No sense in reviving old computers

I was given a 2ghz AMD machine with 2 gigs of RAM and a bad HD with XP.
In theory that should have been ok for Win7

I replaced the drive and installed Win7


The machine must have been 15 years old and though Win7 would install,
the CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new browser due to
lack of H/W support.

The machine has now been sent to the recycler

"philo" schreef in bericht
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I was given a 2ghz AMD machine with 2 gigs of RAM and a bad HD with XP.
In theory that should have been ok for Win7

I replaced the drive and installed Win7


The machine must have been 15 years old and though Win7 would install, the
CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new browser due to lack
of H/W support.

The machine has now been sent to the recycler



So it had an older processor than Pentium 4?



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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:53:38 +0100, Linea Recta wrote:

"philo" schreef in bericht
news
I was given a 2ghz AMD machine with 2 gigs of RAM and a bad HD with XP.
In theory that should have been ok for Win7

I replaced the drive and installed Win7


The machine must have been 15 years old and though Win7 would install, the
CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new browser due to lack
of H/W support.

The machine has now been sent to the recycler



So it had an older processor than Pentium 4?

Intel started SSE2 with the P4 in 2001 but AMD did not
support it until the release of the Opteron and Athlon 64
chips in 2003.

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On 02/15/2017 03:12 PM, Wildman wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:53:38 +0100, Linea Recta wrote:

"philo" schreef in bericht
news
I was given a 2ghz AMD machine with 2 gigs of RAM and a bad HD with XP.
In theory that should have been ok for Win7

I replaced the drive and installed Win7


The machine must have been 15 years old and though Win7 would install, the
CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new browser due to lack
of H/W support.

The machine has now been sent to the recycler



So it had an older processor than Pentium 4?

Intel started SSE2 with the P4 in 2001 but AMD did not
support it until the release of the Opteron and Athlon 64
chips in 2003.




Thanks for the info.

It did not break my heart to recycle a 16 year old comptuer

On 02/16/2017 02:30 PM, philo wrote:

[snip]

It did not break my heart to recycle a 16 year old comptuer

I do have a 18-year-old DVR (ReplayTV 2020) that was special (since it
was my first). However, it became useless in mid-November 2016 when the
cable system went to all digital.

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On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:30:20 -0600, philo wrote:

On 02/15/2017 03:12 PM, Wildman wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:53:38 +0100, Linea Recta wrote:

"philo" schreef in bericht
news I was given a 2ghz AMD machine with 2 gigs of RAM and a bad HD with
XP. In theory that should have been ok for Win7

I replaced the drive and installed Win7


The machine must have been 15 years old and though Win7 would
install, the CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new
browser due to lack of H/W support.

The machine has now been sent to the recycler



So it had an older processor than Pentium 4?

Intel started SSE2 with the P4 in 2001 but AMD did not support it until
the release of the Opteron and Athlon 64 chips in 2003.




Thanks for the info.

It did not break my heart to recycle a 16 year old comptuer

As long as it was not an IBM PS/2!

sctvguy1 wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:30:20 -0600, philo wrote:

On 02/15/2017 03:12 PM, Wildman wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:53:38 +0100, Linea Recta wrote:

"philo" schreef in bericht
news I was given a 2ghz AMD machine with 2 gigs of RAM and a bad HD with
XP. In theory that should have been ok for Win7

I replaced the drive and installed Win7


The machine must have been 15 years old and though Win7 would
install, the CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new
browser due to lack of H/W support.

The machine has now been sent to the recycler



So it had an older processor than Pentium 4?

Intel started SSE2 with the P4 in 2001 but AMD did not support it until
the release of the Opteron and Athlon 64 chips in 2003.




Thanks for the info.

It did not break my heart to recycle a 16 year old comptuer

As long as it was not an IBM PS/2!

Why? I had my own PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz and a borrowed P70
386 portable back then. I hated Microchannel Architecture (MCA) in the
386. 286 was OK without its MCA, but dang slow.
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On 02/17/2017 03:38 PM, sctvguy1 wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:30:20 -0600, philo wrote:

On 02/15/2017 03:12 PM, Wildman wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:53:38 +0100, Linea Recta wrote:

"philo" schreef in bericht
news I was given a 2ghz AMD machine with 2 gigs of RAM and a bad HD with
XP. In theory that should have been ok for Win7

I replaced the drive and installed Win7


The machine must have been 15 years old and though Win7 would
install, the CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new
browser due to lack of H/W support.

The machine has now been sent to the recycler



So it had an older processor than Pentium 4?

