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  #16  
Old September 9th 13, 05:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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So I want access to the computer and won't change because
Microsoft says I should!


You have as much "access to the computer" with Win 8 as you do/did with any
previous OS.

Just out of curiosity, just what is it you want to access and what do you
want to do with it? Regardless, it is probably a bad idea.


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Old September 9th 13, 06:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 10:41:49 -0500, wrote:

On 09 Sep 2013 14:38:04 GMT, "Bucky \"Optimist\" Breeder"
wrote:


Hang in there on Windows 8! Like all things, you'll get used to it and
adapt to it. It'll still be " s - t - 0 - 0 - p - i - d " ; but, you will
get used to it - and be up with the times as a bonus for no extra charge.

HTH.

Well, I probably won't live that long --but I'll try that
after XP stops upgrades and then Win 7 stops upgrades.
Being "up with the times" is not high on my list --- I don't even
own anything with a touch screen and, so fa,r haven't found any reason
to do so.



I don't own anything with a touch screen either.

Please remember that Windows 8 has two interfaces--the metro/modern
interface that is apparently all you've looked at, and the desktop
interface. The desktop interface is almost exactly like Windows 8's,
especially if you install a utility like Start8.

If you do nothing but use the metro/modern interface, Windows 8 is
very different from what you are accustomed to and takes time to get
used to it. But as I've said several times, using the metro/modern
interface is *not* a requirement of running Windows 8.

Being "up with the times" *should* be high on your list. It gives you
better security and keeps you compatible with newer and better
software and hardware as they come out.


What is the expression ? Ah, --- "he's old and set in his
ways". :-)



I'm almost as old as you; I'm 75, but I'm not as set in my ways as you
are. Living in the past is dangerous and not wise.

  #20  
Old September 9th 13, 06:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:11:57 -0400, Juan Wei
wrote:

has written on 9/9/2013 11:41 AM:

Being "up with the times" is not high on my list --- I don't even
own anything with a touch screen and, so fa,r haven't found any reason
to do so. What is the expression ? Ah, --- "he's old and set in his
ways". :-)


I have a friend who is 79. He is completely non-technical and HATES
change. Recently, I convinced him to dump his XP machine that he
complained was running very slowly and had him buy an inexpensive Win 8
all-in-one. I fixed it up with StartIsBack ($3.00) and a couple of extra
tricks, so that it boots to the log in screen and then goes directly to
the desktop. He has had ZERO trouble using it. In fact, he has no idea
that it's running Win 8.


Well first one would have to know that all these add-ons existed,
then how to use them etc. I installed classic Shell and downloaded
and installed some software and moved some stuff from older
computers. But just trivial stuff --- find directories, scan
directories, store in specific directories, make directories , etc
etc are all mysteries. I';v already become the standing joke in
the Win 8 group because of all the dumb questions.
And at my age, why bother ??
I'll worry about that stuff after they stop upgrading Win 7
rather that beating my head against a wall making Win 8
imitate Win 7.



to the command line, hidden files, all the Windows management tools, etc.

No touch screens in either of the above.

P.S. I did the same for friend's wife and for my wife, too.

You have nothing to fear! :-)

  #21  
Old September 9th 13, 06:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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has written on 9/9/2013 1:07 PM:
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:11:57 -0400, Juan Wei
wrote:

has written on 9/9/2013 11:41 AM:

Being "up with the times" is not high on my list --- I don't even
own anything with a touch screen and, so fa,r haven't found any reason
to do so. What is the expression ? Ah, --- "he's old and set in his
ways". :-)


I have a friend who is 79. He is completely non-technical and HATES
change. Recently, I convinced him to dump his XP machine that he
complained was running very slowly and had him buy an inexpensive Win 8
all-in-one. I fixed it up with StartIsBack ($3.00) and a couple of extra
tricks, so that it boots to the log in screen and then goes directly to
the desktop. He has had ZERO trouble using it. In fact, he has no idea
that it's running Win 8.


Well first one would have to know that all these add-ons existed,
then how to use them etc.


StartIsBack is the only add-on. The rest are configurations.

I installed classic Shell and downloaded
and installed some software and moved some stuff from older
computers. But just trivial stuff --- find directories, scan
directories, store in specific directories, make directories , etc
etc are all mysteries.


What did you use in XP to do those things? Windows Explorer? Guess what
-- Win 8 has it, too.

Once you install StartIsBack and do the configurations, THERE'S NOTHING
ELSE TO LEARN!!! You will have a Win-7-working machine.
  #22  
Old September 9th 13, 08:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:49:16 -0400, Juan Wei
wrote:

has written on 9/9/2013 1:07 PM:
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:11:57 -0400, Juan Wei
wrote:

has written on 9/9/2013 11:41 AM:

Being "up with the times" is not high on my list --- I don't even
own anything with a touch screen and, so fa,r haven't found any reason
to do so. What is the expression ? Ah, --- "he's old and set in his
ways". :-)


I have a friend who is 79. He is completely non-technical and HATES
change. Recently, I convinced him to dump his XP machine that he
complained was running very slowly and had him buy an inexpensive Win 8
all-in-one. I fixed it up with StartIsBack ($3.00) and a couple of extra
tricks, so that it boots to the log in screen and then goes directly to
the desktop. He has had ZERO trouble using it. In fact, he has no idea
that it's running Win 8.


Well first one would have to know that all these add-ons existed,
then how to use them etc.


StartIsBack is the only add-on. The rest are configurations.

