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Re; Embracing the PC
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By Paul Thurrott

I know the year isn't quite over yet, but if there's one thing I'm really
happy about—excited for, really—in 2014, it's the resurgence of the PC.
After three years of coping with the notion that mobile devices like smart
phones and tablets could somehow replace PCs, we now have a more nuanced
view. And the funny thing is, it took the rise of these mobile devices to
drive home how relevant PCs really are.

When it introduced the Surface Pro 3 back in June, Microsoft's Panos Panay
spoke to this changing understanding of the market. Everyone thought the
iPad was going to kill the PC, Panay said at the time. But in the quarter
that had just ended, the iPad—once Apple's fastest-growing product of all
time—had suffered its first-ever year-over-year sales shortfall. Then it
happened again in the next quarter too. And according to IDC, Apple will
sell fewer iPads in all of 2014 than it did in the previous year, and
overall tablet sales are slowing to a crawl in 2014 after a feverish 50+
growth rate the year before.

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On 12/02/2014 02:15 PM, McGregor wrote:
Re; Embracing the PC
News_WIN_AUT_PaulThurrott_70x91
By Paul Thurrott

I know the year isn't quite over yet, but if there's one thing I'm really
happy about—excited for, really—in 2014, it's the resurgence of the PC.
After three years of coping with the notion that mobile devices like smart
phones and tablets could somehow replace PCs, we now have a more nuanced
view. And the funny thing is, it took the rise of these mobile devices to
drive home how relevant PCs really are.




snip


I never bothered to get a smart-phone (or even a dumb phone).


I absolutely need a real keyboard, a real mouse and a real monitor.



When I'm at home I use my computer a lot and when I go out for coffee or
dinner, the last thing I need to do is be on-line, check my email or
take phone calls.

On 12/2/2014 2:26 PM, philo wrote:
On 12/02/2014 02:15 PM, McGregor wrote:
Re; Embracing the PC
News_WIN_AUT_PaulThurrott_70x91
By Paul Thurrott

I know the year isn't quite over yet, but if there's one thing I'm really
happy about—excited for, really—in 2014, it's the resurgence of the PC.
After three years of coping with the notion that mobile devices like
smart
phones and tablets could somehow replace PCs, we now have a more nuanced
view. And the funny thing is, it took the rise of these mobile devices to
drive home how relevant PCs really are.




snip


I never bothered to get a smart-phone (or even a dumb phone).


I absolutely need a real keyboard, a real mouse and a real monitor.



When I'm at home I use my computer a lot and when I go out for coffee or
dinner, the last thing I need to do is be on-line, check my email or
take phone calls.




+++++, Right on, A man after my own heart.

Regards, Rene

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On 12/02/2014 02:15 PM, McGregor wrote:
Re; Embracing the PC
News_WIN_AUT_PaulThurrott_70x91
By Paul Thurrott

I know the year isn't quite over yet, but if there's one thing I'm really
happy about—excited for, really—in 2014, it's the resurgence of the PC.
After three years of coping with the notion that mobile devices like
smart
phones and tablets could somehow replace PCs, we now have a more nuanced
view. And the funny thing is, it took the rise of these mobile devices to
drive home how relevant PCs really are.




snip


I never bothered to get a smart-phone (or even a dumb phone).


I absolutely need a real keyboard, a real mouse and a real monitor.



When I'm at home I use my computer a lot and when I go out for coffee or
dinner, the last thing I need to do is be on-line, check my email or take
phone calls.

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On 12/02/2014 02:15 PM, McGregor wrote:
Re; Embracing the PC
News_WIN_AUT_PaulThurrott_70x91
By Paul Thurrott

I know the year isn't quite over yet, but if there's one thing I'm
really
happy about—excited for, really—in 2014, it's the resurgence of the PC.
After three years of coping with the notion that mobile devices like
smart
phones and tablets could somehow replace PCs, we now have a more nuanced
view. And the funny thing is, it took the rise of these mobile devices
to
drive home how relevant PCs really are.




snip


I never bothered to get a smart-phone (or even a dumb phone).


I absolutely need a real keyboard, a real mouse and a real monitor.



When I'm at home I use my computer a lot and when I go out for coffee or
dinner, the last thing I need to do is be on-line, check my email or take
phone calls.

