Windows 8 License for OEM versiopns!!!

Is it true that the Terms & Conditions of OEM license for Windows 8 has
changed recently or at least for Windows 8 in that you can transfer the
software to another computer that you own. I got this from this link:

http://www.software4students.co.uk/products/windows-8-full-version

See under Terms & Conditions Tab at the above link.

quote
Can I transfer the software to another computer or user? You may
transfer the software to another computer that belongs to you. You may
also transfer the software (together with the license) to a computer
owned by someone else if a) you are the first licensed user of the
software and b) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. To
make that transfer, you must transfer the original media, the
certificate of authenticity, the product key and the proof of purchase
directly to that other person, without retaining any copies of the
software. You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media
that the software came on to transfer the software. Anytime you transfer
the software to a new computer, you must remove the software from the
prior computer. You may not transfer the software to share licenses
between computers. You may transfer Get Genuine Windows software, Pro
Pack or Media Center Pack software only together with the licensed computer.
/quote

"Windows8 User" wrote in message ...


Is it true that the Terms & Conditions of OEM license for Windows 8 has
changed recently or at least for Windows 8 in that you can transfer the
software to another computer that you own.


See these articles for licensing on Win8

http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-radically-overhauls-license-agreements-for-windows-8-7000002866/

http://www.zdnet.com/how-the-new-windows-8-license-terms-affect-you_p2-7000003028/

Can I transfer my copy of Windows 8 to another PC?

That depends.

If you buy a new PC with Windows 8 already installed, your OEM Windows license is permanently bound to that computer. The only way
you can transfer the license to another person is to sell or give away the computer itself, with its copy of Windows. The following
terms apply:

The transfer must include the software, proof of purchase, and, if provided with the computer, an authentic Windows label such
as the certificate of authenticity label including the product key. You may not keep any copies of the software or any earlier
version. Before any permitted transfer, the other party must agree that this agreement applies to the transfer and use of the
software.

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If you purchase the software separately, in a package or as a download, the rules are much more liberal. Note that the text for the
following rules is identical for retail upgrades and for System Builder software that you install on a PC you build yourself, or in
a virtual machine, or on a separate partition. Emphasis in the following sections is in the original:

You may transfer the software to another computer that belongs to you. … You may not transfer the software to share licenses
between computers.

In other words, you can remove the Windows 8 upgrade from an original PC and then install it on another PC, assuming the new PC has
a license that qualifies it for an upgrade. Likewise, you can completely remove the PUL System Builder software from a self-built
PC, a VM, or a partition and then install it in a new physical or virtual PC.
====
/qp


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....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 21:30:00 +0100, "Windows8 User" Windows8
@software4students.co.uk wrote in article kp2obd$82q$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

Is it true that the Terms & Conditions of OEM license for Windows 8 has
changed recently or at least for Windows 8 in that you can transfer the
software to another computer that you own. I got this from this link:

http://www.software4students.co.uk/products/windows-8-full-version

See under Terms & Conditions Tab at the above link.

Notice that link says "windows-8-full-version" - this is not the Ts&Cs
for the OEM version but rather the full/retail version. It has always
been the case that the full/retail version can be transferred between
computers.

--
Zaphod

"So [Trillian], two heads is what does it for a girl?"
"...Anything else [Zaphod]'s got two of?"
- Arthur Dent

On 6/10/2013 2:40 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 21:30:00 +0100, "Windows8 User" Windows8
@software4students.co.uk wrote in article kp2obd$82q$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

Is it true that the Terms & Conditions of OEM license for Windows 8 has
changed recently or at least for Windows 8 in that you can transfer the
software to another computer that you own. I got this from this link:

http://www.software4students.co.uk/products/windows-8-full-version

See under Terms & Conditions Tab at the above link.

Notice that link says "windows-8-full-version" - this is not the Ts&Cs
for the OEM version but rather the full/retail version. It has always
been the case that the full/retail version can be transferred between
computers.


The OEM generic version *can* be transferred. MS says you *may* not.
When you consider that you can't read the EULA until you've opened the
package and opened packages are not refundable, the EULA is null and void.

--
Alias

The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:55:37 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article kp4ljt$hjf$1@dont-
email.me...

On 6/10/2013 2:40 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 21:30:00 +0100, "Windows8 User" Windows8
@software4students.co.uk wrote in article kp2obd$82q$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

Is it true that the Terms & Conditions of OEM license for Windows 8 has
changed recently or at least for Windows 8 in that you can transfer the
software to another computer that you own. I got this from this link:

http://www.software4students.co.uk/products/windows-8-full-version

See under Terms & Conditions Tab at the above link.

Notice that link says "windows-8-full-version" - this is not the Ts&Cs
for the OEM version but rather the full/retail version. It has always
been the case that the full/retail version can be transferred between
computers.


The OEM generic version *can* be transferred. MS says you *may* not.

Fine, if you wish to be pedantic: It is a violation of the Microsoft
Office End User Licensing Agreement to transfer an OEM version to a
computer other than the one on which it was originally installed.

When you consider that you can't read the EULA until you've opened the
package and opened packages are not refundable, the EULA is null and void.

