th 15, 01:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Dee wrote:
I have XP SP3 (not Media Center) and I'd like to edit several .mts video files.
Movie Maker 5.1 can't open that format. I'd rather not convert the video, if
possible.

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to do this?

Thanks.


Wikipedia says it is a container format (like AVI or Apple Quicktime MOV
or Matroska MKV is a container format). It can be sourced a couple of
ways, from BluRay discs, or from an AVCHD camera. Different CODECs are
involved with the source (not that this matters all that much).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.m2ts

You should do a site search against videohelp.com. In your
favorite search engine, try

site:videohelp.com mts editor

and you can find a link like this.

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/3...ree-MTS-editor

"I'm trying out Sony Vegas Pro 12 I believe it is on a friends
computer. So far it's fairly easy to use.. I imported MTS files,
I added a title and a logo and a transition and fade in and out."

For disposition to optical media, that is "Authoring" and
at one time, authoring BluRay looked pretty bleak. I don't
know if that has changed or not. So you might end up
buying one tool to edit the chapters, and another tool
to assemble them if you plan on distributing for playback
on standalone players. And if you intended to distribute
some other way, staying in MTS might be a liability.

If you intended to stay in that format for the entire
project, you'd probably want a "frame accurate editor".
Editors can work on video two ways. They could do operations
at the end of a GOP, on an i-frame. Whereas with a "frame
accurate editor", it can edit on any arbitrary frame
(in the middle of a GOP). And implicit in this (the part
you really want), is that the video doesn't need to be
re-compressed later. That's if you were snipping or joining.
Even a special effect might be a joining and not need re-compression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_pictures

You will probably end up paying money for an editor,
but the nice thing is, trial versions are available
for a limited time period. Some will apply a watermark
to the output, so you can't get a "free lunch", but at
least you'll be able to see whether they can open
and save the video, and you'll also see whether there
is a six hour delay while it recompresses, or it is
done in mere minutes.

If you need the names of some video editors, videohelp.com
has a page for that, but you can also find them on
Wikipedia. The videohelp list is pretty thin.

http://www.videohelp.com/software/se...itors-h264-avc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...iting_software

Now, one of them I just looked at, could *import* MTS,
but not *export* it. Which makes the tool rather
useless for your purpose. And also implies it isn't interested
in doing frame accurate edits either (recompress to new format).

This is an example of a more expensive product. So
now we're headed out of the "$99 editor" range.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan1...ey-edius-6.htm

I think I'd just give Sony Vegas a try first, as it's more
likely to be affordable. There is probably more than one
"trim level" of Vegas, requiring a selection before you
trial one of them.

Paul
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Old June 16th 15, 02:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Dee[_6_]
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Default editing .mts video

Paul wrote in :

Dee wrote:
I have XP SP3 (not Media Center) and I'd like to edit several
.mts video files. Movie Maker 5.1 can't open that format. I'd
rather not convert the video, if possible.

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to do this?

Thanks.


Wikipedia says it is a container format (like AVI or Apple
Quicktime MOV or Matroska MKV is a container format). It can be
sourced a couple of ways, from BluRay discs, or from an AVCHD
camera. Different CODECs are involved with the source (not that
this matters all that much).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.m2ts

You should do a site search against videohelp.com. In your
favorite search engine, try

site:videohelp.com mts editor

and you can find a link like this.

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/3...ree-MTS-editor

"I'm trying out Sony Vegas Pro 12 I believe it is on a friends
computer. So far it's fairly easy to use.. I imported MTS
files, I added a title and a logo and a transition and fade
in and out."

For disposition to optical media, that is "Authoring" and
at one time, authoring BluRay looked pretty bleak. I don't
know if that has changed or not. So you might end up
buying one tool to edit the chapters, and another tool
to assemble them if you plan on distributing for playback
on standalone players. And if you intended to distribute
some other way, staying in MTS might be a liability.

