O.T. Ammonia

I am looking to buy some ammonia cleaner.

The sites I have visited are confusing as to the % of the ammonia content.

I have some Parade Ammonia, but I can not read the label to see the % of ammonia.

I went to walmart.com, but the descriptions are "tricky"

Can someone help me ?

Thanks,
Andy

Andy wrote:
I am looking to buy some ammonia cleaner.

The sites I have visited are confusing as to the % of the ammonia content.

I have some Parade Ammonia, but I can not read the label to see the % of
ammonia.

I went to walmart.com, but the descriptions are "tricky"

Can someone help me ?

Thanks,
Andy

yawn

What I would do is this.
Get all the information off the bottle.
Google the MSDS for the product name.
e.g. search for "MSDS for xyz cleaner"

The MSDS should give you precise information for everything except
proprietary ingredients.

MSDS = Material Safety Data Sheets

Andy wrote:
I am looking to buy some ammonia cleaner.

The sites I have visited are confusing as to the % of the ammonia content.

I have some Parade Ammonia, but I can not read the label to see the % of ammonia.

I went to walmart.com, but the descriptions are "tricky"

Can someone help me ?

Thanks,
Andy


Since it appears to be no longer available as concentrate
at retail, we must assume it is on a "watch list".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Otley_iowa.JPG

Many innocuous chemicals (stuff you could buy when you were
a kid), are now off limits without commercial paperwork.
It's popular to mix surfactants, soap, polish, with ammonia,
making it useless for even things like window cleaning.
(Lots of residue left behind, doesn't clean worth a damn.)

A thread here, suggests concentrate is sold at 10%.

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums...-156038-2.html

I can tell you the ammonia bottle I have, I will not
be able to find that brand at retail the next time.
I make my own window cleaner, and one bottle of
concentrate lasts for years.

And a general comment - it seems to be some sort of
tradition to not list the concentration. (My bottle has
nothing other than a UPC code, for documentation.)
Water will hold it at 30% at room temperature (saturated).
As the water gets warmer, it holds less of it (boils off,
do not breathe). And that's why the concentrate at the store
cannot be too pure - the bottles have to tolerate
some range of temperature extremes, and do it safely.

When they teach chemistry in grade school, a popular experiment
is to place ammonia gas in a tube, invert the tube over
a water bath, and watch as the ammonia gas is dissolved
in the water. It is so soluble, the inverted tube
pulls water up from the bath below, until the tube
is chock full of water (practically no air gap at the top).
That means all the ammonia gas was absorbed, and the
vacuum created, helps pull the water up in the tube.
(There is a proper technical description for what
is happening, and that's not it. But that description
will appeal to those who have seen that demo, and
they might remember.) Our chem teacher did all sorts
of stupid stuff, and that was one of the safer experiments.
No fires or anything, like one other day.

Now, this is a different experiment, but the same idea.

http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclo...xperiment.html

What's impressive about these experiments, is the speed with
which the water moves. As not only is ammonia gas really
soluble, but it goes into solution very quickly.

We were also taught in school, that ammonia gas is
made by the Haber process. But the Haber process
is too extreme, to be running production in your
basement.

Paul

| And a general comment - it seems to be some sort of
| tradition to not list the concentration.

I've noticed that rules seem to be getting even more
lax. Recently I saw bleach with no percentage of
sodium hypochlorite listed. (At my local lumber yard. When
I pointed it out to the clerks they were less than intrigued.
I don't buy bleach there anymore.

I use bleach mostly for things
like cleaning mildew before painting. The popular brands
of "germicidal beach" seem to be 8.25%. There are also
brands in the 4% range. And now there are brands that
don't say what's in them at all. All bleach I ever saw used
to be 6.25%. So there can be a big difference. One gallon
of bleach may be equal to 2 gallons of another brand,
and if a bottle doesn't say what's in it then one has to
assume that it could be 1/3 or even 1/4 strength. Maybe
it's not even sodium hypochlorite solution.

I also use non-sudsing ammonia for a lot of things:
household cleaning, removing algae. I find that with bleach,
ammonia, TSP and dish soap, there's really no need to
buy overpriced cleaning products at all. Tilex: bleach
solution. Windex: As near as I can tell it's alcohol solution
with a breakthrough secret ingredient known as "ammonia".

A friend who once had a window washing business preferred
plain water with a tiny bit of TSP. His second choice was a
tiny bit of ammonia. His 3rd choice was just plain water.
Apparently other things streak. I've never really had
the knack for getting windows *really* clean, myself, with
any method.

Mayayana wrote:


A friend who once had a window washing business preferred
plain water with a tiny bit of TSP. His second choice was a
tiny bit of ammonia. His 3rd choice was just plain water.
Apparently other things streak. I've never really had
the knack for getting windows *really* clean, myself, with
any method.

One aspect of window cleaning I find that is cool, is
initially the window looks clean, then you allow several
days to pass, and dust starts sticking to parts of the
window with a little residue on them. So that your
streaks and mistakes are magnified for you.

Once in a while, I can get a single window clean with
Bon Ami (foam cleaner). But even that has let me down
on other windows.

http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/in...kgy/R-I4530537

Paul

On 10 Jun 2015, Andy wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

I am looking to buy some ammonia cleaner.

Your trolls are getting more idiotic by the minute, even as their rate
is increasing.

In message , Andy
writes:

I am looking to buy some ammonia cleaner.
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Why - is your ammonia dirty?
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On 11 Jun 2015, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

In message
, Andy
writes:

I am looking to buy some ammonia cleaner.

Why - is your ammonia dirty?

Ha! Good one!