XP will not install on new hard drive

Am trying to install XP on new hdd. I have orig. XP disk from Dell. After
initial
copying of temp files, the computer reboots and then nothing. I think this
is because
it is not seeing the hard drive which is a SATA drive. It is seen in the
BIOs but
not in installation. I cannot change settings for SATA in Bios. I have not
been
able to find SATA drivers for the F6 choice in setup. MS mentions this
problem in
ScsiCfgSet.exe but no longer supports this. I cannot install utility files
from another
Dell disk until I install XP. I do have the TxtSetUp.OEM file but no driver.
Your help will be sincerely appreciated.
Thank You,
Don

Go to Dell site, specific to your tag and download / make the sata
controller floppy.
Although if you have the Dell utility disk the 'make sata floppy' may be on
the disk

"DTrider" wrote in message
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Am trying to install XP on new hdd. I have orig. XP disk from Dell.
After
initial
copying of temp files, the computer reboots and then nothing. I think
this
is because
it is not seeing the hard drive which is a SATA drive. It is seen in the
BIOs but
not in installation. I cannot change settings for SATA in Bios. I have
not
been
able to find SATA drivers for the F6 choice in setup. MS mentions this
problem in
ScsiCfgSet.exe but no longer supports this. I cannot install utility
files
from another
Dell disk until I install XP. I do have the TxtSetUp.OEM file but no
driver.
Your help will be sincerely appreciated.
Thank You,
Don

Go to Dell site, specific to your tag and download / make the sata
controller floppy.
Although if you have the Dell utility disk the 'make sata floppy' may be on
the disk

"DTrider" wrote in message
news
Am trying to install XP on new hdd. I have orig. XP disk from Dell.
After
initial
copying of temp files, the computer reboots and then nothing. I think
this
is because
it is not seeing the hard drive which is a SATA drive. It is seen in the
BIOs but
not in installation. I cannot change settings for SATA in Bios. I have
not
been
able to find SATA drivers for the F6 choice in setup. MS mentions this
problem in
ScsiCfgSet.exe but no longer supports this. I cannot install utility
files
from another
Dell disk until I install XP. I do have the TxtSetUp.OEM file but no
driver.
Your help will be sincerely appreciated.
Thank You,
Don

DTrider wrote:
Am trying to install XP on new hdd. I have orig. XP disk from Dell. After
initial
copying of temp files, the computer reboots and then nothing. I think this
is because
it is not seeing the hard drive which is a SATA drive. It is seen in the
BIOs but
not in installation. I cannot change settings for SATA in Bios. I have not
been
able to find SATA drivers for the F6 choice in setup. MS mentions this
problem in
ScsiCfgSet.exe but no longer supports this. I cannot install utility files
from another
Dell disk until I install XP. I do have the TxtSetUp.OEM file but no driver.
Your help will be sincerely appreciated.
Thank You,
Don

If you had mentioned the make and model of computer you were installing on,
or make and model of retail motherboard you bought for this computer,
it would be easier to comment on your dilemma.

Is this a Dell computer in original condition, on which you're using the Dell CD,
and is the Dell CD even from the same generation of computing ? (In other words,
are you using some Dell CD, not intended for this particular computer ?)

What would happen, if the Dell CD corresponded to the WinXP Gold (original release)
content ? Would that handle SATA ? Sometimes there is a BIOS setting, that can help
(such as Intel "compatible" mode).

Paul

DTrider wrote:
Am trying to install XP on new hdd. I have orig. XP disk from Dell. After
initial
copying of temp files, the computer reboots and then nothing. I think this
is because
it is not seeing the hard drive which is a SATA drive. It is seen in the
BIOs but
not in installation. I cannot change settings for SATA in Bios. I have not
been
able to find SATA drivers for the F6 choice in setup. MS mentions this
problem in
ScsiCfgSet.exe but no longer supports this. I cannot install utility files
from another
Dell disk until I install XP. I do have the TxtSetUp.OEM file but no driver.
Your help will be sincerely appreciated.
Thank You,
Don

If you had mentioned the make and model of computer you were installing on,
or make and model of retail motherboard you bought for this computer,
it would be easier to comment on your dilemma.