If you intended to stay in that format for the entire
project, you'd probably want a "frame accurate editor".
Editors can work on video two ways. They could do operations
at the end of a GOP, on an i-frame. Whereas with a "frame
accurate editor", it can edit on any arbitrary frame
(in the middle of a GOP). And implicit in this (the part
you really want), is that the video doesn't need to be
re-compressed later. That's if you were snipping or joining.
Even a special effect might be a joining and not need
re-compression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_pictures

You will probably end up paying money for an editor,
but the nice thing is, trial versions are available
for a limited time period. Some will apply a watermark
to the output, so you can't get a "free lunch", but at
least you'll be able to see whether they can open
and save the video, and you'll also see whether there
is a six hour delay while it recompresses, or it is
done in mere minutes.

If you need the names of some video editors, videohelp.com
has a page for that, but you can also find them on
Wikipedia. The videohelp list is pretty thin.

http://www.videohelp.com/software/se...itors-h264-avc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...iting_software

Now, one of them I just looked at, could *import* MTS,
but not *export* it. Which makes the tool rather
useless for your purpose. And also implies it isn't interested
in doing frame accurate edits either (recompress to new format).

This is an example of a more expensive product. So
now we're headed out of the "$99 editor" range.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan1...valley-edius-6
.htm

I think I'd just give Sony Vegas a try first, as it's more
likely to be affordable. There is probably more than one
"trim level" of Vegas, requiring a selection before you
trial one of them.

Paul


Thanks for your response. It looks like Sony Vegas requires a
minimum of Win 7. It's also $600, but that's a moot point ;-) Grass
Valley Edius also requires at least Win 7.

All I want to do is clip a minute or so from the beginning of a video
and a minute or so from the end. Nothing fancy.

Dee


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Old June 16th 15, 02:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Dee wrote:


Thanks for your response. It looks like Sony Vegas requires a
minimum of Win 7. It's also $600, but that's a moot point ;-) Grass
Valley Edius also requires at least Win 7.

All I want to do is clip a minute or so from the beginning of a video
and a minute or so from the end. Nothing fancy.

Dee


Go through the list for the "clip and snip". Make
sure the product description, matches the scenarios
in the Wikipedia MTS/M2TS article (off a BluRay, or
from an AVCHD camera). Technically, the content could
be quite different from those. For some cameras,
the camera comes with its own software to handle
the format.

http://www.videohelp.com/software/se...itors-h264-avc

As for Vegas, it's a family of software, ranging from sub-$100
to the expensive one you found. I'm not a movie person, but I
know that a few people use this stuff. You will need to read
the product descriptions carefully, then see if a trial
version is available for testing. And while testing you
can see if it is "frame accurate, no compression", "clip
to the nearest GOP", or "makes a big mess and recompresses everything".

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegassoftware

Paul
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Old June 16th 15, 07:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co
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Default editing .mts video

Dee wrote:
Paul wrote in :

Dee wrote:
I have XP SP3 (not Media Center) and I'd like to edit several
.mts video files. Movie Maker 5.1 can't open that format. I'd
rather not convert the video, if possible.

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to do this?

Thanks.


Wikipedia says it is a container format (like AVI or Apple
Quicktime MOV or Matroska MKV is a container format). It can be
sourced a couple of ways, from BluRay discs, or from an AVCHD
camera. Different CODECs are involved with the source (not that
this matters all that much).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.m2ts

You should do a site search against videohelp.com. In your
favorite search engine, try

site:videohelp.com mts editor

and you can find a link like this.

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/3...ree-MTS-editor

"I'm trying out Sony Vegas Pro 12 I believe it is on a friends
computer. So far it's fairly easy to use.. I imported MTS
files, I added a title and a logo and a transition and fade
in and out."

For disposition to optical media, that is "Authoring" and
at one time, authoring BluRay looked pretty bleak. I don't
know if that has changed or not. So you might end up
buying one tool to edit the chapters, and another tool
to assemble them if you plan on distributing for playback
on standalone players. And if you intended to distribute
some other way, staying in MTS might be a liability.

If you intended to stay in that format for the entire
project, you'd probably want a "frame accurate editor".
Editors can work on video two ways. They could do operations
at the end of a GOP, on an i-frame. Whereas with a "frame
accurate editor", it can edit on any arbitrary frame
(in the middle of a GOP). And implicit in this (the part
you really want), is that the video doesn't need to be
re-compressed later. That's if you were snipping or joining.
Even a special effect might be a joining and not need
re-compression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_pictures

You will probably end up paying money for an editor,
but the nice thing is, trial versions are available
for a limited time period. Some will apply a watermark
to the output, so you can't get a "free lunch", but at
least you'll be able to see whether they can open
and save the video, and you'll also see whether there
is a six hour delay while it recompresses, or it is
done in mere minutes.

