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  #31  
Old October 30th 14, 10:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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Default Windows 8 and 8.1 Sucks, but Windows 10

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:03:45 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

Is that why about 94% of the world uses Windows?

No, that's because most people effectively have no choice.

They would if only they realised how easy it was to build a PC
yourself, or shop online for something different, but most wouldn't
even consider it, so they go to a computer shop to buy something ready
built. Unless you want to pay Apple prices Windows is all there is.

Rod.


For you and me it's easy. I've built four machines. The last one was
basically bolt in place and plug'n'play. But even assembling Ikea
furniture is too difficult for most people.


I'm not so sure that assembling Ikea furniture is easier than building a
computer. I'd almost reverse your sentence above :-)

I've done both successfully and never failed at either, so that's based
on my own experience.


Funny you should say that. I'm using a home built computer while
sitting at an Ikea table. Even the chair I'm sitting on was supplied
in pieces and had to be assembled. Nothing bad has happened to any of
it yet, so I must have got most of it right.

Rod.
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  #32  
Old October 31st 14, 12:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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Default Windows 8 and 8.1 Sucks, but Windows 10

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:43:47 +0000, Roderick Stewart wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:03:45 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

Is that why about 94% of the world uses Windows?

No, that's because most people effectively have no choice.

They would if only they realised how easy it was to build a PC
yourself, or shop online for something different, but most wouldn't
even consider it, so they go to a computer shop to buy something ready
built. Unless you want to pay Apple prices Windows is all there is.

Rod.

For you and me it's easy. I've built four machines. The last one was
basically bolt in place and plug'n'play. But even assembling Ikea
furniture is too difficult for most people.


I'm not so sure that assembling Ikea furniture is easier than building a
computer. I'd almost reverse your sentence above :-)

I've done both successfully and never failed at either, so that's based
on my own experience.


Funny you should say that. I'm using a home built computer while
sitting at an Ikea table. Even the chair I'm sitting on was supplied
in pieces and had to be assembled. Nothing bad has happened to any of
it yet, so I must have got most of it right.

Rod.


Yeah, but which was easier to put together, the computer or the
furniture?

Just playing - feel free not to answer :-)

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  #33  
Old October 31st 14, 02:09 AM posted to alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Windows 8 and 8.1 Sucks, but Windows 10

On 10/29/14 5:41 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:50:03 -0400, Boolworm Cowboy
wrote:


snip

You go to any computer retail outlet, and you cannot find a preloaded Linux computer available for sale.



True, but since it's free to download and install Linux, it hardly
matters. It's quick, easy, and free to change from Windows to Linux if
Linux is what you want.


But it does make a difference.

1. The average computer user doesn't know Linux from the polar ice cap.
And since they don't, they'd never even think about installing it. I
say "Linux", and they say "What's that?"

2. The average computer user can't even reinstall Windows (or even OS
X) much of the time, so whey would they attempt to install something
they are unfamiliar with? Even if they do know of/about Linux?

3. The average computer user isn't going do anything about changing
without seeing what the other product looks like. Note that none of us
here are the average computer user.


snip


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  #34  
Old October 31st 14, 02:21 AM posted to alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Silver Slimer[_4_]
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Default Windows 8 and 8.1 Sucks, but Windows 10

On 2014-10-30 9:09 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/29/14 5:41 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:50:03 -0400, Boolworm Cowboy
wrote:


snip

You go to any computer retail outlet, and you cannot find a preloaded
Linux computer available for sale.



True, but since it's free to download and install Linux, it hardly
matters. It's quick, easy, and free to change from Windows to Linux if
Linux is what you want.


But it does make a difference.

1. The average computer user doesn't know Linux from the polar ice cap.
And since they don't, they'd never even think about installing it. I
say "Linux", and they say "What's that?"


The only appropriate answer is "a mediocre product based on a collection
of messy amateur code."

2. The average computer user can't even reinstall Windows (or even OS
X) much of the time, so whey would they attempt to install something
they are unfamiliar with? Even if they do know of/about Linux?


