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Old August 20th 15, 05:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default MS Dos dont see 3rd Partition

I'm trying to add more driwe space on my Win98 computer. I had two 120G
drives. I'm keeping the first (boot) drive, but replacing the second
(storage) drive with a 300G drive. Each drive has had 3 partitions (by
choice).

I removed the second drive, replaced it with the new 300G drive, which
is a Seagate. I used the Seagate software to partition and format it. I
know that Win98 cant handle a partition over 137G (and I dont think the
(15 year old) computer can either). I chose to just make two 125G
partitions, which left the 3rd one around 50G.

All went well. I got G: 125 H: 125 I: 50
In Win98, I can see all 3 of these new partitions, and copy stuff to
them, etc....

However, I sometimes boot directly to DOS.
From a direct DOS boot, I can not find drive I:
It says "Invalid Drive" when I try to go to drive I:
(G: and H: are fine).

What the f__k is going on with this?

Note:
That seagate utility added some "dynamic" (file) which I see as soon as
the computer is turned on, from Dos or A Windows boot). That is supposed
to allow for using large drives like this.

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Old August 20th 15, 07:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default MS Dos dont see 3rd Partition

You might get better answers from the W98 'group - I've crossposted.

(Or an MS-DOS one, but I don't know one.)

In message ,
writes:
I'm trying to add more driwe space on my Win98 computer. I had two 120G
drives. I'm keeping the first (boot) drive, but replacing the second
(storage) drive with a 300G drive. Each drive has had 3 partitions (by
choice).

I removed the second drive, replaced it with the new 300G drive, which
is a Seagate. I used the Seagate software to partition and format it. I
know that Win98 cant handle a partition over 137G (and I dont think the
(15 year old) computer can either). I chose to just make two 125G
partitions, which left the 3rd one around 50G.

All went well. I got G: 125 H: 125 I: 50
In Win98, I can see all 3 of these new partitions, and copy stuff to
them, etc....

However, I sometimes boot directly to DOS.
From a direct DOS boot, I can not find drive I:
It says "Invalid Drive" when I try to go to drive I:
(G: and H: are fine).

What the f__k is going on with this?

Note:
That seagate utility added some "dynamic" (file) which I see as soon as
the computer is turned on, from Dos or A Windows boot). That is supposed
to allow for using large drives like this.


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Old August 20th 15, 08:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default MS Dos dont see 3rd Partition

Il giorno Thu 20 Aug 2015 06:29:38a, ** inviava su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio
. Vediamo cosa scrisse:

However, I sometimes boot directly to DOS.
From a direct DOS boot, I can not find drive I:
It says "Invalid Drive" when I try to go to drive I:
(G: and H: are fine).


check this:

http://www.easydos.com/lastdrive.html


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Old August 20th 15, 02:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.msdos.batch,atl.msdos.batch.nt
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Default MS Dos dont see 3rd Partition

In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:26:07
+0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

You might get better answers from the W98 'group - I've crossposted.

(Or an MS-DOS one, but I don't know one.)


alt.msdos seems too quiet. alt.msdos.batch is busier. Included.
atl.msdos.batch.nt is even better, included.
comp.os.msdos.4dos is good included. That makes 6, which I think
exceeds (or equals) limits somewhere. Must one be removed?

Which one?

In message ,
writes:
I'm trying to add more driwe space on my Win98 computer. I had two 120G
drives. I'm keeping the first (boot) drive, but replacing the second
(storage) drive with a 300G drive. Each drive has had 3 partitions (by
choice).

I removed the second drive, replaced it with the new 300G drive, which
is a Seagate. I used the Seagate software to partition and format it. I
know that Win98 cant handle a partition over 137G (and I dont think the
(15 year old) computer can either). I chose to just make two 125G
partitions, which left the 3rd one around 50G.

All went well. I got G: 125 H: 125 I: 50
In Win98, I can see all 3 of these new partitions, and copy stuff to
them, etc....

However, I sometimes boot directly to DOS.
From a direct DOS boot, I can not find drive I:
It says "Invalid Drive" when I try to go to drive I:
(G: and H: are fine).

What the f__k is going on with this?

Note:
That seagate utility added some "dynamic" (file) which I see as soon as
the computer is turned on, from Dos or A Windows boot). That is supposed
to allow for using large drives like this.