Hogwash. The EULA is available on the Internet for all and sundry to
view as they desire before making their purchase. As to the validity of
"shrinkwrap EULAs", in the USA it tends to be decided on the content of
the EULA rather than anything else. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softwar...Enforceability

There have been no cases I'm aware of that addressed the validity of a
shrinkwrap EULA in general.

Outside of the USA, YMMV. Also, IANAL so take this for what it is - the
opinion of a random Internet denizen.

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.

On 6/10/2013 5:04 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:55:37 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article kp4ljt$hjf$1@dont-
email.me...

On 6/10/2013 2:40 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 21:30:00 +0100, "Windows8 User" Windows8
@software4students.co.uk wrote in article kp2obd$82q$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

Is it true that the Terms & Conditions of OEM license for Windows 8 has
changed recently or at least for Windows 8 in that you can transfer the
software to another computer that you own. I got this from this link:

http://www.software4students.co.uk/products/windows-8-full-version

See under Terms & Conditions Tab at the above link.

Notice that link says "windows-8-full-version" - this is not the Ts&Cs
for the OEM version but rather the full/retail version. It has always
been the case that the full/retail version can be transferred between
computers.


The OEM generic version *can* be transferred. MS says you *may* not.

Fine, if you wish to be pedantic: It is a violation of the Microsoft
Office End User Licensing Agreement to transfer an OEM version to a
computer other than the one on which it was originally installed.

No ****, Sherlock, which is why I made myself clear.


When you consider that you can't read the EULA until you've opened the
package and opened packages are not refundable, the EULA is null and void.

Hogwash. The EULA is available on the Internet for all and sundry to
view as they desire before making their purchase.

Where on the package does MS give the URL so one can check the EULA at
the time of purchase? Why, pray tell, isn't the EULA provided so it can
be read before purchase?

As to the validity of
"shrinkwrap EULAs", in the USA it tends to be decided on the content of
the EULA rather than anything else. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softwar...Enforceability

That doesn't clarify anything.


There have been no cases I'm aware of that addressed the validity of a
shrinkwrap EULA in general.

Yes, it's unsettled legally, unlike what you state above.

Outside of the USA, YMMV. Also, IANAL so take this for what it is - the
opinion of a random Internet denizen.


My opinion is that if the EULA isn't readable at the time of purchase
and you cannot read it until it's too late to get a refund, then you
have a classic bait and switch scenario and the EULA is null and void.
If I install a generic OEM copy on a machine other than the original
machine and MS activates it, that's confirmation that they approve.

--
Alias

The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

Outside of the USA, YMMV. Also, IANAL so take this for what it is - the
opinion of a random Internet denizen.

Hmm. I didn't realize that you were random. That explains much :-)

OT, but speaking of random - I need to research the Android random
number generator a bit. The documentation is vague on exactly which
results are returned by the call I want to use.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 21:30:00 +0100, "Windows8 User" Windows8
@software4students.co.uk wrote in article kp2obd$82q$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

Is it true that the Terms & Conditions of OEM license for Windows 8 has
changed recently or at least for Windows 8 in that you can transfer the
software to another computer that you own. I got this from this link:

http://www.software4students.co.uk/products/windows-8-full-version

See under Terms & Conditions Tab at the above link.

Notice that link says "windows-8-full-version" - this is not the Ts&Cs
for the OEM version but rather the full/retail version. It has always
been the case that the full/retail version can be transferred between
computers.

The terminology has changed slightly from Win7 to Win8
1. The only 'retail' version available is an upgrade version (download
with additional cost for media, though one can create the media from the
download file). The bitness flavor of the pc downloading the media
determines the version supplied (use a 32 bit Windows one gets the 32
bit Win8, use a 64 bit Windows one gets the 64 bit version), order the
media from MSFT one gets both 32 and 64 bit DVD upgrade media).
2. OEM versions are pre-installed by the pc provider (Dell, HP, Asus,
Acer, Lenovo, etc.)
3. Personal Use for System Builder version (full version only and only
one bitness 32 or 64 bit, but not both)

Unlike Win7 there is no full version retail from MSFT or resellers, the
only full version is the Personal Use for System Builder version.

Items 1 and 3 are transferable (per the EULA), item 2 is not.

Legality vs. what is 'technically feasible' are two different things.

--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:14:27 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" not-
lid wrote in article a2de93mta6go
...

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

Outside of the USA, YMMV. Also, IANAL so take this for what it is - the
opinion of a random Internet denizen.

Hmm. I didn't realize that you were random. That explains much :-)

How can a two-headed alien megalomaniac pilot of a ship powered by an
infinite improbability drive be anything other than random? ;-)

--
Zaphod

Adventurer, ex-hippie, good-timer (crook? quite possibly),
manic self-publicist, terrible bad at personal relationships,
often thought to be completely out to lunch.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:15:58 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:14:27 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" not-
lid wrote in article a2de93mta6go
...

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

Outside of the USA, YMMV. Also, IANAL so take this for what it is - the
opinion of a random Internet denizen.

Hmm. I didn't realize that you were random. That explains much :-)

How can a two-headed alien megalomaniac pilot of a ship powered by an
infinite improbability drive be anything other than random? ;-)

You're right. My failure to realize that was clearly an inescapable case
of mea maxima culpa.

My only (feeble) excuse: Usenet lulls me into a false sense of
complacency.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)