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Windows 8.1
http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/
"Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan’s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." |
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Windows 8.1
On 2013-05-14, Juan Wei wrote:
http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan?s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." So, will thw Windows store require a credit card number even if it was "free" like Apple store does/did? |
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Windows 8.1
generic name wrote:
On 2013-05-14, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan?s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." So, will thw Windows store require a credit card number even if it was "free" like Apple store does/did? Test it and tell us. https://signup.live.com The services agreement, mentions separate billing information. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ices-agreement "9.2. Your billing account. To pay the charges for a service, you will be asked to provide a payment method at the time you sign up for that service. You can access and change your billing account information and payment method on the Billing and Account Management website (https://billing.microsoft.com). Additionally, you agree to permit Microsoft to use any updated account information regarding your payment method provided by your issuing bank or the applicable payment network. You agree to keep your billing account information current at all times. Changes made to your billing account won't affect charges we submit to your billing account before we could reasonably act on your changes to your billing account. " Paul |
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Windows 8.1
On 15/05/2013 03:08, generic name wrote:
On 2013-05-14, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan?s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." So, will thw Windows store require a credit card number even if it was "free" like Apple store does/did? Everything I've downloaded from the store that is free has not asked for purchase information. |
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Windows 8.1
On 2013-05-15, Desk Rabbit wrote:
On 15/05/2013 03:08, generic name wrote: On 2013-05-14, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan?s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." So, will thw Windows store require a credit card number even if it was "free" like Apple store does/did? Everything I've downloaded from the store that is free has not asked for purchase information. Did you have to "sign up" for an account? Guess I'll have to try it with the laptoop win8. |
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Windows 8.1
On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:47:39 +0000 (UTC), "generic name" No-One@in-
the-sanitarium.invalid wrote in article kn0amr$63b$1@dont- email.me... On 2013-05-15, Desk Rabbit wrote: On 15/05/2013 03:08, generic name wrote: On 2013-05-14, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan?s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." So, will thw Windows store require a credit card number even if it was "free" like Apple store does/did? Everything I've downloaded from the store that is free has not asked for purchase information. Did you have to "sign up" for an account? Guess I'll have to try it with the laptoop win8. I signed up for a Microsoft account without a credit card. Of course, all I can download from the store are free apps till I provide one, but no requirement for a credit card (or other method of payment). -- Zaphod Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, ya know? - Gag Halfrunt |
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Windows 8.1
On 2013-05-15, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:47:39 +0000 (UTC), "generic name" No-One@in- the-sanitarium.invalid wrote in article kn0amr$63b$1@dont- email.me... On 2013-05-15, Desk Rabbit wrote: On 15/05/2013 03:08, generic name wrote: On 2013-05-14, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan?s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." So, will thw Windows store require a credit card number even if it was "free" like Apple store does/did? Everything I've downloaded from the store that is free has not asked for purchase information. Did you have to "sign up" for an account? Guess I'll have to try it with the laptoop win8. I signed up for a Microsoft account without a credit card. Of course, all I can download from the store are free apps till I provide one, but no requirement for a credit card (or other method of payment). Thanks! Just tried it & the "account" is really the same as an email account; have 2 & used the same one that is "subscribed" to the microsoft community web forum. Good idea to get 1 anyway to supply necessary email-id for anything suspect or "just in case" of spammers; I only visit the places every so often to keep them "current". Got some some free metro apps BUT don't get the "metro commander" as it is geared for a touchscreen & cannot use the pointer to select an item; so much for "metro" apps. Will checkout the pinball & solitaire tonight to see if they "work" the same in requiring a touchscreen to do anything. I didn't have the windows app store in my system & had to use google to find it; the url I used is "www.windows8appstore.com" which is different from "www.appwindowsstore.com" that I saw elsewhere. |
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Windows 8.1
generic name wrote:
On 2013-05-15, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:47:39 +0000 (UTC), "generic name" No-One@in- the-sanitarium.invalid wrote in article kn0amr$63b$1@dont- email.me... On 2013-05-15, Desk Rabbit wrote: On 15/05/2013 03:08, generic name wrote: On 2013-05-14, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan?s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." So, will thw Windows store require a credit card number even if it was "free" like Apple store does/did? Everything I've downloaded from the store that is free has not asked for purchase information. Did you have to "sign up" for an account? Guess I'll have to try it with the laptoop win8. I signed up for a Microsoft account without a credit card. Of course, all I can download from the store are free apps till I provide one, but no requirement for a credit card (or other method of payment). Thanks! Just tried it & the "account" is really the same as an email account; have 2 & used the same one that is "subscribed" to the microsoft community web forum. Good idea to get 1 anyway to supply necessary email-id for anything suspect or "just in case" of spammers; I only visit the places every so often to keep them "current". Got some some free metro apps BUT don't get the "metro commander" as it is geared for a touchscreen & cannot use the pointer to select an item; so much for "metro" apps. Will checkout the pinball & solitaire tonight to see if they "work" the same in requiring a touchscreen to do anything. I didn't have the windows app store in my system & had to use google to find it; the url I used is "www.windows8appstore.com" which is different from "www.appwindowsstore.com" that I saw elsewhere. Thanks for confirming "it's not too evil" :-) I can use it now. Paul |
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Windows 8.1
On 2013-05-15, Paul wrote:
generic name wrote: On 2013-05-15, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:47:39 +0000 (UTC), "generic name" No-One@in- the-sanitarium.invalid wrote in article kn0amr$63b$1@dont- email.me... On 2013-05-15, Desk Rabbit wrote: On 15/05/2013 03:08, generic name wrote: On 2013-05-14, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan?s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." So, will thw Windows store require a credit card number even if it was "free" like Apple store does/did? Everything I've downloaded from the store that is free has not asked for purchase information. Did you have to "sign up" for an account? Guess I'll have to try it with the laptoop win8. I signed up for a Microsoft account without a credit card. Of course, all I can download from the store are free apps till I provide one, but no requirement for a credit card (or other method of payment). Thanks! Just tried it & the "account" is really the same as an email account; have 2 & used the same one that is "subscribed" to the microsoft community web forum. Good idea to get 1 anyway to supply necessary email-id for anything suspect or "just in case" of spammers; I only visit the places every so often to keep them "current". Got some some free metro apps BUT don't get the "metro commander" as it is geared for a touchscreen & cannot use the pointer to select an item; so much for "metro" apps. Will checkout the pinball & solitaire tonight to see if they "work" the same in requiring a touchscreen to do anything. I didn't have the windows app store in my system & had to use google to find it; the url I used is "www.windows8appstore.com" which is different from "www.appwindowsstore.com" that I saw elsewhere. Thanks for confirming "it's not too evil" :-) I can use it now. Paul Solitaire is ad-ware & the adverts across the top is easy to ignore; pinball wants your account id & wants to have full access to your account (this is where a 2nd m$ email-id would come handy). Didn't supply id & uninstalled pinball. Kept solitaire. Metro commander had promise as a "file commander"; too bad it is restricted to touchscreen even tho I was able to "drop down" to something & get stuck since I don't have a touchscreen laptop. Saw mobiletech video on youtube on reviewing a Lenova touchscreen laptop; just about each time the screen is "touched", it wobbled; think the same will happen to a full sized touchscreen monitor, especially if they have the gyroscope like that on tablets where one can do portrait or landscape..... |
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Windows 8.1
On 2013-05-14 5:36 PM, Juan Wei wrote:
http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan’s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." Hopefully they fix Windows 8 as it is a dog sh1t OS. The GUI sucks big time and isn't even stable on a laptop with the screen flipping to tablet mode all on its flipping own. Have used windows since 2.01, and this version 8 is the worst yet. I can only imagine the idiocracy going on at Microsoft that thinks a laptop interface needs to be commingled with a tablet interface, and no less than 6 different menu interfaces of which some useful ones are obscured. Really dumb move. -- Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment. |
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Windows 8.1
On 5/16/2013 2:12 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 2013-05-14 5:36 PM, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan’s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." Hopefully they fix Windows 8 as it is a dog sh1t OS. The GUI sucks big time and isn't even stable on a laptop with the screen flipping to tablet mode all on its flipping own. Have used windows since 2.01, and this version 8 is the worst yet. I can only imagine the idiocracy going on at Microsoft that thinks a laptop interface needs to be commingled with a tablet interface, and no less than 6 different menu interfaces of which some useful ones are obscured. Really dumb move. Geez, that's quite an opinionated answer! You are condemning the whole thing because the whistles and bells are not to your liking. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your view point, many at least partially agree, including myself. Business customers don't want the training costs and productivity losses that can occur with the tablet based GUI. It actually goes further, in that changes to recent versions of MS Office Apps are also a subject of hate and discontent. What I remember of windows prior to 3.xx is very little. The main impression was a primitive GUI, not much different from some of the DOS third party GUI's. We used task switching with DOS, so that was not revolutionary either. As I think back 3.11 was perhaps the better of the old versions, due to the ability of programs to access hardware, much as they did in DOS. This was what upset the "control freaks" to no end. |
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Windows 8.1
On 16/05/2013 19:12, Canuck57 wrote:
On 2013-05-14 5:36 PM, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan’s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." Hopefully they fix Windows 8 as it is a dog sh1t OS. The GUI sucks big time and isn't even stable on a laptop with the screen flipping to tablet mode all on its flipping own. Have used windows since 2.01, and this version 8 is the worst yet. I can only imagine the idiocracy going on at Microsoft that thinks a laptop interface needs to be commingled with a tablet interface, and no less than 6 different menu interfaces of which some useful ones are obscured. Really dumb move. The OS is fine, it's the GUI that sucks. There's a big difference between the two and those that don't understand that shouldn't be commenting. |
