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  #1  
Old January 27th 10, 07:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Dale
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Posts: 112
Default Replace Video Card

I would appreciate some help on replacing a video card. I have no clue as to
what to purchase. It's is overwhelming.

Below I have listed the infomation on the current card. I do not need a high
power (gaming) card. Just something simple.

Thank you for ANY information.

Side One
1997 STB Systems Rev B [Stamped on Board]
Product of Mexico
--
Way Vel 128 AGP NO/TV
1.6
240-0481-002
01/30/98
--
9802 A USA [Stamped on Chips]
MT41LC256K32D4
LC -10

Side Two
STB Systems 210-0275-00X
1X0-0554-305
18 05/1998
LU2-T1
Bar Code: 6000681
--
Bar Code: 0009117330 02/04/98
--
002V0 [Stamped on Board]
94V-0
E92481
9750
--


Video Adapter

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 3
Internet Explorer 7.0.5730.13

Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
Product HP Vectra
Version VE8

BIOS:
BIOS Type AMI (07/15/95)
Manufacturer FIRST INTERNATIONAL
COMPUTER
Product 440BX
Version VER:1.x
Chassis type 2X

Vendor American
Megatrends, Inc.
Version HT.01.03
Release Date 07/06/98
Size 256 KB
Capabilities Flash BIOS,
Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD
Supported Standards DMI, APM, ESCD, PnP
Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI

Motherboard:
Motherboard Name HP Vectra VE8
Motherboard Chipset Intel 82440BX/ZX
Northbridge Intel i440BX/ZX rev. B1
Southbridge Intel 82371EB/MB (PIIX4E/M) rev. 02
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Revision 1.0
AGP Transfer Rate 1x
AGP SBA not supported, not enabled

Processor:
Manufacturer Intel
Version Pentium II
External Clock/ Bus Clock/FSB speed 66 MHz
Maximum Clock 450 MHz
Current Clock 333 MHz
Multiplier 5.0x
Type Central Processor
Voltage 2.9 V
Status Enabled
Upgrade Slot 1
Socket Designation Slot 1
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Not hyper-threaded Board: FIRST INTERNATIONAL COMPUTER 440BX VER:1.x
Version x86 Family 6 Model 5 Stepping 1

CPU Type Intel Pentium II,
333 MHz (5 x 67)
CPU Alias Deschutes, A80523
CPU Stepping dA1
L1 Code Cache 16 KB
L1 Data Cache 16 KB
L2 Cache 512 KB (Built-In,
Half-Speed)
CPU Physical Info:
Package Type 242 Contact SEC
Cartridge
Package Size 12.82 cm x 6.28 cm x
1.64 cm
Transistors 7.5 million
Process Technology 5M, 0.25 um, CMOS
Die Size 131 / 118 mm2
Core Voltage 2.0 V
I/O Voltage 3.3 V
Typical Power 11 - 24 W (depending
on clock speed)
Maximum Power 16.8 - 36.4 W (depending
on clock speed)

Display:
Video Manufacturer STB
Video Adapter Velocity 128 (4 MB)
Hardware Driver nv3.dll
Driver nv3.sys
Date 8/17/2001
Version 5.1.3528.0343
DirectDraw Driver Description Primary Display Driver
3D Accelerator nVIDIA RIVA128
Monitor 19" VSC111E:
Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB]
Mode 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
(Q87070323615)
System Slot:
Slot Designation PCI Slot5
Type PCI
Usage Empty
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Long

AGP Slot:
AGP Version 1.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
Current AGP Speed 1x
Fast-Write Not Supported
Side Band Addressing Supported, Disabled
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Long

Problem: Current AGP speed is lower than maximum supported.
This may cause performance penalty.

Controllers: Display
Intel(R) 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] Velocity 128 [Display adapter]

Monitor: ViewSonic VA903 SERIES [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n Q87070323615,
January 2007)

Display adapter 0
Display name \\.\DISPLAY1
Name Velocity 128
Memory size 4 MB
PCI device bus 1 (0x1), device 0 (0x0), function 0 (0x0)
Vendor ID 0x12D2 (0x10B4)
Model ID 0x18 (0x1B1E)
Performance Level 0

C: (NTFS) 200.04 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
171.54 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

System Memory 640 MB (SDRAM)

Network Adapter Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
(192.168.0.4)

Bus Adapters Multimedia
Intel(R) 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
Game port for Yamaha
YAMAHA OPL3-SAx WDM Driver

PCI capability
Caps class AGP
Caps offset 0xA0
Caps offset 0x44
Caps version 1.0
Caps status enabled
Transfer rate 1x (max 2x)
Transfer rate 1x (max 1x)
Queue lenght 1 (max 32)
Queue lenght 1 (max 5)

PCI Devices:
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 1 Intel 82371AB/EB PIIX4 -
IDE Controller
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 2 Intel 82371AB/EB PIIX4 -
USB Host Controller
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 0 Intel 82371EB PCI ISA IDE
Xcelerator 4 - PIIX4E [A-0]
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 3 Intel 82371EB PIIX4E -
Power Management
Controller [A-0]
Bus 0, Device 1, Function 0 Intel 82443BX/ZX AGP
Controller [B-1]
Bus 0, Device 0, Function 0 Intel 82443BX/ZX Host
Bridge/Controller [B-1]
Bus 0, Device 11, Function 0 Realtek RTL8139 Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Bus 1, Device 0, Function 0 STB Velocity 128 Video
Adapter

Description VGA Controller
Location bus 1 (0x01), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x12D2
Model ID 0x0018
Revision ID 0x10
PI 0x00
SubClass 0x00
BaseClass 0x03
Cache Line 0x00
Latency 0xF8
Header 0x00
PCI header
Address 0 (memory) 0xEE000000
Address 1 (memory) 0xE4000000
Subvendor ID 0x10B4
Subsystem ID 0x1B1E
Int. Line 0x09
Int. Pin 0x01


--
dale
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  #2  
Old January 27th 10, 09:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Peter Foldes
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Posts: 2,444
Default Replace Video Card

Dale

I do not want to sound mean but you will be better off to replace your P2 computer.
Changing to a higher end video card on this computer is a very bad idea and a waste
of money on top of that

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Dale" wrote in message
...
I would appreciate some help on replacing a video card. I have no clue as to
what to purchase. It's is overwhelming.

Below I have listed the infomation on the current card. I do not need a high
power (gaming) card. Just something simple.

