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  #31  
Old October 17th 12, 05:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default How do I get W8 RTM?

Nil wrote:

On 15 Oct 2012, G. Morgan wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

Also the "App Store" is a royal PITA to search manually. You
have to hit the 'Windows key' + 'w' to get a search box.


I'm getting the impression that Windows 8 is just about totally
unusable unless you have a Windows Key. I do not, and I don't care
to give up my beloved clicky IBM keybord just to get one.


You don't have to. http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional/

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  #32  
Old October 17th 12, 06:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 17 Oct 2012, XS11E wrote in
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You don't have to. http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional/


That does look like a nice keyboard, but pricey at $135. Thing is, I've
got 3 genuine IBM keyboards that work perfectly. I love typing on them.
They're built like tanks and will probably outlive me. I'd hate to
replace a perfectly excellent keyboard just because of that damn
Windows key. It may come down to it someday, but I will resist it as
long as I can.
  #33  
Old October 17th 12, 06:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2012-10-17, Nil wrote:
I'm getting the impression that Windows 8 is just about totally
unusable unless you have a Windows Key. I do not, and I don't care to
give up my beloved clicky IBM keybord just to get one.


The Windows key is a must to use Windows 8 effectively yes. What you can
do is map the CapsLock key as the Windows Key. Or even better, CapsLock as
Ctrl, and the left Ctrl key as the Windows key.

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  #34  
Old October 17th 12, 07:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Windows Key - Character code 0xFF
Last key in the WingDings Font in Character Map.
Try copying it in Character Map and paste it into whatever you have (mouse, keyboard) to remap.


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"Nil" wrote in message ...

Is there any other alternative? Something that would let me use a key
combination to mimic the Windows key, or remap a little-used one such
as "Scroll Lock"?

  #35  
Old October 17th 12, 12:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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SC Tom wrote:


"Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message
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SC Tom wrote:


"Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message
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SC Tom wrote:


"Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message
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SC Tom wrote:


"Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message
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...winston wrote:

"Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message
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I have heard that Windows 8 RTM is available for everyone, but
every download I see in Microsoft requires a username and
password. Can someone direct me
to a download that doesn't require a sign in?


General Availability afiak remains Oct 26.

Sure you're not downloading Windows 8 RTM 'Evaluation Version'
? - 90 day trial - not upgradeable to the final GA licensed
version


Yes, I'm getting the 90 day evaluation version. 90 days is more
than enough time to decide if I want to install it permanently.
If I do, I'll pick up a copy of the educational release at the
university IT department when it
is available.

I installed it yesterday (Enterprise Eval 64-bit), and had a few
devices that weren't picked up, or updated. One was my wireless,
but I managed to find a work-around on line. After fixing the
rest of the devices, I installed Classic Shell, and kinda like it
(Win8). I probably won't buy it when it's released, since I
haven't seen it being any faster on anything I've done with Win7,
but I have to admit that the RTM is definitely better than the
two preview versions I tried. Part of the driver problem is that
Acer hasn't released any for my Aspire V3-731 yet. I was able to
shotgun a couple of Win7 drivers in, and the others came directly
from Intel and Qualcomm-Atheros. I don't like the tiles, but with
Classic Shell I can bypass that and add a start menu. There are
still some things that won't get added that way, so
I have to drop out to the tiles to do them (one is Solitaire).
Then it gave me grief using my Live ID sign in sigh. I'll keep
it for a while and test it out, but unless I see something
radical that I haven't seen yet, I'll pull that drive and put my
Win7 one back in.

Thanks for the heads up. I haven't installed it, yet, but when I
do it will be as a dual boot with Win 7. You said you "kinda like
it." What is it you like, compared to Win 7?

I guess I should have said I kinda like the fact that it's not any
slower than Win7. It does seem leaner, but I can't truly explain
what I mean by that. It's very responsive, but that may be because
it's a fresh installation with no third-party software
installed yet.

I dislike the whole tile thing, though. Even with Classic Shell,
sooner or later, you have to drop out to the Start tiles to get to
things. I may uninstall Classic Shell (or just reinstall Win8)
and see if I can get used to the tile system, but since I couldn't
stand it in the two previews I had installed, I doubt seriously if
I'll like it any better even if it reacts faster and
more smoothly.

I probably will buy it, even if I don't install it right away. I
had forgotten about the new PC $15 upgrade until I saw it in
another newsgroup. Since I just bought a new laptop last month, I
qualify for it. $15 for a new operating system? Hard to pass
*that* up :-)

I have friends in low places, like the university IT department, so
I can get it cheap. I didn't pay anything for Windows 7 Ultimate.

I know I won't ever like the tiles. I have been running with icon
free desktops since Windows 95. I use the task bar for my frequently
used items. I was disappointed when I discovered that Windows 7 no
longer allowed an active desktop, but I figured out how to work
around it. This serves as my living room clock:
http://crash.thedatalist.com/temp/desktop.jpg There are also some
hidden features that show up with a mouseover.

