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MS crap & more to come I bet
Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly but had to replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either (device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take out add-on card and back to just stereo sound. What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation. Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone number to call. I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product is over 11 years old now!!! Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it. |
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MS crap & more to come I bet
On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 19:45:53 -0300, pjp wrote:
Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly I'm no genius, but my guess is that the power supply crapped out and took a bunch of other things with it. I'm surprised that the motherboard still works. Oh, you meant that you don't know *why* the power supply crapped out. Sorry, I don't know, either. Sometimes they just die. but had to replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either (device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take out add-on card and back to just stereo sound. What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation. Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone number to call. In another thread, there's a small sidetrack dealing with unauthorized "activation tools". All I can say is that they generally work a treat! What took you 3 hours could have taken a minute or so, theoretically. I don't have anything on hand for Office 2003 since it's so old now, but I remember seeing certain tools back in the day. I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product is over 11 years old now!!! Nothing is supported forever... Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it. -- Char Jackson |
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pjp wrote, On 7/3/2014 6:45 PM:
Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly but had to replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either (device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take out add-on card and back to just stereo sound. What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation. Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone number to call. I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product is over 11 years old now!!! Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it. Issues with activating Office 2003 have existed for more than a few years. In the past (prior to April 2014 when Office 2003 support officially ended) some folks reported success using: (a) US number for Office activation issues: (888) 652-2342 or (b) Country specific number on the following Volume Licensing link http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/e...n-centers.aspx Also note that the MSFT KB article 'How to activate a Microsoft product by using Microsoft Product Activation Center' now contains items about end of life/support for XP and Office 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950929 With Office 2003 Support ending in April 2014, success though with any method might be a challenge. Good luck, let us know how it goes. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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pjp wrote, On 7/4/2014 1:06 AM:
In article , says... pjp wrote, On 7/3/2014 6:45 PM: Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly but had to replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either (device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take out add-on card and back to just stereo sound. What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation. Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone number to call. I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product is over 11 years old now!!! Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it. Issues with activating Office 2003 have existed for more than a few years. In the past (prior to April 2014 when Office 2003 support officially ended) some folks reported success using: (a) US number for Office activation issues: (888) 652-2342 or (b) Country specific number on the following Volume Licensing link http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/e...n-centers.aspx Also note that the MSFT KB article 'How to activate a Microsoft product by using Microsoft Product Activation Center' now contains items about end of life/support for XP and Office 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950929 With Office 2003 Support ending in April 2014, success though with any method might be a challenge. Good luck, let us know how it goes. Well I got sys back enough to use and it finally activated over the internet. Question is, if you have no internet how does one go about getting it activated? I'm in 60's now and if wife goes first my plan is to move back to camp I plan on building on back forty (so to speak, have 100+ acres) without power (except my own) and certainly no outside tv source or internet. I have a huge library of music (10,000+ cds) and videos (concerts - 700+, movies - 1000's, etc.) already and that's certain to grow. The procedure implies any future new pc or laptop (a certainty at some point we agree I'm sure) I want to install Office 2003 on (legal copy btw) must have some internet connection before being able to use it. That ain't right. There was no mention of that when purchasing product. That simple, need I go on? Glad to hear activation over the net was successful. That would seem to indicate the activation servers for XP and Office 2003 are still functional. (?) As far as how long that functions I would be skeptical of anything or anyone except MSFT that claims successful activation for a no longer supported product would be capable in perpetuity (it might be prudent to keep those phone numbers handy for use in the future or on the back forty). -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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You got it right on char on the power supply issue.
