Meteo gadget not connect

In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 22:39:44 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , FredW
writes:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 12:35:21 -0500, Nil
wrote:
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Your 'solution' is a Hell lot more Complicated than mine!

Just DO:

========

Edit the Config.XML file in:

C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows
Live\Services\Cache

Under C:\Users\me, I don't have an AppData. I do have Application Data.
Under C:\Users\me\Application Data, I have only Macromedia.

At C:\Users, entering Config.XML gets to "No items match your search" as
soon as I enter the X.
[]
(Windows 7 HP, 64.)

You probably know this, so ignore if you like.

Two ways to get there are 1) Show Hidden Folders, and 2) by manually typing
each folder name into Win Explorer and pressing Enter, and a third way is to
simply copy/paste the entire path into Win Explorer.

The first method is straightforward, so no more about that.

Well, I typed show hid into the start box, and the top object is Show
hidden files and folders, so I press enter, and a window appears called
Folder Options, with the View tab selected, and under Hidden files and
folders, Show hidden files, folders, and drives is already selected. I
hit OK anyway - no change.

The second and third methods don't require you to Show Hidden Folders, so
those are the ones that I use most often, especially when I'm on someone
else's machine and don't want to change their settings.

Navigate to C:\Users\username. Now, in the location field, simply append

OK, I'm in C:\Users\me.

\AppData Enter \Local Enter \Microsoft Enter \Windows Live Enter

I type \AppData and press enter. "Windows can't find
'C:\Users\me\AppData'. Check the spelling and try again." I try what is
there, C:\Users\me\Application Data, and type \Local and enter. "Windows
can't find ..."

\Services Enter \Cache Enter. You can also type all or any part of that
before hitting Enter; it doesn't have to be one level at a time.

Unless, of course, the folders really don't exist, but I would think that
they exist for everyone.

Apparently not (-:
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 00:09:07 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Char Jackson
writes:

Unless, of course, the folders really don't exist, but I would think that
they exist for everyone.

Apparently not (-:

Are you running Windows 7?

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Char Jackson

On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:23:39 -0500, Paul wrote:

(Maybe just the action of "saving" it, changes the date and makes it work?
It's a "cache" after all, and needs to be validated once in a while.)

It's not that, I tried changing just the services refresh line and
saving it and that made no difference. Doing all 4 changes on both of
my systems made them work. The location defaulted to London but it did
allow me to change to my location in North Yorkshire and they are now
both running perfectly.

I'm not sure why I like the thing! I can easily look out of the window
to see if it's dark or snowing etc and I have an internal/external
thermometer showing me the outside temperature (and the inside - for
completeness of this post).

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and built in 5 years;
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Nil wrote :
On 10 Feb 2015, FredW wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I read that already in the thread full of misinformation..

Does not work.

You're right, that thread is full of stuff that doesn't apply, and
the fix that Yousuf Khan cited does not work. However, a good answer
that worked for me just now is on about page 10 of that thread. Here
it is:

(from
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...b99a7a?page=10)

==============

Your 'solution' is a Hell lot more Complicated than mine!

Just DO:

========

Edit the Config.XML file in:

C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows
Live\Services\Cache

Change the lines at the top with:

services refresh="60"change from 60 to 45
service name="weather"
operation interval="30"/change from 30 to 15

and also the lines at the bottom with:

service name="stocks"
operation interval="15"/change from 15 to 10
/service
service name="currency"
operation interval="30"/ change from 30 to 15

Save the file, and that's it - restart the Weather Gadget.

Thank you very much! Worked like a charm :-)

--
Zo

"Government employer looking for candidates. Criminal background
required."

In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 00:09:07 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Char Jackson
writes:

Unless, of course, the folders really don't exist, but I would think that
they exist for everyone.

Apparently not (-:

Are you running Windows 7?

Not on the machine I'm talking to you on, but on another one next to it!

Just for curiosity, I just tried (on the 7 machine of course!) manually
creating C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows
Live\Services\Cache (obviously with my name - "me" - in the relevant
place), i. e. by navigating to C:\Users\me then making each folder in
turn. I then created a Config.XML file there, containing 17 lines, with
the four numbers modified as suggested (refresh="45", interval="15",
"10", and "15"), and closed and restarted the weather gadget. Still
"Cannot connect to service".

(At work today, I applied the patch - the folders and file _did_ exist
on the machine there - and the gadget, once closed and restarted, is now
working fine. Both [I have two] with specified locations, though I think
it was working before I set those.)

