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  #31  
Old April 25th 08, 02:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bruce Chambers
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Humpty Dumpty wrote:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:21:42 -0500, David wrote:

Hello,

Please recommend an already tested Registry Cleaner Tool.


Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


I just ran for an experiment RegSeeker "clean the registry". It found 569
unnecessary entries. According to your advise, I left them alone.
But I looked at the findings, and found them sensible. They are of three
types:
1) Obselete entries


How could it possibly know what entries are truly obsolete? Have you
told it what applications you're using now, and what applications you're
going to be installing and using in the future?


2) File or path inexistent.



Maybe. Or was it placed there to provide backwards compatibility with
an application?


3) Extensions not used.



And the makers of the registry cleaner know that you haven't
accidentally associated a file type with the wrong application, or that
you'll never be installing the pertinent application at some time in the
future?

The findings are true. The Registry entries really point to garbage. And
here comes my question:

Supposing I am wise enough to delete only entries which I fully understand
and I do not do any harm to the OS, will there be any benefit, such as
greater speed, faster loading or shutting down, etc.?
TIA
Humpty





None, whatsoever. (Oh, a subsequent registry scan might be a little
quicker, but that's of no real value.) That's why registry reamers are
called "snake oil:" Even when they do no harm, they do *nothing* to
positively affect (negative results abound) the performance of the
computer. At the very most, you'd free up a minuscule and statistically
insignificant amount of hard drive space.


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  #32  
Old April 25th 08, 04:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
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Default Registry Cleaner Tool

"David" wrote in message
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Hello,

Please recommend an already tested Registry Cleaner Tool.

Thank You


Think your Registry needs "cleaning"? Read
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.

--
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
Do not reply with email

  #33  
Old April 25th 08, 04:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Humpty Dumpty
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"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
Humpty Dumpty wrote:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:21:42 -0500, David wrote:

Hello,

Please recommend an already tested Registry Cleaner Tool.

Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


I just ran for an experiment RegSeeker "clean the registry". It found 569
unnecessary entries. According to your advise, I left them alone.
But I looked at the findings, and found them sensible. They are of three
types:
1) Obselete entries


How could it possibly know what entries are truly obsolete? Have you told
it what applications you're using now, and what applications you're going
to be installing and using in the future?


2) File or path inexistent.



Maybe. Or was it placed there to provide backwards compatibility with an
application?


3) Extensions not used.



And the makers of the registry cleaner know that you haven't accidentally
associated a file type with the wrong application, or that you'll never be
installing the pertinent application at some time in the future?

The findings are true. The Registry entries really point to garbage. And
here comes my question:

Supposing I am wise enough to delete only entries which I fully
understand and I do not do any harm to the OS, will there be any benefit,
such as greater speed, faster loading or shutting down, etc.?
TIA
Humpty





None, whatsoever. (Oh, a subsequent registry scan might be a little
quicker, but that's of no real value.) That's why registry reamers are
called "snake oil:" Even when they do no harm, they do *nothing* to
positively affect (negative results abound) the performance of the
computer. At the very most, you'd free up a minuscule and statistically
insignificant amount of hard drive space.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot


OK, thank you all. This settles the point, for me. If so many well informed
people agree, there is no point in doing otherwise. I'm not going to buy
"intelligent design" when sound science does the job.
Humpty


  #34  
Old April 25th 08, 05:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
PD43[_2_]
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"Humpty Dumpty" wrote:

OK, thank you all. This settles the point, for me. If so many well informed
people agree, there is no point in doing otherwise. I'm not going to buy
"intelligent design" when sound science does the job.


God'll getcha for that! g
  #35  
Old April 25th 08, 11:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
ANONYMOUS[_2_]
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Default Registry Cleaner Tool

As others have just said, no registry cleaner is the best strategy to
keep your system in peak condition. However, if you really need
something then I suggest try this:

http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/

Hope this helps.


David wrote:

Hello,

Please recommend an already tested Registry Cleaner Tool.

Thank You

  #36  
Old April 26th 08, 12:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Colin Barnhorst[_2_]
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Posts: 2,152
Default Registry Cleaner Tool

Or simply use Microsoft's own that runs in the online Live OneCare Safety
Scanner.
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/pro...tyscanner.mspx

"ANONYMOUS" wrote in message
...
As others have just said, no registry cleaner is the best strategy to keep
your system in peak condition. However, if you really need something then
I suggest try this:

http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/

Hope this helps.


