Laptop's built-in wireless makes other computers to disconnect

"MapleE." wrote in message
...
All of the computers in my household needs to 'G' form of Adapters that
are slower than 'N' form of Adapter. This seems to me primarily due to
my ISP.

Are you using a (free) WiFi router from your ISP? If not, your ISP has
nothing to do with your WiFi.

If I'd use 'N' form of wireless Adapter, I can not connect at all or
simply other PCs can not get Internet.

Most 802.11n adapters are backward compatible with 802.11g and 802.11b
wireless network. They can connect to any a, b, g or n wireless network.

In my suggestion, try to ask your ISP whether your Laptop built-in
wireless is compatible to ISP that you're subscribing.

If the ISP doesn't provide WiFi router, they have nothing to do with your
choice of WiFi network (802.11a/b/g/n)

Also, I think that Router and Adapter needs to be same form.

Not necessarily.

In my case, the Router is 'G,' then I can not use 'N' form of Adapters.

I'm almost positive that misconfiguration is causing it. I'm using a Linksys
WRT54G router (it's an 802.11g router). 1 desktop and 1 laptop with 802.11n
adapters connect without any problem. In addition to that, I have 1 more
laptop with 802.11g adapter connecting with no issues.

"MapleE." wrote in message
...
All of the computers in my household needs to 'G' form of Adapters that
are slower than 'N' form of Adapter. This seems to me primarily due to
my ISP.

Are you using a (free) WiFi router from your ISP? If not, your ISP has
nothing to do with your WiFi.

If I'd use 'N' form of wireless Adapter, I can not connect at all or
simply other PCs can not get Internet.

Most 802.11n adapters are backward compatible with 802.11g and 802.11b
wireless network. They can connect to any a, b, g or n wireless network.

In my suggestion, try to ask your ISP whether your Laptop built-in
wireless is compatible to ISP that you're subscribing.

If the ISP doesn't provide WiFi router, they have nothing to do with your
choice of WiFi network (802.11a/b/g/n)

Also, I think that Router and Adapter needs to be same form.

Not necessarily.

In my case, the Router is 'G,' then I can not use 'N' form of Adapters.

I'm almost positive that misconfiguration is causing it. I'm using a Linksys
WRT54G router (it's an 802.11g router). 1 desktop and 1 laptop with 802.11n
adapters connect without any problem. In addition to that, I have 1 more
laptop with 802.11g adapter connecting with no issues.

Yes, my ISP has been providing its own Modem/Router combo. that might
control everything we're doing. Someone suggesting we'd better to get our
own choice, ... but 'compatible' is an issue. Also, we are NOT 'tech-savour'
to tackle complixities of 'wireless' and etc. Practically, we got stuck,
but we also appreciate the ISP with which we have a good term, even though
we need to wait for couple of days tech. to come whenever any issue arises.

Furthermore, the ISP appears to be not always giving an honest opinion for
our endevour to set-up by our own. Lease is $5 monthly that does not come
cheap over years, ... but again we do not like to lose a good wireless
connection that we've been enjoying.


"John" a wrote in message ...

"MapleE." wrote in message
...
All of the computers in my household needs to 'G' form of Adapters that
are slower than 'N' form of Adapter. This seems to me primarily due to
my ISP.

Are you using a (free) WiFi router from your ISP? If not, your ISP has
nothing to do with your WiFi.

If I'd use 'N' form of wireless Adapter, I can not connect at all or
simply other PCs can not get Internet.

Most 802.11n adapters are backward compatible with 802.11g and 802.11b
wireless network. They can connect to any a, b, g or n wireless network.

In my suggestion, try to ask your ISP whether your Laptop built-in
wireless is compatible to ISP that you're subscribing.

If the ISP doesn't provide WiFi router, they have nothing to do with your
choice of WiFi network (802.11a/b/g/n)

Also, I think that Router and Adapter needs to be same form.

Not necessarily.

In my case, the Router is 'G,' then I can not use 'N' form of Adapters.

I'm almost positive that misconfiguration is causing it. I'm using a
Linksys WRT54G router (it's an 802.11g router). 1 desktop and 1 laptop
with 802.11n adapters connect without any problem. In addition to that, I
have 1 more laptop with 802.11g adapter connecting with no issues.

