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Old September 17th 18, 07:56 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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I would like a free DVD burner any suggestions.

Win 7 Pro

"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the
other ******* die for his." - General George Patton (1885-1945)

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Old September 17th 18, 08:34 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 09/17/2018 02:56 PM, Farmer wrote:

https://cdburnerxp.se/
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Old September 18th 18, 12:10 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Farmer" wrote

| I would like a free DVD burner any suggestions.
|
| Win 7 Pro
|

ImgBurn.


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Old September 18th 18, 12:51 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 19:10:33 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote:

"Farmer" wrote

| I would like a free DVD burner any suggestions.
|
| Win 7 Pro
|

ImgBurn.


+1
Make it portable before you use it.
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Old September 18th 18, 02:31 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Farmer wrote:

{NOTHING}


What a non-interesting post. Nothing in it. Just a blank post.

Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter
line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user
have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are
usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is
BEFORE any signature!

With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff
signature.
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Old September 18th 18, 02:53 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"VanguardLH" wrote

| Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter
| line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user
| have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are
| usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is
| BEFORE any signature!
|
| With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff
| signature.

I don't like signatures, either, but so what?
You know what's worse? People who post just
to whine about stuff they don't like.


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Old September 18th 18, 07:14 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Mayayana wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote

| Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter
| line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user
| have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are
| usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is
| BEFORE any signature!
|
| With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff
| signature.

I don't like signatures, either, but so what?
You know what's worse? People who post just
to whine about stuff they don't like.


You were a very pupil in school as you were obstinate just to be so. I
posted as a learning prod of what the OP did wrong.

Simple: Do NOT put the body of your message after the signature
delimiter line. You have a problem with promoting that standard? Or
you think it is just dandy to put everything in the signature?
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Old September 18th 18, 10:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , Mayayana
writes:
"Farmer" wrote

| I would like a free DVD burner any suggestions.
|
| Win 7 Pro
|

ImgBurn.


+1. (There are others which do the job fine too, but ImgBurn is clean,
small, and there are lots here who know about it - and, I haven't heard
of any problems with it other than the below.)
Received wisdom is to get a version prior to some (I can't remember
which, I have 2.5.8.0), and to turn ofd auto-update [and possibly to run
the install with your connection disconnected], since versions after
that one come with crudware and offer nothing new. I don't know if they
run on 10 though; 2.5.8.0 certainly runs on this 7.
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Old September 18th 18, 10:16 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , VanguardLH
writes:
Mayayana wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote

| Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter
| line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user
| have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are
| usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is
| BEFORE any signature!
|
| With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff
| signature.


There's a chap in uk.tech.broadcast who top-posts, but has somehow got
his system set up so that the body of any post he _responds_ to is below
the .sig line; the result being that (without taking steps), if you
respond to his posts, you only get his new bit, not what came before,
which is tedious if you want to respond to some of what they said too.

In his case, I cut him some slack on the top-posting, for a reason: he
is blind, and wading through a lot of text he's already seen is tedious
(blind people use either a screen-reader - i. e. audio out - or Braille;
I can't remember which he has. Either is slow, especially the audio
way). Although I wish he'd just _not_ use a proper "-- " line! (I've
asked him, but other members of the 'group thought I was unfairly
attacking him [which I wasn't], so I let it drop.)

I don't like signatures, either, but so what?
You know what's worse? People who post just
to whine about stuff they don't like.


You mean, like you're doing (-:? [Sorry, couldn't resist ...]

You were a very pupil in school as you were obstinate just to be so. I


Did that line come out quite as you intended?

posted as a learning prod of what the OP did wrong.


Yes - s/he may genuinely not know the consequences of doing so; your
post at the top of this one _isn't_ just a whine, you explain _why_,
which is educational both for him/her (if he's still reading this far)
and anyone else reading it.

Simple: Do NOT put the body of your message after the signature
delimiter line. You have a problem with promoting that standard? Or
you think it is just dandy to put everything in the signature?


I think Mayayana's dislike of signatures in general triggered a (small,
by his standards!) rant, missing the educational point. (I know I can be
similarly distracted myself.)
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Old September 18th 18, 12:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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VanguardLH wrote:
Mayayana wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote

| Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter
| line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user
| have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are
| usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is
| BEFORE any signature!
|
| With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff
| signature.

I don't like signatures, either, but so what?
You know what's worse? People who post just
to whine about stuff they don't like.


You were a very pupil in school as you were obstinate just to be so. I
posted as a learning prod of what the OP did wrong.

Simple: Do NOT put the body of your message after the signature
delimiter line. You have a problem with promoting that standard? Or
you think it is just dandy to put everything in the signature?


I don't think the OP did that.

He's using Thunderbird.

I suspect he was editing the sig itself and
simply clicked the post button after editing the
sig. He added his Patton quote to the sig and just
kept on typing into the same editing box.

That's also why the message is so short. Since the dialog
here isn't very big, there's "not enough lines" for an
extensive question.

https://i.postimg.cc/sxPhC9Bn/message_in_a_bottle.gif

The hard part to explain, is the crafting of the
message pane. He managed to get a newsgroup entry
in the window (using the Write button), which means
that window had to be open too. Enter the sig.
Flip over and click send or whatever? Seems
unlikely somehow. He managed to enter a Subject:
which required "being on target" for part of
the operation.

