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On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 09:14:30 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 16:00:19 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:32:32 -0500, Stan Brown wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:05:02 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:36:54 -0800, "OREALLY" wrote: There are significant advantages to IE. If that's your view, that's fine with me. But it's not mine at all. In my opinion, Edge is the worst browser out there, and IE is a close second. Almost any other browser is preferable. Ken, I suspect you've fallen for a troll. The initial rant was silly enough, since -- as you rightly pointed out -- it's quite easy to switch to a real browser. But the claim of "advantages" to IE11 is even more silly, and I can't imagine that anyone including the OP believes it. You could be right. I thought that might be the case, but I didn't want to jump to conclusions. The chosen nym is a danger sign also. I'm waiting with bated breath for what he tells us are IE's advantages. g I predict your breathing will gradually return to normal, your curiosity unsatisfied. :-) Yep, you're probably right. |
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 09:12:49 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 17:47:42 -0500, Paul wrote: No, that's what happens when someones Internet Banking only works with a specific version of Internet Explorer (ActiveX etc.). Other than some quirk like that, it doesn't really have any advantages at all. But your bank probably likes it. The banks even like to drag their heels, optimizing for IE10 when IE11 is out. Two banks in succession, Bank of the Internet and the local B&M bank Tompkins Trust, lost my business for exactly that reason. They said they were fine with Firefox, but they weren't. Tompkins Trust initially had home-grown software that was clunky but worked; then they bought a version of the software that had driven me away from the first bank. Numerous support calls and a couple of talks with my branch manager failed to solve the problem. I've been with my present bank for almost three years, and they know how to do software right. Plus there's cash back on certain transactions. By the way, although my bank's web site (BofA) works fine with FireFox, I hardly ever go there. I do almost everything through Quicken., and to me the most important thing about a bank is that Quicken works with it. |
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On 19/02/2017 2:58 pm, Mayayana wrote:
"Bob Henson" wrote | | There are significant advantages to IE. | | I can't imagine what those might be. | | The main one is the amount of memory it uses. I have an old laptop with | limited memory running Windows 7, and both Chrome and Firefox have | become so bloated that neither will run successfully on it at all. | Internet Explorer 11 loads in a fraction of the time the others take and | then runs just fine, albeit slowly. Other than that, I agree with you. I think one reason IE loads instantly is because it's already running, for the most part. It's very much tied into the system, and to Explorer. Only the tiny iexplore.exe graphical front-end and a couple of things like shdocvw.dll actually need to be loaded. IE graphics is Windows graphics. IE cookies and cache are defined as Windows cookies and cache. Much of the Windows network API is indistingushable from the IE API. Other browsers bring their own versions of those things. That's where the difference lies, certainly - and why, when the others refused to run on my overloaded old laptop, I switched to using it. Other than the lack of extensions these days (maybe a good thing because that's where much of Chrome and Firefox's memory greed comes from) Internet Explorer 11 works fine in most circumstances. By the way, thanks for your other comment about Chrome on phones. That's the first time I've heard anything that might explain the popularity of Chrome and the falling number of Firefox users. As someone who rarely uses a computer phone and has never needed to "sync" anything, I've been unaware of that aspect. Firefox's useless portable version are certainly a major reason now, but the thing that lost Firefox most of its long time users like me was the "new" update system a couple of years back which threw out a new version every couple of weeks, and a change to much of the GUI in a vain attempt to look like Chrome. As a consequence of the changes, most of the extension writers got sick and tired of having their extensions broken every few days, gave up, and left. As the only reason Firefox was better than other browsers was its flexibility and configurability, there was no longer any point using it any more when they broke it. We argued long and hard with them for a very long time in the Firefox Usenet forums, but the devs had long since ceased to take any notice of the users, who then left in droves. -- Bob Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England Obsolete : The computer you have. State of the Art : The computer you can't afford. |