David wrote:

Hello,

Please recommend an already tested Registry Cleaner Tool.

Thank You


  #37  
Old May 8th 08, 10:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Root-dir
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Default Registry Cleaner Tool

On Apr 24, 11:00*am, "Humpty Dumpty" wrote:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in messagenews:jhuv041n4dqmj301dmm8s4ct4rtp7t6hvf@4ax .com...



On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:21:42 -0500, David wrote:


Hello,


Please recommend an already testedRegistryCleaner Tool.


Registrycleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registryisn't needed and is dangerous. Leave theregistryalone and
don't use anyregistrycleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors ofregistrycleaning software try to convince you of,
having unusedregistryentries doesn't really hurt you.


The risk of a serious problem caused by aregistrycleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


I just ran for an experiment RegSeeker "clean theregistry". It found 569
unnecessary entries. According to your advise, I left them alone.
But I looked at the findings, and found them sensible. They are of three
types:
1) Obselete entries
2) File or path inexistent.
3) Extensions not used.
The findings are true. TheRegistryentries really point to garbage. And
here comes my question:

Supposing I am wise enough to delete only entries which I fully understand
and I do not do any harm to the OS, will there be any benefit, such as
greater speed, faster loading or shutting down, etc.?
TIA
Humpty


through my own experince both CCleaner and Regseeker do a fair job at
protecting important things both are free and Regseeker has an
autoclean feature and command line switch so you can sechedual
cleanings it also has a full backup and restore feature and in anwser
to your question yes you might experince some speed enhancements then
again you might not alot of the stuff that it will speed up you wont
notice in everyday use stuff like the time it takes to load all the s#^
% on the uninstall programs menu you might notice a slight boost in
login times or boot speeds

all in all dont let these nuts scare you a registry cleaner is not
going to "hose" your system the one thing you have to look out for
though is just about ANY shareware cleaner stay AWAY if its got a
price tag its garbage and infact might actualy eat your system with
the exception of a select few enterprise programs and ones that come
as part of a utilities suite (norton system works anyone?) another
thing you want to look out for is the "Tweakers" if you do want to use
a tweaker other than microsoft's tweak ui utility then make a full
backup of your reg before you even install it and probly be a good
idea to make a system restore point.
  #38  
Old May 9th 08, 04:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
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Posts: 761
Default Registry Cleaner Tool

"Root-dir" wrote in message
...
On Apr 24, 11:00 am, "Humpty Dumpty" wrote:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in
messagenews:jhuv041n4dqmj301dmm8s4ct4rtp7t6hvf@4ax .com...



On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:21:42 -0500, David wrote:


Hello,


Please recommend an already testedRegistryCleaner Tool.


Registrycleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registryisn't needed and is dangerous. Leave theregistryalone and
don't use anyregistrycleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors ofregistrycleaning software try to convince you of,
having unusedregistryentries doesn't really hurt you.


The risk of a serious problem caused by aregistrycleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


I just ran for an experiment RegSeeker "clean theregistry". It found 569
unnecessary entries. According to your advise, I left them alone.
But I looked at the findings, and found them sensible. They are of three
types:
1) Obselete entries
2) File or path inexistent.
3) Extensions not used.
The findings are true. TheRegistryentries really point to garbage. And
here comes my question:

Supposing I am wise enough to delete only entries which I fully understand
and I do not do any harm to the OS, will there be any benefit, such as
greater speed, faster loading or shutting down, etc.?
TIA
Humpty


through my own experince both CCleaner and Regseeker do a fair job at
protecting important things both are free and Regseeker has an
autoclean feature and command line switch so you can sechedual
cleanings it also has a full backup and restore feature and in anwser
to your question yes you might experince some speed enhancements then
again you might not alot of the stuff that it will speed up you wont
notice in everyday use stuff like the time it takes to load all the s#^
% on the uninstall programs menu you might notice a slight boost in
login times or boot speeds

all in all dont let these nuts scare you a registry cleaner is not
going to "hose" your system the one thing you have to look out for
though is just about ANY shareware cleaner stay AWAY if its got a
price tag its garbage and infact might actualy eat your system with
the exception of a select few enterprise programs and ones that come
as part of a utilities suite (norton system works anyone?) another
thing you want to look out for is the "Tweakers" if you do want to use
a tweaker other than microsoft's tweak ui utility then make a full
backup of your reg before you even install it and probly be a good
idea to make a system restore point.

Think your Registry needs "cleaning"? Read
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in Newsgroup, not by email.



 




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