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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
I have been working through some of the ideas suggested on this news group
in connection with my sudden change in startup time but still no joy. I have tried defragging the disks to see if it could be a disk problem given the cd icon that appears after the welcome screen appears. I have also checked to see if the "dirty" bit on the disc is set causing Autochk to run at boot but it is not set. Whether Autochk is running or not I do not know. So the next thing I tried was to run Chkdsk from the popup dyalog box with both disk options checked. I then shutdown the machine and restarted to allow Chkdsk to run on startup. Well it did but only as far as the intial boot that is when I assume Chkdsk kicked in but it went no further at least in the two hours I left the machine alone. The disk light was on all the time but the screen did not come on. I tried running Chkdsk on another machine and a pale blue screen appeared and told me what Chkdsk was doing. For those that understand these things the hardware set up is: IDE Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce(tm) RAID Class Controller SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0 SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0 Disk Drive NVIDIA STRIPE 465.77G (465 GB) Any ideas welcome. Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
Graham
Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems. Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune (freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00. http://www.hdtune.com/ Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full surface scan with HD Tune. Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System Information. Open Components under System Summary and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed there? Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties, Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graham wrote: I have been working through some of the ideas suggested on this news group in connection with my sudden change in startup time but still no joy. I have tried defragging the disks to see if it could be a disk problem given the cd icon that appears after the welcome screen appears. I have also checked to see if the "dirty" bit on the disc is set causing Autochk to run at boot but it is not set. Whether Autochk is running or not I do not know. So the next thing I tried was to run Chkdsk from the popup dyalog box with both disk options checked. I then shutdown the machine and restarted to allow Chkdsk to run on startup. Well it did but only as far as the intial boot that is when I assume Chkdsk kicked in but it went no further at least in the two hours I left the machine alone. The disk light was on all the time but the screen did not come on. I tried running Chkdsk on another machine and a pale blue screen appeared and told me what Chkdsk was doing. For those that understand these things the hardware set up is: IDE Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce(tm) RAID Class Controller SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0 SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0 Disk Drive NVIDIA STRIPE 465.77G (465 GB) Any ideas welcome. Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
Graham
Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems. Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune (freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00. http://www.hdtune.com/ Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full surface scan with HD Tune. Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System Information. Open Components under System Summary and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed there? Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties, Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graham wrote: I have been working through some of the ideas suggested on this news group in connection with my sudden change in startup time but still no joy. I have tried defragging the disks to see if it could be a disk problem given the cd icon that appears after the welcome screen appears. I have also checked to see if the "dirty" bit on the disc is set causing Autochk to run at boot but it is not set. Whether Autochk is running or not I do not know. So the next thing I tried was to run Chkdsk from the popup dyalog box with both disk options checked. I then shutdown the machine and restarted to allow Chkdsk to run on startup. Well it did but only as far as the intial boot that is when I assume Chkdsk kicked in but it went no further at least in the two hours I left the machine alone. The disk light was on all the time but the screen did not come on. I tried running Chkdsk on another machine and a pale blue screen appeared and told me what Chkdsk was doing. For those that understand these things the hardware set up is: IDE Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce(tm) RAID Class Controller SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0 SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0 Disk Drive NVIDIA STRIPE 465.77G (465 GB) Any ideas welcome. Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
"Gerry" wrote in message ... Graham Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems. Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune (freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00. http://www.hdtune.com/ Thanks Gerry. I have just found reference to the /C and /I switches for Chkdsk and I have managed to run it successfully from the command prompt and it is telling me there are problems on the disk and to rerun using the /F switch to fix them. The article also says this can take a long time. Would you recommend that I follow your suggestion first or run Chkdsk again overnight and see what happens. I also came across a reference to the BootOptimise under the Defrag registry setting in the context of system start problems. Mine is enabled but the registry entries are saying that the boot defrag was incomplete because of insufficient space. I do not understand the reason as the disks are not much more than 10% full: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOpt imizeFunction] "Enable"="Y" "LcnStartLocation"="106458717" "LcnEndLocation"="106714340" "OptimizeComplete"="No" "OptimizeError"="Insufficient free space" Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System Information. Open Components under System Summary and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed there? No Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties, Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code? None Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