Thank you for ANY information.

Side One
1997 STB Systems Rev B [Stamped on Board]
Product of Mexico
--
Way Vel 128 AGP NO/TV
1.6
240-0481-002
01/30/98
--
9802 A USA [Stamped on Chips]
MT41LC256K32D4
LC -10

Side Two
STB Systems 210-0275-00X
1X0-0554-305
18 05/1998
LU2-T1
Bar Code: 6000681
--
Bar Code: 0009117330 02/04/98
--
002V0 [Stamped on Board]
94V-0
E92481
9750
--


Video Adapter

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 3
Internet Explorer 7.0.5730.13

Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
Product HP Vectra
Version VE8

BIOS:
BIOS Type AMI (07/15/95)
Manufacturer FIRST INTERNATIONAL
COMPUTER
Product 440BX
Version VER:1.x
Chassis type 2X

Vendor American
Megatrends, Inc.
Version HT.01.03
Release Date 07/06/98
Size 256 KB
Capabilities Flash BIOS,
Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD
Supported Standards DMI, APM, ESCD, PnP
Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI

Motherboard:
Motherboard Name HP Vectra VE8
Motherboard Chipset Intel 82440BX/ZX
Northbridge Intel i440BX/ZX rev. B1
Southbridge Intel 82371EB/MB (PIIX4E/M) rev. 02
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Revision 1.0
AGP Transfer Rate 1x
AGP SBA not supported, not enabled

Processor:
Manufacturer Intel
Version Pentium II
External Clock/ Bus Clock/FSB speed 66 MHz
Maximum Clock 450 MHz
Current Clock 333 MHz
Multiplier 5.0x
Type Central Processor
Voltage 2.9 V
Status Enabled
Upgrade Slot 1
Socket Designation Slot 1
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Not hyper-threaded Board: FIRST INTERNATIONAL COMPUTER 440BX VER:1.x
Version x86 Family 6 Model 5 Stepping 1

CPU Type Intel Pentium II,
333 MHz (5 x 67)
CPU Alias Deschutes, A80523
CPU Stepping dA1
L1 Code Cache 16 KB
L1 Data Cache 16 KB
L2 Cache 512 KB (Built-In,
Half-Speed)
CPU Physical Info:
Package Type 242 Contact SEC
Cartridge
Package Size 12.82 cm x 6.28 cm x
1.64 cm
Transistors 7.5 million
Process Technology 5M, 0.25 um, CMOS
Die Size 131 / 118 mm2
Core Voltage 2.0 V
I/O Voltage 3.3 V
Typical Power 11 - 24 W (depending
on clock speed)
Maximum Power 16.8 - 36.4 W (depending
on clock speed)

Display:
Video Manufacturer STB
Video Adapter Velocity 128 (4 MB)
Hardware Driver nv3.dll
Driver nv3.sys
Date 8/17/2001
Version 5.1.3528.0343
DirectDraw Driver Description Primary Display Driver
3D Accelerator nVIDIA RIVA128
Monitor 19" VSC111E:
Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB]
Mode 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
(Q87070323615)
System Slot:
Slot Designation PCI Slot5
Type PCI
Usage Empty
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Long

AGP Slot:
AGP Version 1.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
Current AGP Speed 1x
Fast-Write Not Supported
Side Band Addressing Supported, Disabled
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Long

Problem: Current AGP speed is lower than maximum supported.
This may cause performance penalty.

Controllers: Display
Intel(R) 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] Velocity 128 [Display adapter]

Monitor: ViewSonic VA903 SERIES [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n Q87070323615,
January 2007)

Display adapter 0
Display name \\.\DISPLAY1
Name Velocity 128
Memory size 4 MB
PCI device bus 1 (0x1), device 0 (0x0), function 0 (0x0)
Vendor ID 0x12D2 (0x10B4)
Model ID 0x18 (0x1B1E)
Performance Level 0

C: (NTFS) 200.04 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
171.54 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

System Memory 640 MB (SDRAM)

Network Adapter Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
(192.168.0.4)

Bus Adapters Multimedia
Intel(R) 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
Game port for Yamaha
YAMAHA OPL3-SAx WDM Driver

PCI capability
Caps class AGP
Caps offset 0xA0
Caps offset 0x44
Caps version 1.0
Caps status enabled
Transfer rate 1x (max 2x)
Transfer rate 1x (max 1x)
Queue lenght 1 (max 32)
Queue lenght 1 (max 5)

PCI Devices:
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 1 Intel 82371AB/EB PIIX4 -
IDE Controller
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 2 Intel 82371AB/EB PIIX4 -
USB Host Controller
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 0 Intel 82371EB PCI ISA IDE
Xcelerator 4 - PIIX4E [A-0]
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 3 Intel 82371EB PIIX4E -
Power Management
Controller [A-0]
Bus 0, Device 1, Function 0 Intel 82443BX/ZX AGP
Controller [B-1]
Bus 0, Device 0, Function 0 Intel 82443BX/ZX Host
Bridge/Controller [B-1]
Bus 0, Device 11, Function 0 Realtek RTL8139 Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Bus 1, Device 0, Function 0 STB Velocity 128 Video
Adapter

Description VGA Controller
Location bus 1 (0x01), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x12D2
Model ID 0x0018
Revision ID 0x10
PI 0x00
SubClass 0x00
BaseClass 0x03
Cache Line 0x00
Latency 0xF8
Header 0x00
PCI header
Address 0 (memory) 0xEE000000
Address 1 (memory) 0xE4000000
Subvendor ID 0x10B4
Subsystem ID 0x1B1E
Int. Line 0x09
Int. Pin 0x01


--
dale


  #3  
Old January 27th 10, 09:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Peter Foldes
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,444
Default Replace Video Card

Dale

I do not want to sound mean but you will be better off to replace your P2 computer.
Changing to a higher end video card on this computer is a very bad idea and a waste
of money on top of that

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Dale" wrote in message
...
I would appreciate some help on replacing a video card. I have no clue as to
what to purchase. It's is overwhelming.

Below I have listed the infomation on the current card. I do not need a high
power (gaming) card. Just something simple.

Thank you for ANY information.

