MS crap & more to come I bet

Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly but had to
replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears
fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added
a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either
(device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take
out add-on card and back to just stereo sound.

What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation.
Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone
support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it
activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone
number to call.

I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product
is over 11 years old now!!!

Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later
Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without
obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 19:45:53 -0300, pjp wrote:



Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly

I'm no genius, but my guess is that the power supply crapped out and took a
bunch of other things with it. I'm surprised that the motherboard still
works.

Oh, you meant that you don't know *why* the power supply crapped out. Sorry,
I don't know, either. Sometimes they just die.

but had to
replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears
fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added
a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either
(device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take
out add-on card and back to just stereo sound.

What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation.
Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone
support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it
activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone
number to call.

In another thread, there's a small sidetrack dealing with unauthorized
"activation tools". All I can say is that they generally work a treat! What
took you 3 hours could have taken a minute or so, theoretically. I don't
have anything on hand for Office 2003 since it's so old now, but I remember
seeing certain tools back in the day.


I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product
is over 11 years old now!!!

Nothing is supported forever...

Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later
Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without
obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it.


--

Char Jackson

pjp wrote, On 7/3/2014 6:45 PM:


Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly but had to
replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears
fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added
a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either
(device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take
out add-on card and back to just stereo sound.

What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation.
Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone
support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it
activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone
number to call.

I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product
is over 11 years old now!!!

Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later
Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without
obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it.


Issues with activating Office 2003 have existed for more than a few years.

In the past (prior to April 2014 when Office 2003 support officially
ended) some folks reported success using:
(a) US number for Office activation issues: (888) 652-2342
or
(b) Country specific number on the following Volume Licensing link

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/e...n-centers.aspx

Also note that the MSFT KB article 'How to activate a Microsoft product
by using Microsoft Product Activation Center' now contains items about
end of life/support for XP and Office 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950929


With Office 2003 Support ending in April 2014, success though with any
method might be a challenge.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.


--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

In article , says...

pjp wrote, On 7/3/2014 6:45 PM:


Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly but had to
replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears
fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added
a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either
(device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take
out add-on card and back to just stereo sound.

What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation.
Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone
support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it
activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone
number to call.

I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product
is over 11 years old now!!!

Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later
Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without
obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it.


Issues with activating Office 2003 have existed for more than a few years.

In the past (prior to April 2014 when Office 2003 support officially
ended) some folks reported success using:
(a) US number for Office activation issues: (888) 652-2342
or
(b) Country specific number on the following Volume Licensing link

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/e...n-centers.aspx

Also note that the MSFT KB article 'How to activate a Microsoft product
by using Microsoft Product Activation Center' now contains items about
end of life/support for XP and Office 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950929


With Office 2003 Support ending in April 2014, success though with any
method might be a challenge.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.

Well I got sys back enough to use and it finally activated over the
internet.

Question is, if you have no internet how does one go about getting it
activated?

I'm in 60's now and if wife goes first my plan is to move back to camp I
plan on building on back forty (so to speak, have 100+ acres) without
power (except my own) and certainly no outside tv source or internet. I
have a huge library of music (10,000+ cds) and videos (concerts - 700+,
movies - 1000's, etc.) already and that's certain to grow.

The procedure implies any future new pc or laptop (a certainty at some
point we agree I'm sure) I want to install Office 2003 on (legal copy
btw) must have some internet connection before being able to use it.

That ain't right. There was no mention of that when purchasing product.
That simple, need I go on?

pjp wrote, On 7/4/2014 1:06 AM:
In article , says...

pjp wrote, On 7/3/2014 6:45 PM:


Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly but had to
replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears
fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added
a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either
(device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take
out add-on card and back to just stereo sound.

What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation.
Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone
support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it
activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone
number to call.

I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product
is over 11 years old now!!!

Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later
Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without
obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it.


Issues with activating Office 2003 have existed for more than a few years.

In the past (prior to April 2014 when Office 2003 support officially
ended) some folks reported success using:
(a) US number for Office activation issues: (888) 652-2342
or
(b) Country specific number on the following Volume Licensing link

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/e...n-centers.aspx

Also note that the MSFT KB article 'How to activate a Microsoft product
by using Microsoft Product Activation Center' now contains items about
end of life/support for XP and Office 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950929


With Office 2003 Support ending in April 2014, success though with any
method might be a challenge.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.

Well I got sys back enough to use and it finally activated over the
internet.

Question is, if you have no internet how does one go about getting it
activated?

I'm in 60's now and if wife goes first my plan is to move back to camp I
plan on building on back forty (so to speak, have 100+ acres) without
power (except my own) and certainly no outside tv source or internet. I
have a huge library of music (10,000+ cds) and videos (concerts - 700+,
movies - 1000's, etc.) already and that's certain to grow.

The procedure implies any future new pc or laptop (a certainty at some
point we agree I'm sure) I want to install Office 2003 on (legal copy
btw) must have some internet connection before being able to use it.