I installed classic Shell and downloaded
and installed some software and moved some stuff from older
computers. But just trivial stuff --- find directories, scan
directories, store in specific directories, make directories , etc
etc are all mysteries.


What did you use in XP to do those things? Windows Explorer? Guess what
-- Win 8 has it, too.

Once you install StartIsBack and do the configurations, THERE'S NOTHING
ELSE TO LEARN!!! You will have a Win-7-working machine.


I installed Classic Shell. Do I just get Startback and install it
also??
  #23  
Old September 9th 13, 08:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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I installed Classic Shell. Do I just get Startback and
install it also??



Pointless, you already have Classic Shell. Both are for the same purpose,
you only need one.

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Old September 9th 13, 09:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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Well, I did install Classic Shell. And "nearly"
subjective. I didn't find it so --- but then I haven't
learned Win 7 well yet either --- just bought a new
laptop with 7 installed so I'll start



Yeah, "nearly" is subjective. It also depends upon individual tastes. Tell
me, just WTF do you want???

Here are a couple of screen shots of my Win 8 desktop. That's where I land
when the machine boots. Normally, there is nothing on it...no "My
Computer"...no "Recycle Bin". I don't want orneed those things. In the
screen shots, there are 3-4 things that are there temporarily until I take
care of them. That's what I use both my actual and my computer desktops
for - temporary things.

In the screen shots, the task bar is also visible. I keep it at the left
side and it is normally hidden until such time as I want it; when I do, I
move the cursor to the left edge and the taskbar pops out.

One screen shot shows the "All Programs" menu, the other shows "Settings"
Pretty much the same as they woud be in Win7, WinXP, Win98 or Win95. They
do have some special icons I made but that is a matter of taste; they could
have standard icons if I wished.

The existence of the menus is thanks to Classic Shell as is the "start"
button which is the graphic at the top of the taskbar. The appearance of
the start menu and what is on it, how it behaves, etc. is configurable via
Classic Shell's menu; one way to access that menu is to right click the
start button.

Take a look at the screen shots and tell me what is do damned hard about
Win8 with Classic Shell. IOW, are you stubborn or just totally computer
illiterate?

http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/allprograms.gif

http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/settings.gif

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  #26  
Old September 10th 13, 12:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
Juan Wei
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has written on 9/9/2013 3:27 PM:
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:49:16 -0400, Juan Wei
wrote:

has written on 9/9/2013 1:07 PM:
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:11:57 -0400, Juan Wei
wrote:

has written on 9/9/2013 11:41 AM:

Being "up with the times" is not high on my list --- I don't even
own anything with a touch screen and, so fa,r haven't found any reason
to do so. What is the expression ? Ah, --- "he's old and set in his
ways". :-)


I have a friend who is 79. He is completely non-technical and HATES
change. Recently, I convinced him to dump his XP machine that he
complained was running very slowly and had him buy an inexpensive Win 8
all-in-one. I fixed it up with StartIsBack ($3.00) and a couple of extra
tricks, so that it boots to the log in screen and then goes directly to
the desktop. He has had ZERO trouble using it. In fact, he has no idea
that it's running Win 8.


Well first one would have to know that all these add-ons existed,
then how to use them etc.


StartIsBack is the only add-on. The rest are configurations.

I installed classic Shell and downloaded
and installed some software and moved some stuff from older
computers. But just trivial stuff --- find directories, scan
directories, store in specific directories, make directories , etc
etc are all mysteries.


What did you use in XP to do those things? Windows Explorer? Guess what
-- Win 8 has it, too.

Once you install StartIsBack and do the configurations, THERE'S NOTHING
ELSE TO LEARN!!! You will have a Win-7-working machine.


I installed Classic Shell. Do I just get Startback and install it
also??


No. Uninstall Classic Shell. And it's start is back == startisback ==
NOT start back.
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Old September 10th 13, 01:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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My two cents,

Did you build your own white box or bought it from an OEM like Dell?

OEM's like Dell still offer Windows 7 systems, so it's much easier if I
were you to buy one from them and all drivers are for Windows 7. If you
bought one from an OEM, perhaps, you could return it and ask for a Win 7
system.

I am also a computer hobbyist, most of time, so I can't help to play
some "latest and greatest" hardware and software, but when it comes to
doing things, an OS is just a platform to support applications and
hardware that are meant for productivity and personal pleasure, so I
don't see any reason to relearn a new interface when there is no
tangible benefits.

Windows 7 will last for many years to come, and for myself, if Win 9 is
similar to Win 8, I will move to another platform which is long overdue.


On 9/8/2013 22:03, wrote:
I'm seriously considering dumping Win 8 from a new computer
and installing either XP Pro or Win 7 very possibly the former--
and keep it on 'til the updates stop nest year and then, if I live
that long, upgrading to Win 7.
Yeah ---laugh all you want -- but, to my actual question:
My understand is that I install the OS then install the drivers
(right?). So, that's fine --if I have the drivers on a disk.
But, suppose I download the drivers ahead of installing the OS --
how then do I get them on the machine?


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Old September 10th 13, 01:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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Pretty good. Not many people here have been doing computers since before
1958.


Some were not born yet. Ooops.

On 9/10/2013 07:34, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 09:22:28 -0500, wrote:

I've been doing computers since the very begining --
my first was before floppy disks were invented and before
the word "software" was coined.


Pretty good. Not many people here have been doing computers since before
1958.


 




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