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Windows 10 Media Creation Tool and Related Info
Media Creation Tool Windows 10
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/windows10 Media Creation Tool (How to) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10 Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key. - upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued. -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote: Media Creation Tool (How to) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10 Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key. - upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued. actually the page you mention states something different : ---------------------------------------------------- If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer. ---------------------------------------------------- To me it means : once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade, you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting). The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again. |
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Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Media Creation Tool (How to) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10 Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key. - upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued. actually the page you mention states something different : ---------------------------------------------------- If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer. ---------------------------------------------------- To me it means : once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade, you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting). The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again. That's correct. And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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". . .winston" wrote in message ... Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Media Creation Tool (How to) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10 Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key. - upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued. actually the page you mention states something different : ---------------------------------------------------- If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer. ---------------------------------------------------- To me it means : once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade, you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting). The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again. That's correct. And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would be the other way around. -- SC Tom |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:
Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would be the other way around. Could be the extra code required to disable the Pro-only features? |
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"Char Jackson" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote: Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would be the other way around. Could be the extra code required to disable the Pro-only features? Could be. I certainly don't know. -- SC Tom |
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Ken1943 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote: ". . .winston" wrote in message ... Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Media Creation Tool (How to) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10 Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key. - upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued. actually the page you mention states something different : ---------------------------------------------------- If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer. ---------------------------------------------------- To me it means : once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade, you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting). The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again. That's correct. And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would be the other way around. PRO is smarter. Ken1943 On my copy, 7ZIP won't open the install.wim, and that's what I count on to look inside a WIM and see what is different. Either the WIM format is changed, or this is really an ESD file. Paul |
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SC Tom wrote on 07/29/2015 8:14 AM:
". . .winston" wrote in message ... Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Media Creation Tool (How to) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10 Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key. - upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued. actually the page you mention states something different : ---------------------------------------------------- If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer. ---------------------------------------------------- To me it means : once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade, you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting). The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again. That's correct. And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would be the other way around. I'll ask MSFT, if I get an answer for public consumption I'll post it. -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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"Ken1943" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote: ". . .winston" wrote in message ... Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Media Creation Tool (How to) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10 Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key. - upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued. actually the page you mention states something different : ---------------------------------------------------- If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer. ---------------------------------------------------- To me it means : once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade, you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting). The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again. That's correct. And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would be the other way around. PRO is smarter. But it doesn't have MORE smarts :-) Or it's just smarter using less. Or maybe its smarts are just smaller. wink wink nudge nudge -- SC Tom |
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"Paul" wrote in message ... Ken1943 wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote: ". . .winston" wrote in message ... Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Media Creation Tool (How to) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10 Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key. - upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued. actually the page you mention states something different : ---------------------------------------------------- If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer. ---------------------------------------------------- To me it means : once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade, you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting). The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again. That's correct. And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would be the other way around. PRO is smarter. Ken1943 On my copy, 7ZIP won't open the install.wim, and that's what I count on to look inside a WIM and see what is different. Either the WIM format is changed, or this is really an ESD file. I downloaded the ISOs with the Media Creation Tool. I haven't burned them to DVD yet. But, I do have two new folders that were created after I received the ISO files, and are not associated with my downloads- $WINDOWS.~BT and $WINDOWS.~WS. The BT folder has a 2 folders and a few files, whereas the WS folder has what looks to be a complete set of files for setting up Windows. Both of these folders were created well after I got the ISOs, so that's why I don't think they're associated with my downloads. And, the WS folder is 5.79 GB (6,217,682,779 bytes), almost like it has both x86 and x64 installations, although there's an installx64.esd file (2.63 GB (2,826,454,514 bytes)) in that folder. Plus the WS folder is a hidden folder, and BT isn't; it's just a regular, general folder. So, to me, it looks like I got the promised installation files, plus the 2 ISOs I downloaded. I'll have to boot up my Win8.1 machine and see if I get it there, too. That one has the reminder also :-) -- SC Tom |