That ain't right. There was no mention of that when purchasing product.
That simple, need I go on?

Glad to hear activation over the net was successful.

That would seem to indicate the activation servers for XP and Office
2003 are still functional. (?)

As far as how long that functions I would be skeptical of anything or
anyone except MSFT that claims successful activation for a no longer
supported product would be capable in perpetuity (it might be prudent to
keep those phone numbers handy for use in the future or on the back forty).


--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

You got it right on char on the power supply issue.
especially if its an hp or Compaq with the known to fail best tech or best
data power supply or early model hi pro power supply's that i have changed
hundreds of in my clients systems.
iam surprised as well it didn't take out the whole mother board as well.
I use only antech or pc power and cooling power supply's in the systems i
build or my own.


--
AL'S COMPUTERS
"Char Jackson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 19:45:53 -0300, pjp wrote:



Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly

I'm no genius, but my guess is that the power supply crapped out and took
a
bunch of other things with it. I'm surprised that the motherboard still
works.

Oh, you meant that you don't know *why* the power supply crapped out.
Sorry,
I don't know, either. Sometimes they just die.

but had to
replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears
fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added
a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either
(device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take
out add-on card and back to just stereo sound.

What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation.
Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone
support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it
activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone
number to call.

In another thread, there's a small sidetrack dealing with unauthorized
"activation tools". All I can say is that they generally work a treat!
What
took you 3 hours could have taken a minute or so, theoretically. I don't
have anything on hand for Office 2003 since it's so old now, but I
remember
seeing certain tools back in the day.


I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product
is over 11 years old now!!!

Nothing is supported forever...

Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later
Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without
obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it.


--

Char Jackson

On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 02:06:04 -0300, pjp wrote:

In article , says...

I'm in 60's now and if wife goes first my plan is to move back to camp I
plan on building on back forty (so to speak, have 100+ acres) without
power (except my own) and certainly no outside tv source or internet. I
have a huge library of music (10,000+ cds) and videos (concerts - 700+,
movies - 1000's, etc.) already and that's certain to grow.

What's your plan for generating electrical power? Generator(s)? Solar?
Something else? I'm curious because where I live now, quite a few of the
houses around me have solar panels on their roof and the people I've talked
to tell me that their power bill is either very low or sometimes even zero.
Oddly, we have local laws here forbidding the electric company from having
to pay for any excess electrical power generated by customers and fed back
into the grid. The power company lobbied successfully to get that power for
free.

--

Char Jackson

In article ,
lid says...

On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 02:06:04 -0300, pjp wrote:

In article , says...

I'm in 60's now and if wife goes first my plan is to move back to camp I
plan on building on back forty (so to speak, have 100+ acres) without
power (except my own) and certainly no outside tv source or internet. I
have a huge library of music (10,000+ cds) and videos (concerts - 700+,
movies - 1000's, etc.) already and that's certain to grow.

What's your plan for generating electrical power? Generator(s)? Solar?
Something else? I'm curious because where I live now, quite a few of the
houses around me have solar panels on their roof and the people I've talked
to tell me that their power bill is either very low or sometimes even zero.
Oddly, we have local laws here forbidding the electric company from having
to pay for any excess electrical power generated by customers and fed back
into the grid. The power company lobbied successfully to get that power for
free.

Basically solar and wind with wood heat as most of property is woods
anyways I'm up higher than surroundings with a very open field
available, e.g. flies seldom any problem, some breeze almost always
blowing. Any more produced I can't immediately use or store will go to
ground as plan is to basically "make world go away" except for fuel,
bank/bills and food/booze day idea. I want enough power for few lights
at night, run guitar amp and stereo (it'll have to be "toned down" from
current for power consumption reasons), watch a concert or movie etc.
Get in habit of bed at dusk up at dawn, winters will take care of that
with wood heat

That said I won't mind augmenting it with running a generator "x" hours
a day. I know price of gas ain't getting cheaper but neither is price of
power company. As it stands right now, I figure I could run a mid size
generator (2000-5000 watts) for approx. 3 hours per day every day of
month and spend no more on gas than power company would charge me.
During those three hours one could easily recharge large bank of
batteries and still have surplus to run pump for gravity fed water, heat
water for shower etc. etc. Yes, it'd take a regimen for style of life
but I've already been there for periods in this life.

I put on the house a sunporch couple years ago. Bought almost all the
lumber from a local farmer cuts his own so it's a real 4x4 and 2x6 etc!
In short, a 22'x8' sunporch with five 4'x4' windows across front and a
4'x5' at end with normal window and door at other end. Insulated 4"
styro, floor walls and ceiling. Single pane of plexiglass for windows
which was biggest single expense at over $600. Concrete footings, all
rough lumber, bought sheathing insulation and siding. Total cost $1800
as I did it all myself. We've been wondering for awhile now why didn't
do it sooner.

