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This relates to PC's. If there is something similar for phones, especially Android phones, please let me know. Also, I'll publicize it if you want. Let me know. I keep notes on Notepad++ about things I want to talk about on the phone with a friend, and I usually erase the topic or quote after we talk about it. Today I erased one but needed it later. But I was able to press cntl-Z 18 times and each time it restored something I had deleted. I knew it would work once or twice, but 18 and counting. Wow. A little after that it either didn't keep a record or the record showed not deletions but additions, and Ctrl-z reversed them, which I didn't want. The text I wanted was number 11, but I kept going to see how far it would go. Ctrl-Z has far broader application than I would have expected. It works in the search box of Firefox for example. Typically, not being listed in a dropdown menu does not mean that a shortcut key that works in other programs will not work they are not list Mickey M M from Randallstown |
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On 02/13/2017 03:55 PM, micky wrote:
This relates to PC's. If there is something similar for phones, especially Android phones, please let me know. Also, I'll publicize it if you want. Let me know. I keep notes on Notepad++ about things I want to talk about on the phone with a friend, and I usually erase the topic or quote after we talk about it. Today I erased one but needed it later. But I was able to press cntl-Z 18 times and each time it restored something I had deleted. I knew it would work once or twice, but 18 and counting. Wow. A little after that it either didn't keep a record or the record showed not deletions but additions, and Ctrl-z reversed them, which I didn't want. The text I wanted was number 11, but I kept going to see how far it would go. Ctrl-Z has far broader application than I would have expected. It works in the search box of Firefox for example. Typically, not being listed in a dropdown menu does not mean that a shortcut key that works in other programs will not work they are not list Mickey M M from Randallstown This should be no surprise. If you are closing and opening notepad++ and able to ctl-z a restore, then that IS an amazing feat. There are a large number of shortcut keys that are pretty much universal on apps/programs. Ctl-V paste, Ctl-C copy are two I find works oh so many places. Ctl-Z is no exception. Try it in a word processor. Ctl-P is usually print. I know there is probably a website with a list of these, but I'll leave you and Google or Bing etc up to that task. |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:55:34 -0500, micky
wrote: This relates to PC's. If there is something similar for phones, especially Android phones, please let me know. Also, I'll publicize it if you want. Let me know. I keep notes on Notepad++ about things I want to talk about on the phone with a friend, and I usually erase the topic or quote after we talk about it. Today I erased one but needed it later. But I was able to press cntl-Z 18 times and each time it restored something I had deleted. I knew it would work once or twice, but 18 and counting. Wow. I think Notepad++ deletes it's cache of changes when you close it. If it didn't it would be a massive security risk. Windows Word keeps umpteen backups, so you should always "save as" before you mail a document. (and delete the original), or even (safer) print it to a PDF. We had a funny case here in Brazil, a very corrupt Judge ordered that an extremely corrupt friend's name (Jose Serra, a minister, the Judge was Sergio Moro) be "smudged" in all the documents handed over to the lower courts and to the press. Someone had the idea to do an "undo", and voila, the name was visible again ..... Original censored version https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-st...37578813-1.png Undo https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-st...7579035-17.png NEVER send the original ... unless you are in Brazil. No one was punished .... and the press hid it... Sergio Moro is still a Judge, and Jose Serra is still a Minister..... []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:31:22 -0500, Big Al
wrote: On 02/13/2017 03:55 PM, micky wrote: This relates to PC's. If there is something similar for phones, especially Android phones, please let me know. Also, I'll publicize it if you want. Let me know. I keep notes on Notepad++ about things I want to talk about on the phone with a friend, and I usually erase the topic or quote after we talk about it. Today I erased one but needed it later. But I was able to press cntl-Z 18 times and each time it restored something I had deleted. I knew it would work once or twice, but 18 and counting. Wow. A little after that it either didn't keep a record or the record showed not deletions but additions, and Ctrl-z reversed them, which I didn't want. The text I wanted was number 11, but I kept going to see how far it would go. Ctrl-Z has far broader application than I would have expected. It works in the search box of Firefox for example. Typically, not being listed in a dropdown menu does not mean that a shortcut key that works in other programs will not work they are not list Mickey M M from Randallstown This should be no surprise. So are you saying I'm stupid for being surpised? I think you have internet disease where you must mock anyone you can who posts. This assumes you're not like this in RL and something about the net causes it. If you want to comment on windows, or other software, do it, but ask yourself why you chose to comment on me. If you are closing and opening notepad++ and able to ctl-z a restore, then that IS an amazing feat. I thought the point was clear, not that it worked but hat it worked to 18 levels. There are a large number of shortcut keys that are pretty much universal Yes, I know, and I know everything else you included here. Most people know, but ctrl-z is in my experience neglected, And I would bet that even many people who use it would not even try to get something back that was deleted even 10 steps ago. on apps/programs. Ctl-V paste, Ctl-C copy are two I find works oh so many places. Ctl-Z is no exception. Try it in a word processor. Ctl-P is usually print. I know there is probably a website with a list of these, but I'll leave you and Google or Bing etc up to that task. |
