7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite — 2019 Edition

On 09/12/2019 22.12, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/9/2019 1:53 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 09/12/2019 20.43, Mayayana wrote:
"Carlos E.R." wrote

| | Thar "basic English codepage" does not include the ? (euro)
symbol, for
| | instance.
| |
|
| Chr 128.
|
| You can see that it got back as a question mark. Problem proved :-p
|

Â*Â* Works for me. I don't know what all this talk is about IBM.
I think I have code page 1252.

But you can not write the euro symbol in here, it doesn't work.


I'm not sure what you mean by "in here," but I can write it here in this
message: €


Whether or not you can see it is another matter.

I can see yours perfectly "here" :-D

Here meant "usenet".

If you look above to the quotes, do you see "the ? (euro)" string? The
'?' was an € symbol I typed, his system changed it to '?'.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 09/12/2019 18.17, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/9/2019 9:51 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:

As I recall, ASCII characters were "only" 7-bit, because saving one bit
per character in the days of 300-baud modems was beneficial.Â* But again,
memory is fuzzy


Yes, ASCII was 7-bit, but I don't think that was the reason. ASCII
started in 1963, and it predates the 300-bps PC modem, which began in 1977.


bits were expensive back then.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 12/9/2019 3:05 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 09/12/2019 18.17, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/9/2019 9:51 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:

As I recall, ASCII characters were "only" 7-bit, because saving one bit
per character in the days of 300-baud modems was beneficial.Â* But again,
memory is fuzzy


Yes, ASCII was 7-bit, but I don't think that was the reason. ASCII
started in 1963, and it predates the 300-bps PC modem, which began in 1977.


bits were expensive back then.


The first computer I ever worked on was an IBM 1401 (I programmed it),
starting in 1961. It used EBCDIC (pronounced EBB-suh-dick and standing
for Extended Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code), which had 6-bit
characters.


--
Ken

On 12/9/2019 3:04 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 09/12/2019 22.12, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/9/2019 1:53 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 09/12/2019 20.43, Mayayana wrote:
"Carlos E.R." wrote

| | Thar "basic English codepage" does not include the ? (euro)
symbol, for
| | instance.
| |
|
| Chr 128.
|
| You can see that it got back as a question mark. Problem proved :-p
|

Â*Â* Works for me. I don't know what all this talk is about IBM.
I think I have code page 1252.

But you can not write the euro symbol in here, it doesn't work.


I'm not sure what you mean by "in here," but I can write it here in this
message: €


Whether or not you can see it is another matter.

I can see yours perfectly "here" :-D

Here meant "usenet".


Sorry, I'm confused. What do you mean? I typed it in usenet and we can
both see it in usenet.



If you look above to the quotes, do you see "the ? (euro)" string? The
'?' was an € symbol I typed, his system changed it to '?'.



That has to do with what newsreader he uses and how it's set, not with
its being usenet.

Thunderbird's being able to send and display many more characters than
Agent is the main reason I switched to it recently.


--
Ken

"Paul" wrote

| Sometimes they draw pretty pictures of the lifecycle.
|
| https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
|

And pretty words, too. Cadence? What an odd word
to use. And Ubuntu can also be consumed as a container.
Debs (debutantes?) may be universe or multiverse....
This is starting to sound Star Trek kinky.

I never found how long it's supported for, but I'll
take your word for it. After a few paragraphs it's
just too painful to keep reading someone who uses
the language so artlessly.

"Carlos E.R." wrote

| Here meant "usenet".
|
| If you look above to the quotes, do you see "the ? (euro)" string? The
| '?' was an ? symbol I typed, his system changed it to '?'.
|

Who's he? Me? I see a Euro character. But some
won't if it's not the same number in their codepage.
Also, fonts come into it. I discovered that when I
added UTF-8 support to my coding editor. It works
fine, but only a unicode font can show it. I normally
use Verdana for scripting and HTML. With that I get
what seem to be codepage characters for the UTF-8
non-ASCII characters. But if I change the font to
MS Arial unicode it works fine.