The only ones who actually would are the more knowledgeable ones who
enjoy tinkering with their machine, ****ing it up and eventually
reinstalling Windows.

3. The average computer user isn't going do anything about changing
without seeing what the other product looks like. Note that none of us
here are the average computer user.


The reality is that in the Windows 9x era, GNU/Linux had a true chance
of stealing Microsoft's thunder by offering a superior, more stable and
prettier operating system to replace the much-abhorred 9x series.
Instead, they offered something a lot less stable which also happened to
be ugly and incredibly inconsistent. Today, GNU/Linux still offers a
less stable, ugly and inconsistent product to compete with very stable
operating systems like Windows 7 & 8 which might not be everyone's cup
of tea as far as looks go but are at least consistent.

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Recipient of overwhelmingly positive reviews among the GNU/Linux advocates:
- "Low life at its best. But thats what you are. Worth a lot less than
stinking contaminated dirt" - Peter Köhlmann
- "He's a rotten POS." - Chris Ahlstrom AKA The Pee-Pee Wiper
(http://bit.ly/1wg0lkd)
- "He's a troll, that's his stock and trade." - RonB
- "Slimer is a filthy hater, liar and fraud IMHO." - Marti Van Lin
- "We know that it was the "Slimer", the shameless liar who takes pride,
apparently, in being a worthless trolling asshole." - chrisv
  #35  
Old October 31st 14, 02:45 AM posted to alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Windows 8 and 8.1 Sucks, but Windows 10

On 10/29/14 4:27 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-10-29 2:49 PM, Boolworm Cowboy wrote:
Windows 8 and 8.1 Sucks, but Windows 10 is looking okay so far as Microsoft is concerned. . Unfortunately, Apple's operating
system blows Microsoft's out of the water, as does Linux and true open source.


ROFL! Not only is OS X slow and bloated in comparison to Windows 8 but
GNU/Linux is generally a joke. You'll find dozens of programs in each
category to do any imaginable task but none of them are capable of doing
it properly or completely. Getting a computer to sleep & wake is a
feature they STILL haven't managed to get working properly on all
computers and it's fantastic how you can upgrade a CLEAN installation of
Ubuntu from 14.04 to say 14.10 and have the upgrade suddenly disregard
all of your settings for no good reason. I love how mine, a few days
ago, no longer showed the splash screen at boot-up and made Firefox load
3 times slower after the upgrade.

Yeah, Microsoft is running scared of GNU/Linux.

OS X only sells because people who are too stupid and/or lazy to learn
how to use their computer ends up falling into the trap set by Apple
advocates who promise them that OS X is easier to use and "better"
without defining "better."


You fail to realize and/or acknowledge that all people are not equally
capable of understanding computers and operating system, and how they work.

I've a friend who continuously struggled with Windows and never did
truly understand what she was doing when she used it. When her 3 month
old Vista laptop was stolen, I simply told her to fork out the money for
a Mac. She figured out things on that Mac faster than I did! LOL

"Better" is 100% subjective. Basically, "better" is what works best for
the owner/user, not according to someone else who feels/believes
differently.

They fall in love rather quickly but very
also realize just how much of a walled garden the Apple product is.
Suddenly, all of the variety of software they had no longer exists and
customization is fairly non-existent. Apple essentially allows you to
have whatever computer you want so long as it's exactly the one they're
selling.


The Apple users I see want something different from what Windows
generally offers. It's only according to some that it's a bad thing to
want and appreciate something different.

I take what I like from both worlds. I guess some people can't accept
that either.


--
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Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 25.0
Thunderbird 24.6.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #36  
Old October 31st 14, 03:02 AM posted to alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Silver Slimer[_4_]
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Default Windows 8 and 8.1 Sucks, but Windows 10

On 2014-10-30 9:45 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/29/14 4:27 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-10-29 2:49 PM, Boolworm Cowboy wrote:
Windows 8 and 8.1 Sucks, but Windows 10 is looking okay so far as
Microsoft is concerned. . Unfortunately, Apple's operating
system blows Microsoft's out of the water, as does Linux and true
open source.