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Dne 14/02/2017 v 01:35 Shadow napsal(a):
I think Notepad++ deletes it's cache of changes when you close it. If it didn't it would be a massive security risk. It keeps content of unsaved changes, even new, not yet saved documents, but the undo buffer is gone. -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) A wise man guards words he says, as they say about him more, than he says about the subject. |
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micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:31:22 -0500, Big Al wrote: On 02/13/2017 03:55 PM, micky wrote: This relates to PC's. If there is something similar for phones, especially Android phones, please let me know. If you plug a keyboard into an Android device I wouldn't be surprised if ctrl-z worked. Today I erased one but needed it later. But I was able to press cntl-Z 18 times and each time it restored something I had deleted. I knew it would work once or twice, but 18 and counting. Wow. A little after that it either didn't keep a record or the record showed not deletions but additions, and Ctrl-z reversed them, which I didn't want. The text I wanted was number 11, but I kept going to see how far it would go. Ctrl-Z has far broader application than I would have expected. It works in the search box of Firefox for example. Typically, not being listed in a dropdown menu does not mean that a shortcut key that works in other programs will not work they are not list Mickey M M from Randallstown This should be no surprise. So are you saying I'm stupid for being surpised? I think you have internet disease where you must mock anyone you can who posts. Why are you being so thin-skinned? No-one called you stupid. It's no surprise because ctrl-z is ubiquitous and has been for decades. This assumes you're not like this in RL and something about the net causes it. If you want to comment on windows, or other software, do it, but ask yourself why you chose to comment on me. If you are closing and opening notepad++ and able to ctl-z a restore, then that IS an amazing feat. I thought the point was clear, not that it worked but hat it worked to 18 levels. Most desktop applications have an edit history and you can scroll back through it with repeated undos. For example, I think word remembers 100 steps. There are a large number of shortcut keys that are pretty much universal Yes, I know, and I know everything else you included here. Most people know, but ctrl-z is in my experience neglected, And I would bet that even many people who use it would not even try to get something back that was deleted even 10 steps ago. Why not? It's perfectly natural to expect repeated undos to work. |
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Chris wrote:
It's no surprise because ctrl-z is ubiquitous and has been for decades. Ctrl-z had a usage before Microsoft came along. Ctrl-z had a usage before I started using computers. Previous usage: Current usage: crtl-z suspend process undo ctrl-c kill process copy ctrl-v paste The Windows 10 Bash shell will accept the definitions listed in the Previous usage. Bash isn't that old, but the things Bash is modeled after (/bin/sh and friends), predate my computer usage. And I'm sure one of the older-timers will be able to recount a usage when the computer used vacuum tubes. And there was likely a time when the keyboard didn't even have a control key. (Baudot maybe.) It looks like the teletype had a control key. I actually had to take a course in university, using one of these pigs. These were invented, to teach humans the meaning of patience :-) Some of the students hated these so much, they would shove the Shift keys down below the console. (I think these things might have been on levers, so they could be bent. The amount of force required to do this, boggles the imagination.) The repairman hated this :-) I can just imagine the man at the parts counter "you need to buy two shift levers ? whatever for ?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TTY33ASR.jpg Paul |
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:59:37 -0000, Paul wrote:
Chris wrote: It's no surprise because ctrl-z is ubiquitous and has been for decades. Ctrl-z had a usage before Microsoft came along. Ctrl-z had a usage before I started using computers. Previous usage: Current usage: crtl-z suspend process undo ctrl-c kill process copy ctrl-v paste The Windows 10 Bash shell will accept the definitions listed in the Previous usage. Bash isn't that old, but the things Bash is modeled after (/bin/sh and friends), predate my computer usage. And I'm sure one of the older-timers will be able to recount a usage when the computer used vacuum tubes. And there was likely a time when the keyboard didn't even have a control key. (Baudot maybe.) It looks like the teletype had a control key. I actually had to take a course in university, using one of these pigs. These were invented, to teach humans the meaning of patience :-) Some of the students hated these so much, they would shove the Shift keys down below the console. (I think these things might have been on levers, so they could be bent. The amount of force required to do this, boggles the imagination.) The repairman hated this :-) I can just imagine the man at the parts counter "you need to buy two shift levers ? whatever for ?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TTY33ASR.jpg Paul Chickachicka chicka! (FU to afc) -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug |
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In article , Micky wrote:
If there is something similar for phones, especially Android phones, please let me know. You're talking about the "Undo" operation -- and particularly what is known as "multi-level undo". That's certainly a feature supported by some Android *apps*, though I'm not sure how far it is supported by the system itself. Google Docs supports Undo on Android, for example. There are "Undo" and "Redo" icons on the toolbar (and, yes, Ctrl+Z and Shift+Ctrl+Z shortcuts work if your device has a keyboard). -- Cheers, Daniel. |
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On 2017-02-14 15:14, Daniel James wrote:
In article , Micky wrote: If there is something similar for phones, especially Android phones, please let me know. You're talking about the "Undo" operation -- and particularly what is known as "multi-level undo". That's certainly a feature supported by some Android *apps*, though I'm not sure how far it is supported by the system itself. It is always application dependent. Not system. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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On 2/14/2017 3:59 AM, Paul wrote:
Chris wrote: It's no surprise because ctrl-z is ubiquitous and has been for decades. Ctrl-z had a usage before Microsoft came along. Ctrl-z had a usage before I started using computers. Previous usage: Current usage: crtl-z suspend process undo ctrl-c kill process copy ctrl-v paste The Windows 10 Bash shell will accept the definitions listed in the Previous usage. Bash isn't that old, but the things Bash is modeled after (/bin/sh and friends), predate my computer usage. And I'm sure one of the older-timers will be able to recount a usage when the computer used vacuum tubes. And there was likely a time when the keyboard didn't even have a control key. (Baudot maybe.) It looks like the teletype had a control key. I actually had to take a course in university, using one of these pigs. These were invented, to teach humans the meaning of patience :-) Some of the students hated these so much, they would shove the Shift keys down below the console. (I think these things might have been on levers, so they could be bent. The amount of force required to do this, boggles the imagination.) The repairman hated this :-) I can just imagine the man at the parts counter "you need to buy two shift levers ? whatever for ?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TTY33ASR.jpg Paul Yep, I date back to using an Interdata 7/16 Mini computer with real core memory and 16 Hex switches to key in the bootstrap loader so that it could then load the actual program from paper tape on an ASR33 Teletype. The whole shebang fed a Ferranti Packard flip disk outdoor sign through a pair of 300 baud modems for advertizing. This was in 1975. Rene |
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Rene Lamontagne wrote:
[...] Yep, I date back to using an Interdata 7/16 Mini computer with real core memory and 16 Hex switches to key in the bootstrap loader so that it could then load the actual program from paper tape on an ASR33 Teletype. The whole shebang fed a Ferranti Packard flip disk outdoor sign through a pair of 300 baud modems for advertizing. This was in 1975. So what you're saying is that you're a rookie! That's OK! Plenty of time to learn! :-) -- Frank '"Hex"? What the heck is *that*!"' Slootweg, early 1968. |
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On 2/14/2017 10:42 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: [...] Yep, I date back to using an Interdata 7/16 Mini computer with real core memory and 16 Hex switches to key in the bootstrap loader so that it could then load the actual program from paper tape on an ASR33 Teletype. The whole shebang fed a Ferranti Packard flip disk outdoor sign through a pair of 300 baud modems for advertizing. This was in 1975. So what you're saying is that you're a rookie! That's OK! Plenty of time to learn! :-) Yup, still learning every day :-) Rene |
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Paul wrote:
Chris wrote: It's no surprise because ctrl-z is ubiquitous and has been for decades. Ctrl-z had a usage before Microsoft came along. Ctrl-z had a usage before I started using computers. Previous usage: Current usage: crtl-z suspend process undo ctrl-c kill process copy ctrl-v paste Agree. Indeed in linux and OSX both usages coexist. 'previous' in terminal windows and 'current' in desktop applications (replace ctrl with cmd in OSX applications obviously) The Windows 10 Bash shell will accept the definitions listed in the Previous usage. Bash isn't that old, but the things Bash is modeled after (/bin/sh and friends), predate my computer usage. Thus bringing Windows up to the same level as linux and OSX |
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On 02/13/2017 10:11 PM, micky wrote:
So are you saying I'm stupid for being surpised? I think you have internet disease where you must mock anyone you can who posts. None of the above. Sorry you took it wrong. You are reading between the lines too much. |
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