"Gerry" wrote in message ... Graham Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems. Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune (freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00. http://www.hdtune.com/ Thanks Gerry. I have just found reference to the /C and /I switches for Chkdsk and I have managed to run it successfully from the command prompt and it is telling me there are problems on the disk and to rerun using the /F switch to fix them. The article also says this can take a long time. Would you recommend that I follow your suggestion first or run Chkdsk again overnight and see what happens. I also came across a reference to the BootOptimise under the Defrag registry setting in the context of system start problems. Mine is enabled but the registry entries are saying that the boot defrag was incomplete because of insufficient space. I do not understand the reason as the disks are not much more than 10% full: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOpt imizeFunction] "Enable"="Y" "LcnStartLocation"="106458717" "LcnEndLocation"="106714340" "OptimizeComplete"="No" "OptimizeError"="Insufficient free space" Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System Information. Open Components under System Summary and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed there? No Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties, Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code? None Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
Graham
That registry entry is new to me. I think you are correct it is indicating a problem. I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report . Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it is more informative. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graham wrote: "Gerry" wrote in message ... Graham Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems. Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune (freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00. http://www.hdtune.com/ Thanks Gerry. I have just found reference to the /C and /I switches for Chkdsk and I have managed to run it successfully from the command prompt and it is telling me there are problems on the disk and to rerun using the /F switch to fix them. The article also says this can take a long time. Would you recommend that I follow your suggestion first or run Chkdsk again overnight and see what happens. I also came across a reference to the BootOptimise under the Defrag registry setting in the context of system start problems. Mine is enabled but the registry entries are saying that the boot defrag was incomplete because of insufficient space. I do not understand the reason as the disks are not much more than 10% full: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOpt imizeFunction] "Enable"="Y" "LcnStartLocation"="106458717" "LcnEndLocation"="106714340" "OptimizeComplete"="No" "OptimizeError"="Insufficient free space" Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System Information. Open Components under System Summary and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed there? No Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties, Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code? None Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
Graham
That registry entry is new to me. I think you are correct it is indicating a problem. I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report . Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it is more informative. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graham wrote: "Gerry" wrote in message ... Graham Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems. Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune (freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00. http://www.hdtune.com/ Thanks Gerry. I have just found reference to the /C and /I switches for Chkdsk and I have managed to run it successfully from the command prompt and it is telling me there are problems on the disk and to rerun using the /F switch to fix them. The article also says this can take a long time. Would you recommend that I follow your suggestion first or run Chkdsk again overnight and see what happens. I also came across a reference to the BootOptimise under the Defrag registry setting in the context of system start problems. Mine is enabled but the registry entries are saying that the boot defrag was incomplete because of insufficient space. I do not understand the reason as the disks are not much more than 10% full: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOpt imizeFunction] "Enable"="Y" "LcnStartLocation"="106458717" "LcnEndLocation"="106714340" "OptimizeComplete"="No" "OptimizeError"="Insufficient free space" Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System Information. Open Components under System Summary and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed there? No Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties, Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code? None Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
