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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
Bob wrote:
Last time I tried the so-called most user friendly version of Ubuntu on a brand new build, it failed miserably and never could get a NIC driver or video driver for it. Tried it on older hardware and it liked the old NVidia video but screwed up the USB and DVD. Think hard, now: Do you think that if Linux was vetted and pre-installed by the OEM, like Windows is, you would not have had those problems? Plus it constantly hung with error messages that only a physics professor would understand. A mere mortal doesn't stand a chance. Strange, I've never had that happen in my entire life. So if Linux is your choice - great, enjoy it but don't try to convince us it's problem free Neither is Windows, unquestionably THE most hacked OS. -- "Linux simply isn't mature enough and rich enough for the average home user ..." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark |
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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
Bob wrote:
Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. FFS "Bob", learn how to quote in USENET. ("Bob" did not write the above.) -- 'Only in COLA can someone recommend giving 250 Linux distros to a guy who doesn't know how to turn a PC on in order that he might "evaluate" the solution best meeting his (unknown) needs.' - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark |
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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
Big Bad Bob wrote:
Bob so wittily quipped: snippage So if Linux is your choice - great, enjoy it but don't try to convince us it's problem free - it isn't. It is also one of the most hacked server OSes in the world too. Most of those big name hacks we've heard about this past year were running Linux front-ends. Not exactly a secure system but yes, it is less expensive up-front but over time, you pay. FUD noted FUD and idiocy. Linux is the most widely-used server OS in the world, by far, and not because it's "less expensive up front". It's because it's the best tool for the job. -- "OSS is far more likely to break standards because of the lack of formal acceptance tests" - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark |
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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 16:14:01 -0400, Bob wrote in
Message-Id: : You'll never convince the world that Linux is the better OS. Been there, done that and it's a plain bitch to work with. Great for the geeks that have the time to invest in playing with it but it can be a real time waster for those that want an OS to "Just work". There's nothing wrong with wanting something that works out of the box. Millions of people are migrating to tablets for that exact reason. If Windows ticks all your boxes, go with it, there's no reason to learn something else just for the sake of learning it. Bashing Linux doesn't make it better or worse, just less suitable for your specific needs. The infrastructure that delivers our Internet experiences is almost entirely Linux based, as are our mobile phones and other modern living accessories. In a few years, our heating systems will run it, along with our washing machines and fridges. The Internet of Things is coming. Desktop / Laptop computers are the last bastion of Windows and it serves them very well. I have no issues with it. -- pub 1024D/228761E7 2003-06-04 Steven Crook Key fingerprint = 1CD9 95E1 E9CE 80D6 C885 B7EB B471 80D5 2287 61E7 sub 4096R/BE3EFAA7 created: 2014-11-14 expires: 2016-11-13 usage: S |
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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 05:24:05 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
So you admit you don't know anything about Linux, but still feel qualified to comment on whether it's better or worse than anything else? Yes, and not just once either. |
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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
On 8/8/2016 1:14 PM, Bob wrote:
Linux would be the Mercedes equivalent, right? And Win-10-nic would be a YUGO .................................................. .............................. You'll never convince the world that Linux is the better OS. Been there, done that and it's a plain bitch to work with. Great for the geeks that have the time to invest in playing with it but it can be a real time waster for those that want an OS to "Just work". Linux is an OS for those people for whom time has no value. Actually, it's very useful for some software development and for embedded products that need an OS, but of course it's not a consumer product. Even in the world of embedded development, semiconductor companies have been dropping Linux development tools because it's just too much of a hassle. If there was ONE version of Linux they might have continued but they were bombarded with demands to support multiple Linux versions and they couldn't continue, so now it's Windows only. Always amusing to go to a hands-on seminar and see a load of Macbooks running Windows in order to use the development tools. Apple could greatly increase Macbook sales if they would just swallow their pride and offer dual-boot systems direct from Apple so that commercial and business customers that need to run Windows apps could do so without having to buy and install retail versions of Windows. Just charge an extra $100 for a dual-boot system. |