ROFL! Not only is OS X slow and bloated in comparison to Windows 8 but
GNU/Linux is generally a joke. You'll find dozens of programs in each
category to do any imaginable task but none of them are capable of doing
it properly or completely. Getting a computer to sleep & wake is a
feature they STILL haven't managed to get working properly on all
computers and it's fantastic how you can upgrade a CLEAN installation of
Ubuntu from 14.04 to say 14.10 and have the upgrade suddenly disregard
all of your settings for no good reason. I love how mine, a few days
ago, no longer showed the splash screen at boot-up and made Firefox load
3 times slower after the upgrade.

Yeah, Microsoft is running scared of GNU/Linux.

OS X only sells because people who are too stupid and/or lazy to learn
how to use their computer ends up falling into the trap set by Apple
advocates who promise them that OS X is easier to use and "better"
without defining "better."


You fail to realize and/or acknowledge that all people are not equally
capable of understanding computers and operating system, and how they work.


I don't. People obviously don't know and don't WANT to know how their
computer works. For those people, Apples are the best product available.
However, I would rather know not only how my computer works but also how
my car and television works so that I can fix it myself if ever it
breaks. Knowledge is not a bad thing... except for Apple users.

I've a friend who continuously struggled with Windows and never did
truly understand what she was doing when she used it. When her 3 month
old Vista laptop was stolen, I simply told her to fork out the money for
a Mac. She figured out things on that Mac faster than I did! LOL

"Better" is 100% subjective. Basically, "better" is what works best for
the owner/user, not according to someone else who feels/believes
differently.


Agreed. If you're focused on producing and don't want to be distracted
by figuring out the operation of the computer, a Mac makes sense.
Admittedly.

They fall in love rather quickly but very
also realize just how much of a walled garden the Apple product is.
Suddenly, all of the variety of software they had no longer exists and
customization is fairly non-existent. Apple essentially allows you to
have whatever computer you want so long as it's exactly the one they're
selling.


The Apple users I see want something different from what Windows
generally offers. It's only according to some that it's a bad thing to
want and appreciate something different.

I take what I like from both worlds. I guess some people can't accept
that either.


Oh, I accept it. I appreciate the fact that Apple is constantly pushing
the envelope and forcing PC manufacturers to follow suit. After all, I
get better technology at a lower price and at a higher quality as a
result of that. However, I have no reason to claim anything that isn't
entirely true: Apple users simply aren't technically savvy.

--
Silver Slimer
OpenMedia Supporter
www.silverlips.ca

Recipient of overwhelmingly positive reviews among the GNU/Linux advocates:
- "Low life at its best. But thats what you are. Worth a lot less than
stinking contaminated dirt" - Peter Köhlmann
- "He's a rotten POS." - Chris Ahlstrom AKA The Pee-Pee Wiper
(http://bit.ly/1wg0lkd)
- "He's a troll, that's his stock and trade." - RonB
- "Slimer is a filthy hater, liar and fraud IMHO." - Marti Van Lin
- "We know that it was the "Slimer", the shameless liar who takes pride,
apparently, in being a worthless trolling asshole." - chrisv
  #37  
Old October 31st 14, 03:10 AM posted to alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Windows 8 and 8.1 Sucks, but Windows 10

On 10/30/14 8:02 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-10-30 9:45 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/29/14 4:27 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-10-29 2:49 PM, Boolworm Cowboy wrote:
Windows 8 and 8.1 Sucks, but Windows 10 is looking okay so far as
Microsoft is concerned. . Unfortunately, Apple's operating
system blows Microsoft's out of the water, as does Linux and true
open source.