"Gerry" wrote in message ... Graham That registry entry is new to me. I think you are correct it is indicating a problem. I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report . OK here it is: Volume (C Volume size = 466 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 32.37 GB Free space = 433 GB Percent free space = 93 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation = 1 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 115,367 Average file size = 489 KB Total fragmented files = 514 Total excess fragments = 1,720 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 2.00 GB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 10,780 Fragmented folders = 6 Excess folder fragments = 11 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 131 MB MFT record count = 127,430 Percent MFT in use = 94 % Total MFT fragments = 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Most fragmented files 310 30 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SO FTWARE 100 1 KB \Documents and Settings\Graham\NtUser.dat.LOG 74 6 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1013 73 5 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267853.dll 71 4 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267852.dll 71 67 MB \WINDOWS\system32\LogFiles\WMI\trace.log 35 5 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1014 34 8 MB \Documents and Settings\Eleanor\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\afl3ad4t.default\Cac he\D6505856d01 32 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267819.mfl 25 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267861.dll 25 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267800.dll 25 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\A0267832.dll 25 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\software.LOG 19 1 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267855.mfl 19 3 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1004 17 1 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267818.mfl 13 18 MB \Documents and Settings\Graham\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\7zg5l8so.default\pla ces.sqlite 13 10 MB \Documents and Settings\Eleanor\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\afl3ad4t.default\pla ces.sqlite 10 151 KB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\change.log 10 409 KB \WINDOWS\Prefetch\Layout.ini 10 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\default.LOG 9 1 KB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\ntuser.dat.LOG 8 30 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SO FTWARE 8 3 MB \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Support\MPLog-02042008-103016.log 8 12 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SY STEM 8 584 KB \Program Files\Microsoft Bootvis\BootVis.exe 7 6 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECT S.DATA 7 4 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1015 7 1 KB \Documents and Settings\LocalService\ntuser.dat.LOG 7 3 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1004 Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter. I did all that at the start of my attempts to solve this problem with the exception of the system restore points as I am always reluctant to get rid of older ones just in case I want to roll back in time if all else fails. When I ran the disk defrag analysis above it told me there was no need to defrag the disk which is not surprising as I did it so recently. Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
"Gerry" wrote in message ... Graham That registry entry is new to me. I think you are correct it is indicating a problem. I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report . OK here it is: Volume (C Volume size = 466 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 32.37 GB Free space = 433 GB Percent free space = 93 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation = 1 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 115,367 Average file size = 489 KB Total fragmented files = 514 Total excess fragments = 1,720 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 2.00 GB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 10,780 Fragmented folders = 6 Excess folder fragments = 11 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 131 MB MFT record count = 127,430 Percent MFT in use = 94 % Total MFT fragments = 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Most fragmented files 310 30 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SO FTWARE 100 1 KB \Documents and Settings\Graham\NtUser.dat.LOG 74 6 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1013 73 5 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267853.dll 71 4 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267852.dll 71 67 MB \WINDOWS\system32\LogFiles\WMI\trace.log 35 5 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1014 34 8 MB \Documents and Settings\Eleanor\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\afl3ad4t.default\Cac he\D6505856d01 32 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267819.mfl 25 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267861.dll 25 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267800.dll 25 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\A0267832.dll 25 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\software.LOG 19 1 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267855.mfl 19 3 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1004 17 1 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267818.mfl 13 18 MB \Documents and Settings\Graham\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\7zg5l8so.default\pla ces.sqlite 13 10 MB \Documents and Settings\Eleanor\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\afl3ad4t.default\pla ces.sqlite 10 151 KB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\change.log 10 409 KB \WINDOWS\Prefetch\Layout.ini 10 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\default.LOG 9 1 KB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\ntuser.dat.LOG 8 30 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SO FTWARE 8 3 MB \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Support\MPLog-02042008-103016.log 8 12 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SY STEM 8 584 KB \Program Files\Microsoft Bootvis\BootVis.exe 7 6 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECT S.DATA 7 4 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1015 7 1 KB \Documents and Settings\LocalService\ntuser.dat.LOG 7 3 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1004 Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter. I did all that at the start of my attempts to solve this problem with the exception of the system restore points as I am always reluctant to get rid of older ones just in case I want to roll back in time if all else fails. When I ran the disk defrag analysis above it told me there was no need to defrag the disk which is not surprising as I did it so recently. Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
