Cloned disk

Varouj wrote:
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Varouj wrote:
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I cloned the old disk to the new SSD using Acronis image and it
worked. I took out the old disk and put the new SSDe it it's
place.

Acronis 2011 failed to clone to a SSD for me. It errored when it
tried to write the first time. So which one did you use? Paragon
Drive Copy v11 worked flawless for me.

I used Acronis true image 2014.
Although , in the manual, it advises to use the backup procedure,
I used the cloning and it worked.
It did not clone the OEM partition although there is a partition
for it but empty.

If you want to stick with Acronis I would follow the advice they give
you and do a full backup and restore that into the new drive in
position, you didnt say Samsung before, thats what mine was too
and I
put a complaint into them re their non working software and they
admitted it! See my feedback report for others on Amazon re 120gb
Samsung EVO 840. Get your partitions on the drive sucessfully before
thinking about alignment etc. C+

Thank you Charlie for your answer.
The problem is that I do not know if everything is OK or not.
Everything seems to be working perfectly.
I had made a clone of the original drive on an external usb drive
(the one that did not boot) and when I compare the new SSD with
that they are similar. The only discrepancy is that the size of the
OEM partition differ : one is 39 and the other 40MB.
The Windows administration tool says the OEM partitons on both
disks are 100% free ??? but another program : Active Partition
MAnager shows 31.1/40 Mb on the SSD and 30.3/39 on the cloned drive.
(I have made screen captures of the results of both programs, I can
mail them to you : I don't know if I'm allowed to send pictures on
this forum).
The machine does load faster but not as fast as some of the remarks
on Amazon say.
I am afraid to restore from the full backup of Acronis.
According to their manual, the partitions must be restored
separatly and for each one, there has to be a space before and
space after with the positions and the sizes. It seems complicated
and open door for mistakes.
Is there a way to check that the system is what it should be ?
TIA

Firstly I dont profess expertise! just been down a similar path to
yours.
Did you take my previous advice and make sure not to wipe your original
HDD, if you did follow the advice then you still have all your options
open?!
A quick check to see if your recovery patition is functional might
be to
start the recovery to the first screens and stop at the confirmation
screen. Otherwise you need a Partition-ing program to examine the
contents of hidden partitions and see if data is there. Quite often
Linux etc.
With regard to speed - you can only get the full advantage if you
have a
SATA 3 connection (6GB/s) for your hard disk, if the laptop is old then
you certainly will have an earlier SATA version - this Lenovo has SATA2
which is 3GB/s and it boots in about 25s but the real advantage is in
the speed of operation, MSWord loads in 2s and say CorelDRAW (a big
prog.) will load in less than 3s. C+

Yes I took your advise and the original disk is still here and I have
SATA2. Now I know why it is not as fast as it can be.
The original problem was that the machine shut off all by itself
without any blue screen or warning or message.
I had ran the Dell tests and the only thing that was not "normal" was
a SMART error on the disk. When I called Dell they told me that the
disk was beginning to fail and I had to change it. I took the
opportunity to change it to an SSD.
Now, with the new SSD, the original problem is here again.
Sometimes, the computer just shuts off.
It happens mostly when I am on Skype and/or one specific (Bejeweled)
silly game on chrome. I got rid of the game but I do need skype.
It does not happen when I watch utube videos, excel, world, mesnews,
thunderbird or browse the web.
Now that I know it does not come from the disk how can I know what is
wrong ? Unfortunatly it is not something I can make happen.
(sorry if this should have been a new topic)
Varouj

Do you monitor the CPU temperature ?

The CPU is protected by THERMTRIP. At around 100C, it can
cause the computer to abruptly shut off. Doing so,
causes the file system to be "dirty". And then you
need a CHKDSK, to make sure all is well.