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Windows 8.1
On Fri, 17 May 2013 10:43:30 +0100, Desk Rabbit
wrote: On 16/05/2013 19:12, Canuck57 wrote: On 2013-05-14 5:36 PM, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan’s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." Hopefully they fix Windows 8 as it is a dog sh1t OS. The GUI sucks big time and isn't even stable on a laptop with the screen flipping to tablet mode all on its flipping own. Have used windows since 2.01, and this version 8 is the worst yet. I can only imagine the idiocracy going on at Microsoft that thinks a laptop interface needs to be commingled with a tablet interface, and no less than 6 different menu interfaces of which some useful ones are obscured. Really dumb move. The OS is fine, it's the GUI that sucks. There's a big difference between the two and those that don't understand that shouldn't be commenting. Well said. TerryV |
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Windows 8.1
On 2013-05-17 12:39 AM, charlie wrote:
On 5/16/2013 2:12 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 2013-05-14 5:36 PM, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan’s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." Hopefully they fix Windows 8 as it is a dog sh1t OS. The GUI sucks big time and isn't even stable on a laptop with the screen flipping to tablet mode all on its flipping own. Have used windows since 2.01, and this version 8 is the worst yet. I can only imagine the idiocracy going on at Microsoft that thinks a laptop interface needs to be commingled with a tablet interface, and no less than 6 different menu interfaces of which some useful ones are obscured. Really dumb move. Geez, that's quite an opinionated answer! You are condemning the whole thing because the whistles and bells are not to your liking. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your view point, many at least partially agree, including myself. I was involved with software and information security for 37 years before I retired. I wrote many a interfaces and realize the importance of a clean, easy and consistent GUI. Business customers don't want the training costs and productivity losses that can occur with the tablet based GUI. It actually goes further, in that changes to recent versions of MS Office Apps are also a subject of hate and discontent. I weaned myself off of Microsoft Office a decade ago and been using Open Office ever since. But you make an excellent point in that businesses don't want the expense, but neither did I and why I changed. Plus, my experience is sticking to open formats of files is critical when you want to keep old documents over the years. Microsoft doesn't offer this portability and longevity. What I remember of windows prior to 3.xx is very little. The main impression was a primitive GUI, not much different from some of the DOS third party GUI's. We used task switching with DOS, so that was not revolutionary either. As I think back 3.11 was perhaps the better of the old versions, due to the ability of programs to access hardware, much as they did in DOS. This was what upset the "control freaks" to no end. 1.x was unusable and unstable as a crack addict. 2.x was barely usable, but progress. 3.x was where it started to get good, but still had major memory and stability issues. WFWG 3.11 was the best version, and was refitted with the the TCP/IP networking that worked better. W95 was the best progressive release to date. They really fixed a lot of issues in this release. All releases since have progressively offered less and less in the way of improvements. XP was OK. Better memory support was its fame. Vista was a pig. Windows 7 was actually just a fix/upgrade for Vista mistakes. But after learning and costs, 7 put some usability back in. Part of Microsoft's problem is Windows has now become so complex without adding value, its bloated and hard to change. Stagnated in its past successes, new releases are repackaging or knee jerks. As Windows 8 is huge mistake, so huge I am recanting about Apple. I was a PC fan since 1983 and now going to do Apple if Microsoft doesn't let us downgrade for free to Windows 7. HP and Microsoft have said no to downgrade support, so my next one is an Apple. Now why Microsoft didn't decide to make the two interfaces distinct and different is beyond me. Why clutter one with the other when it adds only aggravation and instability? Mobile needs are different than desktop needs and Microsoft blew it when thinking GUI. One problem that will plague Microsoft in the tablet market is the OS is a pig, needs a power burner for a CPU, sluggish, needs more memory and storage, bloated the batteries don't last long. Priced above Apple, either Apples iPad or a Samsung/Asus Android tablet makes much more sense. If MS doesn't fix it good in 8.1, they will be on a fast ride down. -- Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment. |
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Windows 8.1
Erik Vastmasd posted this via news:avrh2tFim46U1
@mid.individual.net: I caught a glimpse of Desk Rabbit on Wed, 15 May 2013 16:22:35 +0100, writing in alt.comp.os.windows-8: On 15/05/2013 03:08, generic name wrote: On 2013-05-14, Juan Wei wrote: http://mashable.com/2013/05/14/windows-8-1/ "Windows 8.1 will be a free update for Windows users when it debuts later this year, said Tami Reller, CFO and CMO of Windows, in a presentation today at JP Morgan?s Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston. "The update for both Windows 8 and Windows RT will be available via the Windows Start Screen through the Windows store." So, will thw Windows store require a credit card number even if it was "free" like Apple store does/did? Everything I've downloaded from the store that is free has not asked for purchase information. Thanks for providing that advice. I shall take all the money that I have saved from downloading the free things and invest the savings in bitcoin for my virtual futures. -- I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and noooooo.... that is NOT a Tomahawk armed Predator drone in my pocket; but, I'm not particularly "happy" to see you either. |
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