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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
On 08/08/16 17:23, Bob so wittily quipped:
"Big Bad Bob" wrote in message ... On 08/08/16 13:14, Bob so wittily quipped: snippage So if Linux is your choice - great, enjoy it but don't try to convince us it's problem free - it isn't. It is also one of the most hacked server OSes in the world too. Most of those big name hacks we've heard about this past year were running Linux front-ends. Not exactly a secure system but yes, it is less expensive up-front but over time, you pay. FUD noted Have no idea what FUD means in this context so feel free to spell it out. The online definitions I found don't seem to apply - good or bad. FUD = 'Fear' 'Uncertainty' and 'Doubt'. Generally does not refer to the content itself, but in the effect it creates. you said in reference to linux, things like 'it is also one of the most hacked server OSes in the world' which is TOTAL ****. You must have read that on a pro-Micro-shaft forum from a Micro-shaft shill, or from intentional anti-Linux "FUD" literature from the early noughties. There was a LOT of this kind of crap, back then. It's still circulating, too, and NONE of that **** is true. It's all Micro-**** spreading the 'Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt' about Linux because they CANNOT! PRODUCE! A! BETTER! OPERATING! SYSTEM! THEMSELVES! only NOW it's 'Embrace, Extend, Extinguish' by attempting to integrate bash with Win-10-nic. Same thing. Absorb it and add its uniqueness to their own, like "the Borg", and then FORCE everyone into THEIR solution, LOCK THEM IN, and *even* make them AFRAID to *CHANGE* (that thing so embraced by MS shills and political liberals these days) to something that's TRULY BETTER. |
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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
On 08/09/16 09:55, sms so wittily quipped:
On 8/8/2016 1:14 PM, Bob wrote: Linux would be the Mercedes equivalent, right? And Win-10-nic would be a YUGO .................................................. .............................. You'll never convince the world that Linux is the better OS. Been there, done that and it's a plain bitch to work with. Great for the geeks that have the time to invest in playing with it but it can be a real time waster for those that want an OS to "Just work". Linux is an OS for those people for whom time has no value. you are SO full of ****, you know. And so is the person you responded to. Actually, it's very useful for some software development and for embedded products that need an OS, but of course it's not a consumer product. what do you mean 'of course'. that's just BULL**** to make THAT kind of assumption/assertion. You deliberately torpedoed your attempt at "saying something nice about Linux" by the way. So transparent. Even in the world of embedded development, semiconductor companies have been dropping Linux development tools because it's just too much of a hassle. names, please. The 'Straw Man' corporation maybe? If there was ONE version of Linux they might have continued but they were bombarded with demands to support multiple Linux versions and they couldn't continue, so now it's Windows only. you are SO full of ****. if there were ONE version of Windows, we'd end up with... Win-10-nic! (yeah, THAT is an IMPROVEMENT... *NOT*) -- your story is so touching, but it sounds just like a lie "Straighten up and fly right" |
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 10:37:34 -0700
Big Bad Bob wrote: On 08/09/16 09:55, sms so wittily quipped: On 8/8/2016 1:14 PM, Bob wrote: Linux would be the Mercedes equivalent, right? And Win-10-nic would be a YUGO .................................................. .............................. You'll never convince the world that Linux is the better OS. Been there, done that and it's a plain bitch to work with. Great for the geeks that have the time to invest in playing with it but it can be a real time waster for those that want an OS to "Just work". Linux is an OS for those people for whom time has no value. you are SO full of ****, you know. And so is the person you responded to. That's snit... |
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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
On 8/9/16, 11:06 AM, in article 20160809200650.0c9348e8@maxa-pc, "Melzzzzz"