Oh, I know what you mean about desktop icons. I've been icon free
since 98/XP (I don't recall I was any further back than that). I look
at my SO's desktop and wonder how she finds anything :-0


Except for the few items shown on the taskbar, I use the Start menu and
Explorer for everything.

Does your background behind the clock change, or is it part of the
clock? I think I could get used to the clock :-) Where did you get
it, or did you write it?


The background is part of the clock, but it is selectable. I wrote all
the code for the clock, including a separate script that generated the
hands and dials, also selectable. The weather information is read from a
local weather website.


Kudos! That's a nice desktop!


Thank you. You can see why I am not interested in a screen filled with
tiles.
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  #36  
Old October 17th 12, 01:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:20:24 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote in
article ...

If you want the ultimate Win8 machine, here it is:

http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-US

Bill's answer to the iPad :-)



Ordered one last night (I love my job!), should have it by 10/26. Then
I'll get to see for myself if Windows 8 is really any better on a
tablet than I've found it to be on a desktop workstation.

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  #37  
Old October 17th 12, 04:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:20:24 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote in
article ...

If you want the ultimate Win8 machine, here it is:

http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-US

Bill's answer to the iPad :-)



Ordered one last night (I love my job!), should have it by 10/26. Then
I'll get to see for myself if Windows 8 is really any better on a
tablet than I've found it to be on a desktop workstation.


I'll be waiting to hear how you like it. Since I don't have a need for a
tablet, I won't be getting one, but I can see where they would have been
useful when I was working IT way back when.
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  #38  
Old October 17th 12, 08:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:28:40 -0400, Nil wrote:

On 16 Oct 2012, Paul wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

Simple. Plug in a second keyboard. Leave it off
to the side of your normal sitting position. If
you need obscure keys, reach for the other keyboard.

If you only have to generate those sequences
infrequently, it wouldn't be a big deal.


If you could see my desk, you'd know there wasn't room for another
keyboard.

Maybe I'll hire a servant to hold it quietly in the corner and press it
on my command. Or a trained monkey, if it can be taught to poop in a
box and not the floor. Or maybe this is a good reason to finally have
some children. Thanks, Microsoft for helping me to continue my
bloodline!

Is there any other alternative? Something that would let me use a key
combination to mimic the Windows key, or remap a little-used one such
as "Scroll Lock"?


The trick is to find a way to mimic pressing a second key while holding
the Windows key down.

I'm not sure that the suggestions by Paul and ...winston would do that.

OK- here's what I did just now using Nil's idea - with the mouse I
clicked and held the on-screen Windows key, then pressed e on the
physical keyboard. It worked just like the real thing.

Cool.

I didn't try ...winston's idea, but it's surely worth a look.


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  #39  
Old October 18th 12, 01:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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I'm getting the impression that Windows 8 is just about totally
unusable unless you have a Windows Key. I do not, and I don't care to
give up my beloved clicky IBM keybord just to get one.


You don't have to give up the clicky feel. That's called bucking spring
technology and there's a company that still makes keyboards using it and
also have a Windows key

http://pckeyboard.com

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Old October 18th 12, 01:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 10/18/2012 8:13 AM, Tom Lake wrote:
I'm getting the impression that Windows 8 is just about totally
unusable unless you have a Windows Key. I do not, and I don't care to
give up my beloved clicky IBM keybord just to get one.


You don't have to give up the clicky feel. That's called bucking spring
technology and there's a company that still makes keyboards using it and
also have a Windows key

http://pckeyboard.com

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Oops! I meant "buckling" of course! I don't like bucking springs at all!

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Old October 18th 12, 05:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Tom Lake wrote:

I'm getting the impression that Windows 8 is just about totally
unusable unless you have a Windows Key. I do not, and I don't
care to give up my beloved clicky IBM keybord just to get one.


You don't have to give up the clicky feel. That's called buckling
spring technology and there's a company that still makes keyboards
using it and also have a Windows key

http://pckeyboard.com


And many more. Just Google "clicky keyboard" and check out the hits!

http://www.clickykeyboards.com/
http://www.daskeyboard.com/
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/cate...name=Keyboards



P. S. Tom, I added the "l" for you!





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  #42  
Old October 18th 12, 06:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 18 Oct 2012, Tom Lake wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

You don't have to give up the clicky feel. That's called bucking
spring technology and there's a company that still makes keyboards
using it and also have a Windows key

http://pckeyboard.com


Yeah, I know, but I have not just one, but THREE perfectly working IBM
keyboards (sometimes dumpster diving pays off!) and I don't relish
paying 100+ $s for a new one that may or may not be as well-made, just
for one extra key. I will resist as long as I can.

 




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