Yes, my ISP has been providing its own Modem/Router combo. that might
control everything we're doing. Someone suggesting we'd better to get our
own choice, ... but 'compatible' is an issue. Also, we are NOT 'tech-savour'
to tackle complixities of 'wireless' and etc. Practically, we got stuck,
but we also appreciate the ISP with which we have a good term, even though
we need to wait for couple of days tech. to come whenever any issue arises.

Furthermore, the ISP appears to be not always giving an honest opinion for
our endevour to set-up by our own. Lease is $5 monthly that does not come
cheap over years, ... but again we do not like to lose a good wireless
connection that we've been enjoying.


"John" a wrote in message ...

"MapleE." wrote in message
...
All of the computers in my household needs to 'G' form of Adapters that
are slower than 'N' form of Adapter. This seems to me primarily due to
my ISP.

Are you using a (free) WiFi router from your ISP? If not, your ISP has
nothing to do with your WiFi.

If I'd use 'N' form of wireless Adapter, I can not connect at all or
simply other PCs can not get Internet.

Most 802.11n adapters are backward compatible with 802.11g and 802.11b
wireless network. They can connect to any a, b, g or n wireless network.

In my suggestion, try to ask your ISP whether your Laptop built-in
wireless is compatible to ISP that you're subscribing.

If the ISP doesn't provide WiFi router, they have nothing to do with your
choice of WiFi network (802.11a/b/g/n)

Also, I think that Router and Adapter needs to be same form.

Not necessarily.

In my case, the Router is 'G,' then I can not use 'N' form of Adapters.

I'm almost positive that misconfiguration is causing it. I'm using a
Linksys WRT54G router (it's an 802.11g router). 1 desktop and 1 laptop
with 802.11n adapters connect without any problem. In addition to that, I
have 1 more laptop with 802.11g adapter connecting with no issues.

"MapleE." wrote in message
...
Furthermore, the ISP appears to be not always giving an honest opinion
for our endevour to set-up by our own.

Why would they give you an honest opinion and lose $5/month? Ask a
friend/family tech person. I'm sure they'll be able to give you great
suggestions or even help you with the setup.

Lease is $5 monthly that does not come cheap over years, ... but again we
do not like to lose a good wireless connection that we've been enjoying.

That's why they don't want you to get your own router. $60/year to rent
their wireless G router. You can own one for the same amount of money or
less.

"MapleE." wrote in message
...
Furthermore, the ISP appears to be not always giving an honest opinion
for our endevour to set-up by our own.

Why would they give you an honest opinion and lose $5/month? Ask a
friend/family tech person. I'm sure they'll be able to give you great
suggestions or even help you with the setup.

Lease is $5 monthly that does not come cheap over years, ... but again we
do not like to lose a good wireless connection that we've been enjoying.

That's why they don't want you to get your own router. $60/year to rent
their wireless G router. You can own one for the same amount of money or
less.

Tell Comcast you want to be swapped out for a stand alone modem and a no charge
N wireless router.

http://www.comcast.com/wirelessrouter

there is a link on the page above to do this.


On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:39:08 -0500, "MapleE." wrote:

Yes, my ISP has been providing its own Modem/Router combo. that might
control everything we're doing. Someone suggesting we'd better to get our
own choice, ... but 'compatible' is an issue. Also, we are NOT 'tech-savour'
to tackle complixities of 'wireless' and etc. Practically, we got stuck,
but we also appreciate the ISP with which we have a good term, even though
we need to wait for couple of days tech. to come whenever any issue arises.

Furthermore, the ISP appears to be not always giving an honest opinion for
our endevour to set-up by our own. Lease is $5 monthly that does not come
cheap over years, ... but again we do not like to lose a good wireless
connection that we've been enjoying.


"John" a wrote in message ...

"MapleE." wrote in message
...
All of the computers in my household needs to 'G' form of Adapters that
are slower than 'N' form of Adapter. This seems to me primarily due to
my ISP.

Are you using a (free) WiFi router from your ISP? If not, your ISP has
nothing to do with your WiFi.

If I'd use 'N' form of wireless Adapter, I can not connect at all or
simply other PCs can not get Internet.

Most 802.11n adapters are backward compatible with 802.11g and 802.11b
wireless network. They can connect to any a, b, g or n wireless network.

In my suggestion, try to ask your ISP whether your Laptop built-in
wireless is compatible to ISP that you're subscribing.

If the ISP doesn't provide WiFi router, they have nothing to do with your
choice of WiFi network (802.11a/b/g/n)

Also, I think that Router and Adapter needs to be same form.