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On 02/18/2017 05:05 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:00:38 -0500, "Mayayana" wrote: The Edge userAgent is designed to look like Chrome: Yes, I thought the same thing; ranking browsers from best to worst, starting with Firefox at the top, to me the three worst ones are Chrome, IE, and Edge, in that order. But we all have different views. Two of the things that perplex me are how many people like Chrome and how many people like Edge. I once thought Opera had potential to become the best browser. However, recent versions are too much like Chrome. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "All religions are founded on the fear of the many and the cleverness of the few." -- Marie Henri Beyle (Stendhal) |
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 09:14:30 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 16:00:19 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:32:32 -0500, Stan Brown wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:05:02 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:36:54 -0800, "OREALLY" wrote: There are significant advantages to IE. If that's your view, that's fine with me. But it's not mine at all. In my opinion, Edge is the worst browser out there, and IE is a close second. Almost any other browser is preferable. Ken, I suspect you've fallen for a troll. The initial rant was silly enough, since -- as you rightly pointed out -- it's quite easy to switch to a real browser. But the claim of "advantages" to IE11 is even more silly, and I can't imagine that anyone including the OP believes it. You could be right. I thought that might be the case, but I didn't want to jump to conclusions. The chosen nym is a danger sign also. I'm waiting with bated breath for what he tells us are IE's advantages. g I predict your breathing will gradually return to normal, your curiosity unsatisfied. :-) OREALLY has a long, but sparse, posting record here, going back quite a few years. To my knowledge, no one has ever accused her of trollish behavior until now. I think it's more a case that she's simply frustrated, and some of that frustration came through on her post. -- Char Jackson |
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"Mark Lloyd" wrote
| BTW, I started putting audio & video on my website soon after FF4 came | out (with HTML5 AUDIO and VIDEO tags). I have never used Flash. Now | there seems little reason to add it. Anyone who has a very old browser | can download the files and play them locally. | That's what I do. If I can't download it then I probably don't need to see it. Though last week I broke down for an audio lecture I wanted to hear. I ended up streaming it on another computer and capturing the audio with Audigy, so that I could listen at will. A pain in the neck. And not even a for-profit source. It's unfortunate that so many sites make it so difficult. | I do have a Gmail account ...So far the only mail that's ever been in | it is mail Google sends. | Sounds like the perfect Google account. |
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1) Easier to create Desktop shortcut
2) Google Toolbar (strangely not available in Google Chrome) 3) Copying a site instantly shows up in Google Toolbar 4) Ability to CUSTOMIZE Zoom 5) Manage Add-ons "Ken Blake" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:32:32 -0500, Stan Brown wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:05:02 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:36:54 -0800, "OREALLY" wrote: There are significant advantages to IE. If that's your view, that's fine with me. But it's not mine at all. In my opinion, Edge is the worst browser out there, and IE is a close second. Almost any other browser is preferable. Ken, I suspect you've fallen for a troll. The initial rant was silly enough, since -- as you rightly pointed out -- it's quite easy to switch to a real browser. But the claim of "advantages" to IE11 is even more silly, and I can't imagine that anyone including the OP believes it. You could be right. I thought that might be the case, but I didn't want to jump to conclusions. I'm waiting with bated breath for what he tells us are IE's advantages. g |
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Big Al wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: I found Google (and another but don't remember) were still configured to go through their proxy. I'd have to change their redirection in a config file. But then there are all the other mentioned "features" that I'd still have to disable which would have to get configured in almost all web browsers - except maybe Epic but I'd have to dig again into that one to see if they really are secure and as private as they could be configured. You couldn't expand on the Chrome config file particulars could you? I personally like Chrome but am concerned about phone home concepts. I have Google Chrome installed but do not use it except in case of emergency, like other web browsers will fail or they exhibit some problem that I will include Chrome in testing for a solution. When I trialed Chrome to be my primary web browser, there were lots of