So it could be that some fonts don't have a Euro
character. Then there's the possibility that someone's
reader has done a UTF-8 switch somewhere, resulting
in an invalid UTF-8 character.

Which is yet another reason for English speakers to
skip UTF-8 unless they need to share files with non-
English speakers. Lots of unnecessary complications.

David the Lying Stalker of Devon wrote:

[the same old lying innuendo-infested drivel]

Give it up. You've worn it to death.

--
-bts

On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 00:19:08 -0000 (UTC), "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
wrote:

David the Lying Stalker of Devon wrote:

[the same old lying innuendo-infested drivel]

Give it up. You've worn it to death.

He's not talking any sense at all.
He's either on a 60 hour binge, or he's gone crazy. I hope
it's the former.
Psychosis is not fatal.

---------------
BD: I want people to "get to know me better. I have nothing to
hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

63 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
Google "David Brooks Devon"
[]'s
--
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/9/2019 1:53 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 09/12/2019 20.43, Mayayana wrote:
"Carlos E.R." wrote

| | Thar "basic English codepage" does not include the ? (euro)
symbol, for
| | instance.
| |
|
| Chr 128.
|
| You can see that it got back as a question mark. Problem proved :-p
|

Works for me. I don't know what all this talk is about IBM.
I think I have code page 1252.

But you can not write the euro symbol in here, it doesn't work.


I'm not sure what you mean by "in here," but I can write it here in this
message: €


E2 82 AC

So it takes three bytes to represent the Euro.

https://utf8-chartable.de/unicode-ut...er=128&names=-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8

"Examples

Consider the encoding of the Euro sign, € "

In that article, the Euro is a worked example of how the coding works.
How "20AC" becomes "E2 82 AC".

The characters on either side of that insertion (in Kens message, as
seen on HowardKnight), are 7 bit (msbit is zero).

Paul

Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 09/12/2019 18.17, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/9/2019 9:51 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:

As I recall, ASCII characters were "only" 7-bit, because saving one bit
per character in the days of 300-baud modems was beneficial. But again,
memory is fuzzy

Yes, ASCII was 7-bit, but I don't think that was the reason. ASCII
started in 1963, and it predates the 300-bps PC modem, which began in 1977.


bits were expensive back then.


There's a mention of 300 baud here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem

"The Bell 103A dataset standard was also introduced by AT&T in 1962."

It's possible the later epoch, was the introduction of that
baud rate, using acoustic couplers. The earlier product
might have been hardwired or something.

I was using 300 baud in high school. I didn't realize just
how unusual this was, until I got to university, and everything
there ran at 110 baud. Boo and hiss... No wonder the students
used to drink in university... I blame it on the usage of Teletypes.

Paul

David Sun,
08 Dec 2019 17:56:38 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On 08/12/2019 17:34, Ken Springer wrote:
David, your reputation is not one to be proud of either.

Your answer surprises me, Ken! shock

It shouldn't.

Perhaps you are unaware that trying to uncover 'bad guys' is
fraught with difficulty? The poster known as 'Diesel' has spread
all manner of misinformation about me because I exposed him ....
.....as a *real-life author of viruses*.

I've spread no lies about you, David. Every single statement I've
written concerning you is factual. If you believe otherwise, provide
a specific MID, isolate what you think is a lie and I'll happily
address your concern. As faked as i'm sure it would be at this point.

You tried to hire me to crack into other peoples private computer
networks for your benefit. How is that exposing me, David? And, how
does one expose an aspect of anothers background, if it's already
common knowledge? How does that work?

Similarly, the MASTER-*stalker* called Beauregard T. Shagnasty has
even set up a spiteful web page because I exposed his whole
website to be carrying malware. Proof he
https://i.imgur.com/JCa39b8.jpg

Uhh, David, you're intentionally lying about two posters in the same
reply. Myself and BtS. You're writing completely bull**** stories now
about how you and I know each other, and, how your special page came
to be.

Can you tell me a bit more about your experiences on "Mac
newsgroups"? If you are referring to Usenet groups, to WHICH
groups do you refer, Ken?

You have to ask?

Yes, I do. I cannot find you on the 'uk.comp.sys.mac' group for
example.

You must take Ken for a complete idiot.

You might like to pass on this snippet to your loved ones:-
https://i.imgur.com/CRK3SPN.jpg

Yea, you're taking him for an idiot. Another Mike Easter you're
hoping?




--
We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend
to be.

David
Sun, 08 Dec 2019 23:10:47 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

Six *more* months added to the lifespan of your _special page_.

*I was just checking that you are still stalking me*, -bts

David, no matter how hard you try to spin things around, it's not
going to work. You have a well known and established history. As do
the sites and various individuals you're attempting to attack now
with more bull**** lies.

It seems that YOU can't recognise that once your cohort, Shadow,
had promulgated the address of your defamatory web page at
Archive.org the persistence of your 'live' link is absolutely and
totally irrelevant.

Your continued interest in having the original url downed then is?

Readers of Usenet will eventually question why you, someone who
doesn't ever use Microsoft Windows, deem it ethical to INSTRUCT
newbies in the mysteries of one of the most vulnerable operating
systems on the planet.

Most readers of usenet, Mike Easter and other newbies being a
possible exception, will not be questioning any of us about something
you've written. You have no credibility. We do.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that you're desperately
trying to put your own history through another spin cycle; hoping you
can convince someone/anyone? that you aren't the asshat, drunkard,
stalking piece of **** so many (and more are learning) already know
you to be.

Spreading malware, are you?

Do you have any evidence that supports your accusation?


--
Cats must eat all of mom's plants and then barf them up while Mom is
not home.

David Mon, 09 Dec 2019 11:49:11 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On 09/12/2019 01:21, Beauregard T. Shagnasty - still wriggling!
David wrote:

Amazing what happens when the truth is told!

It certainly is. You should start sometime soon.

[rest not worthy of a reply]

Other readers of Usenet groups will eventually question *WHY* you,
someone who doesn't ever use Microsoft Windows, deems it ethical to
INSTRUCT newbies in the mysteries of one of /the/ most vulnerable
operating systems on the planet.

=

*WHY* does a Linux aficionado promote a website discussing Windows?

You don't even HIDE the fact that you are doing it! www.tekrider.net

I *DO* tell the truth.

When are you going to do that? You lied your ass off about me in
this very thread. You didn't 'expose' me for anything. you tried to
hire me, and when I wouldn't take your job offer, tried to dox me.
You lying, piece of ****.

Now it's *YOUR* turn.

ROFL! He is telling the truth.

http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

Does NOT contain any lies or other mistruths about you. If anything,
the administrator of the site goes out of his way not to fully
expose you for the piece of stalking trash you actually are by
publishing more examples of you admitting to being one!

This is ALL TRUTHFUL:

Have you been approached by David Brooks (DB, ~DB~, and 60+ other nyms)?

To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber
stalking, it's highly recommended that you visit he

https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php
https://web.archive.org/web/20191103112509/https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

Before responding to any posts created by David Brooks, BoaterDave,
BD, etc (he has a collection of nyms) it's strongly advised you
visit any of these links and do some reading beforehand. Don't get
yourself into the same position so many others (including myself)
have with him. He is a bat**** crazy, stalking troll, amongst other
terrible things. He isn't your friend, has no need for friends, and
will use you to help him stalk other people he has a problem with.
Consider yourselves more than fairly warned.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/david$20brooks$20boaterdave
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...ooks-the-troll
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/david$20brooks$20devon

Don't become the next David Brooks cyberstalking victim!
Visit https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php (10/10 WOT)
to learn more. If you've already become a victim or know someone who
has, you can provide the following information to them, your lawyer,
local law enforcement, etc.
https://www.devon-cornwall.police.uk - His local police. Report?
David Brooks (BoaterDave)
Jersey Cottage 86 Granary Lane
Budleigh Salterton Devon EX9 6ER United Kingdom
Phone: 44-1395-443340 (H) 07974-193550 (M)
Email(s): ,



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"If women are so bloody perfect at multitasking,
How come they can't have a headache and sex at the same time?" - Bill Connolly

David Mon,
09 Dec 2019 15:32:56 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On 09/12/2019 14:41, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
David the Lying Stalker of Devon wrote:

On 09/12/2019 01:21, Beauregard T. Shagnasty - still wriggling!
David the Liar of Devon wrote:
Amazing what happens when the truth is told!

It certainly is. You should start sometime soon.

[rest not worthy of a reply]

Other readers of Usenet groups will ...

..see your constant lying and stalking.

They won't! 'Cause I don't - but *YOU* do!

The only sucker who's still buying that and voiced their public
ignorance about you is Mike Easter. Ant initially, but, he seems to
have smartened up and left Mike on his own. ;p

*NO*! That would be your cohort known as 'Shadow'.

He's recently mentioned that it should be taken down:-

"Those pages are from way back when he used Windows(or helped
someone with Windows, not anyone's business).

http://www.tekrider.net/general/wintip01.php

File last changed 15 April 2009

It not been altered in OVER 10 years. The text refers to
programs updated in 2005."

Ref: Message-ID:

=

I see nothing written that indicates what you claimed. In other
words, you just lied about what Shadow recently mentioned.

Out of date websites do *HARM* - not good.

That depends entirely on the material offered on the site. Some
material doesn't really go 'out of date'

They are a breeding ground for malware.

Explain, in your own words, how a non interactive read-only from the
visitors point of view site is a breeding ground for malware?

Websites need to be properly maintained and administered.

By all looks of things, that's being done.

You have failed in your role as Webmaster. :-(

How so?




--
One murder makes a villain, millions a hero.-Bishop Beilby Porteus

Mike Easter
Mon, 09 Dec 2019 17:42:45 GMT
in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

Stupidly and disrespectfully x-posted to Newsgroups:
alt.computer.workshop, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.freeware

David wrote:
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
David the Lying Stalker of Devon wrote:
Beauregard T. Shagnasty - still wriggling!
David the Liar of Devon wrote:


If you people are going to have little personal exchanges, why
don't you limit it to a single back-water group like acw? Why
drag the win10 & freeware groups in w/ every msg?

That criticism also goes out to all the others who do the same
things such as the incessant thread titled 7 Best Alternatives To
Microsoft Office Suite - 2019 Edition, but which msg/s deserted
that topic long long ago.


You have some decent sized balls to comment concerning Davids
behavior, or anyone elses concerning him. Especially when you go off
and write trash like this:

Message-ID:
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=155278479000

OUAT onceuponatime BD mistreated/used various public personae,
then/now Diesel bullies BD (and others), now various mail2news
anonymizer/s bully Diesel.

*** end paste

Are you unable to use filters all of a sudden? or practice more
selective ignorance?

More David comments:

Message-ID:
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=156316302300

You've been caught lying your ass off multiple times. As well as
intentionally violating copyrights of others when it
suits/pleases you to do so. You've also been caught attempting
to hire individuals to hack (crack actually) into various sites
you'd already been banned from. You want others to commit
felonies for your benefit and when they don't, you resort to
trying to blackmail them.

That's not QUITE true. *YOU* are the *ONLY* one AFAICR.

As I've mentioned before, sometimes the end justifies the means.

Message-ID:
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=156436528900

I proceeded to answer other questions you provided in the same
email asking about it. You indicated no issue with me, no
accusation of my being a 'bad guy' until years later, here on
usenet.

That's correct. I didn't let on that you were a target and I'd
scored a bullseye.

Other than your known dishonesty, is there a particular reason you
aren't sharing the entire contents of your inquiry leading up to
that paste?

I'm totally honest with good guys. What else would you like me to
tell any newbies about you?

*** end snippit



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You have to stay in shape. My grandmother started walking five miles
a day when she was 60. Now she's 97 and we don't know *where* the
hell she is. --Ellen DeGeneres