Not necessarily.

In my case, the Router is 'G,' then I can not use 'N' form of Adapters.

I'm almost positive that misconfiguration is causing it. I'm using a
Linksys WRT54G router (it's an 802.11g router). 1 desktop and 1 laptop
with 802.11n adapters connect without any problem. In addition to that, I
have 1 more laptop with 802.11g adapter connecting with no issues.


Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com

Tell Comcast you want to be swapped out for a stand alone modem and a no charge
N wireless router.

http://www.comcast.com/wirelessrouter

there is a link on the page above to do this.


On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:39:08 -0500, "MapleE." wrote:

Yes, my ISP has been providing its own Modem/Router combo. that might
control everything we're doing. Someone suggesting we'd better to get our
own choice, ... but 'compatible' is an issue. Also, we are NOT 'tech-savour'
to tackle complixities of 'wireless' and etc. Practically, we got stuck,
but we also appreciate the ISP with which we have a good term, even though
we need to wait for couple of days tech. to come whenever any issue arises.

Furthermore, the ISP appears to be not always giving an honest opinion for
our endevour to set-up by our own. Lease is $5 monthly that does not come
cheap over years, ... but again we do not like to lose a good wireless
connection that we've been enjoying.


"John" a wrote in message ...

"MapleE." wrote in message
...
All of the computers in my household needs to 'G' form of Adapters that
are slower than 'N' form of Adapter. This seems to me primarily due to
my ISP.

Are you using a (free) WiFi router from your ISP? If not, your ISP has
nothing to do with your WiFi.

If I'd use 'N' form of wireless Adapter, I can not connect at all or
simply other PCs can not get Internet.

Most 802.11n adapters are backward compatible with 802.11g and 802.11b
wireless network. They can connect to any a, b, g or n wireless network.

In my suggestion, try to ask your ISP whether your Laptop built-in
wireless is compatible to ISP that you're subscribing.

If the ISP doesn't provide WiFi router, they have nothing to do with your
choice of WiFi network (802.11a/b/g/n)

Also, I think that Router and Adapter needs to be same form.

Not necessarily.

In my case, the Router is 'G,' then I can not use 'N' form of Adapters.

I'm almost positive that misconfiguration is causing it. I'm using a
Linksys WRT54G router (it's an 802.11g router). 1 desktop and 1 laptop
with 802.11n adapters connect without any problem. In addition to that, I
have 1 more laptop with 802.11g adapter connecting with no issues.


Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com

John wrote:
"MapleE." wrote in message
...
Furthermore, the ISP appears to be not always giving an honest opinion
for our endevour to set-up by our own.

Why would they give you an honest opinion and lose $5/month? Ask a
friend/family tech person. I'm sure they'll be able to give you great
suggestions or even help you with the setup.

Lease is $5 monthly that does not come cheap over years, ... but again we
do not like to lose a good wireless connection that we've been enjoying.

That's why they don't want you to get your own router. $60/year to rent
their wireless G router. You can own one for the same amount of money or
less.


It seems to me that at $5.00/month it would take only 18 months to pay
off the purchase of a 80211n router from then on you are basically
earning $5.00/month.

John

John wrote:
"MapleE." wrote in message
...
Furthermore, the ISP appears to be not always giving an honest opinion
for our endevour to set-up by our own.

Why would they give you an honest opinion and lose $5/month? Ask a
friend/family tech person. I'm sure they'll be able to give you great
suggestions or even help you with the setup.

Lease is $5 monthly that does not come cheap over years, ... but again we
do not like to lose a good wireless connection that we've been enjoying.

That's why they don't want you to get your own router. $60/year to rent
their wireless G router. You can own one for the same amount of money or
less.


It seems to me that at $5.00/month it would take only 18 months to pay
off the purchase of a 80211n router from then on you are basically
earning $5.00/month.

John

Well, ..... in the past, I thought about that, ... a kind of stupid to pay
monthly fee. But, as I stated in my previous post, there is NO single
person in my household is 'tech savvy' to tacke wireless and etc. in the
case some crisis occurs, ... such as 'not able to get decent connection.'
We, all can tolerate a bit slower than 'other leading ISP,' but we have NO
patience for 'non-Internet.' Internet is one of our most enjoyable
entertainments, ... can do inside house.