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Old August 20th 15, 02:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
micky[_2_]
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Default MS Dos dont see 3rd Partition

In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:27:13
+0000 (UTC), Ammammata wrote:

Il giorno Thu 20 Aug 2015 06:29:38a, ** inviava su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio
. Vediamo cosa scrisse:

However, I sometimes boot directly to DOS.
From a direct DOS boot, I can not find drive I:
It says "Invalid Drive" when I try to go to drive I:
(G: and H: are fine).


check this:

http://www.easydos.com/lastdrive.html


I think you got it.

Still the list of ngs from my previous post might be worth noting.
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Old August 20th 15, 11:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Computer Nerd Kev[_2_]
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Default MS Dos dont see 3rd Partition

In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
You might get better answers from the W98 'group - I've crossposted.

(Or an MS-DOS one, but I don't know one.)


comp.os.msdos.misc among others, I personally think this is more Windows
relevent though.

In message ,
writes:
I'm trying to add more driwe space on my Win98 computer. I had two 120G
drives. I'm keeping the first (boot) drive, but replacing the second
(storage) drive with a 300G drive. Each drive has had 3 partitions (by
choice).

I removed the second drive, replaced it with the new 300G drive, which
is a Seagate. I used the Seagate software to partition and format it. I
know that Win98 cant handle a partition over 137G (and I dont think the
(15 year old) computer can either). I chose to just make two 125G
partitions, which left the 3rd one around 50G.

All went well. I got G: 125 H: 125 I: 50
In Win98, I can see all 3 of these new partitions, and copy stuff to
them, etc....

However, I sometimes boot directly to DOS.
From a direct DOS boot, I can not find drive I:
It says "Invalid Drive" when I try to go to drive I:
(G: and H: are fine).

What the f__k is going on with this?

Note:
That seagate utility added some "dynamic" (file) which I see as soon as
the computer is turned on, from Dos or A Windows boot). That is supposed
to allow for using large drives like this.


I could only guess about that Seagate custom stuff, so here are some
suggestions assuming disabling it doesn't fix the problem:

Have you checked that I: isn't being assigned to a letter used for a CD/DVD
drive in Windows (assuming you haven't installed a MSDOS CDROM driver)? I
think that happens on some of my machines, though it could be due to 3rd
party drive letter reassigners in my case.

You didn't happen to turn file system compression on? That leaves the file
system invisible to DOS in W98.

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Old August 21st 15, 12:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
No_Name
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Default MS Dos dont see 3rd Partition

On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:26:07 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

You might get better answers from the W98 'group - I've crossposted.

(Or an MS-DOS one, but I don't know one.)

Thanks for the crosspost, but it seems no one uses the Win98 newsgroups
anymore...

In message ,
writes:
I'm trying to add more driwe space on my Win98 computer. I had two 120G
drives. I'm keeping the first (boot) drive, but replacing the second
(storage) drive with a 300G drive. Each drive has had 3 partitions (by
choice).

I removed the second drive, replaced it with the new 300G drive, which
is a Seagate. I used the Seagate software to partition and format it. I
know that Win98 cant handle a partition over 137G (and I dont think the
(15 year old) computer can either). I chose to just make two 125G
partitions, which left the 3rd one around 50G.

All went well. I got G: 125 H: 125 I: 50
In Win98, I can see all 3 of these new partitions, and copy stuff to
them, etc....

However, I sometimes boot directly to DOS.
From a direct DOS boot, I can not find drive I:
It says "Invalid Drive" when I try to go to drive I:
(G: and H: are fine).

What the f__k is going on with this?

Note:
That seagate utility added some "dynamic" (file) which I see as soon as
the computer is turned on, from Dos or A Windows boot). That is supposed
to allow for using large drives like this.


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Old August 21st 15, 08:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default MS Dos dont see 3rd Partition


wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:26:07 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

You might get better answers from the W98 'group - I've crossposted.

(Or an MS-DOS one, but I don't know one.)

Thanks for the crosspost, but it seems no one uses the Win98 newsgroups
anymore...


Thank for the crosspost
For I the Nobody at:
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

In message ,
writes:
I'm trying to add more driwe space on my Win98 computer. I had two 120G
drives. I'm keeping the first (boot) drive, but replacing the second
(storage) drive with a 300G drive. Each drive has had 3 partitions (by
choice).

