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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?
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It's highly instructive that, combined, after almost three hundred contributions from over thirty authors, nobody can come up with even a dozen important functionalities that we can do on Windows 10 that we can't already do on all other Windows operating systems from Windows XP onward. o *What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?* https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/fJBY472ds3E/W539WlUTAwAJ Likewise, it's just as informative that we seem to arrive at a similar conclusion for the various Microsoft Office versions extent: o *What useful functionality is in the newer Microsoft Office* *that isn't already in the older MSOffice 2007?* https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/sKGer09EakA/F4duRogaBQAJ] The adult technical takeaway, could be, unless there's actually something of truly useful value, that the updates are not as meaningful as Microsoft marketing would have us attempt to believe. -- Solving dificult problems takes a few people to pitch in on the solution. |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP orWindows 7?
On 4/15/2020 11:54 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
UPDATE: It's highly instructive that, combined, after almost three hundred contributions from over thirty authors, nobody can come up with even a dozen important functionalities that we can do on Windows 10 that we can't already do on all other Windows operating systems from Windows XP onward. o *What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?* https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/fJBY472ds3E/W539WlUTAwAJ Likewise, it's just as informative that we seem to arrive at a similar conclusion for the various Microsoft Office versions extent: o *What useful functionality is in the newer Microsoft Office* Â**that isn't already in the older MSOffice 2007?* https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/sKGer09EakA/F4duRogaBQAJ] The adult technical takeaway, could be, unless there's actually something of truly useful value, that the updates are not as meaningful as Microsoft marketing would have us attempt to believe. Rerun |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XPor Windows 7?
On 2020-04-15, Arlen Holder wrote:
It's highly instructive that, combined, after almost three hundred contributions from over thirty authors, nobody can come up with even a dozen important functionalities that we can do on Windows 10 that we can't already do on all other Windows operating systems from Windows XP onward. o *What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?* I haven't read all the responses, but isn't it true that with Windows 10 you can enjoy Microsoft having virtually complete control over updates, pushing them to your PC whether you want them or not, especially the Home edition? Also last time I checked, earlier versions of Windows don't cajole the owner during setup into signing on with a Microsoft account, nor do they by default permit Microsoft to do maximum tracking of user activities. After all, wouldn't everyone want to be part of the "Microsoft Cloud"? Windows 10 does it all for you by default! Certainly these are all examples of important features available in Windows 10 that are missing from Windows XP through Windows 7. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) The US Census, what info must you give? -- http://censusfacts.info Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?
In response to what Avila Kap wrote :
Rerun Hi Avila Kap, The _adult_ topic is a "plateau point" for the Microsoft Windows platform. Your "rerun" was too short to add any value, so I suspect your post perhaps was meant to subtract value where I should point out the _adult_ concept. The _adult_ concept here is that, despite however many hundreds of millions of dollars of marketing and even more in development costs.... *Windows 10 does just about the same things as do all Windows versions.* o That's simply a fact we proved in this thread after hundreds of inputs. You may feel that an unimportant point - but I _know_ it's significant. Bear in mind I spent decades in Silicon Valley high-tech startup software, some of it in MARKETING, where almost all software plateaus. An adult would discuss the plateau point for Microsoft Windows, which, I suspect, would likely be around Windows XP or, perhaps, Windows 7. What do you think about that important _adult_ concept, Avila Kap? -- Usenet allows intelligent adults to discuss topics for mutual edification. |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?
In response to what Roger Blake wrote :
Certainly these are all examples of important features available in Windows 10 that are missing from Windows XP through Windows 7. Hi Roger Blake, There were over 300 inputs from over 30 authors on this important topic. o As such, there are 2 critically important concepts this thread revealed. a. Windows has perhaps plateau'd in that there's been fewer than ten useful functionalities in Windows 10 that you can't do in the older Windows. b. Almost everything that Microsoft advertises as value in Windows 10, can be obtained in all the other Windows by an intelligent user base. Including updates. o Just not automatic. -- Each thread on Usenet should add unique value to our combined knowledge. |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XPor Windows 7?