Is this a Dell computer in original condition, on which you're using the Dell CD,
and is the Dell CD even from the same generation of computing ? (In other words,
are you using some Dell CD, not intended for this particular computer ?)

What would happen, if the Dell CD corresponded to the WinXP Gold (original release)
content ? Would that handle SATA ? Sometimes there is a BIOS setting, that can help
(such as Intel "compatible" mode).

Paul

Hi DL and Paul,

Thanks for your suggestions. PC is orig. Dell GX280, 40 gbHd, 528mbram.
I do have the orig. install disks and will look for Sata driver there. I'm
a little
surprised that the driver was not bundled with the XP disk but the XP disk
just
contains the OS. I should know to give make/model info when making post.
Sorry

Thanks again,

Hi DL and Paul,

Thanks for your suggestions. PC is orig. Dell GX280, 40 gbHd, 528mbram.
I do have the orig. install disks and will look for Sata driver there. I'm
a little
surprised that the driver was not bundled with the XP disk but the XP disk
just
contains the OS. I should know to give make/model info when making post.
Sorry

Thanks again,

DTrider wrote:
Hi DL and Paul,

Thanks for your suggestions. PC is orig. Dell GX280, 40 gbHd, 528mbram.
I do have the orig. install disks and will look for Sata driver there. I'm
a little
surprised that the driver was not bundled with the XP disk but the XP disk
just
contains the OS. I should know to give make/model info when making post.
Sorry

Thanks again,



The chipset could be Intel 915G/ICH6. The Dell site isn't clear about that,
choosing to say "Grantsdale" for the chipset. And since your OS is not installed
right now, it would be a little hard to run a utility to verify it :-(

http://support.dell.com/support/edoc....htm#wp1132975

Try "Compatible" mode. See this section.

Drive Controller Configures the serial ATA controller's operating mode.
*Normal* enables the serial ATA controller to operate in
its serial ATA native mode only. *Compatible* enables the
serial ATA controller to operate in serial/parallel ATA
combination mode.

The "Compatible" mode is supposed to work for OSes as old as Win98 and as new
as Windows 7. It fools the software into thinking there are two ribbon cables
with up to four drives. The SATA ports are made to look like they're PATA as
well.

The WinXP Gold (original release), should work with "Compatible" mode. If
the Dell CD corresponds to SP1 or later, then either mode should have worked.
There is no particular need to install an Intel driver via F6, unless:

1) The chipset supports RAID (ICH6R)
2) You plan on either installing RAID immediately, or at some future date,
plan on experimenting with RAID. If you see RAID in your future, then
installing the RAID driver from the first day, makes sense.

Now, a good question would be, what would you do if you were stuck in
"Native" mode for some reason, and had a WinXP Gold CD. I'm not sure the
Intel Matrix driver, in F6 package format, would install on a vanilla ICH6.
It would be expecting an ICH6R.

I looked in the Matrix driver, and these are the devices it supports.

ExcludeFromSelect=PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2652&CC_0106
ExcludeFromSelect=PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2653&CC_0106

I looked in the ICH6 Specification Update (301474.pdf) and these
are the entries there.

2651h 03h 04h 05h ICH6
2652h 03h 04h 05h ICH6R
2653h 03h 04h N/A ICH6-M

So the Matrix driver doesn't mention "2651" or ICH6 as being supported.
And that is what I suspect is on your motherboard, as it is probably
$3 cheaper than ICH6R.

Somehow, you'd need to slipstream some Service Pack into the Dell CD,
and I don't know if you can do that or not.

In any case, I'm hoping a BIOS setting of "Compatible", will fix you up,
and that will be enough to get the job done.

If you need background info, on what "Native" and "Compatible" do, try
PDF page 11 here. Page 11 provides most of the value that the document
has to offer. The rest of it is harder to follow. While this document
explains how Intel did things for the ICH5, the ICH6 will share most
of the same characteristics.

"ICH5 Programmer’s Reference Manual"

http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/manual/252671.pdf

Paul

DTrider wrote:
Hi DL and Paul,

Thanks for your suggestions. PC is orig. Dell GX280, 40 gbHd, 528mbram.
I do have the orig. install disks and will look for Sata driver there. I'm
a little
surprised that the driver was not bundled with the XP disk but the XP disk
just
contains the OS. I should know to give make/model info when making post.
Sorry

Thanks again,



The chipset could be Intel 915G/ICH6. The Dell site isn't clear about that,
choosing to say "Grantsdale" for the chipset. And since your OS is not installed
right now, it would be a little hard to run a utility to verify it :-(

http://support.dell.com/support/edoc....htm#wp1132975

Try "Compatible" mode. See this section.