Aside this, ... if I'd change to 'stand-alone' Barb Bowman' suggesting, ita
tech. service might get 'downgrade,' while its speed gets 'upgrade.' Then,
we, all are happy about current situation, $5 fee that is not much asking.
Believe me, mojority of tech. guys are very knowlegeable to tackle any
issues we've been having.


"john" wrote in message
...
John wrote:
"MapleE." wrote in message
...
Furthermore, the ISP appears to be not always giving an honest opinion
for our endevour to set-up by our own.

Why would they give you an honest opinion and lose $5/month? Ask a
friend/family tech person. I'm sure they'll be able to give you great
suggestions or even help you with the setup.

Lease is $5 monthly that does not come cheap over years, ... but again
we do not like to lose a good wireless connection that we've been
enjoying.

That's why they don't want you to get your own router. $60/year to rent
their wireless G router. You can own one for the same amount of money or
less.
It seems to me that at $5.00/month it would take only 18 months to pay off
the purchase of a 80211n router from then on you are basically earning
$5.00/month.

John

Well, ..... in the past, I thought about that, ... a kind of stupid to pay
monthly fee. But, as I stated in my previous post, there is NO single
person in my household is 'tech savvy' to tacke wireless and etc. in the
case some crisis occurs, ... such as 'not able to get decent connection.'
We, all can tolerate a bit slower than 'other leading ISP,' but we have NO
patience for 'non-Internet.' Internet is one of our most enjoyable
entertainments, ... can do inside house.

Aside this, ... if I'd change to 'stand-alone' Barb Bowman' suggesting, ita
tech. service might get 'downgrade,' while its speed gets 'upgrade.' Then,
we, all are happy about current situation, $5 fee that is not much asking.
Believe me, mojority of tech. guys are very knowlegeable to tackle any
issues we've been having.


"john" wrote in message
...
John wrote:
"MapleE." wrote in message
...
Furthermore, the ISP appears to be not always giving an honest opinion
for our endevour to set-up by our own.

Why would they give you an honest opinion and lose $5/month? Ask a
friend/family tech person. I'm sure they'll be able to give you great
suggestions or even help you with the setup.

Lease is $5 monthly that does not come cheap over years, ... but again
we do not like to lose a good wireless connection that we've been
enjoying.

That's why they don't want you to get your own router. $60/year to rent
their wireless G router. You can own one for the same amount of money or
less.
It seems to me that at $5.00/month it would take only 18 months to pay off
the purchase of a 80211n router from then on you are basically earning
$5.00/month.

John

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:30:15 -0800 (PST), Sudarshan Karkada wrote:

~ I have a laptop with built-in wireless which works fine. However,
~ whenever this laptop is used, all the other computers disconnect from
~ the wireless router. I have to power cycle the router before all the
~ computers can communicate with it again.
~
~ If I turn off the built-in wireless in the laptop and use a cardbus
~ wireless adapter, everything works fine.
~
~ Any idea what I should try to get the whole wireless family get along
~ (without having to use a cardbus adapter on the problematic laptop)?
~
~ Thank you very much for your insights and time.
~ __
~ Sudarshan.

My bias is to assume that, if some equipment needs to be power cycled
in order to start working again, this means that there is a bug in that
equipment.

So ... I would upgrade the code in the unspecified wireless router to
the latest.

If that doesn't work, I would upgrade the code in the unspecified
built-in adapter to the latest.

If that doesn't work, then you could commence troubleshooting.

Hth,

Aaron

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:30:15 -0800 (PST), Sudarshan Karkada wrote:

~ I have a laptop with built-in wireless which works fine. However,
~ whenever this laptop is used, all the other computers disconnect from
~ the wireless router. I have to power cycle the router before all the
~ computers can communicate with it again.
~
~ If I turn off the built-in wireless in the laptop and use a cardbus
~ wireless adapter, everything works fine.
~
~ Any idea what I should try to get the whole wireless family get along
~ (without having to use a cardbus adapter on the problematic laptop)?
~
~ Thank you very much for your insights and time.
~ __
~ Sudarshan.

My bias is to assume that, if some equipment needs to be power cycled
in order to start working again, this means that there is a bug in that
equipment.

So ... I would upgrade the code in the unspecified wireless router to
the latest.

If that doesn't work, I would upgrade the code in the unspecified
built-in adapter to the latest.

If that doesn't work, then you could commence troubleshooting.

Hth,

Aaron