features intrinsic to Firefox that I actually do often use that were sorely missed in Chrome. Since I decided to use Chrome merely as a backup or test application, I didn't bother installing any add-ons. I don't think I even tweaked it to improve on privacy and security. I wanted a default installation to eliminate any side effects of me altering it. If what you meant to ask is how to get into Chrome's advanced settings beyond the few they expose in their config UI, use about:flags (or chrome://flags to which about:flags redirects). Google Chrome has nowhere near the configurability of Firefox. For example, try to find out how to modify the settings for mixed content: where an HTTPS web page retrieves non-secure HTTP content. In Firefox, there are 2 settings: you can block all insecure content delivered within a supposedly secure page (which is misleading because either a page is secure or not and not something between) or just block insecure images. Google Chrome has just 1 setting which means they block insecure content except they allow insecure images. The assumption is that images are independent of your account there and won't have sensitive information. They figure no site would ever present a image containing an overlay of your bank account or credit card number. They're wrong. A page is secure or it is not. Any insecure content means the page is not secure. Another example is meta-refresh. You can disable it in Firefox via settings. Not available in Google Chrome. meta-refresh can be used to redirect you to a page or even a site that you did not intend to visit and can be used to present interstitial pages, like for ads. While Firefox will let me block meta-refresh and it tells me about it, unfortunately it does not offer information about to where the redirection points. For Chrome, you have to get a meta-refresh blocker add-on. Note that blocking Javascript does NOT block meta-refresh which is an HTML tag, not a scripted function. An option (disabled by default) in Firefox will intervene and warn me about the redirection; however, although it obviously knows that I would get redirected and to where that would be, Mozilla decided not to tell me to where the redirection points. It could be another page at the same web site, or to another subdomain, or another domain owned by the same site, or somewhere completely unexpected and unwanted. So Firefox has the option but it is incompletely implemented. My recollection from when I trialed Google Chrome was that I had to immediately find 6 add-ons to add intrinsic features in Firefox or even in Internet Explorer. I did get up to 9, at first, but recall managing to back it down to 6 (maybe I just sacrified on features to reduce the count). Since I decided Google Chrome was not the web browser for me, it remains as a default install (I uninstalled, cleaned out all the remnant registry and file entries, and did a clean install, along with disabling the startup program and scheduled tasks for updating) used only for rare testing. The problem with a multi-process web browser, like Chrome, is that you get multiple processes for each tab but you also get multiple copies of each add-on for each tab process. So 10 add-ons for 5 tabs means 50 copies of the add-ons are loaded into memory. With Firefox going to the multi-process model (but timidly at first) - e10s or Electrolysis - the same duplicity of add-on instances will occur. As regarding to the part of my post that you actually cited, it's been too long since I trialed Opera to remember what config file I had to edit to eliminate redirects to their proxy (even with redirection disabled in their config UI). I didn't want to bother with their proxy. It was primarily meant to assist those on slow connections (e.g., dial- up, DSL) to boost page load time. Caching proxies aren't new. In fact, that concept is rather old. ISPs use them to speed up effective responsiveness for the most visited web pages. I have an always-on highspeed cable Internet connection and the proxy would afford no speed up for me. Then I noticed Opera was still making connects to Opera's domain. They weren't for updates. They were when I did searches but only for a couple of search engines. That led me to dig into their files searching on those domains, found the redirects still defined in their config files, changed them, and no more redirects. |
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En el artículo , Stan
Brown escribió: Firefox is my workaday browser, but I do occasionally use Chrome Firefox recently became unstable for me after years and years of reliable operation, even with a new profile, a clear, a reset and all add-ons disabled. I couldn't pin it down on any one cause. Chrome is quick, but just takes up too much memory. (I'm still on 32-bit Win7). Currently trying Pale Moon which is based on the same Mozilla code as Firefox with a lot of the bloat and crap chopped out, and this is looking good so far. Imported my bookmarks from Firefox, installed uBlock Origin, and off it went. Low memory footprint, very fast and works with everything I've tried so far. I usually have 40-60 tabs open at any one time. I'd be interested to hear what others think. http://www.palemoon.org/ -- (\_/) (='.'=) systemd: the Linux version of Windows 10 (")_(") |