especially if its an hp or Compaq with the known to fail best tech or best data power supply or early model hi pro power supply's that i have changed hundreds of in my clients systems. iam surprised as well it didn't take out the whole mother board as well. I use only antech or pc power and cooling power supply's in the systems i build or my own. -- AL'S COMPUTERS "Char Jackson" wrote in message ... On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 19:45:53 -0300, pjp wrote: Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly I'm no genius, but my guess is that the power supply crapped out and took a bunch of other things with it. I'm surprised that the motherboard still works. Oh, you meant that you don't know *why* the power supply crapped out. Sorry, I don't know, either. Sometimes they just die. but had to replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either (device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take out add-on card and back to just stereo sound. What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation. Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone number to call. In another thread, there's a small sidetrack dealing with unauthorized "activation tools". All I can say is that they generally work a treat! What took you 3 hours could have taken a minute or so, theoretically. I don't have anything on hand for Office 2003 since it's so old now, but I remember seeing certain tools back in the day. I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product is over 11 years old now!!! Nothing is supported forever... Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it. -- Char Jackson |
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 02:06:04 -0300, pjp wrote:
In article , says... I'm in 60's now and if wife goes first my plan is to move back to camp I plan on building on back forty (so to speak, have 100+ acres) without power (except my own) and certainly no outside tv source or internet. I have a huge library of music (10,000+ cds) and videos (concerts - 700+, movies - 1000's, etc.) already and that's certain to grow. What's your plan for generating electrical power? Generator(s)? Solar? Something else? I'm curious because where I live now, quite a few of the houses around me have solar panels on their roof and the people I've talked to tell me that their power bill is either very low or sometimes even zero. Oddly, we have local laws here forbidding the electric company from having to pay for any excess electrical power generated by customers and fed back into the grid. The power company lobbied successfully to get that power for free. -- Char Jackson |
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lid says... On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 02:06:04 -0300, pjp wrote: In article , says... I'm in 60's now and if wife goes first my plan is to move back to camp I plan on building on back forty (so to speak, have 100+ acres) without power (except my own) and certainly no outside tv source or internet. I have a huge library of music (10,000+ cds) and videos (concerts - 700+, movies - 1000's, etc.) already and that's certain to grow. What's your plan for generating electrical power? Generator(s)? Solar? Something else? I'm curious because where I live now, quite a few of the houses around me have solar panels on their roof and the people I've talked to tell me that their power bill is either very low or sometimes even zero. Oddly, we have local laws here forbidding the electric company from having to pay for any excess electrical power generated by customers and fed back into the grid. The power company lobbied successfully to get that power for free. Basically solar and wind with wood heat as most of property is woods anyways I'm up higher than surroundings with a very open field available, e.g. flies seldom any problem, some breeze almost always blowing. Any more produced I can't immediately use or store will go to ground as plan is to basically "make world go away" except for fuel, bank/bills and food/booze day idea. I want enough power for few lights at night, run guitar amp and stereo (it'll have to be "toned down" from current for power consumption reasons), watch a concert or movie etc. Get in habit of bed at dusk up at dawn, winters will take care of that with wood heat That said I won't mind augmenting it with running a generator "x" hours a day. I know price of gas ain't getting cheaper but neither is price of power company. As it stands right now, I figure I could run a mid size generator (2000-5000 watts) for approx. 3 hours per day every day of month and spend no more on gas than power company would charge me. During those three hours one could easily recharge large bank of batteries and still have surplus to run pump for gravity fed water, heat water for shower etc. etc. Yes, it'd take a regimen for style of life but I've already been there for periods in this life. I put on the house a sunporch couple years ago. Bought almost all the lumber from a local farmer cuts his own so it's a real 4x4 and 2x6 etc! In short, a 22'x8' sunporch with five 4'x4' windows across front and a 4'x5' at end with normal window and door at other end. Insulated 4" styro, floor walls and ceiling. Single pane of plexiglass for windows which was biggest single expense at over $600. Concrete footings, all rough lumber, bought sheathing insulation and siding. Total cost $1800 as I did it all myself. We've been wondering for awhile now why didn't do it sooner. I figure a 20'x20' camp, same amount of insulation but better windows (I'm saving them up from old trailers etc.) I can get so inside "left to be done" idea for under $3000 perhaps even under $2500. Do it right and I'll never even see a tax for it as why would anyone come looking in first place as you won't be able to just drive there and no grid connection at all I should mention, only neighbour I can see is 1/2 mile up road on other side and that's only at end of driveway. In two places on property during winter one can see a house, in summer their outside light. Perfect spot for telescope. I'd been checking for a telescope feeds directly to a pc rather than some eyepeice "add-on", haven't found one yet. I told power company when they asked after buying place that if they put a light in on post at end of driveway they better give me an Off switch or light wouldn't last long. Next day they took the standard of the pole LOL. |
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| That ain't right. There was no mention of that when purchasing product.
