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  #16  
Old February 9th 13, 01:04 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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Default "Always on top" isn't always on top

On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:05:42 +1100, Erik Vastmasd wrote:

I caught a glimpse of Zaidy036 on Fri, 08 Feb 2013
14:03:21 -0500, writing in alt.windows7.general:

On 2/7/2013 11:42 PM, Erik Vastmasd wrote:
I caught a glimpse of Tim Slattery on Thu, 07 Feb
2013 09:13:27 -0500, writing in alt.windows7.general:

I'm running 64-bit Win7. I'm running the "Clock" application that (I
think) comes from (32-bit) XP. I have it set to be "Always on top".
But it frequently gets covered up by other windows. It doesn't
*always* get covered up. But fairly often I'll look for it and it's
been buried.

Is there a way to get this to work properly?

If you still can't get it working try: Stoic Joker's T-Clock 2010.
http://www.stoicjoker.com/TClock/Download.php

It's free, I'm running the 64-bit version, 32-bit & 64-bit are included
in the download. It's configurable and sits in the system tray covering
the existing Windows 7 clock and starts automatically at Windows
startup.

At one time the Gadgets were identified as insecure and it was
recommended to disable and not use them.


I've had no problems with it.


Me neither. Well, a bug or two, but no security problems.

But it remains true that Microsoft, among others, has recommended not to
use Gadgets.

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Old February 9th 13, 01:17 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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Default "Always on top" isn't always on top

On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:04:16 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:05:42 +1100, Erik Vastmasd wrote:

I caught a glimpse of Zaidy036 on Fri, 08 Feb 2013
14:03:21 -0500, writing in alt.windows7.general:

On 2/7/2013 11:42 PM, Erik Vastmasd wrote:
I caught a glimpse of Tim Slattery on Thu, 07 Feb
2013 09:13:27 -0500, writing in alt.windows7.general:

I'm running 64-bit Win7. I'm running the "Clock" application that (I
think) comes from (32-bit) XP. I have it set to be "Always on top".
But it frequently gets covered up by other windows. It doesn't
*always* get covered up. But fairly often I'll look for it and it's
been buried.

Is there a way to get this to work properly?

If you still can't get it working try: Stoic Joker's T-Clock 2010.
http://www.stoicjoker.com/TClock/Download.php

It's free, I'm running the 64-bit version, 32-bit & 64-bit are included
in the download. It's configurable and sits in the system tray covering
the existing Windows 7 clock and starts automatically at Windows
startup.

At one time the Gadgets were identified as insecure and it was
recommended to disable and not use them.


I've had no problems with it.


Me neither. Well, a bug or two, but no security problems.

But it remains true that Microsoft, among others, has recommended not to
use Gadgets.


I should add that I am still using several gadgets on my Windows 7
machine, so in fact I don't disagree with you.

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Old February 9th 13, 05:33 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Tim Slattery" wrote:

Lets see, right-click on clock.exe, Details tab:
Product name is "Microsoft(R) Windows NT(TM) Operating System, Product
version is 4.00, Copyright is "Copyright(C) Microsoft Corp.
1981-1996", Date modified is 11/23/1999 10:04 AM. So it came with some
version of some Windows system.


Windows NT 4.0. You've been migrating that app from quite a ways back.
I don't have an install of Windows NT 4 to go look.

Because this is an extremely simple program that has no install
routine, so it never encounters the blocks that have been installed.


Well, it's not that well locked down. In some companies where I worked,
they ran a client on each of their workstations that did a software
inventory. It generated hashes of each file since filenames could be
the same (in different paths). If the program wasn't on the acceptable
list on the server, you got a visit from the IT folks that would
re-image your workstation. Usually you weren't there when they did it
so you wouldn't know of the change until you returned to your
workstation. They also "charged" your department for the re-image so
your manager would know if they got called a lot to do the re-image. At
some point, they didn't even have to physically show up. They could
re-image remotely (since all the workstations had clients for backups).
After your workstation got reset, you'd have to get your data from
backups. You then had to explain to your boss why you lost some of your
work files and why your department's schedule got behind because you put
software on your host that wasn't authorized. Some places REALLY lock
down their workstations.

For Windows XP (using TweakUI XP to create a registry entry), you could
configure Windows NOT to allow focus stealing. It would modify:


Then you won't be able to install the mentioned software that tries to
enforce z-axis positioning on selected processes. You're stuck with the
long-time complaint regarding Windows 7 on focus stealing.

There are other clock programs that do not require installation. You
could probably leave them on a USB flash drive (assuming they haven't
locked down the BIOS to disable the USB ports). I'm still using an old
FreeWatch program that you merely have to copy wherever you want, like
you do with the old clock.exe file.
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Old February 9th 13, 05:53 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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VanguardLH wrote:

"Tim Slattery" wrote:

Lets see, right-click on clock.exe, Details tab:
Product name is "Microsoft(R) Windows NT(TM) Operating System, Product
version is 4.00, Copyright is "Copyright(C) Microsoft Corp.
1981-1996", Date modified is 11/23/1999 10:04 AM. So it came with some
version of some Windows system.


Windows NT 4.0. You've been migrating that app from quite a ways back.
I don't have an install of Windows NT 4 to go look.


I do. That's the NT4 version of the old Win16 clock.exe, meant for people who
stuck with the old Program Manager instead of the newer 95-style shell. It
would minimize to an icon that showed the time, instead of just representing
the program. (The full interface could fill the screen, turning the computer
into an expensive clock.) It was quite handy... 20 years ago.

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Old February 9th 13, 05:53 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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"VanguardLH" wrote:

There are other clock programs that do not require installation. You
could probably leave them on a USB flash drive (assuming they haven't
locked down the BIOS to disable the USB ports). I'm still using an old
FreeWatch program that you merely have to copy wherever you want, like
you do with the old clock.exe file.


Oops, nevermind. That's a stopwatch program. You probably want an
onscreen clock (because you never watch the one in the Windows taskbar
and lose track of time). I'm sure if you look that are are
non-installed (just copy) clock programs available. Any portable clock
app should suffice your needs. Since it's portable, there's no
installation.

http://www.softpedia.com/dyn-search....ts_per_page=50

Of course, you could just get a small LCD clock to velcro onto the bezel
of your monitor. Tis visible even while I'm playing fullscreen video
games. And it's "always on top" no matter what OS is used. Sometimes
you just have to think outside the [computer] box.
 




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