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SC Tom wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message ... Ken1943 wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote: ". . .winston" wrote in message ... Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Media Creation Tool (How to) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10 Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key. - upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued. actually the page you mention states something different : ---------------------------------------------------- If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer. ---------------------------------------------------- To me it means : once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade, you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting). The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again. That's correct. And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would be the other way around. PRO is smarter. Ken1943 On my copy, 7ZIP won't open the install.wim, and that's what I count on to look inside a WIM and see what is different. Either the WIM format is changed, or this is really an ESD file. I downloaded the ISOs with the Media Creation Tool. I haven't burned them to DVD yet. But, I do have two new folders that were created after I received the ISO files, and are not associated with my downloads- $WINDOWS.~BT and $WINDOWS.~WS. The BT folder has a 2 folders and a few files, whereas the WS folder has what looks to be a complete set of files for setting up Windows. Both of these folders were created well after I got the ISOs, so that's why I don't think they're associated with my downloads. And, the WS folder is 5.79 GB (6,217,682,779 bytes), almost like it has both x86 and x64 installations, although there's an installx64.esd file (2.63 GB (2,826,454,514 bytes)) in that folder. Plus the WS folder is a hidden folder, and BT isn't; it's just a regular, general folder. So, to me, it looks like I got the promised installation files, plus the 2 ISOs I downloaded. I'll have to boot up my Win8.1 machine and see if I get it there, too. That one has the reminder also :-) I've got both those folders too; the WS folder was created shortly after the download started, the BT one shortly after it finished. I've burned the image to disc, and I was going to carry it upstairs and try an install on a Win8.1 machine. That won't have, of course, those two folders, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work ok. And that makes me wonder just what those folders are. Neither of them is hidden here under Win7. Ed |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
SC Tom wrote: "Paul" wrote in message ... Ken1943 wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote: ". . .winston" wrote in message ... Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Media Creation Tool (How to) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10 Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key. - upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued. actually the page you mention states something different : ---------------------------------------------------- If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer. ---------------------------------------------------- To me it means : once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade, you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting). The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again. That's correct. And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would be the other way around. PRO is smarter. Ken1943 On my copy, 7ZIP won't open the install.wim, and that's what I count on to look inside a WIM and see what is different. Either the WIM format is changed, or this is really an ESD file. I downloaded the ISOs with the Media Creation Tool. I haven't burned them to DVD yet. But, I do have two new folders that were created after I received the ISO files, and are not associated with my downloads- $WINDOWS.~BT and $WINDOWS.~WS. The BT folder has a 2 folders and a few files, whereas the WS folder has what looks to be a complete set of files for setting up Windows. Both of these folders were created well after I got the ISOs, so that's why I don't think they're associated with my downloads. And, the WS folder is 5.79 GB (6,217,682,779 bytes), almost like it has both x86 and x64 installations, although there's an installx64.esd file (2.63 GB (2,826,454,514 bytes)) in that folder. Plus the WS folder is a hidden folder, and BT isn't; it's just a regular, general folder. So, to me, it looks like I got the promised installation files, plus the 2 ISOs I downloaded. I'll have to boot up my Win8.1 machine and see if I get it there, too. That one has the reminder also :-) I've got both those folders too; the WS folder was created shortly after the download started, the BT one shortly after it finished. I've burned the image to disc, and I was going to carry it upstairs and try an install on a Win8.1 machine. That won't have, of course, those two folders, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work ok. And that makes me wonder just what those folders are. Neither of them is hidden here under Win7. Ed Correction. The WS folder is "hidden". I have settings to show hidden folders, but it is slightly fainter than the BT folder. Ed |
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On 7/29/2015 3:14 PM, Ken1943 wrote:
Correction. The WS folder is "hidden". I have settings to show hidden folders, but it is slightly fainter than the BT folder. Ed Where are they under \Windows or \System32 ? Ken1943 In the Windows root directory. Regards, Rene |
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Ken1943 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 15:45:26 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 7/29/2015 3:14 PM, Ken1943 wrote: Correction. The WS folder is "hidden". I have settings to show hidden folders, but it is slightly fainter than the BT folder. Ed Where are they under \Windows or \System32 ? Ken1943 In the Windows root directory. Regards, Rene Thanks Ken1943 They contain files for a full Win10 setup; with a setup.exe. The download loaded into the WS folders, and after that built an .iso file on the Desktop. A bit superfluous, as far as I can tell. I can't see why the .iso shouldn't have been sufficient on its own. Ed |
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"Ed Cryer" wrote in message ... SC Tom wrote: "Paul" wrote in message ... Ken1943 wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote: ". . .winston" wrote in message ... Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM: On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Media Creation Tool (How to) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10 Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key. - upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued. actually the page you mention states something different : ---------------------------------------------------- If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer. ---------------------------------------------------- To me it means : once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade, you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting). The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again. That's correct. And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the qualifying o/s. Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would be the other way around. PRO is smarter. Ken1943 On my copy, 7ZIP won't open the install.wim, and that's what I count on to look inside a WIM and see what is different. Either the WIM format is changed, or this is really an ESD file. I downloaded the ISOs with the Media Creation Tool. I haven't burned them to DVD yet. But, I do have two new folders that were created after I received the ISO files, and are not associated with my downloads- $WINDOWS.~BT and $WINDOWS.~WS. The BT folder has a 2 folders and a few files, whereas the WS folder has what looks to be a complete set of files for setting up Windows. Both of these folders were created well after I got the ISOs, so that's why I don't think they're associated with my downloads. And, the WS folder is 5.79 GB (6,217,682,779 bytes), almost like it has both x86 and x64 installations, although there's an installx64.esd file (2.63 GB (2,826,454,514 bytes)) in that folder. Plus the WS folder is a hidden folder, and BT isn't; it's just a regular, general folder. So, to me, it looks like I got the promised installation files, plus the 2 ISOs I downloaded. I'll have to boot up my Win8.1 machine and see if I get it there, too. That one has the reminder also :-) I've got both those folders too; the WS folder was created shortly after the download started, the BT one shortly after it finished. I've burned the image to disc, and I was going to carry it upstairs and try an install on a Win8.1 machine. That won't have, of course, those two folders, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work ok. And that makes me wonder just what those folders are. Neither of them is hidden here under Win7. Ed Yep, I found that out after I downloaded the ISO on my Win8 machine. I also found out that the Win10Prox64 ISO downloaded on my Win8 machine is larger than the one on my Win7 machine, so it kinda looks like the download IS associated with the machine. Also, as mentioned by someone else in another thread, the icon is still in my SysTray but the message recently changed to "We're validating Windows 10 for your PC. We recommend that you upgrade after you get your notification that Windows 10 is ready for your specific PC. "While upgrades have started for most PCs, we're continuously working with our partners to ensure that even more PCs work well with Windows 10" They are supposed to notify me when it's ready to be installed. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the fact that I have an nVidia chipset and video card, and there is talk of Win10 upgrade crashing with nVidia. Oh well, I was going to do my Win7 last anyhow :-) -- SC Tom |
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