ROFL! Not only is OS X slow and bloated in comparison to Windows 8 but
GNU/Linux is generally a joke. You'll find dozens of programs in each
category to do any imaginable task but none of them are capable of doing
it properly or completely. Getting a computer to sleep & wake is a
feature they STILL haven't managed to get working properly on all
computers and it's fantastic how you can upgrade a CLEAN installation of
Ubuntu from 14.04 to say 14.10 and have the upgrade suddenly disregard
all of your settings for no good reason. I love how mine, a few days
ago, no longer showed the splash screen at boot-up and made Firefox load
3 times slower after the upgrade.

Yeah, Microsoft is running scared of GNU/Linux.

OS X only sells because people who are too stupid and/or lazy to learn
how to use their computer ends up falling into the trap set by Apple
advocates who promise them that OS X is easier to use and "better"
without defining "better."


You fail to realize and/or acknowledge that all people are not equally
capable of understanding computers and operating system, and how they work.


I don't. People obviously don't know and don't WANT to know how their
computer works. For those people, Apples are the best product available.
However, I would rather know not only how my computer works but also how
my car and television works so that I can fix it myself if ever it
breaks. Knowledge is not a bad thing... except for Apple users.


And not wanting know also applies to Windows users. And some Apple uses
do want to know how they work.

I've a friend who continuously struggled with Windows and never did
truly understand what she was doing when she used it. When her 3 month
old Vista laptop was stolen, I simply told her to fork out the money for
a Mac. She figured out things on that Mac faster than I did! LOL

"Better" is 100% subjective. Basically, "better" is what works best for
the owner/user, not according to someone else who feels/believes
differently.


Agreed. If you're focused on producing and don't want to be distracted
by figuring out the operation of the computer, a Mac makes sense.
Admittedly.

They fall in love rather quickly but very
also realize just how much of a walled garden the Apple product is.
Suddenly, all of the variety of software they had no longer exists and
customization is fairly non-existent. Apple essentially allows you to
have whatever computer you want so long as it's exactly the one they're
selling.


The Apple users I see want something different from what Windows
generally offers. It's only according to some that it's a bad thing to
want and appreciate something different.

I take what I like from both worlds. I guess some people can't accept
that either.


Oh, I accept it. I appreciate the fact that Apple is constantly pushing
the envelope and forcing PC manufacturers to follow suit. After all, I
get better technology at a lower price and at a higher quality as a
result of that. However, I have no reason to claim anything that isn't
entirely true: Apple users simply aren't technically savvy.


Once again, depends on the Apple users. I find most Windows users
aren't technically savvy either.

Neither situation makes one OS better than another.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 25.0
Thunderbird 24.6.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #38  
Old October 31st 14, 10:11 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:21:00 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

1. The average computer user doesn't know Linux from the polar ice cap.
And since they don't, they'd never even think about installing it. I
say "Linux", and they say "What's that?"


The only appropriate answer is "a mediocre product based on a collection
of messy amateur code."


If a computer user wants to be able to do the usual ordinary things
like browse the web, store their snapshots, send and receive emails,
watch YouTube videos, buy things on Amazon and Skype the
grandchildren, and a Linux installation enables them to do just that,
then in what way is it mediocre?

Rod.
  #39  
Old October 31st 14, 03:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2014-10-31 5:11 AM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:21:00 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

1. The average computer user doesn't know Linux from the polar ice cap.
And since they don't, they'd never even think about installing it. I
say "Linux", and they say "What's that?"


The only appropriate answer is "a mediocre product based on a collection
of messy amateur code."


If a computer user wants to be able to do the usual ordinary things
like browse the web,


Not a problem so long as Flash is a requirement. GNU/Linux doesn't get a
more recent version of Flash than 11.2 unless the user chooses to use
Chrome which includes each new release.

store their snapshots,


Are you referring to photos? Windows and OS X will do a much better job
of this as the process is generally automated through the inclusion of
OneDrive and iCloud software. Both services also provide a plethora of
storage whereas absolutely no GNU/Linux distribution provides cloud
access at all.

send and receive emails,


No problem. GNU/Linux also makes it easier for users to use encryption
in their e-mail communications. Evolution in particular is excellent in
including GnuPG support.

watch YouTube videos,


See Flash.

buy things on Amazon


No problem.

and Skype the
grandchildren,


This is possible so long as Microsoft provides the operating system with
Skype itself. The operating system is basically in a position where if
Microsoft suddenly decides to upgrade the software and block access to
previous versions (as they did with OS X a short while back), that
feature is essentially removed. Microsoft has no reason whatsoever to
cater to the GNUslims.