wrote: On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 10:37:34 -0700 Big Bad Bob wrote: On 08/09/16 09:55, sms so wittily quipped: On 8/8/2016 1:14 PM, Bob wrote: Linux would be the Mercedes equivalent, right? And Win-10-nic would be a YUGO .................................................. ......................... ..... You'll never convince the world that Linux is the better OS. Been there, done that and it's a plain bitch to work with. Great for the geeks that have the time to invest in playing with it but it can be a real time waster for those that want an OS to "Just work". Linux is an OS for those people for whom time has no value. you are SO full of ****, you know. And so is the person you responded to. That's snit... Yeah, I lie and spew bull**** in ways that cannot be quoted. It is am AMAZING skill I have. And then when those who troll want to "prove" otherwise they simply note my noting this and then claim that I am wrong... going into idiotic meta-debate mode without actually ever saying what they think I am wrong about. Or they act like Marek and claim I was "owned" by Peter, whatever that means, in a way that cannot be quoted... or I was busted using a sock in a way that cannot be shown... or I... well, you get the idea -- no actual evidence. Does not mean I do no wrong, of course... but those who troll me do so because they know THEY do a lot more immoral things than I do... and make more mistakes. Just amazing to watch. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE * Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0 * Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8 * Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8 * Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk * OS / Word Processor Comparison: http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c |
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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:
On 8/9/16, 11:06 AM, in article 20160809200650.0c9348e8@maxa-pc, "Melzzzzz" wrote: // snip That's snit... Yeah, I lie and spew bull**** in many ways. It is an AMAZING skill I have. I was "powned" by Peter, whatever that means. Made some corrections for you. You're welcome... -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny |
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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
In article
Snit wrote: On 8/9/16, 11:06 AM, in article 20160809200650.0c9348e8@maxa-pc, "Melzzzzz" wrote: On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 10:37:34 -0700 Big Bad Bob wrote: On 08/09/16 09:55, sms so wittily quipped: On 8/8/2016 1:14 PM, Bob wrote: Linux would be the Mercedes equivalent, right? And Win-10-nic would be a YUGO .................................................. ......................... ..... You'll never convince the world that Linux is the better OS. Been there, done that and it's a plain bitch to work with. Great for the geeks that have the time to invest in playing with it but it can be a real time waster for those that want an OS to "Just work". Linux is an OS for those people for whom time has no value. you are SO full of ****, you know. And so is the person you responded to. That's snit... Yeah, I lie and spew bull**** in ways that cannot be quoted. It is am AMAZING skill I have. And then when those who troll want to "prove" otherwise they simply note my noting this and then claim that I am wrong... going into idiotic meta-debate mode without actually ever saying what they think I am wrong about. Or they act like Marek and claim I was "owned" by Peter, whatever that means, in a way that cannot be quoted... or I was busted using a sock in a way that cannot be shown... or I... well, you get the idea -- no actual evidence. Does not mean I do no wrong, of course... but those who troll me do so because they know THEY do a lot more immoral things than I do... and make more mistakes. Just amazing to watch. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE * Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0 * Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8 * Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8 * Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk * OS / Word Processor Comparison: http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c |
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Marek Novotny wrote: On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote: On 8/9/16, 11:06 AM, in article 20160809200650.0c9348e8@maxa-pc, "Melzzzzz" wrote: // snip That's snit... Yeah, I lie and spew bull**** in many ways. It is an AMAZING skill I have. I was "powned" by Peter, whatever that means. Made some corrections for you. You're welcome... -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny |
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My Windows 8.1 is still running great and rock solid.
On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:
On 8/9/16, 12:21 PM, in article , "Marek Novotny" wrote: Yeah, I lie and spew bull**** in many ways. It is an AMAZING skill I have. I was "powned" by Peter, whatever that means. Made some corrections for you. You're welcome... What you are doing is authoring text and then falsely attributing it to me. You are being dishonest. Na... I'm helping you to be honest in the first place. You got so powned by Peter by the way. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny |
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