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Old July 8th 19, 07:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Paul[_32_]
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Default Debian 10 "buster" released

Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ wrote:
Some services in windows, if you stop them from task manager,
will restart automatically.


If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.

I'm not too worried about it, I don't think it's necessary.
I did kill Cortana, however, using a wooden stake.


You could try this. You use GPEDIT on Pro.

https://i.postimg.cc/MG2nYPdQ/Windows-Defender-Off.gif

Then check for MsMpEng in Task Manager.

You either have to push out the policy without rebooting
the computer, or, just reboot the computer. Then, check.
Some kind of ceremony is required, after enabling that
policy.

Paul
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  #2  
Old July 8th 19, 08:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Kill "Antimalware Service Executable".

Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ wrote:
Paul replied ( to me ):
If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.
I'm not too worried about it, I don't think it's necessary.

use GPEDIT on Pro.


I'm using The Home Edition; no GPEDIT; besides,
I don't think that would actually remove the process.
I bet you can't do it.


https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows Defender

DisableAntiSpyware DWORD 1

https://i.postimg.cc/VvnXcKzy/Task-Manager.gif

Paul
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Old July 8th 19, 09:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.privacy.anon-server
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Default Debian 10 "buster" released


Some services in windows, if you stop them from task manager,
will restart automatically.


If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.

I'm not too worried about it, I don't think it's necessary.
I did kill Cortana, however, using a wooden stake.


That won't work. It takes a silver bullet.

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Old July 8th 19, 09:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".

Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ wrote:
Paul replied ( to me ):
Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".
I'm using The Home Edition; no GPEDIT; besides,
I don't think that would actually remove the process.
I bet you can't do it.

DisableAntiSpyware DWORD 1


I set that variable many years ago.

https://i.postimg.cc/VvnXcKzy/Task-Manager.gif


That's not "Antimalware Service Executable"; see:

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Antimalware.Service.Executable.PNG


https://i.postimg.cc/wB7L0qyb/differ...ame-result.gif

I don't think you're tuned into the comedy of Microsoft
naming conventions.

No two tabs ever use the exact same string, to start with.
You're constantly "attempting to map" from one screen to
the next, trying to figure out what they are.

You can use Sysinternals Process Explorer (Run As Administrator)
as an additional tool for tracking what process each entry is
based on.

The reason the key is called "DisableAntiSpyware" , is the
key was invented in Windows 7 or earlier, when the provided
AV solution was "AntiSpyware Only". Along came Microsoft Security Essentials,
and suddenly they were in the AntiVirus business. but the name
of the key controlling the real-time protection, did not
change.

The best correlation comes from "what is eating my processor".
There are many sporadic processes that come and go. But
Search Indexer and MsMpEng are "forever". And MsMpEng is
what ties up boot and the early presentation of the
Desktop. It "must scan" the essential parts of the OS,
before "liftoff".

Paul
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Old July 8th 19, 11:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.privacy.anon-server
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Default Debian 10 "buster" released

On 7/8/2019 12:29 PM, "Jeff-Relf.Me@."@ wrote:
Some services in windows, if you stop them from task manager,
will restart automatically.


If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.

I'm not too worried about it, I don't think it's necessary.
I did kill Cortana, however, using a wooden stake.


LOL!! Some services are needed, and the vendor knows it. Otherwise,
the system could very well be borked.

I don't use Cortana, so I just used the settings to shut it off.

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Old July 8th 19, 11:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".

On 7/8/2019 2:35 PM, Paul wrote:
Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ wrote:
Paul replied ( to me ):
Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".
I'm using The Home Edition; no GPEDIT; besides, I don't think that
would actually remove the process.
I bet you can't do it.
DisableAntiSpyware DWORDÂ* 1


I set that variable many years ago.

https://i.postimg.cc/VvnXcKzy/Task-Manager.gif


That's not "Antimalware Service Executable"; see:

Â* http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Antimalware.Service.Executable.PNG


https://i.postimg.cc/wB7L0qyb/differ...ame-result.gif

I don't think you're tuned into the comedy of Microsoft
naming conventions.

