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  #16  
Old April 24th 18, 10:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 24/04/2018 05:35, Robert Baer wrote:
So far, i have never seen a peep about "activation" during or after
an install of XP.


It's because you've always used a pirated software up to now.

What amazes me is people love to use a pirated software but they hate
anything that is given to them free of charge. For example Linux Junk
is free yet not many people uses it; Windows 10 was free up to now but
people were reluctant to get it because some idiot told them (probably
Linux junky) that it is a spyware.

I have concluded that some people are mentally defective and so they
should not be allowed anywhere near any machine. Look at that jerk who
killed 10 people in Toronto. He was sexually frustrated because no
women would go near him; He tried young boys but the boys were smarter
than him; Not many people know this but Canadians have many small boys
abusers.

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  #17  
Old April 24th 18, 11:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default XP online activation - what's the latest situation?

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:09:17 +0100, Good Guy
wrote:

On 24/04/2018 05:35, Robert Baer wrote:
So far, i have never seen a peep about "activation" during or after
an install of XP.


It's because you've always used a pirated software up to now.


I've never used a pirated XP. You are probably speaking from
personal experience.

What amazes me is people love to use a pirated software but they hate
anything that is given to them free of charge. For example Linux Junk
is free yet not many people uses it;


It's the most used OS today. Android is Linux.
Go back to the hole you crawled out of.
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  #18  
Old April 24th 18, 11:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default XP online activation - what's the latest situation?

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:52:42 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,
writes:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:10:27 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,
writes:
[]
More importantly XP is an abandoned product. If microsoft thought it
was of value they would support it. I never saw an expiration date on
any microsoft product I bought when I bought it. Them killing it at

Have they started putting them on any _current_ products?

some arbitrary date in the future is fraud. I can understand not
supporting it but if they refuse to activate it for a paid up
customer, they are the ones in the wrong and a hack is just justice.

Only _if_ the customer bought it from them, perhaps?


Or if the customer bought a used computer with a valid COA sticker on


Microsoft would, I presume, claim your gripe if any is with the person
you bought it from, not with Microsoft.


So If I buy a bottle of Coke with a dead mouse in it, I should blame
7-11?

it. That is probably where most reloads come from. I know when I get a
used PC, the first thing I do is wipe the hard drive and reload it
before I will even plug it into my network.


I might try to rescue drivers, if it has unusual hardware. Obviously I'd
scan any such for malware and the like.


My success at rescuing drivers from an existing system has been pretty
unsuccessful but you can usually get them from the manufacturer.
Dell used to be very good about that but now they seem to have joined
the Microsoft brigade of "screw you if you didn't buy it recently"
people.
I have collected a very good assortment of drivers tho.


To the poster who said the only real answer is to get a new W/10
machine, I guess he does not know w/7 is still supported fully, as is
8. Ten only makes sense if you think you want a big tablet.


I too have little time for the "ditch anything but the latest" brigade.


  #19  
Old April 25th 18, 01:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default XP online activation - what's the latest situation?

In message ,
writes:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:52:42 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,
writes:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:10:27 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,
writes:

[]
some arbitrary date in the future is fraud. I can understand not
supporting it but if they refuse to activate it for a paid up
customer, they are the ones in the wrong and a hack is just justice.

Only _if_ the customer bought it from them, perhaps?

Or if the customer bought a used computer with a valid COA sticker on


Microsoft would, I presume, claim your gripe if any is with the person
you bought it from, not with Microsoft.


So If I buy a bottle of Coke with a dead mouse in it, I should blame
7-11?


Under UK law, yes: your contract is with whomever you paid the money to.
This is mainly to stop "buck-passing"; a customer can take faulty goods
back to where they got them, rather than having to deal with some huge
remote company. In the case you suggest, I'm sure Coca-Cola would be
most keen to deal with, and if possible hush up, the matter; however,
strictly, any claim would be against where you bought it.
[]
My success at rescuing drivers from an existing system has been pretty
unsuccessful but you can usually get them from the manufacturer.


Agreed on both counts. Though I'd probably check with the manufacturer's
website _before_ scrubbing the existing system.

Dell used to be very good about that but now they seem to have joined
the Microsoft brigade of "screw you if you didn't buy it recently"
people.
I have collected a very good assortment of drivers tho.

[]
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  #20  
Old April 25th 18, 03:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default XP online activation - what's the latest situation?

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:14:20 +0100, Good Guy
wrote:

On 25/04/2018 01:39, wrote:
Try 5R23M51 and get back to me.


Your machine is very old: Pentium 610D


It seems to run XP well. And this is an XP group.
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Why the OT posts ? Having trouble figuring out how to use your
Usenet client ?
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  #21  
Old April 25th 18, 04:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default XP online activation - what's the latest situation?