Smartphones have their place: for reading/sending emails, text messages or
Skype messages when you are away from home - always assuming that you can
get a decent mobile phone signal or can find a free wifi connection that you
trust. The main thing I use my smartphone for (apart from as a phone,
obviously) is as a satnav (using the free, offline Here software) and for
plotting where I am and where I've been on a proper Ordnance Survey map (I
don't regard Google maps as maps, more as crude diagrams).

But for any serious use of a computer, I need a keyboard, a mouse and a
large screen. And I need Windows so I can do proper selection and
cutting/pasting that is either tedious or impossible in Android.

I prefer a desktop PC to a laptop, but even a laptop is good enough (at a
pinch) for "serious" computer work, whereas a smart phone will always be a
toy for emergency use.

NY wrote on 12/2/2014 4:22 PM:

Smartphones have their place: for reading/sending emails, text messages or
Skype messages when you are away from home - always assuming that you can
get a decent mobile phone signal or can find a free wifi connection that you
trust. The main thing I use my smartphone for (apart from as a phone,
obviously) is as a satnav (using the free, offline Here software) and for
plotting where I am and where I've been on a proper Ordnance Survey map (I
don't regard Google maps as maps, more as crude diagrams).

When you get old, you'll be happy to have a potable device that has your
calendar, to-do lists, medical info etc at the ready.

Remember the PDA? One lives inside a smartphone. :-)

On 12/02/2014 04:03 PM, Alek Trishan wrote:
NY wrote on 12/2/2014 4:22 PM:

Smartphones have their place: for reading/sending emails, text messages or
Skype messages when you are away from home - always assuming that you can
get a decent mobile phone signal or can find a free wifi connection that you
trust. The main thing I use my smartphone for (apart from as a phone,
obviously) is as a satnav (using the free, offline Here software) and for
plotting where I am and where I've been on a proper Ordnance Survey map (I
don't regard Google maps as maps, more as crude diagrams).

When you get old, you'll be happy to have a potable device that has your
calendar, to-do lists, medical info etc at the ready.

Remember the PDA? One lives inside a smartphone. :-)




I'm 65 and retired a few years ago.

Though I did have to get my knees replaced, thus far my medical record
is extremely boring. No conditions, no medications not much of anything.

Still have my to-do list on a piece of paper
and though I've had a computer for 14 years,
my address book is a bunch of scraps of paper thrown into a box.


I /was/ going to get organized when I retired but realize now that will
never happen.

My /one/ accomplishment though:


I finally replaced that cracked window in the pantry this last summer.
It was cracked when I moved in here in 1979!

On 2014-12-02, Alek Trishan wrote:
When you get old, you'll be happy to have a potable device that has your
calendar, to-do lists, medical info etc at the ready.
Remember the PDA? One lives inside a smartphone. :-)

I'm alreay old, and have no use for smartphones. As far as I am concerned
a phone is a device for making calls, period.

I know several people who jumped on the tablet bandwagon, only to
abandon them for traditional laptops when they tried to get any
kind of real work done.

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On 12/02/2014 03:22 PM, NY wrote:


snip

Smartphones have their place: for reading/sending emails, text messages
or Skype messages when you are away from home - always assuming that you
can get a decent mobile phone signal or can find a free wifi connection
that you trust. The main thing I use my smartphone for (apart from as a
phone, obviously) is as a satnav (using the free, offline Here software)
and for plotting where I am and where I've been on a proper Ordnance
Survey map (I don't regard Google maps as maps, more as crude diagrams).

But for any serious use of a computer, I need a keyboard, a mouse and a
large screen. And I need Windows so I can do proper selection and
cutting/pasting that is either tedious or impossible in Android.

I prefer a desktop PC to a laptop, but even a laptop is good enough (at
a pinch) for "serious" computer work, whereas a smart phone will always
be a toy for emergency use.



I do have a laptop which rarely gets used

but when I do use it 98% of the time I plug in a mouse

On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 16:59:48 -0600, philo* wrote:

[snip]

I do have a laptop which rarely gets used

but when I do use it 98% of the time I plug in a mouse

Likewise except that I also plug in a keyboard.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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On 12/02/2014 02:15 PM, McGregor wrote:
Re; Embracing the PC
News_WIN_AUT_PaulThurrott_70x91
By Paul Thurrott

I know the year isn't quite over yet, but if there's one thing I'm really
happy about?excited for, really?in 2014, it's the resurgence of the PC.
After three years of coping with the notion that mobile devices like smart
phones and tablets could somehow replace PCs, we now have a more nuanced
view. And the funny thing is, it took the rise of these mobile devices to
drive home how relevant PCs really are.




snip


I never bothered to get a smart-phone (or even a dumb phone).