No two tabs ever use the exact same string, to start with.
You're constantly "attempting to map" from one screen to
the next, trying to figure out what they are.

You can use Sysinternals Process Explorer (Run As Administrator)
as an additional tool for tracking what process each entry is
based on.

The reason the key is called "DisableAntiSpyware" , is the
key was invented in Windows 7 or earlier, when the provided
AV solution was "AntiSpyware Only". Along came Microsoft Security
Essentials,
and suddenly they were in the AntiVirus business. but the name
of the key controlling the real-time protection, did not
change.

The best correlation comes from "what is eating my processor".
There are many sporadic processes that come and go. But
Search Indexer and MsMpEng are "forever". And MsMpEng is
what ties up boot and the early presentation of the
Desktop. It "must scan" the essential parts of the OS,
before "liftoff".

Â*Â* Paul


I'd say that from what I've seen of Defender, it does a better job than
others when it comes to ransomware. It isn't perfect, but better than
the others.

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Old July 8th 19, 11:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.privacy.anon-server
Anonymous Remailer (austria)
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Default Debian 10 "buster" released


In article
Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ wrote:

Some services in windows, if you stop them from task manager,
will restart automatically.


If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.

I'm not too worried about it, I don't think it's necessary.
I did kill Cortana, however, using a wooden stake.


Find the exe file and delete it?

  #8  
Old July 9th 19, 12:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.privacy.anon-server
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Default "Antimalware Service Executable"


Someone replied ( to me ):

If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.


Find the exe file and delete it ?


Can't delete it, can't rename it, can't "unlock" it,
not even with a reboot.


If you have knowledge of Linux, you could run systemrescue on a USB
with

systemrescuecd-x86-4.6.1.iso

and delete it from the disk with that.

  #9  
Old July 9th 19, 12:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Paul[_32_]
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Default Debian 10 "buster" released

Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
In article
Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ wrote:
Some services in windows, if you stop them from task manager,
will restart automatically.

If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.

I'm not too worried about it, I don't think it's necessary.
I did kill Cortana, however, using a wooden stake.


Find the exe file and delete it?


In 1903, the Search box and the Pizza Ordering Cortana, are
separate items. A useless donut circle sits in your Task Bar,
as a memorial to Cortana. You can turn it on if you like.

With the Search and Cortana separated like that, the Search
is as bland as vanilla extract. You might as well ask a Hobo
in the street your question, as enter it in the Search box now.
You'll probably get some useless Bing result.

I haven't messed around with it, as I was never all that
interested in the Pizza Ordering habits of my computer.
But what I've got running now, ain't got pizza toppings
any more, and the search rectangle "takes me back to Win7" kinda.

I like to think of these as "random feature sets". Imagine
an elevator in your apartment building. One day, it doesn't
go "UP". The next day, it doesn't go "DOWN". Next day, the
door has fallen off the front, but it does go UP and DOWN
ok. These are great ideas, if only you could see an
objective or a plan... Like, why take the door off the
elevator ? Faster egress ? Doubles as a melon slicer ?
You have to make up your own rationale on these things.

Paul
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Old July 9th 19, 12:42 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Paul[_32_]
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Default Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".

Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ wrote:
Paul,

I already did the "DisableAntiSpyware" thing, long ago;
still, "Antimalware Service Executable" is running; see:

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Antimalware.Service.Executable.PNG

I don't know what you're doing different.
Are you not running Windows 10, v1903, all updates ?


I tested on 1903, and the GPEDIT works just like in
the older OS I showed you earlier. I used the older
OS, because it's a VM I can run without getting out
of my chair. It's also "surplus", meaning I can wreck
it if I want.

I fired up the production 1903 drive on the Test Machine,
and the GPEDIT setting still works.

https://i.postimg.cc/rshNVMmB/1903.gif

I have to go out now, but later I'll install a registry
recorder and see if I can figure out what it is setting.

Another way to do it, is to use Process Monitor from
Sysinternals and try and log registry writes that way.

I *do* have the "Tamper Prevention" turned off in the
Security Panel - I don't know if that helps or not.