I removed the second drive, replaced it with the new 300G drive, which
is a Seagate. I used the Seagate software to partition and format it. I
know that Win98 cant handle a partition over 137G (and I dont think the
(15 year old) computer can either). I chose to just make two 125G
partitions, which left the 3rd one around 50G.

All went well. I got G: 125 H: 125 I: 50
In Win98, I can see all 3 of these new partitions, and copy stuff to
them, etc....

However, I sometimes boot directly to DOS.
From a direct DOS boot, I can not find drive I:
It says "Invalid Drive" when I try to go to drive I:
(G: and H: are fine).

What the f__k is going on with this?

Note:
That seagate utility added some "dynamic" (file) which I see as soon as
the computer is turned on, from Dos or A Windows boot). That is supposed
to allow for using large drives like this.



computer
A _ C D E F G H I

A:\MS-Dos (Reboot)
C:\Win98 First Drive (boot)
E:\?Who
F:\?Who
CD/DVD is Who

3 New partitions second drive
G: 125
H: 125
I: 50 "Invalid Drive" need to be formatted


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Old August 31st 15, 11:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
No_Name
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Default MS Dos dont see 3rd Partition

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 01:11:18 +0000 (UTC), lid
(Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:

In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:26:07 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

You might get better answers from the W98 'group - I've crossposted.

(Or an MS-DOS one, but I don't know one.)

Thanks for the crosspost, but it seems no one uses the Win98 newsgroups
anymore...


It's where I came in from. Though I often half-heartedly follow the WinXP
group as well without posting. Asking Win98 questions solely in an XP
newsgroup isn't giving any W98 expert out there much of a chance is it?

Anyway, I should have noted in my last post that compression shouldn't
mess up accessing a HDD in DOS if it is booted from Win98 (restart in DOS
mode etc.). Raw DOS on a separate disk/partition might have the problem.


Yes, I'm booted from raw dos. I always start my Win98 computer in raw
dos, so I can access my very old Dos based "Rapid File" database, which
contains all my phone contacts. That way I dont have to wait for Windows
to load to get a phone number. All I have to do is type "WIN" to start
windows, which is fine!

Anyhow, the problem is in raw dos!


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Old August 31st 15, 01:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Paul
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Default MS Dos dont see 3rd Partition

wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 01:11:18 +0000 (UTC),
lid
(Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:

In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:26:07 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

You might get better answers from the W98 'group - I've crossposted.

(Or an MS-DOS one, but I don't know one.)

Thanks for the crosspost, but it seems no one uses the Win98 newsgroups
anymore...

It's where I came in from. Though I often half-heartedly follow the WinXP
group as well without posting. Asking Win98 questions solely in an XP
newsgroup isn't giving any W98 expert out there much of a chance is it?

Anyway, I should have noted in my last post that compression shouldn't
mess up accessing a HDD in DOS if it is booted from Win98 (restart in DOS
mode etc.). Raw DOS on a separate disk/partition might have the problem.


Yes, I'm booted from raw dos. I always start my Win98 computer in raw
dos, so I can access my very old Dos based "Rapid File" database, which
contains all my phone contacts. That way I dont have to wait for Windows
to load to get a phone number. All I have to do is type "WIN" to start
windows, which is fine!

Anyhow, the problem is in raw dos!


With MSDOS, you should be looking at the two configuration
files for evidence.

http://www.vfrazee.com/ms-dos/6.22/help/lastdrive.htm

Paul

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Old September 1st 15, 01:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
No_Name
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Default MS Dos dont see 3rd Partition

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:09:17 -0400, Paul wrote:

mode etc.). Raw DOS on a separate disk/partition might have the problem.

Yes, I'm booted from raw dos. I always start my Win98 computer in raw
dos, so I can access my very old Dos based "Rapid File" database, which
contains all my phone contacts. That way I dont have to wait for Windows
to load to get a phone number. All I have to do is type "WIN" to start
windows, which is fine!

Anyhow, the problem is in raw dos!


With MSDOS, you should be looking at the two configuration
files for evidence.

http://www.vfrazee.com/ms-dos/6.22/help/lastdrive.htm

Paul


My LASTDRIVE is set as Z. I've done that since the Windows 3.x days, (or
was it Win95???). Because I always have used many partitions. I always
configure CD or DVD drives as drive O. (they're round like a letter
"O"). that way the dont get stuck in between drive partitions and
confuse things.


 




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