I've just tried setting the location for mine here, and the search
location function doesn't work: I tried Rochester, which when I tried it
at work gave me a choice of Rochesters - here at home it doesn't find
any, so its obviously not accessing the database of places. (I'd
previously tried a few other places, even London, with the same result.)
It says current location _is_ London.

Not important: I've got plenty of ways of getting at the weather, and
didn't even have the gadget until I saw these threads! (At work it _is_
useful as I'm in an almost windowless location.) I just thought I'd try
it, and sure enough it wasn't working, and I'm also - as I think you
are! - curious as to why I haven't (hadn't!) got the folder
C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live\Services\Cache!
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that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are
right. -H.L. Mencken, writer, editor, and critic (1880-1956)

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 00:09:07 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Char Jackson
writes:

Unless, of course, the folders really don't exist, but I would think
that
they exist for everyone.

Apparently not (-:

Are you running Windows 7?

Not on the machine I'm talking to you on, but on another one next to it!

Just for curiosity, I just tried (on the 7 machine of course!) manually
creating C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows
Live\Services\Cache (obviously with my name - "me" - in the relevant
place), i. e. by navigating to C:\Users\me then making each folder in
turn. I then created a Config.XML file there, containing 17 lines, with
the four numbers modified as suggested (refresh="45", interval="15",
"10", and "15"), and closed and restarted the weather gadget. Still
"Cannot connect to service".

(At work today, I applied the patch - the folders and file _did_ exist
on the machine there - and the gadget, once closed and restarted, is now
working fine. Both [I have two] with specified locations, though I think
it was working before I set those.)

I've just tried setting the location for mine here, and the search
location function doesn't work: I tried Rochester, which when I tried it
at work gave me a choice of Rochesters - here at home it doesn't find
any, so its obviously not accessing the database of places. (I'd
previously tried a few other places, even London, with the same result.)
It says current location _is_ London.

Not important: I've got plenty of ways of getting at the weather, and
didn't even have the gadget until I saw these threads! (At work it _is_
useful as I'm in an almost windowless location.) I just thought I'd try
it, and sure enough it wasn't working, and I'm also - as I think you
are! - curious as to why I haven't (hadn't!) got the folder
C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live\Services\Cache!

Would you have a %appdata% environment variable set ?

Perhaps your appdata is moved somehow ?

I was thinking maybe a GPO policy could turn it off, but
I don't think that would be very clever. Even with a curated
set of applications on a computer, there might still be
reasons to have a working %appdata% area.

Time to check behind the sofa cushions...

Paul

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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 00:09:07 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Char Jackson
writes:

Unless, of course, the folders really don't exist, but I would think
that
they exist for everyone.

Apparently not (-:

Are you running Windows 7?

Not on the machine I'm talking to you on, but on another one next to it!

Just for curiosity, I just tried (on the 7 machine of course!) manually
creating C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows
Live\Services\Cache (obviously with my name - "me" - in the relevant
place), i. e. by navigating to C:\Users\me then making each folder in
turn. I then created a Config.XML file there, containing 17 lines, with
the four numbers modified as suggested (refresh="45", interval="15",
"10", and "15"), and closed and restarted the weather gadget. Still
"Cannot connect to service".

(At work today, I applied the patch - the folders and file _did_ exist
on the machine there - and the gadget, once closed and restarted, is now
working fine. Both [I have two] with specified locations, though I think
it was working before I set those.)

I've just tried setting the location for mine here, and the search
location function doesn't work: I tried Rochester, which when I tried it
at work gave me a choice of Rochesters - here at home it doesn't find
any, so its obviously not accessing the database of places. (I'd
previously tried a few other places, even London, with the same result.)
It says current location _is_ London.

Not important: I've got plenty of ways of getting at the weather, and
didn't even have the gadget until I saw these threads! (At work it _is_
useful as I'm in an almost windowless location.) I just thought I'd try
it, and sure enough it wasn't working, and I'm also - as I think you
are! - curious as to why I haven't (hadn't!) got the folder
C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live\Services\Cache!

Would you have a %appdata% environment variable set ?


Editing the config.xml file worked here, found entered location and has
retrieved info number of times now.

In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Char Jackson
writes:
[]
Are you running Windows 7?

Not on the machine I'm talking to you on, but on another one next to it!
[]
it _is_ useful as I'm in an almost windowless location.) I just
thought I'd try it, and sure enough it wasn't working, and I'm also -
as I think you are! - curious as to why I haven't (hadn't!) got the
folder C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows
Live\Services\Cache!