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote
| Currently trying Pale Moon which is based on the same Mozilla code as | Firefox with a lot of the bloat and crap chopped out, and this is | looking good so far. Imported my bookmarks from Firefox, installed | uBlock Origin, and off it went. Low memory footprint, very fast and | works with everything I've tried so far. I usually have 40-60 tabs open | at any one time. I'd be interested to hear what others think. | I use PM for most things, with script, frames, coookies, etc disabled. When I need to enable script I use FF with NoScript and allow session cookies and referrer. They're basically the same thing, so all the extensions are the same. I mainly use XP so I have PM 24. I'm also using FF 36. I don't know why people think they have to enable that crazy FF updating schedule. If sites complain I just change the userAgent. (I think it currently says FF 45.) I like that I can have two copies of basically the same browser and switch back and forth. I downloaded SeaMonkey recently but don't know if there's any reason to learn that one. I used K-Meleon for a long time, as a lightweight, more user-friendly branch of FF. But then KM got abandoned. It recently got started up again and I installed it, but haven't got around to trying it out. Unlike PM, it's more customized away from FF, so it's not an instant transition. I find both PM and FF work very well, but I've never enabled auto-updating and I'm familiar with about:config. Most of the people in the FF group complaining usually start out with, "I installed the brand new version and now..." I'd never install the brand new version of *anything*, including Windows service packs, unless I desperately need a new feature. There are often rough edges. With FF, in particular, I don't worry so much about bugs as broken functionality. I'm tired of needing to get more extensions for every FF update that removes something useful. I currently have extensions for privacy, to replace the status bar, to replace javascript settings, to fix broken UI details, to restore View Source, and to get rid of tabs. One PM glitch: I just built a new Win7-64 box and installed the latest PM, along with FF. For some reason PM won't load a webpage. Very odd. But I'm guessing it's probably some obvious glitch that I've overlooked. I just haven't got around to figuring it out. |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 15:17:43 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote: "Mike Tomlinson" wrote | Currently trying Pale Moon which is based on the same Mozilla code as | Firefox with a lot of the bloat and crap chopped out, and this is | looking good so far. Imported my bookmarks from Firefox, installed | uBlock Origin, and off it went. Low memory footprint, very fast and | works with everything I've tried so far. I usually have 40-60 tabs open | at any one time. I'd be interested to hear what others think. | I use PM for most things, with script, frames, coookies, etc disabled. When I need to enable script I use FF with NoScript and allow session cookies and referrer. They're basically the same thing, so all the extensions are the same. I mainly use XP so I have PM 24. I'm also using FF 36. I don't know why people think they have to enable that crazy FF updating schedule. If sites complain I just change the userAgent. (I think it currently says FF 45.) I like that I can have two copies of basically the same browser and switch back and forth. I downloaded SeaMonkey recently but don't know if there's any reason to learn that one. I used K-Meleon for a long time, as a lightweight, more user-friendly branch of FF. But then KM got abandoned. It recently got started up again and I installed it, but haven't got around to trying it out. Unlike PM, it's more customized away from FF, so it's not an instant transition. I find both PM and FF work very well, but I've never enabled auto-updating and I'm familiar with about:config. Most of the people in the FF group complaining usually start out with, "I installed the brand new version and now..." I'd never install the brand new version of *anything*, including Windows service packs, unless I desperately need a new feature. There are often rough edges. With FF, in particular, I don't worry so much about bugs as broken functionality. I'm tired of needing to get more extensions for every FF update that removes something useful. I currently have extensions for privacy, to replace the status bar, to replace javascript settings, to fix broken UI details, to restore View Source, and to get rid of tabs. One PM glitch: I just built a new Win7-64 box and installed the latest PM, along with FF. For some reason PM won't load a webpage. Very odd. But I'm guessing it's probably some obvious glitch that I've overlooked. I just haven't got around to figuring it out. I've been using FireFox for a while, but I've had Pale Moon on my list of software I wanted to try. Mike Tomlinson's message reminded me about it, and having some free time