GNUslims will lead you to believe that it doesn't matter and that
GNU/Linux has excellent Skype alternatives in the event of such an
action. However, that is a complete lie. Jitsi is ridiculous unstable in
every sense of the word and incredibly cumbersome to use despite being
"secure" whereas Ekiga, the long referred-to software, has absolutely no
users and no clients for Windows and OS X anyway.

--
Silver Slimer
OpenMedia Supporter
www.silverlips.ca

Recipient of overwhelmingly positive reviews among the GNU/Linux advocates:
- "Low life at its best. But thats what you are. Worth a lot less than
stinking contaminated dirt" - Peter Köhlmann
- "He's a rotten POS." - Chris Ahlstrom AKA The Pee-Pee Wiper
(http://bit.ly/1wg0lkd)
- "He's a troll, that's his stock and trade." - RonB
- "Slimer is a filthy hater, liar and fraud IMHO." - Marti Van Lin
- "We know that it was the "Slimer", the shameless liar who takes pride,
apparently, in being a worthless trolling asshole." - chrisv
  #40  
Old October 31st 14, 05:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2014-10-31 1:33 PM, Steve wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:11:17 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:21:00 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

1. The average computer user doesn't know Linux from the polar ice cap.
And since they don't, they'd never even think about installing it. I
say "Linux", and they say "What's that?"

The only appropriate answer is "a mediocre product based on a collection
of messy amateur code."


If a computer user wants to be able to do the usual ordinary things
like browse the web, store their snapshots, send and receive emails,
watch YouTube videos, buy things on Amazon and Skype the
grandchildren, and a Linux installation enables them to do just that,
then in what way is it mediocre?

Rod.



I see you talk about Linux a lot...I've never seen you use it though.
You always seem to be posting using forte agent rather than pan..Why
aren't you using Linux? I know you have your reasons..yeah , yeah,yeah
We've all got reasons..there are lots of them.One thing I will give
this group is that they are very tolerant. If you talk about Windows
in a Linux group or even use Windows to post, you get told to bugger
off or get called a drooling stooge or something of that nature


Absolutely right, see my signature for classic examples of how I've been
told off for suggesting that I faced problems in GNU/Linux. I have yet
to see people get insulted and bad-mouthed in the Windows groups who
didn't totally deserve it.

--
Silver Slimer
OpenMedia Supporter
www.silverlips.ca

Recipient of overwhelmingly positive reviews among the GNU/Linux advocates:
- "Low life at its best. But thats what you are. Worth a lot less than
stinking contaminated dirt" - Peter Köhlmann
- "He's a rotten POS." - Chris Ahlstrom AKA The Pee-Pee Wiper
(http://bit.ly/1wg0lkd)
- "He's a troll, that's his stock and trade." - RonB
- "Slimer is a filthy hater, liar and fraud IMHO." - Marti Van Lin
- "We know that it was the "Slimer", the shameless liar who takes pride,
apparently, in being a worthless trolling asshole." - chrisv
  #41  
Old October 31st 14, 06:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Steve
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:11:17 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:21:00 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

1. The average computer user doesn't know Linux from the polar ice cap.
And since they don't, they'd never even think about installing it. I
say "Linux", and they say "What's that?"


The only appropriate answer is "a mediocre product based on a collection
of messy amateur code."


If a computer user wants to be able to do the usual ordinary things
like browse the web, store their snapshots, send and receive emails,
watch YouTube videos, buy things on Amazon and Skype the
grandchildren, and a Linux installation enables them to do just that,
then in what way is it mediocre?