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:05:05 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:14:20 +0100, Good Guy
wrote:

On 25/04/2018 01:39, wrote:
Try 5R23M51 and get back to me.


Your machine is very old: Pentium 610D


It seems to run XP well. And this is an XP group.
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Why the OT posts ? Having trouble figuring out how to use your
Usenet client ?
[]'s


The discussion was about moving XP drivers when reloading XP. It is
not OT at all.
  #22  
Old April 26th 18, 01:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default XP online activation - what's the latest situation?

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:19:28 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:05:05 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:14:20 +0100, Good Guy
wrote:

On 25/04/2018 01:39,
wrote:
Try 5R23M51 and get back to me.

Your machine is very old: Pentium 610D


It seems to run XP well. And this is an XP group.
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Why the OT posts ? Having trouble figuring out how to use your
Usenet client ?
[]'s


The discussion was about moving XP drivers when reloading XP. It is
not OT at all.


I was referring to the idiot that keeps telling everyone to
use Win 10, not you.
Drivers for Win XP are very much on topic here.

Best resource for drivers IMHO (found every single one for two
rather archaic laptops I was given - a Dell and a Clevo) is:

https://www.snappy-driver-installer.org/download/

I used this (freeware):

http://snappy-driver-installer.sourc...Update.torrent

It's a massive 13GB download, but has all the drivers you
could possibly need. I downloaded a year ago and put it on 3 DVDs. I
copy them to the D: partition and run the program from there.

I had backed up the drivers with Double Driver before I
formatted, but for some strange reason neither the Synaptic driver on
one laptop or the sound on the other worked. They kept asking for a
sys file that DD had not saved.

I believe they offer a small client that scans your hardware
and downloads only the necessary drivers, but read up about it. It
might be adware. I didn't try it.

As an alternative, you could use (shareware) Driver Magician,
but that has given me a "wrong" driver once.
HTH
[]'s


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  #23  
Old April 26th 18, 05:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
No_Name
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Default XP online activation - what's the latest situation?

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 21:31:03 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:19:28 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:05:05 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:14:20 +0100, Good Guy
wrote:

On 25/04/2018 01:39,
wrote:
Try 5R23M51 and get back to me.

Your machine is very old: Pentium 610D

It seems to run XP well. And this is an XP group.
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Why the OT posts ? Having trouble figuring out how to use your
Usenet client ?
[]'s


The discussion was about moving XP drivers when reloading XP. It is
not OT at all.


I was referring to the idiot that keeps telling everyone to
use Win 10, not you.
Drivers for Win XP are very much on topic here.

Best resource for drivers IMHO (found every single one for two
rather archaic laptops I was given - a Dell and a Clevo) is:

https://www.snappy-driver-installer.org/download/

I used this (freeware):

http://snappy-driver-installer.sourc...Update.torrent

It's a massive 13GB download, but has all the drivers you
could possibly need. I downloaded a year ago and put it on 3 DVDs. I
copy them to the D: partition and run the program from there.

I had backed up the drivers with Double Driver before I
formatted, but for some strange reason neither the Synaptic driver on
one laptop or the sound on the other worked. They kept asking for a
sys file that DD had not saved.

I believe they offer a small client that scans your hardware
and downloads only the necessary drivers, but read up about it. It
might be adware. I didn't try it.

As an alternative, you could use (shareware) Driver Magician,
but that has given me a "wrong" driver once.
HTH
[]'s



Thanks I will look into that.
  #24  
Old April 26th 18, 06:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert Baer[_2_]
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Default XP online activation - what's the latest situation?

Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Robert Baer
writes




So far, I've not attempted to activate by phone (which, I understand, is
automated) - but at this stage in the game, would it make any
difference? Or have MS finally totally screwed up any possibility of
installing XP?

So far, i have never seen a peep about "activation" during or after
an install of XP.

Please explain! Don't all XP installations need to be activated?

Short answer: NO; Never. Product code for install is NOT "activation".

  #25  
Old April 26th 18, 06:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert Baer[_2_]
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wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:45:05 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:28:54 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Robert Baer
writes




So far, I've not attempted to activate by phone (which, I understand, is
automated) - but at this stage in the game, would it make any
difference? Or have MS finally totally screwed up any possibility of
installing XP?
So far, i have never seen a peep about "activation" during or after
an install of XP.

Please explain! Don't all XP installations need to be activated?


If you purchased it, you can activate it with a freeware
called xpy. It changes a registry flag. Morally correct. I doubt M$
will try to sue you for activating something that BELONGS to you.

XP is not a "service", if you bought it, it's yours.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/xpy/files/xpy%20Redistributable/
[]'s


More importantly XP is an abandoned product. If microsoft thought it
was of value they would support it. I never saw an expiration date on
any microsoft product I bought when I bought it. Them killing it at
some arbitrary date in the future is fraud. I can understand not
supporting it but if they refuse to activate it for a paid up
customer, they are the ones in the wrong and a hack is just justice.

Well, then what about Win3.11, Win95, Win98, Win98SE, etc etc ad nauseum?

  #26  
Old April 26th 18, 07:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default XP online activation - what's the latest situation?

In message , Robert Baer
writes
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Robert Baer
writes




So far, I've not attempted to activate by phone (which, I understand, is
automated) - but at this stage in the game, would it make any
difference? Or have MS finally totally screwed up any possibility of
installing XP?
So far, i have never seen a peep about "activation" during or after
an install of XP.

Please explain! Don't all XP installations need to be activated?

Short answer: NO; Never. Product code for install is NOT "activation".

So what happens when the 30 days are up?
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Old April 26th 18, 12:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default XP online activation - what's the latest situation?

In message , Robert Baer
writes:
wrote:

[]
More importantly XP is an abandoned product. If microsoft thought it
was of value they would support it. I never saw an expiration date on
any microsoft product I bought when I bought it. Them killing it at
some arbitrary date in the future is fraud. I can understand not
supporting it but if they refuse to activate it for a paid up
customer, they are the ones in the wrong and a hack is just justice.

Well, then what about Win3.11, Win95, Win98, Win98SE, etc etc ad nauseum?

Those do not require activation. (I don't think the ones before '95 even
involved an installation key.) The '9x series just required
installation, during which the key was entered - you could (technically
though not legally) use the same key as many times as you liked; I
presume it is because sufficient people did exactly that, that they
implemented the activation thing in the first place, first with OSs,
then (after the 2003 version) with Office. [Other products I don't know
- do they _have_ any other products these days?]
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Old April 26th 18, 03:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:40:59 -0700, Robert Baer
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:45:05 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:28:54 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Robert Baer
writes




So far, I've not attempted to activate by phone (which, I understand, is
automated) - but at this stage in the game, would it make any
difference? Or have MS finally totally screwed up any possibility of
installing XP?
So far, i have never seen a peep about "activation" during or after
an install of XP.

Please explain! Don't all XP installations need to be activated?

If you purchased it, you can activate it with a freeware
called xpy. It changes a registry flag. Morally correct. I doubt M$
will try to sue you for activating something that BELONGS to you.

XP is not a "service", if you bought it, it's yours.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/xpy/files/xpy%20Redistributable/
[]'s


More importantly XP is an abandoned product. If microsoft thought it
was of value they would support it. I never saw an expiration date on
any microsoft product I bought when I bought it. Them killing it at
some arbitrary date in the future is fraud. I can understand not
supporting it but if they refuse to activate it for a paid up
customer, they are the ones in the wrong and a hack is just justice.

Well, then what about Win3.11, Win95, Win98, Win98SE, etc etc ad nauseum?


I knew a guy that runs Win 3.11 on a ramdisk. Incredibly fast
(almost instant).
OK for playing card games and maybe writing some text ....
You can't expect support, but a product you BOUGHT should work
forever, as long as the hardware (or emulation) supports it.
Selling a product and then refusing to "activate it" is
probably illegal, unless there is an expiry date on the box.
Only expiry date on my XP is for support, not installation.
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  #29  
Old April 26th 18, 05:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:40:59 -0700, Robert Baer
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:45:05 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:28:54 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Robert Baer
writes




So far, I've not attempted to activate by phone (which, I understand, is
automated) - but at this stage in the game, would it make any
difference? Or have MS finally totally screwed up any possibility of
installing XP?
So far, i have never seen a peep about "activation" during or after
an install of XP.

Please explain! Don't all XP installations need to be activated?

If you purchased it, you can activate it with a freeware
called xpy. It changes a registry flag. Morally correct. I doubt M$
will try to sue you for activating something that BELONGS to you.

XP is not a "service", if you bought it, it's yours.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/xpy/files/xpy%20Redistributable/
[]'s


More importantly XP is an abandoned product. If microsoft thought it
was of value they would support it. I never saw an expiration date on
any microsoft product I bought when I bought it. Them killing it at
some arbitrary date in the future is fraud. I can understand not
supporting it but if they refuse to activate it for a paid up
customer, they are the ones in the wrong and a hack is just justice.

Well, then what about Win3.11, Win95, Win98, Win98SE, etc etc ad nauseum?


Everything before W/XP had no "activation" or hardware ID testing.
If you had a code that worked, you were good to go forever.
XP was the first one that had a defacto expiration date, the date they
would no longer activate it.

 




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