Side One
1997 STB Systems Rev B [Stamped on Board]
Product of Mexico
--
Way Vel 128 AGP NO/TV
1.6
240-0481-002
01/30/98
--
9802 A USA [Stamped on Chips]
MT41LC256K32D4
LC -10

Side Two
STB Systems 210-0275-00X
1X0-0554-305
18 05/1998
LU2-T1
Bar Code: 6000681
--
Bar Code: 0009117330 02/04/98
--
002V0 [Stamped on Board]
94V-0
E92481
9750
--


Video Adapter

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 3
Internet Explorer 7.0.5730.13

Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
Product HP Vectra
Version VE8

BIOS:
BIOS Type AMI (07/15/95)
Manufacturer FIRST INTERNATIONAL
COMPUTER
Product 440BX
Version VER:1.x
Chassis type 2X

Vendor American
Megatrends, Inc.
Version HT.01.03
Release Date 07/06/98
Size 256 KB
Capabilities Flash BIOS,
Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD
Supported Standards DMI, APM, ESCD, PnP
Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI

Motherboard:
Motherboard Name HP Vectra VE8
Motherboard Chipset Intel 82440BX/ZX
Northbridge Intel i440BX/ZX rev. B1
Southbridge Intel 82371EB/MB (PIIX4E/M) rev. 02
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Revision 1.0
AGP Transfer Rate 1x
AGP SBA not supported, not enabled

Processor:
Manufacturer Intel
Version Pentium II
External Clock/ Bus Clock/FSB speed 66 MHz
Maximum Clock 450 MHz
Current Clock 333 MHz
Multiplier 5.0x
Type Central Processor
Voltage 2.9 V
Status Enabled
Upgrade Slot 1
Socket Designation Slot 1
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Not hyper-threaded Board: FIRST INTERNATIONAL COMPUTER 440BX VER:1.x
Version x86 Family 6 Model 5 Stepping 1

CPU Type Intel Pentium II,
333 MHz (5 x 67)
CPU Alias Deschutes, A80523
CPU Stepping dA1
L1 Code Cache 16 KB
L1 Data Cache 16 KB
L2 Cache 512 KB (Built-In,
Half-Speed)
CPU Physical Info:
Package Type 242 Contact SEC
Cartridge
Package Size 12.82 cm x 6.28 cm x
1.64 cm
Transistors 7.5 million
Process Technology 5M, 0.25 um, CMOS
Die Size 131 / 118 mm2
Core Voltage 2.0 V
I/O Voltage 3.3 V
Typical Power 11 - 24 W (depending
on clock speed)
Maximum Power 16.8 - 36.4 W (depending
on clock speed)

Display:
Video Manufacturer STB
Video Adapter Velocity 128 (4 MB)
Hardware Driver nv3.dll
Driver nv3.sys
Date 8/17/2001
Version 5.1.3528.0343
DirectDraw Driver Description Primary Display Driver
3D Accelerator nVIDIA RIVA128
Monitor 19" VSC111E:
Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB]
Mode 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
(Q87070323615)
System Slot:
Slot Designation PCI Slot5
Type PCI
Usage Empty
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Long

AGP Slot:
AGP Version 1.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
Current AGP Speed 1x
Fast-Write Not Supported
Side Band Addressing Supported, Disabled
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Long

Problem: Current AGP speed is lower than maximum supported.
This may cause performance penalty.

Controllers: Display
Intel(R) 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] Velocity 128 [Display adapter]

Monitor: ViewSonic VA903 SERIES [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n Q87070323615,
January 2007)

Display adapter 0
Display name \\.\DISPLAY1
Name Velocity 128
Memory size 4 MB
PCI device bus 1 (0x1), device 0 (0x0), function 0 (0x0)
Vendor ID 0x12D2 (0x10B4)
Model ID 0x18 (0x1B1E)
Performance Level 0

C: (NTFS) 200.04 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
171.54 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

System Memory 640 MB (SDRAM)

Network Adapter Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
(192.168.0.4)

Bus Adapters Multimedia
Intel(R) 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
Game port for Yamaha
YAMAHA OPL3-SAx WDM Driver

PCI capability
Caps class AGP
Caps offset 0xA0
Caps offset 0x44
Caps version 1.0
Caps status enabled
Transfer rate 1x (max 2x)
Transfer rate 1x (max 1x)
Queue lenght 1 (max 32)
Queue lenght 1 (max 5)

PCI Devices:
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 1 Intel 82371AB/EB PIIX4 -
IDE Controller
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 2 Intel 82371AB/EB PIIX4 -
USB Host Controller
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 0 Intel 82371EB PCI ISA IDE
Xcelerator 4 - PIIX4E [A-0]
Bus 0, Device 7, Function 3 Intel 82371EB PIIX4E -
Power Management
Controller [A-0]
Bus 0, Device 1, Function 0 Intel 82443BX/ZX AGP
Controller [B-1]
Bus 0, Device 0, Function 0 Intel 82443BX/ZX Host
Bridge/Controller [B-1]
Bus 0, Device 11, Function 0 Realtek RTL8139 Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Bus 1, Device 0, Function 0 STB Velocity 128 Video
Adapter

Description VGA Controller
Location bus 1 (0x01), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x12D2
Model ID 0x0018
Revision ID 0x10
PI 0x00
SubClass 0x00
BaseClass 0x03
Cache Line 0x00
Latency 0xF8
Header 0x00
PCI header
Address 0 (memory) 0xEE000000
Address 1 (memory) 0xE4000000
Subvendor ID 0x10B4
Subsystem ID 0x1B1E
Int. Line 0x09
Int. Pin 0x01


--
dale


  #4  
Old January 27th 10, 10:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,447
Default Replace Video Card

Dale wrote:
I would appreciate some help on replacing a video card. I have no clue as to
what to purchase. It's is overwhelming.

Below I have listed the infomation on the current card. I do not need a high
power (gaming) card. Just something simple.

Thank you for ANY information.



What you have currently is a system with an AGP-connected video card in
it. AGP is a type of connector that is obsolete. Very few modern video
cards come in that form factor anymore, if any. Is there a reason you
want to change the video card? Has it stopped working? If it hasn't
stopped working, then you might as well just hang on to it, there's very
little left that will be able to be plugged into your system.

You're better off just getting a new processor and motherboard. Make
sure that the motherboard comes with an integrated video card in it,
then you won't have to spend additional money on a video card for it.
The best integrated systems would have either ATI or Nvidia video chips
in it, a distant last in terms of capabilities would be ones with Intel
video chips in them. However, even Intel video chips would be good
enough for basic video needs.