Intel started SSE2 with the P4 in 2001 but AMD did not support it until
the release of the Opteron and Athlon 64 chips in 2003.




Thanks for the info.

It did not break my heart to recycle a 16 year old comptuer

As long as it was not an IBM PS/2!




I have both a PS/2 and a PS/1 in my collection

On 02/15/2017 02:53 PM, Linea Recta wrote:
"philo" schreef in bericht
news
I was given a 2ghz AMD machine with 2 gigs of RAM and a bad HD with XP.
In theory that should have been ok for Win7

I replaced the drive and installed Win7


The machine must have been 15 years old and though Win7 would install,
the CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new browser due
to lack of H/W support.

The machine has now been sent to the recycler



So it had an older processor than Pentium 4?






It was an AMD Semperon . I happened to have an Athlon as well but
neither were satisfactory.

AFAIK any P-4 should still be OK

philo wrote:
the CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new browser due to
lack of H/W support.

I have a non-SSE2 running Linux Ffx 51.0.1

$ inxi -C
CPU: Single core AMD Geode NX (-UP-) cache: 256 KB flags: (sse)
clocked at 1397.667 MHz

all cpu flags:
$ inxi -Cf
CPU: Single core AMD Geode NX (-UP-) cache: 256 KB clocked at
1397.667 MHz
CPU Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr
sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow


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On 02/15/2017 09:07 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
philo wrote:
the CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new browser due to
lack of H/W support.

I have a non-SSE2 running Linux Ffx 51.0.1

$ inxi -C
CPU: Single core AMD Geode NX (-UP-) cache: 256 KB flags: (sse)
clocked at 1397.667 MHz

all cpu flags:
$ inxi -Cf
CPU: Single core AMD Geode NX (-UP-) cache: 256 KB clocked at
1397.667 MHz
CPU Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr
sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow




I am sure there are versions of Linux that would run fine but I really
need to keep the clutter in my workshop down

philo wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
philo wrote:
the CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new browser
due to lack of H/W support.

I have a non-SSE2 running Linux Ffx 51.0.1

I am sure there are versions of Linux that would run fine but I
really need to keep the clutter in my workshop down

I completely understand. I definitely need to retire/recycle that
machine; there is no place I know who would be re-using it. I'm the
only person I know who would bother :-)

If I would jettison that box, there's a much newer faster one right over
yonder that I could be using which is currently out of reach (unless I
get out of my chair) :-/




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says...

philo wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
philo wrote:
the CPU has no SSE2 so I was not able to install any new browser
due to lack of H/W support.

I have a non-SSE2 running Linux Ffx 51.0.1

I am sure there are versions of Linux that would run fine but I
really need to keep the clutter in my workshop down

I completely understand. I definitely need to retire/recycle that
machine; there is no place I know who would be re-using it. I'm the
only person I know who would bother :-)

If I would jettison that box, there's a much newer faster one right over
yonder that I could be using which is currently out of reach (unless I
get out of my chair) :-/

If it'll run XP I'd likely use it for one thing only. I'm in the habit
of connecting a pc to both a tv and stereo. If the unit is fast enough
to play a XVID video of 720x480 with 192Kbs audio without stuttering
while being fed over a network connection I'd find it still usable.
Usually also means I have to add an old video card with tv-out on it
also but I have a old stockpile of them.

I've setup "fiends" with similar and that's all they use it for given
the don't even have any internet connection.

Bonus in keeping one of the old boxes alive is they still use the old
IDE drives and I've got a nice little stack of them here still large
enough to be usable. They work fine as shared drives for extra backups
etc. Note - it's getting harder to find external IDE enclosures for
3.5" drives most now only 2.5" or SATA instead.

pjp wrote:
Bonus in keeping one of the old boxes alive is they still use the old
IDE drives and I've got a nice little stack of them here still large
enough to be usable. They work fine as shared drives for extra backups
etc. Note - it's getting harder to find external IDE enclosures for
3.5" drives most now only 2.5" or SATA instead.

Speaking of over-the-hill IDE hardware, not only do I have a stack of
IDEs from 5, 40, and 80G, I also have removable IDE trays and their docks.

Collections of gangs of USB sticks of various sizes take up a lot less
room :-)

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On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:40:59 -0400, pjp
wrote:

If it'll run XP I'd likely use it for one thing only. I'm in the habit
of connecting a pc to both a tv and stereo. If the unit is fast enough
to play a XVID video of 720x480 with 192Kbs audio without stuttering
while being fed over a network connection I'd find it still usable.

Wow, xvid. I used that from about 1998 to 2001. Lots of water has passed
under the bridge since then. Thanks for the flashback.

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