I absolutely need a real keyboard, a real mouse and a real monitor.



When I'm at home I use my computer a lot and when I go out for coffee or
dinner, the last thing I need to do is be on-line, check my email or
take phone calls.

That's more or less my attitude also. We do own a basic mobile phone for
use in a car emergency on the road because we live rural but no tablets
etc. I don't even wear a watch I hate devices dictating my life that
much

That said I do own a full sized laptop I use when visiting friends etc.
but it's as much for ripping cds or videos when there or giving them
stuff I have is about all it's ever used for (and laptop was given to
me). Four desktops in house all used though

I know little about phones.

However the Ipad is excellent, a toy of course, but a good one. Especially
good for watching the world chess championship and other livestream stuff,
while doing something. Of course it is not much good without a PC for all
sorts of reasons. Almost the first thing you have to do is download Itunes
to the PC for example. Actually I think of the Ipad as a peripheral.

On 12/02/2014 12:15 PM, McGregor wrote:
Re; Embracing the PC
News_WIN_AUT_PaulThurrott_70x91
By Paul Thurrott

I know the year isn't quite over yet, but if there's one thing I'm really
happy about—excited for, really—in 2014, it's the resurgence of the PC.
After three years of coping with the notion that mobile devices like smart
phones and tablets could somehow replace PCs, we now have a more nuanced
view. And the funny thing is, it took the rise of these mobile devices to
drive home how relevant PCs really are.

When it introduced the Surface Pro 3 back in June, Microsoft's Panos Panay
spoke to this changing understanding of the market. Everyone thought the
iPad was going to kill the PC, Panay said at the time. But in the quarter
that had just ended, the iPad—once Apple's fastest-growing product of all
time—had suffered its first-ever year-over-year sales shortfall. Then it
happened again in the next quarter too. And according to IDC, Apple will
sell fewer iPads in all of 2014 than it did in the previous year, and
overall tablet sales are slowing to a crawl in 2014 after a feverish 50+
growth rate the year before.

More...

http://kinoplex.gazeta.pl/kinoplex/2...zawskie_021214



I have heard similar stories. Not their words but "the death
of the toy computers". Tablets, etc. are absolutely marvelous
for "receiving" information, but are an absolute NIGHTMARE
for creating information. Give me a real keyboard, laser mouse,
and monitor.

I think this progression you mentions would have gone faster
if M$ had not blew it so very badly with Windows Frankenstein
(w8) -- trying to meld a tablet with a laptop.

This got better when computer vendors revolted and made sure
they offered Windows 7 computers.

The read only crowd needs to be kept in a different category
than the information creation crowd. In a way, the iPad did
me a favor. Now only serious computer users call me and I
don't have to put up with "I only want to surf the Internet
and read my eMail". If that is all you want to do, don't buy
a full function business grade computer and then bitch about
its upkeep. (One wonders if they bitch every time they
have to put gas in their car!)

On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 18:33:45 -0800, Todd wrote:

The read only crowd needs to be kept in a different category
than the information creation crowd. In a way, the iPad did
me a favor. Now only serious computer users call me and I
don't have to put up with "I only want to surf the Internet
and read my eMail". If that is all you want to do, don't buy
a full function business grade computer and then bitch about
its upkeep. (One wonders if they bitch every time they
have to put gas in their car!)

With gas heading for less than $2.00 a gallon, it's getting harder to
complain.

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Re; Embracing the PC
News_WIN_AUT_PaulThurrott_70x91
By Paul Thurrott

I know the year isn't quite over yet, but if there's one thing I'm really
happy about—excited for, really—in 2014, it's the resurgence of the PC.
After three years of coping with the notion that mobile devices like smart
phones and tablets could somehow replace PCs, we now have a more nuanced
view. And the funny thing is, it took the rise of these mobile devices to
drive home how relevant PCs really are.


It's never been away, nor planning to do it away. Most important reason is
having a working system as backup. (notebook already died twice!)



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