Yousuf Khan
  #5  
Old January 27th 10, 10:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,447
Default Replace Video Card

Dale wrote:
I would appreciate some help on replacing a video card. I have no clue as to
what to purchase. It's is overwhelming.

Below I have listed the infomation on the current card. I do not need a high
power (gaming) card. Just something simple.

Thank you for ANY information.



What you have currently is a system with an AGP-connected video card in
it. AGP is a type of connector that is obsolete. Very few modern video
cards come in that form factor anymore, if any. Is there a reason you
want to change the video card? Has it stopped working? If it hasn't
stopped working, then you might as well just hang on to it, there's very
little left that will be able to be plugged into your system.

You're better off just getting a new processor and motherboard. Make
sure that the motherboard comes with an integrated video card in it,
then you won't have to spend additional money on a video card for it.
The best integrated systems would have either ATI or Nvidia video chips
in it, a distant last in terms of capabilities would be ones with Intel
video chips in them. However, even Intel video chips would be good
enough for basic video needs.

Yousuf Khan
  #6  
Old January 28th 10, 03:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Paul
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 18,275
Default Replace Video Card

Dale wrote:
I would appreciate some help on replacing a video card. I have no clue as to
what to purchase. It's is overwhelming.

Below I have listed the infomation on the current card. I do not need a high
power (gaming) card. Just something simple.

Thank you for ANY information.

Side One
1997 STB Systems Rev B [Stamped on Board]
Product of Mexico
Way Vel 128 AGP NO/TV
Video Adapter

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Product HP Vectra
Version VE8
Product 440BX
AGP Transfer Rate 1x
Processor:
Version Pentium II
Current Clock 333 MHz


Video Adapter Velocity 128 (4 MB)
Hardware Driver nv3.dll
3D Accelerator nVIDIA RIVA128
Monitor 19" VSC111E:
Mode 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
(Q87070323615)

AGP Slot:
AGP Version 1.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
Current AGP Speed 1x

Monitor: ViewSonic VA903 SERIES [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n Q87070323615,
January 2007)


OK, what I see is a 3.3V AGP 1X/2X slot on a 440BX motherboard. The monitor
is 19", 1280x1024 native resolution, with a 15 pin VGA connector.

I'm not doing very well with search engines right now, and this is a page for VA903.

http://www1.epinions.com/specs/ViewSonic_VA903B_Monitor

What I've used on my 440BX board, is an Nvidia FX5200 AGP. I've tried
the card on a AGP 1X slot and an AGP 8X slot and it works with both.
So it is a universal card. It should be able to do 1280x1024 on VGA
without a problem (that is the resolution my monitor uses). On those
kind of older cards, you can never be sure the DVI connector is capable
of doing the full range up to 1920x1080, but that will be an issue for
another day (and another monitor purchase).

As an example, there is an FX5200 here, with both a DVI and a VGA connector
on it, and it is $32. You can't go wrong at that price, even if you
only get a year of usage from it. There is no fan on this unit. If
you ever find the card is unstable (I have an FX5200 AGP here that
is not stable unless a fan is pointed at it), you can add a fan right next
to the video card slot to improve the cooling. I needed the fan when gaming,
and since you're not using it for gaming, you might get away without
adding a fan. The thing is, the tiny fans on video cards don't last
forever, so in some ways, the ability to buy and install your
own fan is a bonus.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

In one of the reviews, you can see this comment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

"DVI port would not support the resolution of my screen (1920X1200),
the maximum it can do is 1600x1200, which looks awful on my wide screen.
So have to use RGB [VGA] plug. If I knew it in advance would not buy it."

This is a known issue with some of the older cards, in that the bandwidth
of the hardware driving the DVI connector is not up to the full 165MHz
spec. Some old cards were limited to 135MHz. To "protect" the users,
the Nvidia driver prevents selecting resolutions above a certain level.
So if someone owning this card, expects to run out and buy a new LCD
monitor with only a DVI connector on it, then the native resolution of
the new monitor should be considered, with respect to the limitations
of the FX5200. If you bought a 1680x1050 DVI monitor, expect a distorted
looking display because of not running at native resolution. If you buy
a new monitor with a VGA connector as well as DVI, then you have more
connection options. But cheap LCD monitors only have DVI now.

So the main reason I'm recommending this card, is I've tested it. I own
three different FX5200's. I have two AGP ones and a PCI one. And
so far, they've worked in all the computers I've tested them on.
That is their only "feature", as otherwise they're a pretty
crap card as far as a gamer would be concerned. But for 32 bucks,
it's an adventure.

If you want background information on video card selection, this
page is good. But I suspect you're not going to find much better
than the FX5200, as more modern cards use Rialto or HSI bridges,
and those only run 1.5V slots. The 440BX is for a 3.3V slot
motherboard, so you need to find an AGP card with a native AGP
GPU chip on it (some native chips supported both 1.5V and 3.3V).
And in terms of what is still on the market, the FX5200 AGP is
the least risk, even with its DVI issues. The 6200 might work (the ones
I see have two slots cut in them, so that means they should run
at 1.5 or 3.3V for I/O). But I'd really want proof they've been
tested in a 440BX and don't cause trouble.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html

The playtool article also mentions the AGP power issue. Some old
machines from that era, use a linear regulator for one of the
voltages the video card needs. I think I bought a TNT card
years ago, and it black screened in my 440BX machine, and I suspect
it was a power issue. And my motherboard isn't even one of the ones
known to have problems. But I didn't have a problem with the
FX5200, for whatever that is worth.

When installing a new video card, remove the old Windows driver first,
then shut down, change video cards, boot up, and install the
new driver. Nvidia will have stopped issuing new drivers
for the FX5200, but I don't expect that to be a problem.
The nice thing about the FX5200, is it covers the older
OSes well, and you can also get a Win98 driver for it.
Since you're not likely to ever run Win7 on a 333MHz processor,
I'm not too worried about no driver for Win7 :-)

HTH,
Paul
  #7  
Old January 28th 10, 03:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Paul
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 18,275
Default Replace Video Card

Dale wrote:
I would appreciate some help on replacing a video card. I have no clue as to
what to purchase. It's is overwhelming.

Below I have listed the infomation on the current card. I do not need a high
power (gaming) card. Just something simple.

Thank you for ANY information.