I figure a 20'x20' camp, same amount of insulation but better windows
(I'm saving them up from old trailers etc.) I can get so inside "left to
be done" idea for under $3000 perhaps even under $2500. Do it right and
I'll never even see a tax for it as why would anyone come looking in
first place as you won't be able to just drive there and no grid
connection at all

I should mention, only neighbour I can see is 1/2 mile up road on other
side and that's only at end of driveway. In two places on property
during winter one can see a house, in summer their outside light.
Perfect spot for telescope. I'd been checking for a telescope feeds
directly to a pc rather than some eyepeice "add-on", haven't found one
yet.

I told power company when they asked after buying place that if they put
a light in on post at end of driveway they better give me an Off switch
or light wouldn't last long. Next day they took the standard of the pole
LOL.

| That ain't right. There was no mention of that when purchasing product.
| That simple, need I go on?

It ain't right. But you bought it. If people refused
to buy crippled software it wouldn't be sold. If you're
going to buy it you should go in with your eyes open
and consider the risks.

". . .winston" wrote:
pjp wrote, On 7/3/2014 6:45 PM:


Just had a system failure. Unsure what happened exactly but had to
replace a power supply to get it back up. Add-on display card appears
fried so back to on-board for a bit and then nic wouldn't work so added
a nic after disabling onboard nic to get that working. No sound either
(device can't start) so still more to do, e.g. enable on-board and take
out add-on card and back to just stereo sound.

What I got fed up with though is Office 2003 demanding re-activation.
Ok, only took 3 hours trying because they no longer provide phone
support for that product!!! Makes me wonder how I'm supposed to get it
activated if/when there's no internet connection available with no phone
number to call.

I know profanity isn't kosher in newsgroups but MS F*ck Of*, the product
is over 11 years old now!!!

Yea, I got a copy of Office 2007, never used it no need and any later
Office isn't anything I'm interested in but I should ALWAYS without
obsticles be able to edit a document using the product that created it.


Issues with activating Office 2003 have existed for more than a few years.

In the past (prior to April 2014 when Office 2003 support officially
ended) some folks reported success using:
(a) US number for Office activation issues: (888) 652-2342
or
(b) Country specific number on the following Volume Licensing link

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/e...n-centers.aspx

Also note that the MSFT KB article 'How to activate a Microsoft product
by using Microsoft Product Activation Center' now contains items about
end of life/support for XP and Office 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950929


With Office 2003 Support ending in April 2014, success though with any
method might be a challenge.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.


If you had an "image" wouldn't that eliminate activation ?

--
Zaidy036

Zaidy036 wrote, On 7/4/2014 1:27 PM:

If you had an "image" wouldn't that eliminate activation ?


In most cases yes. Restoring an image returns the system to what 'it'
was (e.g. activated) at an earlier point in time.

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 04:51:30 -0300, pjp wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 02:06:04 -0300, pjp wrote:

In article , says...

I'm in 60's now and if wife goes first my plan is to move back to camp I
plan on building on back forty (so to speak, have 100+ acres) without
power (except my own) and certainly no outside tv source or internet. I
have a huge library of music (10,000+ cds) and videos (concerts - 700+,
movies - 1000's, etc.) already and that's certain to grow.

What's your plan for generating electrical power? Generator(s)? Solar?
Something else? I'm curious because where I live now, quite a few of the
houses around me have solar panels on their roof and the people I've talked
to tell me that their power bill is either very low or sometimes even zero.
Oddly, we have local laws here forbidding the electric company from having
to pay for any excess electrical power generated by customers and fed back
into the grid. The power company lobbied successfully to get that power for
free.

Basically solar and wind with wood heat as most of property is woods
anyways details snipped

I suppose you have some motivation for doing what you're planning, but I
could only do it if I really had to. I would certainly not live off the grid
voluntarily, although one of my brothers has been talking about doing
something similar.

--

Char Jackson

On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:51:13 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Zaidy036 wrote, On 7/4/2014 1:27 PM:

If you had an "image" wouldn't that eliminate activation ?


In most cases yes. Restoring an image returns the system to what 'it'
was (e.g. activated) at an earlier point in time.

An exception being if you restore the image to a new computer, as I once did
when my motherboard died. It detected too many hardware changes and needed to
be reactivated.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

Steve Hayes wrote, On 7/5/2014 1:28 AM:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:51:13 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Zaidy036 wrote, On 7/4/2014 1:27 PM:

If you had an "image" wouldn't that eliminate activation ?


In most cases yes. Restoring an image returns the system to what 'it'
was (e.g. activated) at an earlier point in time.

An exception being if you restore the image to a new computer, as I once did
when my motherboard died. It detected too many hardware changes and needed to
be reactivated.


Validation checking (for OEM and retail versions of Windows) can bark
pretty loudly when changing mobos.

The op's issues centered on Office 2003...its been so long since I've
even seen or used Office 2003 I can't recall if a mobo change with a
restored image impacted its activated status or not.



--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps