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Win XP Pro all updated.
Firefox updated. Some on-line videos i can watch and some are scrambled and some say "No compatible source for this media" In some cases i can download and view in VLC but mostly I cannot download. What am i missing ? How do I view them ? |
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Win XP Pro all updated. Firefox updated. Some on-line videos i can watch and some are scrambled and some say "No compatible source for this media" In some cases i can download and view in VLC but mostly I cannot download. What am i missing ? Details. Youtube ? How do I view them ? Carefully. There aren't a lot of media classifiers. There is GSpot tool, which tells you which CODECs a downloaded video used. There is some "Media Info" or the like, but in a quick test, I wasn't impressed. While GSpot is "old" now, it's still the best at what it does. But when it comes to streaming, the streaming video can be a format picked by the server (depends on bitrate measurement of your connection, or a preference you've set). You can also in some cases, visit a certain page and select HTML5 video in preference to Flash video. Not all browsers play the entire suite of HTML5 video types. Chrome is no longer provided for WinXP. Chrome-alikes (SRWare Iron, Opera) will inherit Chrome's hatred for WinXP, so you cannot escape that way. I think the Youtube web page that checks HTML5 features, it voted the Chrome set as complete (six tick marks, no X marks). http://www.youtube.com/html5 Firefox isn't quite complete. If I knew of an alternative, I'd be using it. Normally VLC could play what you downloaded. FFMPEG ("ffplay") should be able to play quite a few. These would be using their own internal CODECs. You would only have a lot of DirectShow CODECs (ones GSPOT could use), if you downloaded some CODEC pack, and with the "bias" setting on each CODEC, you can create a mess for yourself (wrong CODEC gets selected) without too much trouble. Personally, I prefer private CODECs, like in VLC, because you can uninstall VLC if it ****es you off. And there's no such thing as easy-peasy video. If you're not struggling, you're not trying hard enough to break it. ******* Netflix is video with digital rights management (DRM). The video window is "wrapped" with something that prevents unauthorized access. And as well, it should stop you from downloading, and only support streaming. Paul |
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 18:18:47 -0700, XPer wrote: Win XP Pro all updated. Firefox updated. Some on-line videos i can watch and some are scrambled and some say "No compatible source for this media" In some cases i can download and view in VLC but mostly I cannot download. What am i missing ? How do I view them ? I have been seeing that lately too. Maybe one out of 30 videos on Youtube pop up with this error message. It says something about HTML5 in the error message. That dont surprise me. html5 has been nothing but a pain in the ass since it first came out. I wish they would shove it up the ass of whoever things we need it, because we dont. The old html was just fine. But there has got to be some idiot who is never satisfied with anything and has to find a way to **** up what works and make everyone suffer. I'm running XP Pro SP3, and Firefox. I'm probably back about 8 or 10 versions from the latest and dont intend to upgrade anytime soon. The FF version I run is already slow compared to the older versions. I dont need more of their bloatware to slow me down even more. I'm seriously ready to dump Firefox and find another browser. But there dont seem to be much to pick from. When I encounter that error, I just move on to another video. I dont have time to fight with garbage. Someone should tell Youtube to clean up their act, and get rid of that **** which dont work. But I'm sure they are sleeping with the idiot who created this ****, and will kiss ass to them to make a buck! After all, Youtube is Google, and google has sold out to anyone and everyone who makes them money. Google is NOT my friend! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youtub...ty_and_formats "The default video stream is encoded in the VP9 format with stereo Opus audio; if VP9/WebM is not supported in the browser/device or the browser's user agent reports Windows XP, then H.264/MPEG-4 AVC video with stereo AAC audio is used instead." Which means, if they make mistakes, then at least two formats are possible. If not more. There was a Youtube Downloader, which would list all the formats available for a particular video, so you can work on this if you want. It really depends on how badly you want a Youtube video, as to whether it's worth it or not. My Youtube video collection has a size of zero, for example :-) Can't be bothered. Here's a snip from some past experiment... ******* youtube-dl --list-formats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyQUCYl-ocs [youtube] wyQUCYl-ocs: Downloading webpage [youtube] wyQUCYl-ocs: Downloading video info webpage [youtube] wyQUCYl-ocs: Extracting video information [youtube] wyQUCYl-ocs: Downloading js player vflmw6aFG [youtube] wyQUCYl-ocs: Downloading MPD manifest [info] Available formats for wyQUCYl-ocs: format code extension resolution note 139 m4a audio only DASH audio 48k , m4a_dash container, mp4a.40.5@ 48k (22050Hz), 1.90MiB 249 webm audio only DASH audio 60k , opus @ 50k, 2.03MiB 250 webm audio only DASH audio 79k , opus @ 70k, 2.52MiB 171 webm audio only DASH audio 91k , vorbis@128k, 3.19MiB 140 m4a audio only DASH audio 128k , m4a_dash container, mp4a.40.2@128k (44100Hz), 5.06MiB 251 webm audio only DASH audio 156k , opus @160k, 5.50MiB 160 mp4 192x144 DASH video 85k , avc1.4d400b, 25fps, video only, 3.30MiB 133 mp4 320x240 DASH video 204k , avc1.4d400d, 25fps, video only, 7.50MiB 17 3gp 176x144 small , mp4v.20.3, mp4a.40.2@ 24k 36 3gp 320x240 small , mp4v.20.3, mp4a.40.2 18 mp4 320x240 medium , avc1.42001E, mp4a.40.2@ 96k 43 webm 640x360 medium , vp8.0, vorbis@128k (best) To download in a specific format: youtube-dl --format 251 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyQUCYl-ocs ******* Paul |