Side One
1997 STB Systems Rev B [Stamped on Board]
Product of Mexico
Way Vel 128 AGP NO/TV
Video Adapter

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Product HP Vectra
Version VE8
Product 440BX
AGP Transfer Rate 1x
Processor:
Version Pentium II
Current Clock 333 MHz


Video Adapter Velocity 128 (4 MB)
Hardware Driver nv3.dll
3D Accelerator nVIDIA RIVA128
Monitor 19" VSC111E:
Mode 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
(Q87070323615)

AGP Slot:
AGP Version 1.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
Current AGP Speed 1x

Monitor: ViewSonic VA903 SERIES [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n Q87070323615,
January 2007)


OK, what I see is a 3.3V AGP 1X/2X slot on a 440BX motherboard. The monitor
is 19", 1280x1024 native resolution, with a 15 pin VGA connector.

I'm not doing very well with search engines right now, and this is a page for VA903.

http://www1.epinions.com/specs/ViewSonic_VA903B_Monitor

What I've used on my 440BX board, is an Nvidia FX5200 AGP. I've tried
the card on a AGP 1X slot and an AGP 8X slot and it works with both.
So it is a universal card. It should be able to do 1280x1024 on VGA
without a problem (that is the resolution my monitor uses). On those
kind of older cards, you can never be sure the DVI connector is capable
of doing the full range up to 1920x1080, but that will be an issue for
another day (and another monitor purchase).

As an example, there is an FX5200 here, with both a DVI and a VGA connector
on it, and it is $32. You can't go wrong at that price, even if you
only get a year of usage from it. There is no fan on this unit. If
you ever find the card is unstable (I have an FX5200 AGP here that
is not stable unless a fan is pointed at it), you can add a fan right next
to the video card slot to improve the cooling. I needed the fan when gaming,
and since you're not using it for gaming, you might get away without
adding a fan. The thing is, the tiny fans on video cards don't last
forever, so in some ways, the ability to buy and install your
own fan is a bonus.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

In one of the reviews, you can see this comment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

"DVI port would not support the resolution of my screen (1920X1200),
the maximum it can do is 1600x1200, which looks awful on my wide screen.
So have to use RGB [VGA] plug. If I knew it in advance would not buy it."

This is a known issue with some of the older cards, in that the bandwidth
of the hardware driving the DVI connector is not up to the full 165MHz
spec. Some old cards were limited to 135MHz. To "protect" the users,
the Nvidia driver prevents selecting resolutions above a certain level.
So if someone owning this card, expects to run out and buy a new LCD
monitor with only a DVI connector on it, then the native resolution of
the new monitor should be considered, with respect to the limitations
of the FX5200. If you bought a 1680x1050 DVI monitor, expect a distorted
looking display because of not running at native resolution. If you buy
a new monitor with a VGA connector as well as DVI, then you have more
connection options. But cheap LCD monitors only have DVI now.

So the main reason I'm recommending this card, is I've tested it. I own
three different FX5200's. I have two AGP ones and a PCI one. And
so far, they've worked in all the computers I've tested them on.
That is their only "feature", as otherwise they're a pretty
crap card as far as a gamer would be concerned. But for 32 bucks,
it's an adventure.

If you want background information on video card selection, this
page is good. But I suspect you're not going to find much better
than the FX5200, as more modern cards use Rialto or HSI bridges,
and those only run 1.5V slots. The 440BX is for a 3.3V slot
motherboard, so you need to find an AGP card with a native AGP
GPU chip on it (some native chips supported both 1.5V and 3.3V).
And in terms of what is still on the market, the FX5200 AGP is
the least risk, even with its DVI issues. The 6200 might work (the ones
I see have two slots cut in them, so that means they should run
at 1.5 or 3.3V for I/O). But I'd really want proof they've been
tested in a 440BX and don't cause trouble.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html

The playtool article also mentions the AGP power issue. Some old
machines from that era, use a linear regulator for one of the
voltages the video card needs. I think I bought a TNT card
years ago, and it black screened in my 440BX machine, and I suspect
it was a power issue. And my motherboard isn't even one of the ones
known to have problems. But I didn't have a problem with the
FX5200, for whatever that is worth.

When installing a new video card, remove the old Windows driver first,
then shut down, change video cards, boot up, and install the
new driver. Nvidia will have stopped issuing new drivers
for the FX5200, but I don't expect that to be a problem.
The nice thing about the FX5200, is it covers the older
OSes well, and you can also get a Win98 driver for it.
Since you're not likely to ever run Win7 on a 333MHz processor,
I'm not too worried about no driver for Win7 :-)

HTH,
Paul
  #8  
Old January 29th 10, 07:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Dale
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 112
Default Replace Video Card

Thanks for the input and advice. I will check out suggestions and solutions.
The card is working, but I don't have 3D capabilites. I thought a
replacement might give me this capabilites. I don't have time a the moment to
check things out. Will post back if I find any revelations.

Thanks again.
--
dale


"Paul" wrote:

Dale wrote:
I would appreciate some help on replacing a video card. I have no clue as to
what to purchase. It's is overwhelming.

Below I have listed the infomation on the current card. I do not need a high
power (gaming) card. Just something simple.

Thank you for ANY information.

Side One
1997 STB Systems Rev B [Stamped on Board]
Product of Mexico
Way Vel 128 AGP NO/TV
Video Adapter

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Product HP Vectra
Version VE8
Product 440BX
AGP Transfer Rate 1x
Processor:
Version Pentium II
Current Clock 333 MHz


Video Adapter Velocity 128 (4 MB)
Hardware Driver nv3.dll
3D Accelerator nVIDIA RIVA128
Monitor 19" VSC111E:
Mode 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
(Q87070323615)

AGP Slot:
AGP Version 1.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
Current AGP Speed 1x

Monitor: ViewSonic VA903 SERIES [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n Q87070323615,
January 2007)


OK, what I see is a 3.3V AGP 1X/2X slot on a 440BX motherboard. The monitor
is 19", 1280x1024 native resolution, with a 15 pin VGA connector.

I'm not doing very well with search engines right now, and this is a page for VA903.

http://www1.epinions.com/specs/ViewSonic_VA903B_Monitor

What I've used on my 440BX board, is an Nvidia FX5200 AGP. I've tried
the card on a AGP 1X slot and an AGP 8X slot and it works with both.
So it is a universal card. It should be able to do 1280x1024 on VGA
without a problem (that is the resolution my monitor uses). On those
kind of older cards, you can never be sure the DVI connector is capable
of doing the full range up to 1920x1080, but that will be an issue for
another day (and another monitor purchase).