If you need the names of some video editors, videohelp.com
has a page for that, but you can also find them on
Wikipedia. The videohelp list is pretty thin.

http://www.videohelp.com/software/se...itors-h264-avc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...iting_software

Now, one of them I just looked at, could *import* MTS,
but not *export* it. Which makes the tool rather
useless for your purpose. And also implies it isn't interested
in doing frame accurate edits either (recompress to new format).

This is an example of a more expensive product. So
now we're headed out of the "$99 editor" range.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan1...valley-edius-6
.htm

I think I'd just give Sony Vegas a try first, as it's more
likely to be affordable. There is probably more than one
"trim level" of Vegas, requiring a selection before you
trial one of them.

Paul


Thanks for your response. It looks like Sony Vegas requires a
minimum of Win 7. It's also $600, but that's a moot point ;-) Grass
Valley Edius also requires at least Win 7.

All I want to do is clip a minute or so from the beginning of a video
and a minute or so from the end. Nothing fancy.

Dee


If that's all you need, you'd probably just need a video cutter, and not a
full featured video editor.

I put mts video cutter into Google, and saw a few possibilities (several
free) that you might want to check out. e.g: TS Sniper, Free Video Cutter,
AVCHD MTS Cutter, etc). Alternatively, you could expand your search to a
MTS video editor, but those won't be free (although there seem to be some
that are more affordable than Sony, but not as full featured, say like from
Wondershare, or whatever).

And as Paul said, videohelp.com is a great reference website on all things
video. I don't have any experience with MTS or camera video, so I can't
tell you more on that (I just do simple edits on h264 mp4 videos, etc).


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Old June 17th 15, 02:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co
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Default editing .mts video

Addendum:

Possibly add SolveigMM Video Splitter to the list of potential candidates.
I've used it on mp4 files (.h264) to good advantage. It's not very
expensive, either ($50), and you can try out the demo or trial.

http://www.solveigmm.com/en/products/video-splitter/



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Old June 17th 15, 02:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Dee[_6_]
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Default editing .mts video

"Bill in Co" wrote in
:

If that's all you need, you'd probably just need a video cutter,
and not a full featured video editor.

I put mts video cutter into Google, and saw a few possibilities
(several free) that you might want to check out. e.g: TS Sniper,
Free Video Cutter, AVCHD MTS Cutter, etc). Alternatively, you
could expand your search to a MTS video editor, but those won't be
free (although there seem to be some that are more affordable than
Sony, but not as full featured, say like from Wondershare, or
whatever).

And as Paul said, videohelp.com is a great reference website on
all things video. I don't have any experience with MTS or camera
video, so I can't tell you more on that (I just do simple edits on
h264 mp4 videos, etc).


I didn't know there was such a thing as a video cutter. I will check
these out. Thanks!

Dee
  #8  
Old June 17th 15, 07:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co
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Default editing .mts video

Dee wrote:
"Bill in Co" wrote in
:

If that's all you need, you'd probably just need a video cutter,
and not a full featured video editor.

I put mts video cutter into Google, and saw a few possibilities
(several free) that you might want to check out. e.g: TS Sniper,
Free Video Cutter, AVCHD MTS Cutter, etc). Alternatively, you
could expand your search to a MTS video editor, but those won't be
free (although there seem to be some that are more affordable than
Sony, but not as full featured, say like from Wondershare, or
whatever).

And as Paul said, videohelp.com is a great reference website on
all things video. I don't have any experience with MTS or camera
video, so I can't tell you more on that (I just do simple edits on
h264 mp4 videos, etc).


I didn't know there was such a thing as a video cutter. I will check
these out. Thanks!

Dee


Also known as video splitters (might help you in some searches).

Also, be sure to check out SolveigMM Video Splitter, which I think I
mentioned last time. Although it's not free, it's quite affordable, and
I'm betting it might be a better option than the freebies. I've used it
with good success on MP4 files to cut and trim them.


 




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