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 18:18:47 -0700, XPer wrote:
Win XP Pro all updated. Firefox updated. Some on-line videos i can watch and some are scrambled and some say "No compatible source for this media" In some cases i can download and view in VLC but mostly I cannot download. What am i missing ? How do I view them ? I have been seeing that lately too. Maybe one out of 30 videos on Youtube pop up with this error message. It says something about HTML5 in the error message. That dont surprise me. html5 has been nothing but a pain in the ass since it first came out. I wish they would shove it up the ass of whoever things we need it, because we dont. The old html was just fine. But there has got to be some idiot who is never satisfied with anything and has to find a way to **** up what works and make everyone suffer. I'm running XP Pro SP3, and Firefox. I'm probably back about 8 or 10 versions from the latest and dont intend to upgrade anytime soon. The FF version I run is already slow compared to the older versions. I dont need more of their bloatware to slow me down even more. I'm seriously ready to dump Firefox and find another browser. But there dont seem to be much to pick from. When I encounter that error, I just move on to another video. I dont have time to fight with garbage. Someone should tell Youtube to clean up their act, and get rid of that **** which dont work. But I'm sure they are sleeping with the idiot who created this ****, and will kiss ass to them to make a buck! After all, Youtube is Google, and google has sold out to anyone and everyone who makes them money. Google is NOT my friend! |
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Win XP Pro all updated. Firefox updated. Some on-line videos i can watch and some are scrambled and some say "No compatible source for this media" In some cases i can download and view in VLC but mostly I cannot download. What am i missing ? How do I view them ? See Paul's for the usual in-depth answer, but just for clarification: do you really mean you cannot download at all, or do you just mean you cannot view what you've downloaded (in VLC or anything else)? If it's the downloading that's the problem (which _is_ what you say), then discussion of CoDecs won't help. (FWIW, I can download _most_ things - from YouTube and other sites - with my Firefox 26 and a plugin, though in many cases I _can't_ view them within the webpage; the few I can't even download are mostly new and "official" things, like movie traders or pop videos, where I assume DRM is stopping me downloading. Which I _suppose_ is OK [though seems a bit mean for trailers, rather than the whole film].) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The average US shareholding lasts 22 seconds. Nobody knows who invented the fire hydrant: the patent records were destroyed in a fire. Sandcastles kill more people than sharks. Your brain uses less power than the light in your fridge. The Statue of Liberty wears size 879 shoes. - John Lloyd, QI supremo (RT, 2014/9/27-10/3) |
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The funny thing is that when I run into this kind of problem, I go to
Chrome v49 and the video almost always works. I'm using WinXP pro sp3. "Paul" wrote in message news XPer wrote: Win XP Pro all updated. Firefox updated. Some on-line videos i can watch and some are scrambled and some say "No compatible source for this media" In some cases i can download and view in VLC but mostly I cannot download. What am i missing ? Details. Youtube ? How do I view them ? Carefully. There aren't a lot of media classifiers. There is GSpot tool, which tells you which CODECs a downloaded video used. There is some "Media Info" or the like, but in a quick test, I wasn't impressed. While GSpot is "old" now, it's still the best at what it does. But when it comes to streaming, the streaming video can be a format picked by the server (depends on bitrate measurement of your connection, or a preference you've set). You can also in some cases, visit a certain page and select HTML5 video in preference to Flash video. Not all browsers play the entire suite of HTML5 video types. Chrome is no longer provided for WinXP. Chrome-alikes (SRWare Iron, Opera) will inherit Chrome's hatred for WinXP, so you cannot escape that way. I think the Youtube web page that checks HTML5 features, it voted the Chrome set as complete (six tick marks, no X marks). http://www.youtube.com/html5 Firefox isn't quite complete. If I knew of an alternative, I'd be using it. Normally VLC could play what you downloaded. FFMPEG ("ffplay") should be able to play quite a few. These would be using their own internal CODECs. You would only have a lot of DirectShow CODECs (ones GSPOT could use), if you downloaded some CODEC pack, and with the "bias" setting on each CODEC, you can create a mess for yourself (wrong CODEC gets selected) without too much trouble. Personally, I prefer private CODECs, like in VLC, because you can uninstall VLC if it ****es you off. And there's no such thing as easy-peasy video. If you're not struggling, you're not trying hard enough to break it. ******* Netflix is video with digital rights management (DRM). The video window is "wrapped" with something that prevents unauthorized access. And as well, it should stop you from downloading, and only support streaming. Paul |
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