today, I installed it and spent some time configuring it. So far I like it a lot. I have only two related gripes: 1. the FireFox add-on "Open Bookmarks in New Tab" doesn't work with it. As far as I'm concerned, that should be a default in all browsers, but it isn't. 2. When I type a URL, it too opens over the current tab. I would also like that to open in a new tab, which I also think should be the default. I've looked for another setting or add-on that does these, but I haven't found anything. Do you or Mike, or anyone else here, know of a way to do these? Yes, I know I can click the + before entering a URL or clicking a bookmark, but I'd much rather not have to remember to do that. |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:46:53 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 15:17:43 -0500, "Mayayana" wrote: "Mike Tomlinson" wrote | Currently trying Pale Moon which is based on the same Mozilla code as | Firefox with a lot of the bloat and crap chopped out, and this is | looking good so far. Imported my bookmarks from Firefox, installed | uBlock Origin, and off it went. Low memory footprint, very fast and | works with everything I've tried so far. I usually have 40-60 tabs open | at any one time. I'd be interested to hear what others think. | I use PM for most things, with script, frames, coookies, etc disabled. When I need to enable script I use FF with NoScript and allow session cookies and referrer. They're basically the same thing, so all the extensions are the same. I mainly use XP so I have PM 24. I'm also using FF 36. I don't know why people think they have to enable that crazy FF updating schedule. If sites complain I just change the userAgent. (I think it currently says FF 45.) I like that I can have two copies of basically the same browser and switch back and forth. I downloaded SeaMonkey recently but don't know if there's any reason to learn that one. I used K-Meleon for a long time, as a lightweight, more user-friendly branch of FF. But then KM got abandoned. It recently got started up again and I installed it, but haven't got around to trying it out. Unlike PM, it's more customized away from FF, so it's not an instant transition. I find both PM and FF work very well, but I've never enabled auto-updating and I'm familiar with about:config. Most of the people in the FF group complaining usually start out with, "I installed the brand new version and now..." I'd never install the brand new version of *anything*, including Windows service packs, unless I desperately need a new feature. There are often rough edges. With FF, in particular, I don't worry so much about bugs as broken functionality. I'm tired of needing to get more extensions for every FF update that removes something useful. I currently have extensions for privacy, to replace the status bar, to replace javascript settings, to fix broken UI details, to restore View Source, and to get rid of tabs. One PM glitch: I just built a new Win7-64 box and installed the latest PM, along with FF. For some reason PM won't load a webpage. Very odd. But I'm guessing it's probably some obvious glitch that I've overlooked. I just haven't got around to figuring it out. I've been using FireFox for a while, but I've had Pale Moon on my list of software I wanted to try. Mike Tomlinson's message reminded me about it, and having some free time today, I installed it and spent some time configuring it. So far I like it a lot. I have only two related gripes: 1. the FireFox add-on "Open Bookmarks in New Tab" doesn't work with it. As far as I'm concerned, that should be a default in all browsers, but it isn't. Right-click on the bookmark and select "Open in a New Tab". There may be more info later! (if I can find the time) |
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"Ken Blake" wrote
So far I like it a lot. I have only two related gripes: 1. the FireFox add-on "Open Bookmarks in New Tab" doesn't work with it. As far as I'm concerned, that should be a default in all browsers, but it isn't. 2. When I type a URL, it too opens over the current tab. I would also like that to open in a new tab, which I also think should be the default. I've looked for another setting or add-on that does these, but I haven't found anything. Do you or Mike, or anyone else here, know of a way to do these? I'm not the best person to ask for this. I dislike tabs and use an add-on to prevent the tab bar showing at all. I'm also using PM 24.7. When I want a new window I use right-click - Open in New Window. But for what it's worth... Once I undid my tab protections I went here and downloaded the older version of Open Bookmarks In New Tab: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...