Rod.



I see you talk about Linux a lot...I've never seen you use it though.
You always seem to be posting using forte agent rather than pan..Why
aren't you using Linux? I know you have your reasons..yeah , yeah,yeah
We've all got reasons..there are lots of them.One thing I will give
this group is that they are very tolerant. If you talk about Windows
in a Linux group or even use Windows to post, you get told to bugger
off or get called a drooling stooge or something of that nature
  #42  
Old October 31st 14, 09:38 PM posted to alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:45:21 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:

I take what I like from both worlds. I guess some people can't accept
that either.


That's opportunistic! Dreadful. How could you?

Of course, what I really think is that it's very sensible. Way better
than getting hung up on religious issues.

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  #43  
Old October 31st 14, 11:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:33:27 -0800, Steve
wrote:

1. The average computer user doesn't know Linux from the polar ice cap.
And since they don't, they'd never even think about installing it. I
say "Linux", and they say "What's that?"

The only appropriate answer is "a mediocre product based on a collection
of messy amateur code."


If a computer user wants to be able to do the usual ordinary things
like browse the web, store their snapshots, send and receive emails,
watch YouTube videos, buy things on Amazon and Skype the
grandchildren, and a Linux installation enables them to do just that,
then in what way is it mediocre?

Rod.



I see you talk about Linux a lot...I've never seen you use it though.
You always seem to be posting using forte agent rather than pan..Why
aren't you using Linux? I know you have your reasons..yeah , yeah,yeah
We've all got reasons..there are lots of them.


I suspect you're not really interested in my reasons, so I won't bore
you with them, and they're not relevant to the point I was making
anyway, which is that for many people Linux would do everything they
need, if only they knew.

Rod.
  #44  
Old November 1st 14, 02:09 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Steve
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 22:06:16 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:33:27 -0800, Steve
wrote:

1. The average computer user doesn't know Linux from the polar ice cap.
And since they don't, they'd never even think about installing it. I
say "Linux", and they say "What's that?"

The only appropriate answer is "a mediocre product based on a collection
of messy amateur code."

If a computer user wants to be able to do the usual ordinary things
like browse the web, store their snapshots, send and receive emails,
watch YouTube videos, buy things on Amazon and Skype the
grandchildren, and a Linux installation enables them to do just that,
then in what way is it mediocre?

Rod.



I see you talk about Linux a lot...I've never seen you use it though.
You always seem to be posting using forte agent rather than pan..Why
aren't you using Linux? I know you have your reasons..yeah , yeah,yeah
We've all got reasons..there are lots of them.


I suspect you're not really interested in my reasons, so I won't bore
you with them, and they're not relevant to the point I was making
anyway, which is that for many people Linux would do everything they
need, if only they knew.

Rod.


Well I know and I'm using windows..I used redhat..then Fedora...back
before there were any live distros. I had ubuntu-mate installed
earlier this week. Seems like there is always a deal breaker though.
This time it was video to dvd convertion..I know there is devede that
produces jumpy videos unless you use deinterlacing..there is bombono
...jumpy too..dvd-styler that is slower than a glacier. It doesn't
matter what the reasons are. Running Linux is like taking a fat girl
to the prom..and she won't even do your homework right
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Old November 1st 14, 03:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Windows 8 and 8.1 Sucks, but Windows 10

On 2014-10-31 9:09 PM, Steve wrote:

Well I know and I'm using windows..I used redhat..then Fedora...back
before there were any live distros. I had ubuntu-mate installed
earlier this week. Seems like there is always a deal breaker though.
This time it was video to dvd convertion..I know there is devede that
produces jumpy videos unless you use deinterlacing..there is bombono
..jumpy too..dvd-styler that is slower than a glacier. It doesn't
matter what the reasons are. Running Linux is like taking a fat girl
to the prom..and she won't even do your homework right


I very much agree with you there.

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