As an example, there is an FX5200 here, with both a DVI and a VGA connector
on it, and it is $32. You can't go wrong at that price, even if you
only get a year of usage from it. There is no fan on this unit. If
you ever find the card is unstable (I have an FX5200 AGP here that
is not stable unless a fan is pointed at it), you can add a fan right next
to the video card slot to improve the cooling. I needed the fan when gaming,
and since you're not using it for gaming, you might get away without
adding a fan. The thing is, the tiny fans on video cards don't last
forever, so in some ways, the ability to buy and install your
own fan is a bonus.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

In one of the reviews, you can see this comment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

"DVI port would not support the resolution of my screen (1920X1200),
the maximum it can do is 1600x1200, which looks awful on my wide screen.
So have to use RGB [VGA] plug. If I knew it in advance would not buy it."

This is a known issue with some of the older cards, in that the bandwidth
of the hardware driving the DVI connector is not up to the full 165MHz
spec. Some old cards were limited to 135MHz. To "protect" the users,
the Nvidia driver prevents selecting resolutions above a certain level.
So if someone owning this card, expects to run out and buy a new LCD
monitor with only a DVI connector on it, then the native resolution of
the new monitor should be considered, with respect to the limitations
of the FX5200. If you bought a 1680x1050 DVI monitor, expect a distorted
looking display because of not running at native resolution. If you buy
a new monitor with a VGA connector as well as DVI, then you have more
connection options. But cheap LCD monitors only have DVI now.

So the main reason I'm recommending this card, is I've tested it. I own
three different FX5200's. I have two AGP ones and a PCI one. And
so far, they've worked in all the computers I've tested them on.
That is their only "feature", as otherwise they're a pretty
crap card as far as a gamer would be concerned. But for 32 bucks,
it's an adventure.

If you want background information on video card selection, this
page is good. But I suspect you're not going to find much better
than the FX5200, as more modern cards use Rialto or HSI bridges,
and those only run 1.5V slots. The 440BX is for a 3.3V slot
motherboard, so you need to find an AGP card with a native AGP
GPU chip on it (some native chips supported both 1.5V and 3.3V).
And in terms of what is still on the market, the FX5200 AGP is
the least risk, even with its DVI issues. The 6200 might work (the ones
I see have two slots cut in them, so that means they should run
at 1.5 or 3.3V for I/O). But I'd really want proof they've been
tested in a 440BX and don't cause trouble.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html

The playtool article also mentions the AGP power issue. Some old
machines from that era, use a linear regulator for one of the
voltages the video card needs. I think I bought a TNT card
years ago, and it black screened in my 440BX machine, and I suspect
it was a power issue. And my motherboard isn't even one of the ones
known to have problems. But I didn't have a problem with the
FX5200, for whatever that is worth.

When installing a new video card, remove the old Windows driver first,
then shut down, change video cards, boot up, and install the
new driver. Nvidia will have stopped issuing new drivers
for the FX5200, but I don't expect that to be a problem.
The nice thing about the FX5200, is it covers the older
OSes well, and you can also get a Win98 driver for it.
Since you're not likely to ever run Win7 on a 333MHz processor,
I'm not too worried about no driver for Win7 :-)

HTH,
Paul
.

  #9  
Old January 29th 10, 07:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Dale
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 112
Default Replace Video Card

Thanks for the input and advice. I will check out suggestions and solutions.
The card is working, but I don't have 3D capabilites. I thought a
replacement might give me this capabilites. I don't have time a the moment to
check things out. Will post back if I find any revelations.

Thanks again.
--
dale


"Paul" wrote:

Dale wrote:
I would appreciate some help on replacing a video card. I have no clue as to
what to purchase. It's is overwhelming.

Below I have listed the infomation on the current card. I do not need a high
power (gaming) card. Just something simple.

Thank you for ANY information.

Side One
1997 STB Systems Rev B [Stamped on Board]
Product of Mexico
Way Vel 128 AGP NO/TV
Video Adapter

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Product HP Vectra
Version VE8
Product 440BX
AGP Transfer Rate 1x
Processor:
Version Pentium II
Current Clock 333 MHz


Video Adapter Velocity 128 (4 MB)
Hardware Driver nv3.dll
3D Accelerator nVIDIA RIVA128
Monitor 19" VSC111E:
Mode 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
(Q87070323615)

AGP Slot:
AGP Version 1.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
Current AGP Speed 1x

Monitor: ViewSonic VA903 SERIES [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n Q87070323615,
January 2007)


OK, what I see is a 3.3V AGP 1X/2X slot on a 440BX motherboard. The monitor
is 19", 1280x1024 native resolution, with a 15 pin VGA connector.

I'm not doing very well with search engines right now, and this is a page for VA903.

http://www1.epinions.com/specs/ViewSonic_VA903B_Monitor

What I've used on my 440BX board, is an Nvidia FX5200 AGP. I've tried
the card on a AGP 1X slot and an AGP 8X slot and it works with both.
So it is a universal card. It should be able to do 1280x1024 on VGA
without a problem (that is the resolution my monitor uses). On those
kind of older cards, you can never be sure the DVI connector is capable
of doing the full range up to 1920x1080, but that will be an issue for
another day (and another monitor purchase).

As an example, there is an FX5200 here, with both a DVI and a VGA connector
on it, and it is $32. You can't go wrong at that price, even if you
only get a year of usage from it. There is no fan on this unit. If
you ever find the card is unstable (I have an FX5200 AGP here that
is not stable unless a fan is pointed at it), you can add a fan right next
to the video card slot to improve the cooling. I needed the fan when gaming,
and since you're not using it for gaming, you might get away without
adding a fan. The thing is, the tiny fans on video cards don't last
forever, so in some ways, the ability to buy and install your
own fan is a bonus.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

In one of the reviews, you can see this comment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

"DVI port would not support the resolution of my screen (1920X1200),
the maximum it can do is 1600x1200, which looks awful on my wide screen.
So have to use RGB [VGA] plug. If I knew it in advance would not buy it."