-tab/versions/ Version .1 (It's gone to v. 1 and v. 2 in the past year, but those are all for FF 38 or later.) I don't know exactly how the versions line up between PM and FF. As you probably know, there are various breaks in compatibility with extensions and versions. But the older .1 version worked for me in PM 24 to make bookmarks open in a new tab. It did not work to make typed URLs in the location bar open in a new tab. They still opened in the active tab. |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:39:01 +1100, Monty wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:46:53 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 15:17:43 -0500, "Mayayana" wrote: "Mike Tomlinson" wrote | Currently trying Pale Moon which is based on the same Mozilla code as | Firefox with a lot of the bloat and crap chopped out, and this is | looking good so far. Imported my bookmarks from Firefox, installed | uBlock Origin, and off it went. Low memory footprint, very fast and | works with everything I've tried so far. I usually have 40-60 tabs open | at any one time. I'd be interested to hear what others think. | I use PM for most things, with script, frames, coookies, etc disabled. When I need to enable script I use FF with NoScript and allow session cookies and referrer. They're basically the same thing, so all the extensions are the same. I mainly use XP so I have PM 24. I'm also using FF 36. I don't know why people think they have to enable that crazy FF updating schedule. If sites complain I just change the userAgent. (I think it currently says FF 45.) I like that I can have two copies of basically the same browser and switch back and forth. I downloaded SeaMonkey recently but don't know if there's any reason to learn that one. I used K-Meleon for a long time, as a lightweight, more user-friendly branch of FF. But then KM got abandoned. It recently got started up again and I installed it, but haven't got around to trying it out. Unlike PM, it's more customized away from FF, so it's not an instant transition. I find both PM and FF work very well, but I've never enabled auto-updating and I'm familiar with about:config. Most of the people in the FF group complaining usually start out with, "I installed the brand new version and now..." I'd never install the brand new version of *anything*, including Windows service packs, unless I desperately need a new feature. There are often rough edges. With FF, in particular, I don't worry so much about bugs as broken functionality. I'm tired of needing to get more extensions for every FF update that removes something useful. I currently have extensions for privacy, to replace the status bar, to replace javascript settings, to fix broken UI details, to restore View Source, and to get rid of tabs. One PM glitch: I just built a new Win7-64 box and installed the latest PM, along with FF. For some reason PM won't load a webpage. Very odd. But I'm guessing it's probably some obvious glitch that I've overlooked. I just haven't got around to figuring it out. I've been using FireFox for a while, but I've had Pale Moon on my list of software I wanted to try. Mike Tomlinson's message reminded me about it, and having some free time today, I installed it and spent some time configuring it. So far I like it a lot. I have only two related gripes: 1. the FireFox add-on "Open Bookmarks in New Tab" doesn't work with it. As far as I'm concerned, that should be a default in all browsers, but it isn't. Right-click on the bookmark and select "Open in a New Tab". Yes, thanks. I knew I could do that, but I still wish I didn't have to remember to do something special; I would like to just left-click the bookmark. Still, it's probably a little better than clicking the +, then the bookmark. There may be more info later! (if I can find the time) Thanks again. If you can and can find something, Ids appreciate it. |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 21:59:16 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote: "Ken Blake" wrote So far I like it a lot. I have only two related gripes: 1. the FireFox add-on "Open Bookmarks in New Tab" doesn't work with it. As far as I'm concerned, that should be a default in all browsers, but it isn't. 2. When I type a URL, it too opens over the current tab. I would also like that to open in a new tab, which I also think should be the default. I've looked for another setting or add-on that does these, but I haven't found anything. Do you or Mike, or anyone else here, know of a way to do these? I'm not the best person to ask for this. I dislike tabs and use an add-on to prevent the tab bar showing at all. I'm also using PM 24.7. When I want a new window I use right-click - Open in New Window. But for what it's worth... Once I undid my tab protections I went here and downloaded the older version of Open Bookmarks In New Tab: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...-tab/versions/ Version .1 (It's gone to v. 1 and v. 2 in the past year, but those are all for FF 38 or later.) I don't know exactly how the versions line up between PM and FF. As you probably know, there are various breaks in compatibility with extensions and versions. But the older .1 version worked for me in PM 24 to make bookmarks open in a new tab. Thanks very much. I just went there and downoaded the .1 version. Yes, it works fine. It did not work to make typed URLs in the location bar open in a new tab. They still opened in the active tab. Alas. That's my only remaining problem. If I can solve that one, I'll probably stick with Pale Moon. Ken |
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