Drive Controller Configures the serial ATA controller's operating mode.
*Normal* enables the serial ATA controller to operate in
its serial ATA native mode only. *Compatible* enables the
serial ATA controller to operate in serial/parallel ATA
combination mode.

The "Compatible" mode is supposed to work for OSes as old as Win98 and as new
as Windows 7. It fools the software into thinking there are two ribbon cables
with up to four drives. The SATA ports are made to look like they're PATA as
well.

The WinXP Gold (original release), should work with "Compatible" mode. If
the Dell CD corresponds to SP1 or later, then either mode should have worked.
There is no particular need to install an Intel driver via F6, unless:

1) The chipset supports RAID (ICH6R)
2) You plan on either installing RAID immediately, or at some future date,
plan on experimenting with RAID. If you see RAID in your future, then
installing the RAID driver from the first day, makes sense.

Now, a good question would be, what would you do if you were stuck in
"Native" mode for some reason, and had a WinXP Gold CD. I'm not sure the
Intel Matrix driver, in F6 package format, would install on a vanilla ICH6.
It would be expecting an ICH6R.

I looked in the Matrix driver, and these are the devices it supports.

ExcludeFromSelect=PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2652&CC_0106
ExcludeFromSelect=PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2653&CC_0106

I looked in the ICH6 Specification Update (301474.pdf) and these
are the entries there.

2651h 03h 04h 05h ICH6
2652h 03h 04h 05h ICH6R
2653h 03h 04h N/A ICH6-M

So the Matrix driver doesn't mention "2651" or ICH6 as being supported.
And that is what I suspect is on your motherboard, as it is probably
$3 cheaper than ICH6R.

Somehow, you'd need to slipstream some Service Pack into the Dell CD,
and I don't know if you can do that or not.

In any case, I'm hoping a BIOS setting of "Compatible", will fix you up,
and that will be enough to get the job done.

If you need background info, on what "Native" and "Compatible" do, try
PDF page 11 here. Page 11 provides most of the value that the document
has to offer. The rest of it is harder to follow. While this document
explains how Intel did things for the ICH5, the ICH6 will share most
of the same characteristics.

"ICH5 Programmer’s Reference Manual"

http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/manual/252671.pdf

Paul

If your MB has an IDE connector, this adapter will solve the problem. Install with the Adapter. Then when XP is
installed, you can move the hard drive to native SATA.

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822998001

Carl

On 5/3/2010 10:01 PM, DTrider wrote:
Am trying to install XP on new hdd. I have orig. XP disk from Dell. After
initial
copying of temp files, the computer reboots and then nothing. I think this
is because
it is not seeing the hard drive which is a SATA drive. It is seen in the
BIOs but
not in installation. I cannot change settings for SATA in Bios. I have not
been
able to find SATA drivers for the F6 choice in setup. MS mentions this
problem in
ScsiCfgSet.exe but no longer supports this. I cannot install utility files
from another
Dell disk until I install XP. I do have the TxtSetUp.OEM file but no driver.
Your help will be sincerely appreciated.
Thank You,
Don

If your MB has an IDE connector, this adapter will solve the problem. Install with the Adapter. Then when XP is
installed, you can move the hard drive to native SATA.

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822998001

Carl

On 5/3/2010 10:01 PM, DTrider wrote:
Am trying to install XP on new hdd. I have orig. XP disk from Dell. After
initial
copying of temp files, the computer reboots and then nothing. I think this
is because
it is not seeing the hard drive which is a SATA drive. It is seen in the
BIOs but
not in installation. I cannot change settings for SATA in Bios. I have not
been
able to find SATA drivers for the F6 choice in setup. MS mentions this
problem in
ScsiCfgSet.exe but no longer supports this. I cannot install utility files
from another
Dell disk until I install XP. I do have the TxtSetUp.OEM file but no driver.
Your help will be sincerely appreciated.
Thank You,
Don