You can get SpeedFan, and if your computer has a hardware
monitor interface on the SuperI/O, then SpeedFan can give
you a CPU temperature readout. Another utility is CoreTemp,
which is specifically for CPUs with digital readouts from
the silicon die. CoreTemp is for newer processors. I don't
know the support status of RealTemp and CoreTemp, as to
which programs are regularly maintained. SpeedFan has
had good support, for years, so I don't worry about that
one too much.

http://www.almico.com/speedfan449.exe

(similar to CoreTemp)
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

I don't know right off hand, who the developer is on this.
To find out, I might have to go through some
xtremesystems.org forums postings, to find out.
I would sooner use SpeedFan, if it could indicate
the problem was temperature.

http://www.pcworld.com/product/1002260/core-temp.html
http://alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

*******

An overheating video card, I don't think that can shut
off the computer. There is no signal to do that
directly. If a video card overheats, it can get so
hot, that the plastic on the fan body melts. If the
fan ever stops spinning on a video card, it can get
pretty hot.

******

And as has been discussed here recently, the ATX power
supply can cause abrupt shutoff. Draw too much power
from a weak or failing supply, it can overheat internally,
and the supply can shut itself off when overheated.
They put a sensor on the heatsink, to detect
extremes for the power components (MOSFETs, rectifiers
and the like).

Paul

Thank you Paul for all this info.
I downloaded speedfan.
I wanted to specify this a portable.
Is there a way to have the temp of the cpu and other components on the
screen or the task bar all the time?

You can leave it on your screen, while you test.

Speedfan (and other utilities of this sort) can generate
log files. For Speedfan, that's a .csv file (so if you
cannot find it, look for a .csv file). This shows an
example of adding items to be logged. The items to be
logged, can be different than the items selected in
the Charts view. So must be configured as a separate step.

http://i60.tinypic.com/aoxelf.gif

For the .csv log to be useful, the file would need
to be closed after each reading. To avoid the possibility
of the .csv being corrupted when the computer power goes off.

Paul

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Paul a formulé la demande :
Varouj wrote:
Dans son message précédent, Charlie+ a écrit :
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:14:29 +0200, Varouj
wrote as underneath :

Après mûre réflexion, Charlie+ a écrit :
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 12:23:34 +0200, Varouj
wrote as underneath :

BillW50 avait prétendu :
In ,
Varouj typed:
I cloned the old disk to the new SSD using Acronis image and it
worked. I took out the old disk and put the new SSDe it it's place.

Acronis 2011 failed to clone to a SSD for me. It errored when it tried
to write the first time. So which one did you use? Paragon Drive Copy
v11 worked flawless for me.

I used Acronis true image 2014.
Although , in the manual, it advises to use the backup procedure, I
used the cloning and it worked.
It did not clone the OEM partition although there is a partition for it
but empty.

If you want to stick with Acronis I would follow the advice they give
you and do a full backup and restore that into the new drive in
position, you didnt say Samsung before, thats what mine was too and I
put a complaint into them re their non working software and they
admitted it! See my feedback report for others on Amazon re 120gb
Samsung EVO 840. Get your partitions on the drive sucessfully before
thinking about alignment etc. C+

Thank you Charlie for your answer.
The problem is that I do not know if everything is OK or not.
Everything seems to be working perfectly.
I had made a clone of the original drive on an external usb drive (the
one that did not boot) and when I compare the new SSD with that they are
similar. The only discrepancy is that the size of the OEM partition
differ : one is 39 and the other 40MB.
The Windows administration tool says the OEM partitons on both disks are
100% free ??? but another program : Active Partition MAnager shows
31.1/40 Mb on the SSD and 30.3/39 on the cloned drive.
(I have made screen captures of the results of both programs, I can mail
them to you : I don't know if I'm allowed to send pictures on this
forum).
The machine does load faster but not as fast as some of the remarks on
Amazon say.

You mention "laptop". Mine has shut off unexpectedly a couple of times
now. Each time I simply took out the vacuum cleaner and sucked/blowed
thru the fan/vent holes. Everytime it was build-up of what I presume in
my case is animal hair as have four cats and a collie type dog all with
free range of house except dog not allowed upstairs in bedrooms. In any
case, problem appears to go away afterwards for long period of time. In
fact just had to do it again last month after year or so and laptop has
had no problems since.