"Gerry" wrote in message ... Graham Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems. Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune (freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00. http://www.hdtune.com/ OK done. Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Nothing of any note other than the drive details appear on this page. Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full surface scan with HD Tune. Nothing at all on this page. The full scan returned no damaged sectors and the sector graphic was entirely green. This is looking more and more like a corrupt file problem. Lets hope an overnight run of Chkdsk can sort it out!!! Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
"Gerry" wrote in message ... Graham Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems. Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune (freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00. http://www.hdtune.com/ OK done. Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Nothing of any note other than the drive details appear on this page. Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full surface scan with HD Tune. Nothing at all on this page. The full scan returned no damaged sectors and the sector graphic was entirely green. This is looking more and more like a corrupt file problem. Lets hope an overnight run of Chkdsk can sort it out!!! Graham. |
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"Graham" wrote in message ... [Snip] Hopefully the final installment!! My machine booted normally this morning for the second morning in a row. I eventually got Chkdsk to run with /r. It still did not throw up the pale blue screen telling me what it was doing it simply sat there with a black/blank screen for about 2 hours. It did however create a log saying it had run successfully and of what it had done (not a great deal) which I could read from the Winlogon entry in the Event Viewer. Anyone know how to get Chkdsk to show me what it is doing in future? I also checked the hard drive and that was shown to be healthy and attempted to run Bootvis but it would not run on my machine. One article I read said it did not like SATA. Whilst researching Bootvis problems I came across reference to the the BootOptimiseFunction registry key. I checked mine and it was showing an error. So I deleted all but the Enable sub-key - set to Y - (having taken a back up) and then ran "rundll32 advapi32 ProcessIdleTasks" which I had discovered was what Bootvis runs to optimise the boot files. This replaced the sub keys I had deleted and they indicated that the process had now run successfully. Next my research suggested that my problem could possibly be caused by a protected windows file problem that could be caused by some updates amongst other things. So I ran "sfc /scannow" which then asked me for my Windows XP installation disk and proceeded to replace a number of files with the originals from the disk. From now on I have set Windows updater to ask me what it should download and install so I can check this out if my machine slows down again. Now unfortunately I cannot say whether one or the combination of both the above fixed the problem as I did them both during the same day. Although I did restarts in between each just to check I had not broken anything. The machine only exhibited the original problem on the first boot of the day after an overnight shutdown and not on a restart. The last two mornings it has booted up quickly as it had done before this problem began. Hopefully it will now continue to do so. Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
"Graham" wrote in message ... [Snip] Hopefully the final installment!! My machine booted normally this morning for the second morning in a row. I eventually got Chkdsk to run with /r. It still did not throw up the pale blue screen telling me what it was doing it simply sat there with a black/blank screen for about 2 hours. It did however create a log saying it had run successfully and of what it had done (not a great deal) which I could read from the Winlogon entry in the Event Viewer. Anyone know how to get Chkdsk to show me what it is doing in future? I also checked the hard drive and that was shown to be healthy and attempted to run Bootvis but it would not run on my machine. One article I read said it did not like SATA. Whilst researching Bootvis problems I came across reference to the the BootOptimiseFunction registry key. I checked mine and it was showing an error. So I deleted all but the Enable sub-key - set to Y - (having taken a back up) and then ran "rundll32 advapi32 ProcessIdleTasks" which I had discovered was what Bootvis runs to optimise the boot files. This replaced the sub keys I had deleted and they indicated that the process had now run successfully. Next my research suggested that my problem could possibly be caused by a protected windows file problem that could be caused by some updates amongst other things. So I ran "sfc /scannow" which then asked me for my Windows XP installation disk and proceeded to replace a number of files with the originals from the disk. From now on I have set Windows updater to ask me what it should download and install so I can check this out if my machine slows down again. Now unfortunately I cannot say whether one or the combination of both the above fixed the problem as I did them both during the same day. Although I did restarts in between each just to check I had not broken anything. The machine only exhibited the original problem on the first boot of the day after an overnight shutdown and not on a restart. The last two mornings it has booted up quickly as it had done before this problem began. Hopefully it will now continue to do so. Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