So while entering the entire message in the sig dialog
is possible, it's the sending of the empty message
that isn't as easy to explain.

This is why older versions of Thunderbird are "better".
The version I've got, it only accepts a separate text
file for a sig. You'd have to open Notepad to craft
one, and it wouldn't be natural to put the whole message
in there.

Paul
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Old September 18th 18, 02:37 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 01:14:07 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Mayayana wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote

| Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter
| line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user
| have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are
| usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is
| BEFORE any signature!
|
| With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff
| signature.

I don't like signatures, either, but so what?
You know what's worse? People who post just
to whine about stuff they don't like.


You were a very pupil in school as you were obstinate just to be so. I
posted as a learning prod of what the OP did wrong.

Simple: Do NOT put the body of your message after the signature
delimiter line. You have a problem with promoting that standard? Or
you think it is just dandy to put everything in the signature?


The above reads as if you have been hitting the sauce a little too
hard.

VanguardLH, what do you do during the day, stand outside and yell at
clouds?
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Old September 18th 18, 04:57 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

There's a chap in uk.tech.broadcast who top-posts, but has somehow got
his system set up so that the body of any post he _responds_ to is below
the .sig line; the result being that (without taking steps), if you
respond to his posts, you only get his new bit, not what came before,
which is tedious if you want to respond to some of what they said too.


There has been a long-time argument between old-timers in Usenet with
new[er] posters (mostly accustomed to top-posting as that is the default
in e-mail replies) regarding top versus bottom posting. My opinion is
that you massage your quoted content to match your posting style. If
not then you don't have a posting style and instead will post a mess.
If you top-post then you arrange all quoted content in the same order.
That means having to rearrange all the cited posts if the parent post
had them in bottom-posted order. If you bottom-post then you make sure
all the cited posts are also in bottom-posted order. You putting your
new content in a reply at the top or bottom without regard to the same
order in the quoted content means you are lazy and messy. Alas, most
posters fall into the first category: they're lazy, use whatever the
client generates, don't review their posts before submission, and don't
trim the quoted content.

Regardless of top- or bottom-posting, signatures ALWAYS go at the *end*
of a reply. That chap is top-posting and his client (probably Outlook
Express) is adding the signature right after his added content in his
reply. That was/is a problem with Outlook Express and why it is the
bane of Usenet and despised by many old-timers for ****ing up the
posting order (top vs bottom) and putting the sig in the wrong place.
So came about OE-QuoteFix (which got abandoned and got crippled by
changes in content rendering by OE). An update in Windows XP's service
pack 3 added registry entries where the user could alter the behavior of
OE: add signature after the newly added content (old default) or at the
end of the entire post (the de facto standard), along with another
setting to determine the default position of the insert cursor when
composing a new message (at the 'end' to effect bottom-posting instead
of the prior default of at the top as used with e-mail). However,
because many (perhaps most) posters are lazy, they never read the
changes made by SP3 for WinXP to know there registry settings became
available to change posting order and sig placement. After all, they're
lazy, so their post is whatever their client generates and the poster
doesn't bother editing anything other than their new content which they
don't review before clicking the Send button.

You mean, like you're doing (-:? [Sorry, couldn't resist ...]


Sometimes I jab with the retort, "Stop whining about my whining."
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Old September 18th 18, 05:03 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Paul wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Simple: Do NOT put the body of your message after the signature
delimiter line. You have a problem with promoting that standard? Or
you think it is just dandy to put everything in the signature?


I don't think the OP did that.

He's using Thunderbird.

I suspect he was editing the sig itself and
simply clicked the post button after editing the
sig. He added his Patton quote to the sig and just
kept on typing into the same editing box.


I thought Thunderbird has its config for whether a sig got added and
what was its content but it would be static content. I suspect the OP
is using an extension that automatically adds the off-topic fluff
signature content ("The object of war ...") and the extension is
screwing up his messages by misplacing its fluff sig.

I've seen an auto-sig add extension do that back when I trialed TBird
for half a year but don't remember which one it was. Whether it be
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, or Google Chrome, extension authors
don't always produce quality code or even understand the context in
which it will get used, like e-mail versus newsgroups RFC and de facto
standards. Extensions are those caveat emptor code piles (i.e., some
are turds).
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Old September 18th 18, 05:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Richard Nelson wrote:

VanguardLH, what do you do during the day, stand outside and yell at
clouds?


No, but I do flash my high beams when someone at night is driving at me
with theirs on, or roll my window down when I pull up alongside them to
warn them that they are dragging something hanging out their side door.
I also will laugh at someone who walks into a glass wall instead of
using the glass door which has the pull handle. I'm not required to
ignore every stupidity or faux pas. You also exemplify the same
attitude by noticing I missed a word ("combative" before "pupil").

Stop whining about my whining.
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Old September 18th 18, 05:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Mayayana" on Mon, 17 Sep 2018 21:53:00
-0400 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"VanguardLH" wrote

| Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter
| line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user
| have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are
| usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is
| BEFORE any signature!
|
| With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff
| signature.

I don't like signatures, either, but so what?
You know what's worse? People who post just
to whine about stuff they don't like.


I hate it when people do that.


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