| That simple, need I go on? It ain't right. But you bought it. If people refused to buy crippled software it wouldn't be sold. If you're going to buy it you should go in with your eyes open and consider the risks. |
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". . .winston" wrote:
pjp wrote, On 7/3/2014 6:45 PM: Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly but had to replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either (device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take out add-on card and back to just stereo sound. What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation. Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone number to call. I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product is over 11 years old now!!! Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it. Issues with activating Office 2003 have existed for more than a few years. In the past (prior to April 2014 when Office 2003 support officially ended) some folks reported success using: (a) US number for Office activation issues: (888) 652-2342 or (b) Country specific number on the following Volume Licensing link http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/e...n-centers.aspx Also note that the MSFT KB article 'How to activate a Microsoft product by using Microsoft Product Activation Center' now contains items about end of life/support for XP and Office 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950929 With Office 2003 Support ending in April 2014, success though with any method might be a challenge. Good luck, let us know how it goes. If you had an "image" wouldn't that eliminate activation ? -- Zaidy036 |
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Zaidy036 wrote, On 7/4/2014 1:27 PM:
If you had an "image" wouldn't that eliminate activation ? In most cases yes. Restoring an image returns the system to what 'it' was (e.g. activated) at an earlier point in time. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 04:51:30 -0300, pjp wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 02:06:04 -0300, pjp wrote: In article , says... I'm in 60's now and if wife goes first my plan is to move back to camp I plan on building on back forty (so to speak, have 100+ acres) without power (except my own) and certainly no outside tv source or internet. I have a huge library of music (10,000+ cds) and videos (concerts - 700+, movies - 1000's, etc.) already and that's certain to grow. What's your plan for generating electrical power? Generator(s)? Solar? Something else? I'm curious because where I live now, quite a few of the houses around me have solar panels on their roof and the people I've talked to tell me that their power bill is either very low or sometimes even zero. Oddly, we have local laws here forbidding the electric company from having to pay for any excess electrical power generated by customers and fed back into the grid. The power company lobbied successfully to get that power for free. Basically solar and wind with wood heat as most of property is woods anyways details snipped I suppose you have some motivation for doing what you're planning, but I could only do it if I really had to. I would certainly not live off the grid voluntarily, although one of my brothers has been talking about doing something similar. -- Char Jackson |
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:51:13 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote: Zaidy036 wrote, On 7/4/2014 1:27 PM: If you had an "image" wouldn't that eliminate activation ? In most cases yes. Restoring an image returns the system to what 'it' was (e.g. activated) at an earlier point in time. An exception being if you restore the image to a new computer, as I once did when my motherboard died. It detected too many hardware changes and needed to be reactivated. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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Steve Hayes wrote, On 7/5/2014 1:28 AM:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:51:13 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Zaidy036 wrote, On 7/4/2014 1:27 PM: If you had an "image" wouldn't that eliminate activation ? In most cases yes. Restoring an image returns the system to what 'it' was (e.g. activated) at an earlier point in time. An exception being if you restore the image to a new computer, as I once did when my motherboard died. It detected too many hardware changes and needed to be reactivated. Validation checking (for OEM and retail versions of Windows) can bark pretty loudly when changing mobos. The op's issues centered on Office 2003...its been so long since I've even seen or used Office 2003 I can't recall if a mobo change with a restored image impacted its activated status or not. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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