One thing I noticed, is around when 1903 showed up, I recorded
a failure of the Security Panel. You could use it to turn off
Real Time protection, and it would turn itself back on again.
(MsMpEng would show in Task Manager). If you try to use the
slider again (turn off or turn on or alternate), nothing
happens. So something did change in the last release.

But the test I did just now, did work. I rebooted and
no Antimalware service was running (MsMpEng). I even did
a GPUpdate before the reboot, and "pushing" the setting
worked as expected. So it can be switched off. The trick is
figuring out why yours does not work. It can't possibly be that yours
is Home and mine is Pro, because those SKUs are really
both intended to be "uncontrollable rubbish". Microsoft
wants it that way, so more people will buy the Enterprise
version, instead of using Pro as a crutch. (Some Soho customers
were using Pro, and Microsoft doesn't want their differentiation
eroded by smart customers.)

Paul
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Old July 9th 19, 01:19 AM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default "Antimalware Service Executable"

Of course, if I was using linux, I wouldn't be using Windows at all.
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Old July 9th 19, 02:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.privacy.anon-server
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Default "Antimalware Service Executable"

In article
Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ wrote:

Someone replied ( to me ):
If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.


Find the exe file and delete it ?


Can't delete it, can't rename it, can't "unlock" it,
not even with a reboot.


Boot your system from a Windows CD/DVD. If you don't have one, create
one.
Control Panel / Backup and Restore / Create a system repair disc.

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Old July 9th 19, 02:58 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".

On 7/8/2019 4:17 PM, "Jeff-Relf.Me@."@ wrote:
Paul,

I already did the "DisableAntiSpyware" thing, long ago;
still, "Antimalware Service Executable" is running; see:

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Antimalware.Service.Executable.PNG

I don't know what you're doing different.
Are you not running Windows 10, v1903, all updates ?


I'm curious if you just uninstalled Windows Defender?

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Old July 9th 19, 04:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default "Antimalware Service Executable"

Snowden wrote:
Someone replied ( to me ):

If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.
Find the exe file and delete it ?

Can't delete it, can't rename it, can't "unlock" it,
not even with a reboot.


If you have knowledge of Linux, you could run systemrescue on a USB
with

systemrescuecd-x86-4.6.1.iso

and delete it from the disk with that.


Before switching from Windows to Linux.

1) As Admin "compact /compactOS:never"
to remove compression reparse points.
Doesn't free all files, but gives access
to System32.
2) Turn off Fast Boot in Windows 10 (rides piggyback
on hibernation, and you can't mount NTFS C:
if any hibernation has occurred).
3) Be prepared to use "ntfsfix" in Linux, when the
inevitable "$MFTMIRR damage" seen by Linux, prevents
mount. After ntfsfix, you should be ready to go.
4) Now, do whatever you were going do to...

Of course you can delete MsMpEng, but remember it's
hard linked from WinSXS. Deleting the handle in System32
is not the final handle and ref count to the clusters
representing the file.

In Linux, using "ls" with the "inode" option, two
files with the same Linux inode, are hardlinks in
Windows. And MsMpEng is going to be linked to a
file version in WinSXS with the same string as
part of its name. WinSXS is the "maintenance folder"
and is where version control is done. The "right" version
is then hard-linked into System32.

I've done one of these for wuauserv (Windows Update).

Paul
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Old July 9th 19, 05:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Win10 is a random, ever changing, grab bag of features (Was: [inexplicably] Debian 10 "buster" released)

In article , Paul wrote:
....
I like to think of these as "random feature sets". Imagine
an elevator in your apartment building. One day, it doesn't
go "UP". The next day, it doesn't go "DOWN". Next day, the
door has fallen off the front, but it does go UP and DOWN
ok. These are great ideas, if only you could see an
objective or a plan... Like, why take the door off the
elevator ? Faster egress ? Doubles as a melon slicer ?
You have to make up your own rationale on these things.


Exactly! Glad to hear someone else making this observation.

This is what I have been saying all along - that Win10 is this
ever-changing random grab bag of features. The elevator analogy is apt.

It (W10) is quite suitable for the cell-phone generation. They like things
constantly changing for no good reason.

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In capitalism, man exploits man. In communism, it's the other way around.

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