Graham
Bootvis is a tool Microsoft withdrew. I cannot say why but it was some years ago. Originally it was available on their site but now only from third parties. The lack of detailed results of what the chkdsk does has always been a complaint. A useful source of information about hard drives is HD Tune. However, it does not report on file and volume structures. Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems. Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune (freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00. http://www.hdtune.com/ Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full surface scan with HD Tune. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graham wrote: "Graham" wrote in message ... [Snip] Hopefully the final installment!! My machine booted normally this morning for the second morning in a row. I eventually got Chkdsk to run with /r. It still did not throw up the pale blue screen telling me what it was doing it simply sat there with a black/blank screen for about 2 hours. It did however create a log saying it had run successfully and of what it had done (not a great deal) which I could read from the Winlogon entry in the Event Viewer. Anyone know how to get Chkdsk to show me what it is doing in future? I also checked the hard drive and that was shown to be healthy and attempted to run Bootvis but it would not run on my machine. One article I read said it did not like SATA. Whilst researching Bootvis problems I came across reference to the the BootOptimiseFunction registry key. I checked mine and it was showing an error. So I deleted all but the Enable sub-key - set to Y - (having taken a back up) and then ran "rundll32 advapi32 ProcessIdleTasks" which I had discovered was what Bootvis runs to optimise the boot files. This replaced the sub keys I had deleted and they indicated that the process had now run successfully. Next my research suggested that my problem could possibly be caused by a protected windows file problem that could be caused by some updates amongst other things. So I ran "sfc /scannow" which then asked me for my Windows XP installation disk and proceeded to replace a number of files with the originals from the disk. From now on I have set Windows updater to ask me what it should download and install so I can check this out if my machine slows down again. Now unfortunately I cannot say whether one or the combination of both the above fixed the problem as I did them both during the same day. Although I did restarts in between each just to check I had not broken anything. The machine only exhibited the original problem on the first boot of the day after an overnight shutdown and not on a restart. The last two mornings it has booted up quickly as it had done before this problem began. Hopefully it will now continue to do so. Graham. |
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Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time
Graham
Bootvis is a tool Microsoft withdrew. I cannot say why but it was some years ago. Originally it was available on their site but now only from third parties. The lack of detailed results of what the chkdsk does has always been a complaint. A useful source of information about hard drives is HD Tune. However, it does not report on file and volume structures. Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems. Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune (freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00. http://www.hdtune.com/ Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full surface scan with HD Tune. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graham wrote: "Graham" wrote in message ... [Snip] Hopefully the final installment!! My machine booted normally this morning for the second morning in a row. I eventually got Chkdsk to run with /r. It still did not throw up the pale blue screen telling me what it was doing it simply sat there with a black/blank screen for about 2 hours. It did however create a log saying it had run successfully and of what it had done (not a great deal) which I could read from the Winlogon entry in the Event Viewer. Anyone know how to get Chkdsk to show me what it is doing in future? I also checked the hard drive and that was shown to be healthy and attempted to run Bootvis but it would not run on my machine. One article I read said it did not like SATA. Whilst researching Bootvis problems I came across reference to the the BootOptimiseFunction registry key. I checked mine and it was showing an error. So I deleted all but the Enable sub-key - set to Y - (having taken a back up) and then ran "rundll32 advapi32 ProcessIdleTasks" which I had discovered was what Bootvis runs to optimise the boot files. This replaced the sub keys I had deleted and they indicated that the process had now run successfully. Next my research suggested that my problem could possibly be caused by a protected windows file problem that could be caused by some updates amongst other things. So I ran "sfc /scannow" which then asked me for my Windows XP installation disk and proceeded to replace a number of files with the originals from the disk. From now on I have set Windows updater to ask me what it should download and install so I can check this out if my machine slows down again. Now unfortunately I cannot say whether one or the combination of both the above fixed the problem as I did them both during the same day. Although I did restarts in between each just to check I had not broken anything. The machine only exhibited the original problem on the first boot of the day after an overnight shutdown and not on a restart. The last two mornings it has booted up quickly as it had done before this problem began. Hopefully it will now continue to do so. Graham. |
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