This is a known issue with some of the older cards, in that the bandwidth
of the hardware driving the DVI connector is not up to the full 165MHz
spec. Some old cards were limited to 135MHz. To "protect" the users,
the Nvidia driver prevents selecting resolutions above a certain level.
So if someone owning this card, expects to run out and buy a new LCD
monitor with only a DVI connector on it, then the native resolution of
the new monitor should be considered, with respect to the limitations
of the FX5200. If you bought a 1680x1050 DVI monitor, expect a distorted
looking display because of not running at native resolution. If you buy
a new monitor with a VGA connector as well as DVI, then you have more
connection options. But cheap LCD monitors only have DVI now.

So the main reason I'm recommending this card, is I've tested it. I own
three different FX5200's. I have two AGP ones and a PCI one. And
so far, they've worked in all the computers I've tested them on.
That is their only "feature", as otherwise they're a pretty
crap card as far as a gamer would be concerned. But for 32 bucks,
it's an adventure.

If you want background information on video card selection, this
page is good. But I suspect you're not going to find much better
than the FX5200, as more modern cards use Rialto or HSI bridges,
and those only run 1.5V slots. The 440BX is for a 3.3V slot
motherboard, so you need to find an AGP card with a native AGP
GPU chip on it (some native chips supported both 1.5V and 3.3V).
And in terms of what is still on the market, the FX5200 AGP is
the least risk, even with its DVI issues. The 6200 might work (the ones
I see have two slots cut in them, so that means they should run
at 1.5 or 3.3V for I/O). But I'd really want proof they've been
tested in a 440BX and don't cause trouble.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html

The playtool article also mentions the AGP power issue. Some old
machines from that era, use a linear regulator for one of the
voltages the video card needs. I think I bought a TNT card
years ago, and it black screened in my 440BX machine, and I suspect
it was a power issue. And my motherboard isn't even one of the ones
known to have problems. But I didn't have a problem with the
FX5200, for whatever that is worth.

When installing a new video card, remove the old Windows driver first,
then shut down, change video cards, boot up, and install the
new driver. Nvidia will have stopped issuing new drivers
for the FX5200, but I don't expect that to be a problem.
The nice thing about the FX5200, is it covers the older
OSes well, and you can also get a Win98 driver for it.
Since you're not likely to ever run Win7 on a 333MHz processor,
I'm not too worried about no driver for Win7 :-)

HTH,
Paul
.

  #10  
Old February 16th 10, 01:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Dale
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 112
Default Replace Video Card

Paul
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I did as you suggested (ordered
from Newegg). Working great AND I have 3D ! Thank you for your help. You
folks are AWESOME.
--
dale


"Paul" wrote:

Dale wrote:
I would appreciate some help on replacing a video card. I have no clue as to
what to purchase. It's is overwhelming.

Below I have listed the infomation on the current card. I do not need a high
power (gaming) card. Just something simple.

Thank you for ANY information.

Side One
1997 STB Systems Rev B [Stamped on Board]
Product of Mexico
Way Vel 128 AGP NO/TV
Video Adapter

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Product HP Vectra
Version VE8
Product 440BX
AGP Transfer Rate 1x
Processor:
Version Pentium II
Current Clock 333 MHz


Video Adapter Velocity 128 (4 MB)
Hardware Driver nv3.dll
3D Accelerator nVIDIA RIVA128
Monitor 19" VSC111E:
Mode 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
(Q87070323615)

AGP Slot:
AGP Version 1.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
Current AGP Speed 1x

Monitor: ViewSonic VA903 SERIES [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n Q87070323615,
January 2007)


OK, what I see is a 3.3V AGP 1X/2X slot on a 440BX motherboard. The monitor
is 19", 1280x1024 native resolution, with a 15 pin VGA connector.

I'm not doing very well with search engines right now, and this is a page for VA903.

http://www1.epinions.com/specs/ViewSonic_VA903B_Monitor

What I've used on my 440BX board, is an Nvidia FX5200 AGP. I've tried
the card on a AGP 1X slot and an AGP 8X slot and it works with both.
So it is a universal card. It should be able to do 1280x1024 on VGA
without a problem (that is the resolution my monitor uses). On those
kind of older cards, you can never be sure the DVI connector is capable
of doing the full range up to 1920x1080, but that will be an issue for
another day (and another monitor purchase).

As an example, there is an FX5200 here, with both a DVI and a VGA connector
on it, and it is $32. You can't go wrong at that price, even if you
only get a year of usage from it. There is no fan on this unit. If
you ever find the card is unstable (I have an FX5200 AGP here that
is not stable unless a fan is pointed at it), you can add a fan right next
to the video card slot to improve the cooling. I needed the fan when gaming,
and since you're not using it for gaming, you might get away without
adding a fan. The thing is, the tiny fans on video cards don't last
forever, so in some ways, the ability to buy and install your
own fan is a bonus.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

In one of the reviews, you can see this comment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

"DVI port would not support the resolution of my screen (1920X1200),
the maximum it can do is 1600x1200, which looks awful on my wide screen.
So have to use RGB [VGA] plug. If I knew it in advance would not buy it."

This is a known issue with some of the older cards, in that the bandwidth
of the hardware driving the DVI connector is not up to the full 165MHz
spec. Some old cards were limited to 135MHz. To "protect" the users,
the Nvidia driver prevents selecting resolutions above a certain level.
So if someone owning this card, expects to run out and buy a new LCD
monitor with only a DVI connector on it, then the native resolution of
the new monitor should be considered, with respect to the limitations
of the FX5200. If you bought a 1680x1050 DVI monitor, expect a distorted
looking display because of not running at native resolution. If you buy
a new monitor with a VGA connector as well as DVI, then you have more
connection options. But cheap LCD monitors only have DVI now.

So the main reason I'm recommending this card, is I've tested it. I own
three different FX5200's. I have two AGP ones and a PCI one. And
so far, they've worked in all the computers I've tested them on.
That is their only "feature", as otherwise they're a pretty
crap card as far as a gamer would be concerned. But for 32 bucks,
it's an adventure.

If you want background information on video card selection, this
page is good. But I suspect you're not going to find much better
than the FX5200, as more modern cards use Rialto or HSI bridges,
and those only run 1.5V slots. The 440BX is for a 3.3V slot
motherboard, so you need to find an AGP card with a native AGP
GPU chip on it (some native chips supported both 1.5V and 3.3V).
And in terms of what is still on the market, the FX5200 AGP is
the least risk, even with its DVI issues. The 6200 might work (the ones
I see have two slots cut in them, so that means they should run
at 1.5 or 3.3V for I/O). But I'd really want proof they've been
tested in a 440BX and don't cause trouble.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html

The playtool article also mentions the AGP power issue. Some old
machines from that era, use a linear regulator for one of the
voltages the video card needs. I think I bought a TNT card
years ago, and it black screened in my 440BX machine, and I suspect
it was a power issue. And my motherboard isn't even one of the ones
known to have problems. But I didn't have a problem with the
FX5200, for whatever that is worth.