Would you have a %appdata% environment variable set ?

Hmm. Not having played with environment variables for many years, I
wasn't sure how to check: then I remembered that W7 has this search
function, so I hit the start orb, and typed - as soon as I got as far as
"env", the top return was "Edit environment variables for your account".
So I selected that. I get a window headed Environment Variables, with an
upper section User variables for User, which just contains two - TEMP
and TMP - and a lower section System variables, which contains 17, none
of which look as if they're %appdata%.

Interestingly, the TEMP and TMP ones under "User variables for user"
both have the value "%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp"; assuming
%USERPROFILE% means C:\Users\me, there wasn't an AppData folder there
(only "Application Data" and "Local Settings") until I created it
earlier this evening.

[Interestingly^2, "System variables" also has a TEMP and a TMP, which
are both set to C:\Windows\Temp. (Which _does_ exist.)]

Perhaps your appdata is moved somehow ?

I was thinking maybe a GPO policy could turn it off, but
I don't think that would be very clever. Even with a curated
set of applications on a computer, there might still be
reasons to have a working %appdata% area.

Time to check behind the sofa cushions...

Paul

I don't know much about Windows 7: my main machine is XP (a large
netbook). I have the 7 one (a 17" laptop) mainly for TeamViewer and
Skype support to friends (XP, Vista, and 7). The 7 machine isn't _that_
much changed from when purchased (second-hand, but from a dealer who had
more or less restored it to original, rather than from a private
individual) - I've just installed a few things like IrfanView, VLC, and
so on.
--
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when people say they're perfectly happy without children, we don't have to
presume they're lying! - Paul Dolan, RT 2015/1/3-9

In message , pjp
writes:
In article , says...
[]
Would you have a %appdata% environment variable set ?


Editing the config.xml file worked here, found entered location and has
retrieved info number of times now.

_Editing_ it worked for me at work, too; _creating_ it (and the folders
for it to sit in) didn't, or hasn't so far (-:.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

when people say they're perfectly happy without children, we don't have to
presume they're lying! - Paul Dolan, RT 2015/1/3-9

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:16:07 +0000, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Char Jackson
writes:
[]
Are you running Windows 7?

Not on the machine I'm talking to you on, but on another one next to it!
[]
it _is_ useful as I'm in an almost windowless location.) I just
thought I'd try it, and sure enough it wasn't working, and I'm also -
as I think you are! - curious as to why I haven't (hadn't!) got the
folder C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows
Live\Services\Cache!

Would you have a %appdata% environment variable set ?

Hmm. Not having played with environment variables for many years, I
wasn't sure how to check: then I remembered that W7 has this search
function, so I hit the start orb, and typed - as soon as I got as far as
"env", the top return was "Edit environment variables for your account".
So I selected that. I get a window headed Environment Variables, with an
upper section User variables for User, which just contains two - TEMP
and TMP - and a lower section System variables, which contains 17, none
of which look as if they're %appdata%.

Interestingly, the TEMP and TMP ones under "User variables for user"
both have the value "%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp"; assuming
%USERPROFILE% means C:\Users\me, there wasn't an AppData folder there
(only "Application Data" and "Local Settings") until I created it
earlier this evening.

[Interestingly^2, "System variables" also has a TEMP and a TMP, which
are both set to C:\Windows\Temp. (Which _does_ exist.)]

Perhaps your appdata is moved somehow ?

I was thinking maybe a GPO policy could turn it off, but
I don't think that would be very clever. Even with a curated
set of applications on a computer, there might still be
reasons to have a working %appdata% area.

Time to check behind the sofa cushions...

Paul

I don't know much about Windows 7: my main machine is XP (a large
netbook). I have the 7 one (a 17" laptop) mainly for TeamViewer and
Skype support to friends (XP, Vista, and 7). The 7 machine isn't _that_
much changed from when purchased (second-hand, but from a dealer who had
more or less restored it to original, rather than from a private
individual) - I've just installed a few things like IrfanView, VLC, and
so on.

There are a few ways to see the environment variables.

Easiest is to open a command window and run the command "set" (w/o the
quotes). The list is long, so it's cool to stretch the command window
vertically first.

In that command window you could also run "echo %appdata%" (quoteless)
to see just that one. If it doesn't exist, the response will be just to
repeat the string %appdata%, otherwise you'll see the value, such as
C:\Users\User Name\AppData\Roaming

It's normal for temp and tmp to have the same value. Some programs like
one name, some the other, so having both set and both the same avoids
difficulties.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:18:50 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , pjp
writes:
In article , says...
[]
Would you have a %appdata% environment variable set ?