Roger Blake wrote:
On 2020-04-15, Arlen Holder wrote: It's highly instructive that, combined, after almost three hundred contributions from over thirty authors, nobody can come up with even a dozen important functionalities that we can do on Windows 10 that we can't already do on all other Windows operating systems from Windows XP onward. o *What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?* I haven't read all the responses, but isn't it true that with Windows 10 you can enjoy Microsoft having virtually complete control over updates, pushing them to your PC whether you want them or not, especially the Home edition? Also last time I checked, earlier versions of Windows don't cajole the owner during setup into signing on with a Microsoft account, nor do they by default permit Microsoft to do maximum tracking of user activities. After all, wouldn't everyone want to be part of the "Microsoft Cloud"? Windows 10 does it all for you by default! Certainly these are all examples of important features available in Windows 10 that are missing from Windows XP through Windows 7. The aggression level on updates has been turned down a bit. Pop in a copy and track it. You don't need a license. It runs without activation. What you miss by not activating, is the "Settings : Personalize" won't work for you. Then, if you want to examine how a Windows Update works or doesn't work, you can have a look at it. Some Windows Updates only show up, when you start clicking stuff. There is also a "button to delay", intended for work related activity where you wanted to push out the updates until the weekend. It's still a nuisance though. Sooner or later, you will be pushing that button like crazy, sucking in the updates, rebooting again and again... just to make it stop :-) I don't particularly appreciate being teased. I can "cut the nuts off it" if I have to. I haven't tested lately to see if they've put a stop to that or not. They've removed two mechanisms to break into the system as administrator (for the purpose of password recovery of local-accounts only). They have made some changes to the "convenience features" in that regard. osk.exe method doesn't work any more. As for some of the "features" of this OS, they're in the Enterprise edition, and only an Enterprise user can answer this question. For example, there's a security feature, where a document marked "Confidential", a user cannot copy and paste text from that document into an email. This is intended for Enterprise situations where security controls are in place. The IT guy in such a situation, has to define storage structures such that things are classified in a way that the Enterprise edition can detect. The end result is that exfiltrating information a bit at a time, is thwarted. Microsoft as a company, is more interested in keeping it's "big time pay" customers happy. So some of the newer features are for them. As is the notion of using Home and Pro users as "QA" for the product, spotting bad updates, making QA-like squeaking noises and so on. Some of the Home/Pro new content, is for rich people. Such as individuals who own VR or AR hardware. There are some gamer features of dubious value. There's things here and there if you look. I don't own an XBox, so I'm unlikely to spot the integration features. The OS was also an opportunity to monetize the output of the Microsoft Research group. That's where some of the content has come from. Paul |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XPor Windows 7?
Paul wrote:
Microsoft as a company, is more interested in keeping it's "big time pay" customers happy. Then you would think that they would offer more customization options to Enterprise users, for at least some of the annoyances. But no. For example, they have in no way addressed the "sticky corners of the displays" annoyance, which is more likely to affect Enterprise users who use multiple monitors. -- You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone. * Whoever bans a book, shall be banished. Whoever burns a book, shall burn. |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?
Arlen Holder wrote in news:r77l8f$dmv$1
@news.mixmin.net: Didn't you know? MS updates are so they can inject more spyware into your machine and disable it if it's not an official paid for version. It's not about functionality, it's about enforcing more profits. |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?
Roger Blake wrote in
: On 2020-04-15, Arlen Holder wrote: It's highly instructive that, combined, after almost three hundred contributions from over thirty authors, nobody can come up with even a dozen important functionalities that we can do on Windows 10 that we can't already do on all other Windows operating systems from Windows XP onward. o *What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?* I haven't read all the responses, but isn't it true that with Windows 10 you can enjoy Microsoft having virtually complete control over updates, pushing them to your PC whether you want them or not, especially the Home edition? Also last time I checked, earlier versions of Windows don't cajole the owner during setup into signing on with a Microsoft account, nor do they by default permit Microsoft to do maximum tracking of user activities. After all, wouldn't everyone want to be part of the "Microsoft Cloud"? Windows 10 does it all for you by default! Certainly these are all examples of important features available in Windows 10 that are missing from Windows XP through Windows 7. billy boy gates, once a thief, always a thief |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?
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Maybe, finally, there will be something useful in Windows 10 that you can't already do in any of the previous versions of Windows? o *The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020* https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/C8uKEw5vIMA -- What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/fJBY472ds3E/W539WlUTAwAJ |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?
See also this thread from today...
o Why do you still use Windows XP and why?, by Ant https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/xiXjG9KnRAk -- Even the START MENU from Windows XP ports over to Windows 10 with a simple copy of the file hierarchy and it works out of the box in my setup. |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?
You can stream audio over bluetooth.
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP orWindows 7?
On 6/27/2020 7:01 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
See also this thread from today... o Why do you still use Windows XP and why?, by Ant https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/xiXjG9KnRAk Anything to do with DirectX 12. |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP orWindows 7?
Lucifer wrote:
You can stream audio over bluetooth. I like the "snipping tool". I'm not completely sure whether it was available earlier. |
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XPor Windows 7?
Bill wrote:
Lucifer wrote: You can stream audio over bluetooth. I like the "snipping tool". I'm not completely sure whether it was available earlier. There are useless and useful versions of the Snippingtool. The early versions with no delay timer are useless. There's many shots where I needed to expose a menu, I could not do it. For those cases, I used the GIMP screen capture tool, which has a delayed capture. Using Bluetooth speakers or headphones, that's a function of a Bluetooth "profile". Earlier OSes had third party Bluetooth stacks. And they might well have worked with Bluetooth headphones for all I know. What Windows 10 attempts to do, is provide its own stack, with mixed results. Some earlier Windows 10, were pretty clumsy looking - they tried for the "chocolate syrup" appearance to things, but the process still looked like they were struggling. You can blame that on Bluetooth, as much as the difficulty of writing a stack. I still don't think you can do a Bluetooth piconet properly on Windows 10. Not that it would have any utility, but would represent a tick box for completing a set of profiles. Just as previous OSes used to support Firewire networking (the Firewire having its own MAC address assigned in the BIOS or the like). Windows 10 removed support for Firewire networking. It might have been competitive if there had been a Firewire 1600, but with Firewire 800 you would get around 80MB/sec and Firewire 400 (a lot more common) would only give 40MB/sec (or 20-30MB/second on disk enclosures). At one time, there was even a thing that looked like a router box for Firewire 400 (a kind of hub), but that was "decades ago" :-) Paul |
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