When installing a new video card, remove the old Windows driver first,
then shut down, change video cards, boot up, and install the
new driver. Nvidia will have stopped issuing new drivers
for the FX5200, but I don't expect that to be a problem.
The nice thing about the FX5200, is it covers the older
OSes well, and you can also get a Win98 driver for it.
Since you're not likely to ever run Win7 on a 333MHz processor,
I'm not too worried about no driver for Win7 :-)

HTH,
Paul
.

  #11  
Old February 16th 10, 01:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Dale
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 112
Default Replace Video Card

Paul
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I did as you suggested (ordered
from Newegg). Working great AND I have 3D ! Thank you for your help. You
folks are AWESOME.
--
dale


"Paul" wrote:

Dale wrote:
I would appreciate some help on replacing a video card. I have no clue as to
what to purchase. It's is overwhelming.

Below I have listed the infomation on the current card. I do not need a high
power (gaming) card. Just something simple.

Thank you for ANY information.

Side One
1997 STB Systems Rev B [Stamped on Board]
Product of Mexico
Way Vel 128 AGP NO/TV
Video Adapter

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Product HP Vectra
Version VE8
Product 440BX
AGP Transfer Rate 1x
Processor:
Version Pentium II
Current Clock 333 MHz


Video Adapter Velocity 128 (4 MB)
Hardware Driver nv3.dll
3D Accelerator nVIDIA RIVA128
Monitor 19" VSC111E:
Mode 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
(Q87070323615)

AGP Slot:
AGP Version 1.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
Current AGP Speed 1x

Monitor: ViewSonic VA903 SERIES [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n Q87070323615,
January 2007)


OK, what I see is a 3.3V AGP 1X/2X slot on a 440BX motherboard. The monitor
is 19", 1280x1024 native resolution, with a 15 pin VGA connector.

I'm not doing very well with search engines right now, and this is a page for VA903.

http://www1.epinions.com/specs/ViewSonic_VA903B_Monitor

What I've used on my 440BX board, is an Nvidia FX5200 AGP. I've tried
the card on a AGP 1X slot and an AGP 8X slot and it works with both.
So it is a universal card. It should be able to do 1280x1024 on VGA
without a problem (that is the resolution my monitor uses). On those
kind of older cards, you can never be sure the DVI connector is capable
of doing the full range up to 1920x1080, but that will be an issue for
another day (and another monitor purchase).

As an example, there is an FX5200 here, with both a DVI and a VGA connector
on it, and it is $32. You can't go wrong at that price, even if you
only get a year of usage from it. There is no fan on this unit. If
you ever find the card is unstable (I have an FX5200 AGP here that
is not stable unless a fan is pointed at it), you can add a fan right next
to the video card slot to improve the cooling. I needed the fan when gaming,
and since you're not using it for gaming, you might get away without
adding a fan. The thing is, the tiny fans on video cards don't last
forever, so in some ways, the ability to buy and install your
own fan is a bonus.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

In one of the reviews, you can see this comment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187045

"DVI port would not support the resolution of my screen (1920X1200),
the maximum it can do is 1600x1200, which looks awful on my wide screen.
So have to use RGB [VGA] plug. If I knew it in advance would not buy it."

This is a known issue with some of the older cards, in that the bandwidth
of the hardware driving the DVI connector is not up to the full 165MHz
spec. Some old cards were limited to 135MHz. To "protect" the users,
the Nvidia driver prevents selecting resolutions above a certain level.
So if someone owning this card, expects to run out and buy a new LCD
monitor with only a DVI connector on it, then the native resolution of
the new monitor should be considered, with respect to the limitations
of the FX5200. If you bought a 1680x1050 DVI monitor, expect a distorted
looking display because of not running at native resolution. If you buy
a new monitor with a VGA connector as well as DVI, then you have more
connection options. But cheap LCD monitors only have DVI now.

So the main reason I'm recommending this card, is I've tested it. I own
three different FX5200's. I have two AGP ones and a PCI one. And
so far, they've worked in all the computers I've tested them on.
That is their only "feature", as otherwise they're a pretty
crap card as far as a gamer would be concerned. But for 32 bucks,
it's an adventure.

If you want background information on video card selection, this
page is good. But I suspect you're not going to find much better
than the FX5200, as more modern cards use Rialto or HSI bridges,
and those only run 1.5V slots. The 440BX is for a 3.3V slot
motherboard, so you need to find an AGP card with a native AGP
GPU chip on it (some native chips supported both 1.5V and 3.3V).
And in terms of what is still on the market, the FX5200 AGP is
the least risk, even with its DVI issues. The 6200 might work (the ones
I see have two slots cut in them, so that means they should run
at 1.5 or 3.3V for I/O). But I'd really want proof they've been
tested in a 440BX and don't cause trouble.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html

The playtool article also mentions the AGP power issue. Some old
machines from that era, use a linear regulator for one of the
voltages the video card needs. I think I bought a TNT card
years ago, and it black screened in my 440BX machine, and I suspect
it was a power issue. And my motherboard isn't even one of the ones
known to have problems. But I didn't have a problem with the
FX5200, for whatever that is worth.

When installing a new video card, remove the old Windows driver first,
then shut down, change video cards, boot up, and install the
new driver. Nvidia will have stopped issuing new drivers
for the FX5200, but I don't expect that to be a problem.
The nice thing about the FX5200, is it covers the older
OSes well, and you can also get a Win98 driver for it.
Since you're not likely to ever run Win7 on a 333MHz processor,
I'm not too worried about no driver for Win7 :-)

HTH,
Paul
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Dale wrote:
Paul
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I did as you suggested (ordered
from Newegg). Working great AND I have 3D ! Thank you for your help. You
folks are AWESOME.


Glad we could help.

Paul
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Dale wrote:
Paul
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I did as you suggested (ordered
from Newegg). Working great AND I have 3D ! Thank you for your help. You
folks are AWESOME.


Glad we could help.

Paul
 




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