Editing the config.xml file worked here, found entered location and has
retrieved info number of times now.

_Editing_ it worked for me at work, too; _creating_ it (and the folders
for it to sit in) didn't, or hasn't so far (-:.

That makes sense. There are several files that need to be present besides
just that one. How interested are you in pursuing this? Have you clicked the
Start orb and typed "gadget" or "gadgets"? I'm thinking the respective
folders and files will be created if you 'Add gadgets to the Desktop', which
should be one of the things you see after typing.

--

Char Jackson

In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:18:50 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:
[]
_Editing_ it worked for me at work, too; _creating_ it (and the folders
for it to sit in) didn't, or hasn't so far (-:.

That makes sense. There are several files that need to be present besides
just that one. How interested are you in pursuing this? Have you clicked the

Only moderately (-:"

Start orb and typed "gadget" or "gadgets"? I'm thinking the respective
folders and files will be created if you 'Add gadgets to the Desktop', which
should be one of the things you see after typing.

I haven't tried that, but - before doing any of this - I right-clicked
on an empty part of the desktop, and the menu that appeared already
included gadgets - that's how I installed the weather gadget in the
first place.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

They are public servants, so we will threat them rather as Flashman treats
servants. - Stephen Fry on some people's attitudo to the BBC, in Radio Times,
3-9 July 2010

Thank you for your suggestion, I have made the changes and it works perfect
!!

Fabrizio

In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes:
[]
There are a few ways to see the environment variables.

Easiest is to open a command window and run the command "set" (w/o the
quotes). The list is long, so it's cool to stretch the command window
vertically first.

In that command window you could also run "echo %appdata%" (quoteless)
to see just that one. If it doesn't exist, the response will be just to
repeat the string %appdata%, otherwise you'll see the value, such as
C:\Users\User Name\AppData\Roaming

Hm! It's

C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming

.. So it seems, although I've set up a user called "me", I'm actually
using one called "User"!

On investigating, I discovered that "User" did have the ......Cache
folder, but there was nothing in it. So I copied the 17-line Config.XML
file I'd created (under "me".....Cache), turned off the weather gadget,
turned it back on, and - it worked!

Silly me.

It's normal for temp and tmp to have the same value. Some programs like
one name, some the other, so having both set and both the same avoids
difficulties.

Yes, I remember that. I was just surprised that in the window giving
environment variables, under "User variables for User", they (both) are
set to %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp, whereas under "System
variables", they are both there too, but (both) set to C:\Windows\Temp .

No matter! I feel a bit daft now, not having realised I was "User"
rather than "me". (Don't ask me how I set up "me" - I can't remember!)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If you don't know how to orient your card to swipe it through the reader, the
checkout person will say, "Strip down, face toward me." (DNRC newsletter 1997)

On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:19:46 +0000, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes:
[]
There are a few ways to see the environment variables.

Easiest is to open a command window and run the command "set" (w/o the
quotes). The list is long, so it's cool to stretch the command window
vertically first.

In that command window you could also run "echo %appdata%" (quoteless)
to see just that one. If it doesn't exist, the response will be just to
repeat the string %appdata%, otherwise you'll see the value, such as
C:\Users\User Name\AppData\Roaming

Hm! It's

C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming

. So it seems, although I've set up a user called "me", I'm actually
using one called "User"!

On investigating, I discovered that "User" did have the ......Cache
folder, but there was nothing in it. So I copied the 17-line Config.XML
file I'd created (under "me".....Cache), turned off the weather gadget,
turned it back on, and - it worked!

Silly me.

It's normal for temp and tmp to have the same value. Some programs like
one name, some the other, so having both set and both the same avoids
difficulties.

Yes, I remember that. I was just surprised that in the window giving
environment variables, under "User variables for User", they (both) are
set to %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp, whereas under "System
variables", they are both there too, but (both) set to C:\Windows\Temp .

No matter! I feel a bit daft now, not having realised I was "User"
rather than "me". (Don't ask me how I set up "me" - I can't remember!)

That's OK, even if you could remember, I almost certainly wouldn't
understand how you became User :-)

Although I think that's the default username. Have you looked to see if
there is a 'me' that you inadvertently never logged in to?

Click on the icon at the top of the right panel in the start menu, then
on 'Manage another account', to see which accounts are present. But then
exit without making any changes (at least that's what I try to do).

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)